What can I buy at Walmart for dial string?

[rickman]

oldschool@tubes.com wrote on 8/24/2017 12:42 PM:

On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 11:28:20 +1000, Trevor Wilson
trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

On 23/08/2017 3:23 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
There are no electronic stores anywhere near me. I cant believe the
prices they want on ebay for this string. (There is some Australia
source selling 12 meters of it for around $7 and wanting $45
shipping.... that's insane).

Anyhow, it's just string, but I know it needs to be strong and last for
years. Walmart has a lot of sewing and hobby stuff. Maybe there is a
thick thread that will work.

Someone on another forum suggested using fishing line. I know that stuff
is durable, but I know little more, since I dont fish. What guage and
material should I look for? If some of you are fishermen, maybe you
could just tell me what brand name and item number to buy. This cant be
rocket science. It's just string..... But what will work and last?

* I am currently needing to replace the dial string on a Zenith Trans
Oceanic radio, as well as the radio in a late 1960s era console stereo.

Thanks


**I have two, 100 Metre spools of dial cord here. One is 0.4mm and the
other is 0.3mm. How much do you need, which size and where do I post it?
Yes, I am in Australia. I cannot believe that it is unavailable in other
places.

https://www.wagneronline.com.au/dial-cord/ps/

Seems that Australia is the place to get dial string. Not sure why.....
Everything else comes from China these days.

But from what I saw on ebay, I am not willing to pay the shipping from
Australia.... And considering that this is just string, I dont see any
reason to import it. It's just string (or thread).

You can't afford $1.58? For $6 you can have 33 feet of 30 mil dial cord
delivered to your door. I wouldn't drive to the store for this when it is
delivered so cheaply. You will have to buy a lot more fishing line and
spend a lot more money.

You seem to have a habit of running into a small obstacle and seeing it as a
mountain. There is very affordable dial cord available from many sources,
so there is no reason to not buy the "right" stuff. If there is nothing
wrong with the radio tuning mechanism that is wearing the cord abnormally a
properly done restringing will last longer then you do. Why muck around
with a substitute when you can get the real stuff so easily (or would it be
"reel" stuff)?

BTW, here is a tip when searching ebay. When they present the search
results you can sort on "Price + shipping: lowest first". This will include
the cost of shipping and show you the lowest priced items first. Then you
just won't see the vendors who are trying to rip you off on shipping hoping
you won't notice.

--

Rick C

Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 25/08/2017 2:42 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 11:28:20 +1000, Trevor Wilson
trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

On 23/08/2017 3:23 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
There are no electronic stores anywhere near me. I cant believe the
prices they want on ebay for this string. (There is some Australia
source selling 12 meters of it for around $7 and wanting $45
shipping.... that's insane).

Anyhow, it's just string, but I know it needs to be strong and last for
years. Walmart has a lot of sewing and hobby stuff. Maybe there is a
thick thread that will work.

Someone on another forum suggested using fishing line. I know that stuff
is durable, but I know little more, since I dont fish. What guage and
material should I look for? If some of you are fishermen, maybe you
could just tell me what brand name and item number to buy. This cant be
rocket science. It's just string..... But what will work and last?

* I am currently needing to replace the dial string on a Zenith Trans
Oceanic radio, as well as the radio in a late 1960s era console stereo.

Thanks


**I have two, 100 Metre spools of dial cord here. One is 0.4mm and the
other is 0.3mm. How much do you need, which size and where do I post it?
Yes, I am in Australia. I cannot believe that it is unavailable in other
places.

https://www.wagneronline.com.au/dial-cord/ps/

Seems that Australia is the place to get dial string. Not sure why.....
Everything else comes from China these days.

But from what I saw on ebay, I am not willing to pay the shipping from
Australia.... And considering that this is just string, I dont see any
reason to import it. It's just string (or thread).

I'll look to get suitable fishing line.

**You've got to be kidding! I just offered to send you some for free!
You pay for postage. Can't be more than a couple of Bucks. A couple of
Metres will fit in a standard envelope. I wasn't planning on sending a
whole spool of the stuff. Stop nickel and diming the thing. Either buy
the right stuff to do the job or accept my offer. BTW: My dial cord is
made in Taiwan, not China.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <f08qkkFllqgU2@mid.individual.net>,
trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au says...

On 25/08/2017 2:42 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 11:28:20 +1000, Trevor Wilson
trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

On 23/08/2017 3:23 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
There are no electronic stores anywhere near me. I cant believe the
prices they want on ebay for this string. (There is some Australia
source selling 12 meters of it for around $7 and wanting $45
shipping.... that's insane).

Anyhow, it's just string, but I know it needs to be strong and last for
years. Walmart has a lot of sewing and hobby stuff. Maybe there is a
thick thread that will work.

Someone on another forum suggested using fishing line. I know that stuff
is durable, but I know little more, since I dont fish. What guage and
material should I look for? If some of you are fishermen, maybe you
could just tell me what brand name and item number to buy. This cant be
rocket science. It's just string..... But what will work and last?

* I am currently needing to replace the dial string on a Zenith Trans
Oceanic radio, as well as the radio in a late 1960s era console stereo.

Thanks


**I have two, 100 Metre spools of dial cord here. One is 0.4mm and the
other is 0.3mm. How much do you need, which size and where do I post it?
Yes, I am in Australia. I cannot believe that it is unavailable in other
places.

https://www.wagneronline.com.au/dial-cord/ps/

Seems that Australia is the place to get dial string. Not sure why.....
Everything else comes from China these days.

But from what I saw on ebay, I am not willing to pay the shipping from
Australia.... And considering that this is just string, I dont see any
reason to import it. It's just string (or thread).

I'll look to get suitable fishing line.


**You've got to be kidding! I just offered to send you some for free!
You pay for postage. Can't be more than a couple of Bucks. A couple of
Metres will fit in a standard envelope. I wasn't planning on sending a
whole spool of the stuff. Stop nickel and diming the thing. Either buy
the right stuff to do the job or accept my offer. BTW: My dial cord is
made in Taiwan, not China.

He is really tight. This might even be the same cord.

$ 5.62 for 10 meters including that high price of about a buck and a
half for shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIAL-CORD-0-8-mm-synthetic-cord-10-metres-to-
suit-radios/222592615826?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%
3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3Dca3db13179c64681aa64f94629564bb7%26pid%
3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D391772693645
&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

eBay item number:22259261582

 

[Tim R]

If all else fails go to a music store.

The valve linkage on French horns and some models of trombone are strung with the same stuff.

(of course most of us use fish line) (but you can buy the stuff designated for instruments)

 

[John-Del]

On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 4:18:33 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 25/08/2017 2:42 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 11:28:20 +1000, Trevor Wilson
trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

On 23/08/2017 3:23 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
There are no electronic stores anywhere near me. I cant believe the
prices they want on ebay for this string. (There is some Australia
source selling 12 meters of it for around $7 and wanting $45
shipping.... that's insane).

Anyhow, it's just string, but I know it needs to be strong and last for
years. Walmart has a lot of sewing and hobby stuff. Maybe there is a
thick thread that will work.

Someone on another forum suggested using fishing line. I know that stuff
is durable, but I know little more, since I dont fish. What guage and
material should I look for? If some of you are fishermen, maybe you
could just tell me what brand name and item number to buy. This cant be
rocket science. It's just string..... But what will work and last?

* I am currently needing to replace the dial string on a Zenith Trans
Oceanic radio, as well as the radio in a late 1960s era console stereo.

Thanks


**I have two, 100 Metre spools of dial cord here. One is 0.4mm and the
other is 0.3mm. How much do you need, which size and where do I post it?
Yes, I am in Australia. I cannot believe that it is unavailable in other
places.

https://www.wagneronline.com.au/dial-cord/ps/

Seems that Australia is the place to get dial string. Not sure why.....
Everything else comes from China these days.

But from what I saw on ebay, I am not willing to pay the shipping from
Australia.... And considering that this is just string, I dont see any
reason to import it. It's just string (or thread).

I'll look to get suitable fishing line.


**You've got to be kidding! I just offered to send you some for free!
You pay for postage. ...
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

Free is a admittedly a generous offer Trevor, but can you do better?

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 26/08/2017 12:08 AM, John-Del wrote:

On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 4:18:33 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 25/08/2017 2:42 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 11:28:20 +1000, Trevor Wilson
trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

On 23/08/2017 3:23 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
There are no electronic stores anywhere near me. I cant believe the
prices they want on ebay for this string. (There is some Australia
source selling 12 meters of it for around $7 and wanting $45
shipping.... that's insane).

Anyhow, it's just string, but I know it needs to be strong and last for
years. Walmart has a lot of sewing and hobby stuff. Maybe there is a
thick thread that will work.

Someone on another forum suggested using fishing line. I know that stuff
is durable, but I know little more, since I dont fish. What guage and
material should I look for? If some of you are fishermen, maybe you
could just tell me what brand name and item number to buy. This cant be
rocket science. It's just string..... But what will work and last?

* I am currently needing to replace the dial string on a Zenith Trans
Oceanic radio, as well as the radio in a late 1960s era console stereo.

Thanks


**I have two, 100 Metre spools of dial cord here. One is 0.4mm and the
other is 0.3mm. How much do you need, which size and where do I post it?
Yes, I am in Australia. I cannot believe that it is unavailable in other
places.

https://www.wagneronline.com.au/dial-cord/ps/

Seems that Australia is the place to get dial string. Not sure why.....
Everything else comes from China these days.

But from what I saw on ebay, I am not willing to pay the shipping from
Australia.... And considering that this is just string, I dont see any
reason to import it. It's just string (or thread).

I'll look to get suitable fishing line.


**You've got to be kidding! I just offered to send you some for free!
You pay for postage. ...
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



Free is a admittedly a generous offer Trevor, but can you do better?

**LOL! He wants everything, doesn't he?

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 06:18:18 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

**You've got to be kidding! I just offered to send you some for free!
You pay for postage. Can't be more than a couple of Bucks. A couple of
Metres will fit in a standard envelope. I wasn't planning on sending a
whole spool of the stuff. Stop nickel and diming the thing. Either buy
the right stuff to do the job or accept my offer. BTW: My dial cord is
made in Taiwan, not China.

You didn't say in your post you were sending it for free, just that you
had it. I think the original was .5mm, but .4mm would probably work.
However, I dont know what the shipping would be. If it's anywhere near
what I saw on Ebay, I wont do it. $45 shipping for 12ft of string wound
around a tiny piece of cardboard is ridiculous. Apparently shipping from
Aus. is extremely high.

I'd rather just buy a spool of fishing line and have it on hand. But
since no one on this newsgroup is willing to give me a brand name and
UPC code, then my whole question was a waste of my time. I looked at
fishing line at Walmart. I never knew there were so many brands of the
stuff, with prices ranging from $1.29 to over $15. All of them are
sealed in plastic, so I cant determine the thickness, and all of them
sold appeared to be single strand clear plastic, rated by weight, not
diameter or material.

So, the hell with any further comments from me. I have a few email
addresses of people who are ham radio operators. Maybe they can provide
some real help, since it's obvious I wont get it here.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 28/08/2017 3:12 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 06:18:18 +1000, Trevor Wilson
trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:


**You've got to be kidding! I just offered to send you some for free!
You pay for postage. Can't be more than a couple of Bucks. A couple of
Metres will fit in a standard envelope. I wasn't planning on sending a
whole spool of the stuff. Stop nickel and diming the thing. Either buy
the right stuff to do the job or accept my offer. BTW: My dial cord is
made in Taiwan, not China.


You didn't say in your post you were sending it for free, just that you
had it. I think the original was .5mm, but .4mm would probably work.
However, I dont know what the shipping would be. If it's anywhere near
what I saw on Ebay, I wont do it. $45 shipping for 12ft of string wound
around a tiny piece of cardboard is ridiculous. Apparently shipping from
Aus. is extremely high.

**AUS$2.95 according to my Australia Post online calculator:

https://auspost.com.au/parcels-mail/calculate-postage-delivery-times/#/option/international/AU/US?fromPostcode=2225

I don't regard AUS$2.95 as "extremely high".

I'd rather just buy a spool of fishing line and have it on hand. But
since no one on this newsgroup is willing to give me a brand name and
UPC code, then my whole question was a waste of my time.

**Well, no, it wasn't. You were provided with a wide variety of
solutions, including the correct stuff to do the job. Including my
offer, of course.


I looked at

fishing line at Walmart. I never knew there were so many brands of the
stuff, with prices ranging from $1.29 to over $15. All of them are
sealed in plastic, so I cant determine the thickness, and all of them
sold appeared to be single strand clear plastic, rated by weight, not
diameter or material.

So, the hell with any further comments from me. I have a few email
addresses of people who are ham radio operators. Maybe they can provide
some real help, since it's obvious I wont get it here.

**Fuck off then. If you can't recognise real help when you see it, you
don't deserve it.

If you still want the stuff, send my AUS$2.95 and your address and I'll
post you a few Metres.



--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[John-Del]

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 2:12:45 AM UTC-4, olds...@tubes.com wrote:

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 06:18:18 +1000, Trevor Wilson
trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:


**You've got to be kidding! I just offered to send you some for free!
You pay for postage. Can't be more than a couple of Bucks. A couple of
Metres will fit in a standard envelope. I wasn't planning on sending a
whole spool of the stuff. Stop nickel and diming the thing. Either buy
the right stuff to do the job or accept my offer. BTW: My dial cord is
made in Taiwan, not China.


You didn't say in your post you were sending it for free, just that you
had it. I think the original was .5mm, but .4mm would probably work.
However, I dont know what the shipping would be. If it's anywhere near
what I saw on Ebay, I wont do it. $45 shipping for 12ft of string wound
around a tiny piece of cardboard is ridiculous. Apparently shipping from
Aus. is extremely high.

Or perhaps you need to have your eyes examined or stop using an old round screen CRT as a monitor. Here's 32 feet of dial cord shipped around a "tiny piece of cardboard" from Australia for less than 6 bucks U.S. You can do a lot of radios with 32 feet including screwups.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIAL-CORD-0-8-mm-synthetic-cord-10-metres-to-suit-radios-/222592615826?hash=item33d38dc592:g:AGkAAOSweW5U2Wln

So, the hell with any further comments from me. I have a few email
addresses of people who are ham radio operators. Maybe they can provide
some real help, since it's obvious I wont get it here.

You should probably take Trevor's offer as "free" seems to be as low as he's willing to go (unless he throws in a Super "Shammy" if you order now!!).

 

[pfjw@aol.com]

a) If you were to stop whining & puling and start reading for content....
b) If you were to spend 1/10th the effort in thinking outside your tiny little box as you do complaining that the advice offered does not suit you....
c) If you were to try and understand that the community here consists of hundreds of years of experience doing many, many things....

You would be fine. And likely recognize the considerable amount of help you have gotten in these venues from many different individuals on many different subjects.

But, you do none of these things. Full Stop.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 05:28:59 -0700 (PDT), "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>
wrote:

>But, you do none of these things. Full Stop.

And if someone would simply look at their own spool of fishing line and
say the brand name is "xxxxxx" and is sold as item number (or UPC code)
"xxxxxx", I'd probably be awaiting my order from an online sporting
goods store, or possibly already purchased from a brick and mortar store
and I'd already be restringing my radio right now. Instead I continue to
read you and others whining about my posting on this newsgroup.

I cant make it any clearer that I know nothing about fishing, and that
the line sold in the stores is rated by weight, not by diameter, and in
most cases the material it's made from is not even listed, or if it's
braided or solid. And with all of it encased in sealed plastic
containers I cant just choose by feel. All I see are a bunch of plastic
'donuts' hanging on a rack.... That leaves me two choices. Either begin
ripping apart the packages in the store, and probably get arrested for
doing it, or spend $500 to buy every package on the shelf, so I can tear
them all open at home and discard 99% of them, or maybe ALL of them if
none will work.

Take a look in a mirror and you will see who the real whiner is, who
cant comprehend what he reads!!!!

 

On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 16:48:59 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

**Fuck off then. If you can't recognise real help when you see it, you
don't deserve it.

PLONK

 

[pfjw@aol.com]

Dealing with you is a bit like nailing Jell-O or making sense of Donald tRump. Both dubious activities with little discernible reward.

I, amongst others, suggested that you "bring a bit of the old" with you for comparison purposes. And that within considerable margins, thickness is flexible. And that there are thousands of different radios, with more than a few line-weights possible. WHICH MEANS THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO THINK FOR YOURSELF.

The problem with prescriptive (rather than descriptive) advice, is that when (not *if*) you screw it up, we own it. No such thing here. You can figure it out in less time than it takes you post again.

NOTE FOR THE RECORD: WalMart sells all sorts of line in clear plastic shrink-wrap, so the gauge is entirely and easily visible. But that does not fit your view of the world, does it?

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 11:03:22 -0700 (PDT), "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>
wrote:

>And that within considerable margins, thickness is flexible.

And now I know who can not comprehend what they read, since I already
clearly said I need .5mm.

But it's obvious you are too conceited to admit being wrong!!!

 

[John-Del]

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 1:33:05 PM UTC-4, oldfart@tubes.com wrote:

I cant make it any clearer that I know nothing about fishing, and that
the line sold in the stores is rated by weight, not by diameter, and in
most cases the material it's made from is not even listed, or if it's
braided or solid. And with all of it encased in sealed plastic
containers I cant just choose by feel. All I see are a bunch of plastic
'donuts' hanging on a rack.... That leaves me two choices. Either begin
ripping apart the packages in the store, and probably get arrested for
doing it, or spend $500 to buy every package on the shelf, so I can tear
them all open at home and discard 99% of them, or maybe ALL of them if
none will work.

OK, I get it; you want us to do your homework for you.

So, I Googled Walmart fishing line, and one of the lines they sell is "Tuf-LINE". Then, I Googled *that* and found this:

https://tuf-line.com/product/braided-dacron/

If you need some thinner stuff, I found this (again, using that devil's tool - Google):

http://www.eposeidon.com/kastking-fortis-braided-fishing-line

If you scroll downwards (Google "scroll") you'll see they list the diameters of each line they sell. You even have choices of color!

But if you're holding out for Trevor going less than his last offer of free, I would take it as I think he's bottomed out...

 

[pfjw@aol.com]

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 3:30:06 PM UTC-4, olds...@tubes.com wrote:

On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 11:03:22 -0700 (PDT), "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com
wrote:

And that within considerable margins, thickness is flexible.

And now I know who can not comprehend what they read, since I already
clearly said I need .5mm.

But it's obvious you are too conceited to admit being wrong!!!

You may think you need 0.5mm as 0.5mm was there (do you actually have a vernier caliper? Doubtful). But the reality of dial string, with specific reference to Zenith TransOceanics is that anything up to one full mm will be fine, as modern Dacron will take knots better than vintage string - also discussed. Again, had you thought of taking a bit of the old with you, you would rapidly find what you needed. Vintage dial string was measured in gauge or fractions of inches, by the way, nor do they translate exactly to mm. Nor, in fact, would I trust you to be accurate in needing 0.5mm stuff.

See, this is the thing, were you to have any initiative rather than demanding to be spoon-fed with prescriptive advice, you would have filtered out: LOOK. FOR. WOVEN. DACRON. FISHING. LINE. And: TAKE. A. BIT. OF. THE. OLD. WITH. YOU. And, magically, you would have found what you wished in short order. Or, spent $6.00 and gotten the stuff from Australia. But, no, you want a UPC and brand name. And, when, as is very likely, it turns out to be not exactly what you expected, you would have someone handy to blame. Not gonna happen.

Man is born ignorant. However, it takes work to stay stupid - Benjamin Franklin.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

[Tim R]

The old fashioned black braided Dacron line is what you want, in about a 30 pound strength. It used to be the cheapest line you could find. Only kids using worms for sunfish would use it. Oh, and squidders, sometimes.

Be very careful with modern fish line. They sell something called braid (Spiderwire, for example) which will not work at all. It is very very thin for it's strength, difficult to tie, and abrades like crazy. I use some because it casts a mile. But it would not work in a radio.

Rather than go to Walmart, I'd go to a real bricks and mortar sports store - not a chain like Dick's, although they might have it, but something more specialized. And ASK!

Squidding line is the same thing, I think. Also mason line at Home Depot or Lowes is pretty close, might work.

 

[John-Del]

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:12:58 PM UTC-4, Tim R wrote:

The old fashioned black braided Dacron line is what you want, in about a 30 pound strength.

I'm not sure you can use a fast rule like that. The two links I posted for oldfart@tubes.com show radically different diameters for the same pound weight.

This company:

https://tuf-line.com/product/braided-dacron/

Shows their 30LB test as 0.712mm and this company:

http://www.eposeidon.com/kastking-fortis-braided-fishing-line

shows their 30LB test as 0.25mm

Best think to do is check with each manufacturer and pick by diameter not pound weight.

 

On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 12:55:38 -0700 (PDT), "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>
wrote:

> Not gonna happen.

You remind me of a women I once met. She was known as "Dick Teaser".
She would meet a man, talk real big, promise him love and happines,
fame, wealth, and great sex and beyond. Then she would take him on a
date, and get him to spend lots of money on her. After that, she would
take her clothing off, expose all her goods, and as soon as he got
really excited, she would say "Not gonna happen", and walk off with
another man, (and do the same thing to that man).

But she always had something to offer...... lots of false promises, lots
of meaningless words, with nothing worthwhile to back them, and nothing
useful to offer anyone in the end.

You remind me of her in so very, very many ways.

The only difference with you, you never turned me on, got me excited, or
took one cent of my money. And with you I can plonk you with one push of
a button.....

 

On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 13:12:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim R <timothy42b@aol.com>
wrote:

Squidding line is the same thing, I think. Also mason line
at Home Depot or Lowes is pretty close, might work.

THANKS