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Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Guest
On 3/28/2018 6:50 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
That's not my header, dumbo.
LOL
That's not my header, dumbo.
LOL
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pfjw@aol.com
Guest
> Typical Troll path. Did the Army fire you?
Never was, most likely.
Never was, most likely.
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Joerg Lorenz
Guest
Am 28.03.18 um 17:08 schrieb Colonel Edmund J. Burke:
news.albasani.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
Certainly. That is exactly the header of your posting. Typical Troll-path.
Path:
news.albasani.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
Certainly. That is exactly the header of your posting. Typical Troll-path.
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Carlos E.R.
Guest
On 2018-03-29 08:24, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
It is absurd to judge a troll solely for using a free server. I get a
very different path for the same post.
Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!199-v6no6316038itl.0!news-out.google.com!d3-v6ni3566itf.0!nntp.google.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx23.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
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Cheers, Carlos.
It is absurd to judge a troll solely for using a free server. I get a
very different path for the same post.
Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!199-v6no6316038itl.0!news-out.google.com!d3-v6ni3566itf.0!nntp.google.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx23.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
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Cheers, Carlos.
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Frank Slootweg
Guest
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
It's about the right-hand side of the Path. You read a Path from right
to left. The right-hand side indicates (read: should indicate) the
origin server of the post.
The right-hand part of the Path is the same:
Joerg:
You:
In this particular case, a long part of the Path is the same. Normally
it's only one or two !-parts.
The rest of the Path shows how the post got from the origin to your
news server. Because Joerg and you use a different news server, that
part of the Path is different.
HTH.
--
Frank Slootweg, in a past life, (part-time) News server admin in some
tiny 150,000 employee company.
It's about the right-hand side of the Path. You read a Path from right
to left. The right-hand side indicates (read: should indicate) the
origin server of the post.
The right-hand part of the Path is the same:
Joerg:
You:
In this particular case, a long part of the Path is the same. Normally
it's only one or two !-parts.
The rest of the Path shows how the post got from the origin to your
news server. Because Joerg and you use a different news server, that
part of the Path is different.
HTH.
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Frank Slootweg, in a past life, (part-time) News server admin in some
tiny 150,000 employee company.
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Bennett
Guest
On 3/26/2018 5:43 PM, Terry Schwartz wrote:
and many different sizes of heat shrink would otherwise be necessary to
build up a strain relief. I've not been able to make Sugru
reinforcements look good but the stuff works like a charm.
I too use Sugru, especially where the connector/wire ratio is very large
and many different sizes of heat shrink would otherwise be necessary to
build up a strain relief. I've not been able to make Sugru
reinforcements look good but the stuff works like a charm.
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pfjw@aol.com
Guest
Guys and Gals!
You are feeding the troll simply by continuing the discussion.
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
You are feeding the troll simply by continuing the discussion.
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
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Joerg Lorenz
Guest
Am 29.03.18 um 11:52 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
This is not only a free server it is an anonymous server. The user has
no obligation to identify himself. That is the reason why these servers
are so popular with trolls. And the very first nntp-server on the line
(in fact close to the end) tells you the injection point because these
troll-servers also suppress the injection-info.
It is easily possible that the routing to your server looks different
but not the injection point.
CU
This is not only a free server it is an anonymous server. The user has
no obligation to identify himself. That is the reason why these servers
are so popular with trolls. And the very first nntp-server on the line
(in fact close to the end) tells you the injection point because these
troll-servers also suppress the injection-info.
It is easily possible that the routing to your server looks different
but not the injection point.
CU
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Joerg Lorenz
Guest
Am 29.03.18 um 18:00 schrieb Frank Slootweg:
The injection point is: news.highwinds-media.com, a typical troll-server.
The injection point is: news.highwinds-media.com, a typical troll-server.
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83LowRider
Guest
On 3/26/2018 7:27 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
Lots of replies, so this may have been suggested already
http://i.imgur.com/aJUXf.jpg
Taken from any 'click' pen.
Lots of replies, so this may have been suggested already
http://i.imgur.com/aJUXf.jpg
Taken from any 'click' pen.
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Erholt Rhein
Guest
83LowRider wrote in <news
9jk3s$gj2$1@dont-email.me>:
That's the best idea ever!
http://i.imgur.com/aJUXf.jpg\
The pen spring was suggested but until I saw your photo I didn't think the
pen spring would work. You showed that a pen spring _is_ big enough to roll
onto the Apple cable becoming what I had called a strain relief but I don't
know what it's called because others said it's not a strain relief.
That picture is PERFECT for what I want to do, and is the best and cheapest
answer yet and it relieves the strain gradually which is another perfect
thing!
Now I have to root through the trash to find all those Bic click pens I've
thrown away over the years! LOL
9jk3s$gj2$1@dont-email.me>:That's the best idea ever!
http://i.imgur.com/aJUXf.jpg\
The pen spring was suggested but until I saw your photo I didn't think the
pen spring would work. You showed that a pen spring _is_ big enough to roll
onto the Apple cable becoming what I had called a strain relief but I don't
know what it's called because others said it's not a strain relief.
That picture is PERFECT for what I want to do, and is the best and cheapest
answer yet and it relieves the strain gradually which is another perfect
thing!
Now I have to root through the trash to find all those Bic click pens I've
thrown away over the years! LOL
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Carlos E.R.
Guest
On 2018-03-29 22:37, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Well, I have been using news.aioe.org and freenews.netfront.net for a
long time, and I'm certainly no troll. I simply do not like to pay and
my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
Thus I make nothing of using a free server.
If a name shifter uses always the same server, well, that's a clue, but
not definitive. Posting from there is not definitive.
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Cheers, Carlos.
Well, I have been using news.aioe.org and freenews.netfront.net for a
long time, and I'm certainly no troll. I simply do not like to pay and
my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
Thus I make nothing of using a free server.
If a name shifter uses always the same server, well, that's a clue, but
not definitive. Posting from there is not definitive.
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Cheers, Carlos.
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Terry Schwartz
Guest
On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 3:59:43 PM UTC-5, 83LowRider wrote:
Interesting, in that picture, the USB cable jacket is *already* compromised.
Interesting, in that picture, the USB cable jacket is *already* compromised.
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pfjw@aol.com
Guest
late to this, but:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Plasti-Dip-14-5-fl-oz-Blue-Dip-Coating/3760681?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA_ONLY-_-Paint-_-SprayPaint-_-3760681lasti_Dip&CAWELAID=&kpid=3760681&CAGPSPN=pla&k_clickID=2e6d9979-34bc-4d57-981a-7e5b8c919e05&gclid=CjwKCAjwwPfVBRBiEiwAdkM0HYLWkX1YPuaryO2wZ-nccP5uP6lj6efcq7BaNfkdh9EH2KSr257DZBoC4mUQAvD_BwE
Install with an expendable brush.
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Plasti-Dip-14-5-fl-oz-Blue-Dip-Coating/3760681?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA_ONLY-_-Paint-_-SprayPaint-_-3760681
lasti_Dip&CAWELAID=&kpid=3760681&CAGPSPN=pla&k_clickID=2e6d9979-34bc-4d57-981a-7e5b8c919e05&gclid=CjwKCAjwwPfVBRBiEiwAdkM0HYLWkX1YPuaryO2wZ-nccP5uP6lj6efcq7BaNfkdh9EH2KSr257DZBoC4mUQAvD_BwE Install with an expendable brush.
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
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Frank Slootweg
Guest
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
[...]
True, but for example aioe *is* used by a lot of trolls. Example: Our
resident nymshifter.
Huh? Aren't you using the pay-server News.Individual.[NET|DE]? :
> Path: uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
That's your Path to me, i.e. we're both on News.Individual.[NET|DE].
[...]
[...]
True, but for example aioe *is* used by a lot of trolls. Example: Our
resident nymshifter.
Huh? Aren't you using the pay-server News.Individual.[NET|DE]? :
> Path: uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
That's your Path to me, i.e. we're both on News.Individual.[NET|DE].
[...]
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Carlos E.R.
Guest
On 2018-03-30 17:06, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Now it is, but it wasn't a year ago
My system may still use aioe if the primary server fails. When using
leafnode one has a primary server and may have several others as
secondaries.
You could use a scoring system: if the posting server is a free one, add
some points. But you need other clues to add points to assure certainty.
For instance, that it is a new name, that it talks a certain way, has
some traits... ;-)
My issue is with thinking that a poster using aioe alone meaning he is a
troll or spammer.
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Cheers, Carlos.
Now it is, but it wasn't a year ago
My system may still use aioe if the primary server fails. When using
leafnode one has a primary server and may have several others as
secondaries.
You could use a scoring system: if the posting server is a free one, add
some points. But you need other clues to add points to assure certainty.
For instance, that it is a new name, that it talks a certain way, has
some traits... ;-)
My issue is with thinking that a poster using aioe alone meaning he is a
troll or spammer.
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Cheers, Carlos.
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Frank Slootweg
Guest
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
I see.
NIN failing!? Can't happen! But seriously, I can also use multiple
servers as I have Hamster on my system, i.e. a local, private News
server on Windows, much like leafnode on UNIX/Linux.
Yeah, I agree. Same thing as people ruling out posters using Google
Groups (or posters using Linux!).
On 2018-03-30 17:06, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
[...]
Well, I have been using news.aioe.org and freenews.netfront.net for a
long time, and I'm certainly no troll.
True, but for example aioe *is* used by a lot of trolls. Example: Our
resident nymshifter.
I simply do not like to pay and
my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
Huh? Aren't you using the pay-server News.Individual.[NET|DE]? :
Now it is, but it wasn't a year ago
I see.
NIN failing!? Can't happen!
But seriously, I can also use multipleservers as I have Hamster on my system, i.e. a local, private News
server on Windows, much like leafnode on UNIX/Linux.
Yeah, I agree. Same thing as people ruling out posters using Google
Groups (or posters using Linux!
).
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Joerg Lorenz
Guest
Am 30.03.18 um 13:56 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
Free and anonymous are not the same. And I did not say all useres of
these servers are trolls but almost all trolls use these servers.
A free server but not anonymous would be the following:
https://www.eternal-september.org/?language=en&showpage=home
> Thus I make nothing of using a free server.
That's why I had to put you on my "troll server"-exception list to be
able to read you.
Joerg
Free and anonymous are not the same. And I did not say all useres of
these servers are trolls but almost all trolls use these servers.
A free server but not anonymous would be the following:
https://www.eternal-september.org/?language=en&showpage=home
> Thus I make nothing of using a free server.
That's why I had to put you on my "troll server"-exception list to be
able to read you.
Joerg
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Joerg Lorenz
Guest
Am 30.03.18 um 19:17 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
Nobody said anything like that.
I use more than one server as well but no anonymous servers.
news-out.google.com
news.netfront.net and
aioe.org
are responsible for a vast majority of troll postings in the usenet.
Joerg
Nobody said anything like that.
I use more than one server as well but no anonymous servers.
news-out.google.com
news.netfront.net and
aioe.org
are responsible for a vast majority of troll postings in the usenet.
Joerg
Guest
micky posted for all of us...
Are they two ply? Pink on one side and blue on the other?
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Tekkie
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:10:43 -0700, The Real Bev
bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/26/2018 07:54 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 3/26/18 6:27 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that comes with
the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
Would flexible/stretchable tape work?
My friend uses that expensive clay-like stuff and is happy with it. She
gave us a small lump of it, but it's too good to use
We still have paper towels used to wipe car windows without smearing
that a gas station gave my mother in 1962, They are too good to use.
Are they two ply? Pink on one side and blue on the other?
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Tekkie