What does the "H" mean in Part Number UPC78M15H?

[Tim]

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Thanks,

- Tim -

 

[Ryan Weihl]

Tim wrote:

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Thanks,

- Tim -

high power, 15v/5A


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[Ryan Weihl]

Tim wrote:

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Thanks,

- Tim -

look here: http://www.datasheets.org.uk/specsheet.php?part=UPC78M15H

rw

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[Tim]

In article <euspj9$epo$1@aioe.org>, nixnam@noname.net says...

Tim wrote:

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Thanks,

- Tim -

look here: http://www.datasheets.org.uk/specsheet.php?part=UPC78M15H

rw


Thanks for the link, but I looked at the specs there, and it says it is

350 ma not 5A.

Still confused....

- Tim -

 

[Michael Black]

Tim (tim@tim.tim) writes:

In article <euspj9$epo$1@aioe.org>, nixnam@noname.net says...
Tim wrote:

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Thanks,

- Tim -

look here: http://www.datasheets.org.uk/specsheet.php?part=UPC78M15H

rw


Thanks for the link, but I looked at the specs there, and it says it is
350 ma not 5A.

Still confused....

Because they are confused.

The "M" in the middle indicates lower current output.

The "standard" part would be the 7815, which is about a 1amp 15volt regulator.
A 78L15 has about 100mA output and is usuall/always in a to-92 package.
The 78M15 is somewhere between the two, I would have guessed 500mA but
it's been a long time since I looked it up, and I think is generally in
a to-5 package.

I think someone suggested the "H" was for a high current version because
there was one device years ago that wasn't a three terminal regulator
or something and did use a suffix to denote current.

I don't have a clue what the "H" at the end is for. Suffixes are generally
about package type or makeup (such as plastic or metal). The specifics
might vary from manufucturer to manufacturer. I suppose the suffix
might even indicate temperature range (consumer equipment is generally
less fussy in this regard), but I can't say I've ever seen that in
regards to three terminal regulators, and a glance at databook shows
nothing in this regard.

Michael

 

[Tim]

In article <euu28e$o7j$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>, et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
says...

Tim (tim@tim.tim) writes:
In article <euspj9$epo$1@aioe.org>, nixnam@noname.net says...
Tim wrote:

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Thanks,

- Tim -

look here: http://www.datasheets.org.uk/specsheet.php?part=UPC78M15H

rw


Thanks for the link, but I looked at the specs there, and it says it is
350 ma not 5A.

Still confused....

Because they are confused.

The "M" in the middle indicates lower current output.

The "standard" part would be the 7815, which is about a 1amp 15volt regulator.
A 78L15 has about 100mA output and is usuall/always in a to-92 package.
The 78M15 is somewhere between the two, I would have guessed 500mA but
it's been a long time since I looked it up, and I think is generally in
a to-5 package.

I think someone suggested the "H" was for a high current version because
there was one device years ago that wasn't a three terminal regulator
or something and did use a suffix to denote current.

I don't have a clue what the "H" at the end is for. Suffixes are generally
about package type or makeup (such as plastic or metal). The specifics
might vary from manufucturer to manufacturer. I suppose the suffix
might even indicate temperature range (consumer equipment is generally
less fussy in this regard), but I can't say I've ever seen that in
regards to three terminal regulators, and a glance at databook shows
nothing in this regard.

Michael


This one is in a TO-220 case and has a heatsink on it. It runs very hot,

hotter than any other component in the box, even the output trannies run
cool compared to this regulator. You can almost burn yourself on the
heatsink.

I was hoping that it was indeed a high power unit as that would explain
the excessive heat generated from the normal one.

- Tim -

 

[Lostgallifreyan]

et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) wrote in
news:euu28e$o7j$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:

The 78M15 is somewhere between the two, I would have guessed 500mA but
it's been a long time since I looked it up, and I think is generally in
a to-5 package.

I've seen several devices with an M variant in a TO126 package, kind of
like a thin flat TO220. It's a nice package, I wish more devices used it.

 

[Ryan Weihl]

Tim wrote:

In article <euspj9$epo$1@aioe.org>, nixnam@noname.net says...
Tim wrote:

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may
be causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the
standard 78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Thanks,

- Tim -

look here: http://www.datasheets.org.uk/specsheet.php?part=UPC78M15H

rw


Thanks for the link, but I looked at the specs there, and it says it
is 350 ma not 5A.

Still confused....

- Tim -

accoring to that spec sheet it is a 78M15 in a to220 package.
me saying 5A was an error and I removed that ansewr again
rw

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[Franc Zabkar]

On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:27:00 GMT, Tim <tim@tim.tim> put finger to
keyboard and composed:

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Thanks,

- Tim -

The list of uPC parts in my vrt databook would suggest that a H suffix
generally denotes a SIP, SIL, or SILP package. A C suffix appears to
be used for DIPs, G for MDIP, and V for SQP. Therefore I suspect that
in your case the "H" also refers in some way to the package style. I
suppose you could think of a TO-220 package as a "3-SIL" ???

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[jntel]

"Tim" <tim@tim.tim> wrote in message
news:MPG.207baf945f3cd844989738@allnews.nbnet.nb.ca...

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Thanks,

- Tim -

Tim,

It's an obsolete NEC Electronics part.

http://nec.search.biglobe.ne.jp/cgi-bin/search-en-ed-order.cgi?res_mode=order&q=UPC78M15&start=0&num=10&restrict=&s=all&lr=lang_en&lang=all

Hope it has more info than you have now.

Jeff

 

[Ross Herbert]

On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:27:00 GMT, Tim <tim@tim.tim> wrote:

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Thanks,

- Tim -

I don't think the H means anything of consequence. I don't know why
NEC used the M in the middle either. Originally, when Fairchild and
Natsemi first started out with these 3 terminal regulators they used
78L.. for the TO92 plastic "low" power version, 78M.. for the TO39
"medium" power version and 78.. for the TO220 (1A max) version.

The NEC version is an isolated TO220 plastic type which has a lower
current rating (350mA) than the standard metal tabbed 78.. TO220
version available from other manufacturers.

Datasheet archive has a datasheet on the UPC78M00A series here
http://www.datasheetarchive.com/search.php?q=upc78m15&sType=part&ExactDS=Starts

The A simply denotes a better load regulation than the version without
the A and you can substitute this part if preferred.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Ross Herbert wrote:

On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:27:00 GMT, Tim <tim@tim.tim> wrote:

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Thanks,

- Tim -

I don't think the H means anything of consequence. I don't know why
NEC used the M in the middle either. Originally, when Fairchild and
Natsemi first started out with these 3 terminal regulators they used
78L.. for the TO92 plastic "low" power version, 78M.. for the TO39
"medium" power version and 78.. for the TO220 (1A max) version.

The original 1A regulators were in TO-3 cases.

The NEC version is an isolated TO220 plastic type which has a lower
current rating (350mA) than the standard metal tabbed 78.. TO220
version available from other manufacturers.

Datasheet archive has a datasheet on the UPC78M00A series here
http://www.datasheetarchive.com/search.php?q=upc78m15&sType=part&ExactDS=Starts

The A simply denotes a better load regulation than the version without
the A and you can substitute this part if preferred.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Ray King]

Tim,

The "H" probably means high voltage input. The heat produced by a series
regulator is the same no matter what the part number.That is if it regulates
to the same out put voltage. The series regulators are almost always the
hottest semi in a circuit.
Ray


"Tim" <tim@tim.tim> wrote in message
news:MPG.207baf945f3cd844989738@allnews.nbnet.nb.ca...

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Thanks,

- Tim -

 

[Jeff Volp]

"Tim" <tim@tim.tim> wrote in message
news:MPG.207baf945f3cd844989738@allnews.nbnet.nb.ca...

This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Years ago when I ordered those things, the H suffix meant the TO5/TO39 metal
can package.

Jeff

 

[Ross Herbert]

On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 00:07:05 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Ross Herbert wrote:
I don't think the H means anything of consequence. I don't know why
NEC used the M in the middle either. Originally, when Fairchild and
Natsemi first started out with these 3 terminal regulators they
used 78L.. for the TO92 plastic "low" power version, 78M.. for the
TO39 "medium" power version and 78.. for the TO220 (1A max) version.


The original 1A regulators were in TO-3 cases.

Since the linear monolithic regulator first appeared it has grown to
encompass many and varied versions and packages. I will disregard all
but the original versions in this discussion.

Around 1970-71, before the 78/79 series appeared on the scene Natsemi
had the LM340 series +VE regulator series which were available in both
TO220 and TO3 cases. And before this Natsemi had the LM309 fixed 5V
reg in both TO39 and TO3 cases. Bob Dobkin who worked for Natsemi was
credited as the inventor of the monolithic linear voltage regulator.
http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/Index.cfm?AD=1&ArticleID=2851

Subsequent to the LM340 series - around 1972 - Natsemi released the
-VE equivalents to the LM340 series as the LM320 series, however these
were only in the TO39 and TO3 cases initially, and sometime later they
were available in the TO220 case. Both LM340 and 320 versions were
eventually available in TO39, TO220 and TO3 packages (and also smd).

I think I am correct in saying that the 78/79 series series
regulators, came after the 340/320 series and were subsequently
manufactured by Natsemi, Fairchild, Motorola and many others, and
became accepted as the industry standard types. The internal circuitry
of the original 78/79 series was almost identical to the original
340/320 series and today Natsemi uses a common datasheet which
includes both types. This seems to indicate they are now internally
exactly the same.

 

[Ross Herbert]

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 04:45:23 GMT, "Jeff Volp" <JeffVolp@msn.com>
wrote:

"Tim" <tim@tim.tim> wrote in message
news:MPG.207baf945f3cd844989738@allnews.nbnet.nb.ca...
This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Years ago when I ordered those things, the H suffix meant the
TO5/TO39 metal
can package.

Jeff

Yep, Natsemi did use the H to denote their TO39 versions - not the M
as I said in another post.

 

[Michael Black]

Ross Herbert (rherber1@bigpond.net.au) writes:

Around 1970-71, before the 78/79 series appeared on the scene Natsemi
had the LM340 series +VE regulator series which were available in both
TO220 and TO3 cases. And before this Natsemi had the LM309 fixed 5V
reg in both TO39 and TO3 cases. Bob Dobkin who worked for Natsemi was
credited as the inventor of the monolithic linear voltage regulator.
http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/Index.cfm?AD=1&ArticleID=2851

That's the way I remember it, that there was the 309 and the 340 series

and then sometime later the 78XX numbering arrived. I'm not even sure
I remember TO-220 cases in the beginning.

Michael

 

[Tim]

In article <a7tb13tfi4so31klbsgtfoj0bh1o9m8m5f@4ax.com>, rherber1
@bigpond.net.au says...

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 04:45:23 GMT, "Jeff Volp" <JeffVolp@msn.com
wrote:

"Tim" <tim@tim.tim> wrote in message
news:MPG.207baf945f3cd844989738@allnews.nbnet.nb.ca...
This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Years ago when I ordered those things, the H suffix meant the
TO5/TO39 metal
can package.

Jeff


Yep, Natsemi did use the H to denote their TO39 versions - not the M
as I said in another post.

Well now I'm getting more confused. The part number listed in the

service manual, that is on it's way to me, is UPC78M15H. I had the guy
that is sending it check for that info. The part was made by NEC, the
same manufacturer that makes the 78M15 that is in there now. The PC
board is made for a TO-220 style pinout and heat sink, complete with
mounting holes.

Am I correct in remembering that a T039 id a round metal can about 1/4
inch across or so, and would have the 3 pads at 120 degree intervals?

- Tim -

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jeff Volp wrote:

"Tim" <tim@tim.tim> wrote in message
news:MPG.207baf945f3cd844989738@allnews.nbnet.nb.ca...
This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Years ago when I ordered those things, the H suffix meant the TO5/TO39 metal
can package.

Jeff

I remeber a lot of surplus TO-3 parts hit the surplus market about 6
months to a year after the T)-220 parts hit the streets. They were
finally cheap enough for hobby work. You didn't mind buying them by the
dozen, instead of asking, DO I REALLY need a regulator for this?


The Online NTE cross reference should list some of the early
variations, if they can still supply replacement parts.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Tim]

In article <4616A328.D337C612@earthlink.net>, mike.terrell@earthlink.net
says...

Jeff Volp wrote:

"Tim" <tim@tim.tim> wrote in message
news:MPG.207baf945f3cd844989738@allnews.nbnet.nb.ca...
This part has been replaced with an off the shelf 78M15, but may be
causing noise. Is there something special about the UPC78M15H?

I did a spec sheet search on it, and found lots about the standard
78M15, but not with the "H" on the end.

Years ago when I ordered those things, the H suffix meant the TO5/TO39 metal
can package.

Jeff


I remeber a lot of surplus TO-3 parts hit the surplus market about 6
months to a year after the T)-220 parts hit the streets. They were
finally cheap enough for hobby work. You didn't mind buying them by the
dozen, instead of asking, DO I REALLY need a regulator for this?


The Online NTE cross reference should list some of the early
variations, if they can still supply replacement parts.


Their X ref specs the NTE 968 for the entire *78*15* lineup. Although it

does say the output is in excess of 1 amp when heat sinked properly.

I did see someone selling the actual UPC78M15H on the net at about $12
US. A bit steep for a 2 dollar part.

- Tim -