Washing machine turns the lights on in my house!

Michael Culley · Aug 23, 2004

Every time I use my washing machine it manages to turn on all of the touch lamps in my house. Only the washing machine does this. I
can turn them off during the cycle but it will turn them back on a few minutes later. I think it is during a certain event such as
the motor starting or stopping. Is there any way to stop this?

Thanks,
Michael Culley

Ken Taylor · Aug 23, 2004

"Michael Culley" <mculleyNOSPAM@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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Every time I use my washing machine it manages to turn on all of the touch
lamps in my house. Only the washing machine does this. I
can turn them off during the cycle but it will turn them back on a few
minutes later. I think it is during a certain event such as
the motor starting or stopping. Is there any way to stop this?

Thanks,
Michael Culley

A surge suppressor (on the washing machine outlet) *may* help, but I'd

suggest you have a more serious problem with either the wiring on the
washing machine mains cord/plug, the mains outlet it's plugged into, or the
neutral bar in the fuse box. You probably should get a licenced sparky to
check it out.

Ken

Marty Wallace · Aug 23, 2004

"Michael Culley" <mculleyNOSPAM@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:2ot81oFe8rtdU1@uni-berlin.de...

Every time I use my washing machine it manages to turn on all of the touch
lamps in my house. Only the washing machine does this. I
can turn them off during the cycle but it will turn them back on a few
minutes later. I think it is during a certain event such as
the motor starting or stopping. Is there any way to stop this?

Thanks,
Michael Culley

Yes, don't wash your clothes.

Marty Wallace · Aug 23, 2004

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"Michael Culley" <mculleyNOSPAM@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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Every time I use my washing machine it manages to turn on all of the
touch
lamps in my house. Only the washing machine does this. I
can turn them off during the cycle but it will turn them back on a few
minutes later. I think it is during a certain event such as
the motor starting or stopping. Is there any way to stop this?

Thanks,
Michael Culley

A surge suppressor (on the washing machine outlet) *may* help, but I'd
suggest you have a more serious problem with either the wiring on the
washing machine mains cord/plug, the mains outlet it's plugged into, or
the
neutral bar in the fuse box. You probably should get a licenced sparky to
check it out.

Ken

I'd suggest that it's a voltage spike feeding back through the mains or even

a radiomagnetic pulse causing it. The touch lamp works at a high frequency
like a radio receiver and electrical noise may be enough to operate it. The
RF noise generated by the lamps can cause problems too.

Marty

atec · Aug 23, 2004

you need the services of a competent electrician..

Michael Culley wrote:

Every time I use my washing machine it manages to turn on all of the touch lamps in my house. Only the washing machine does this. I
can turn them off during the cycle but it will turn them back on a few minutes later. I think it is during a certain event such as
the motor starting or stopping. Is there any way to stop this?

Thanks,
Michael Culley

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Martin · Aug 23, 2004

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you need the services of a competent electrician..

or an incompetent electrician, closely followed by a fire-fighter!!! ;-)

Michael Culley wrote:

Every time I use my washing machine it manages to turn on all of the
touch lamps in my house. Only the washing machine does this. I
can turn them off during the cycle but it will turn them back on a few
minutes later. I think it is during a certain event such as
the motor starting or stopping. Is there any way to stop this?

Thanks,
Michael Culley

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mark krawczuk · Aug 23, 2004

hi, maybe try to put a surge protector in the washing machine ., those 240
v ac ones you get for the computer s etc....and / or ones for the touch
lamps as well ?
dunno , worth a try.
mark k

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"Michael Culley" <mculleyNOSPAM@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:2ot81oFe8rtdU1@uni-berlin.de...

Every time I use my washing machine it manages to turn on all of the touch
lamps in my house. Only the washing machine does this. I
can turn them off during the cycle but it will turn them back on a few
minutes later. I think it is during a certain event such as
the motor starting or stopping. Is there any way to stop this?

Thanks,
Michael Culley

atec · Aug 23, 2004

I would think its some sort of emf in the 240v ?. so a filter of some
sort will sort it I expect , maybe some caps to ground in the plug ?

mark krawczuk wrote:

hi, maybe try to put a surge protector in the washing machine ., those 240
v ac ones you get for the computer s etc....and / or ones for the touch
lamps as well ?
dunno , worth a try.
mark k

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"Michael Culley" <mculleyNOSPAM@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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Every time I use my washing machine it manages to turn on all of the touch
lamps in my house. Only the washing machine does this. I
can turn them off during the cycle but it will turn them back on a few
minutes later. I think it is during a certain event such as
the motor starting or stopping. Is there any way to stop this?

Thanks,
Michael Culley

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aussieblu · Aug 23, 2004

What brand and model of washer is it?

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swanny · Aug 23, 2004

Michael Culley wrote:

Every time I use my washing machine it manages to turn on all of the touch lamps in my house. Only the washing machine does this. I
can turn them off during the cycle but it will turn them back on a few minutes later. I think it is during a certain event such as
the motor starting or stopping. Is there any way to stop this?

Thanks,
Michael Culley

And I thought Internet fridges were smart ...

Richie · Aug 24, 2004

The washer just doesn't like working in the dark ;-)

Well, Im a sparky, but its a tad hard to tell whats happening without
actually testing it all. But it sounds like your Active and Neutral may be
crossed (cut and joint or in the GPO), which will feed back voltage through
the netural, which touch lamps rely on for the capacitive charge. Else, you
may have earth leakage from the washing machine (bad electrical joints
etc.), which could be affecting the lamps. As recommended, get a qualified
sparky in to have a look.

"swanny" <blahgswan3blah@blahbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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Michael Culley wrote:
Every time I use my washing machine it manages to turn on all of the
touch lamps in my house. Only the washing machine does this. I
can turn them off during the cycle but it will turn them back on a few
minutes later. I think it is during a certain event such as
the motor starting or stopping. Is there any way to stop this?

Thanks,
Michael Culley

And I thought Internet fridges were smart ...

Franc Zabkar · Aug 24, 2004

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:01:18 +1000, "Michael Culley"
<mculleyNOSPAM@optushome.com.au> put finger to keyboard and composed:

Every time I use my washing machine it manages to turn on all of the touch lamps in my house. Only the washing machine does this. I
can turn them off during the cycle but it will turn them back on a few minutes later. I think it is during a certain event such as
the motor starting or stopping. Is there any way to stop this?

Thanks,
Michael Culley

It could be that the triacs in your touch lamps are affected by dV/dt
switching, ie the triacs switch on when they experience a very fast
transient. If so, then you might consider installing a cheap surge
suppressor between your washing machine and GPO.

- Franc Zabkar
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Michael Culley · Aug 26, 2004

I keep forgetting to check!! I'll have a look tonight and post the model. It might be a simpson. I probably should mention that I
worked on it recently replacing the burnt out drain pump and the pressure switch.

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"aussieblu" <zaussiblu@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:s%lWc.4250$D7.1158@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

What brand and model of washer is it?

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John G · Aug 26, 2004

"Michael Culley" <mculleyNOSPAM@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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I keep forgetting to check!! I'll have a look tonight and post the
model. It might be a simpson. I probably should mention that I
worked on it recently replacing the burnt out drain pump and the
pressure switch.

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Michael Culley

Pity you did not tell us that first up.

I suppose there was no problem before you tampered illegally with the
machine.

If you thought just a little you should have realized YOU did something
wrong and now you have a fair chance of a DEADLY fault.

Get an electrician before you need a Mortician.
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Wot's Your Real Problem?

Michael Culley · Aug 26, 2004

"John G" <Greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:wWaXc.6$xV6.1035@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...

Pity you did not tell us that first up.

I suppose there was no problem before you tampered illegally with the
machine.

If you thought just a little you should have realized YOU did something
wrong and now you have a fair chance of a DEADLY fault.

Get an electrician before you need a Mortician.

No, it did it long before I worked on it (I know, I should have mentioned that too

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David Flew · Aug 26, 2004

So how is it illegal to work on an appliance?

"John G" <Greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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"Michael Culley" <mculleyNOSPAM@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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I keep forgetting to check!! I'll have a look tonight and post the
model. It might be a simpson. I probably should mention that I
worked on it recently replacing the burnt out drain pump and the
pressure switch.

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Michael Culley

Pity you did not tell us that first up.

I suppose there was no problem before you tampered illegally with the
machine.

If you thought just a little you should have realized YOU did something
wrong and now you have a fair chance of a DEADLY fault.

Get an electrician before you need a Mortician.
--
John G

Wot's Your Real Problem?

atec · Aug 26, 2004

Do you have the required electrical certification ?.

David Flew wrote:

So how is it illegal to work on an appliance?

"John G" <Greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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"Michael Culley" <mculleyNOSPAM@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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I keep forgetting to check!! I'll have a look tonight and post the
model. It might be a simpson. I probably should mention that I
worked on it recently replacing the burnt out drain pump and the
pressure switch.

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Michael Culley

Pity you did not tell us that first up.

I suppose there was no problem before you tampered illegally with the
machine.

If you thought just a little you should have realized YOU did something
wrong and now you have a fair chance of a DEADLY fault.

Get an electrician before you need a Mortician.
--
John G

Wot's Your Real Problem?

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Michael Culley · Aug 26, 2004

"aussieblu" <zaussiblu@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:s%lWc.4250$D7.1158@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

What brand and model of washer is it?

I finally remembered to check, it's a simpson esprit 500. Is it something these washers do?

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Ken Taylor · Aug 27, 2004

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"aussieblu" <zaussiblu@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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What brand and model of washer is it?

I finally remembered to check, it's a simpson esprit 500. Is it something
these washers do?

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Michael Culley

Have you tried any of the simple suggestions yet, such as plugging the

machine into a surge suppressor?

Ken

Michael Culley · Aug 27, 2004

"Ken Taylor" <ken123@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message news:2p7ebvFhq0vpU1@uni-berlin.de...

Have you tried any of the simple suggestions yet, such as plugging the
machine into a surge suppressor?

Not yet, I don't have any washing to do at the moment and have been very busy this week. I'll have to look at it next week. I think
I've got a powerboard with a surge suppessor. If that doesn't help I'll try using an extension cord and plugging it into a different
socket somewhere. I'll post the results next week.

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Michael Culley

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