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[The Real Bev]

On 12/02/2016 12:41 PM, AL wrote:

On 12/2/2016 1:01 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 11/30/2016 11:15 PM, AL wrote:
On 11/30/2016 10:51 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 11/30/2016 09:20 PM, AL wrote:

For those contemplating the procedure my only advice is don't
wait.

Or at least wait until insurance covers it.

For sure. Mine cost me 50 bucks an eye.

Was that for 'normal' lenses or toric/multifocals?

Normal lenses with UV and blue light filter.

Medicare pays for ordinary lenses, but the user has to pay the
difference for the fancy lenses. $1K each for torics and $3K each
for toric multifocals.

I'm on a Medicare Advantage (independent insurance company's) HMO plan
and the $50 was an outpatient co-pay per procedure. I was offered other
types of lenses at the time but it's been ten years and I don't remember
what they were or any added costs.

I wouldn't dream of having an HMO; they make money when they DON'T
treat you. If our entire SS payment goes to Medicare plus the PPO
supplement (costs 4x as much to pay 20% of the negotiated cost!) plus
the drug benefit, I'm happy, although it probably will never come to
that. We can go to any doc we want whenever we want (within the usual
appointment limits, of course) without having to visit an asshole GP
gatekeeper for permission. If we want Ahnold's cardiogenius surgeon to
do our valve replacement we can have that. In fact we DID have that!


--
Cheers, Bev
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frankly, we were worried about the quality."
-- mortuary commercial

 

[AL]

On 12/2/2016 1:56 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

> I wouldn't dream of having an HMO;

Different strokes for different folks.

> they make money when they DON'T treat you.

That's good. I've always preferred not to be treated.

> We can go to any doc we want whenever we want

At $10 a visit?

> without having to visit an asshole GP

But I like my asshole GP.

> gatekeeper for permission.

Authorization can be obtained by phone and lasts a year.

If we want Ahnold's cardiogenius surgeon to do our valve replacement
we can have that.

I didn't know Arnold Schwarzenegger was a doctor...

 

[The Real Bev]

On 12/02/2016 01:23 PM, AL wrote:

On 12/2/2016 1:56 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

I wouldn't dream of having an HMO;

Different strokes for different folks.

they make money when they DON'T treat you.

That's good. I've always preferred not to be treated.

"Well, I don't think you need that valve replacement, you can just take
6 meds for life, be tired all the time, be covered with bruises and die
early..."

We can go to any doc we want whenever we want

At $10 a visit?

Zero co-pay. The Blue Shield Plan F supplementary policy pays anything
that Medicare approves but doesn't pay -- copays, deductibles, etc.

without having to visit an asshole GP

But I like my asshole GP.

I haven't had one of those for decades. Neither did my mom or my MIL.

gatekeeper for permission.

Authorization can be obtained by phone and lasts a year.

I would imagine that this depends on the HMO.

If we want Ahnold's cardiogenius surgeon to do our valve replacement
we can have that.

I didn't know Arnold Schwarzenegger was a doctor...

He's not. He had a heart valve replaced by Vaughn Starnes, the top guy
in the field of robotic heart surgery. Check him out on youtube.


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[AL]

On 12/2/2016 3:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

On 12/02/2016 01:23 PM, AL wrote:

"Well, I don't think you need that valve replacement, you can just
take 6 meds for life, be tired all the time, be covered with bruises
and die early..."

I have over 20 cardiologists on my list within a 10 mile radius.

We can go to any doc we want whenever we want

At $10 a visit?

Zero co-pay. The Blue Shield Plan F supplementary policy pays
anything that Medicare approves but doesn't pay -- copays,
deductibles, etc.

Ah. The expensive plan F. I also have that available but it is
$300 a month more than I pay. That would buy a lot $10 doctor visits.

> I haven't had one of those [GP] for decades.

Your Ahnold's cardiogenius surgeon treats the common cold?

Enough. I'm sure we're both damn glad you're not me. You can
have the last word...

 

[The Real Bev]

On 12/02/2016 05:57 PM, AL wrote:

On 12/2/2016 3:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 12/02/2016 01:23 PM, AL wrote:

"Well, I don't think you need that valve replacement, you can just
take 6 meds for life, be tired all the time, be covered with bruises
and die early..."

I have over 20 cardiologists on my list within a 10 mile radius.

We can go to any doc we want whenever we want

At $10 a visit?

Zero co-pay. The Blue Shield Plan F supplementary policy pays
anything that Medicare approves but doesn't pay -- copays,
deductibles, etc.

Ah. The expensive plan F. I also have that available but it is
$300 a month more than I pay. That would buy a lot $10 doctor visits.

Given the price of fancy surgery etc. we're ahead of the game for the
rest of our lives.

for decades.

Your Ahnold's cardiogenius surgeon treats the common cold?

NOBODY treats the common cold unless you mean with aspirin, Benadryl,
chicken soup, etc. I mean a GOOD GP. My latest one actually is good,
but she works only one day a week. It's fortunate that I'm never sick.

Enough. I'm sure we're both damn glad you're not me. You can
have the last word...

OK, I'll take it!

--
Cheers, Bev
"...and then I'll become a veterinarian because I love children."
-- Julie Brown