Variac current question

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:39:50 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com <dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:25:06 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 11:30:14 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:


Snip



In my calculations I was assuming no losses, too, so it doesn't
work, in
any case.

Daniel

The diagram I drew at http://petersphotos.com/temp/transformer.jpg makes
perfect sense to me.

If you create a secondary coil in the lower half and seperate the two
circuits, it's just like a normal transformer.

If.....If.....If

What you drew *Will not* work! No if's, no but's, no maybe's!!

Ok, please redraw my diagram showing me where you think the currents
travel.

Scott, I don't have great graphics skills, but:-

http://www.albury.net.au/~dxmm/transformer_mod.jpeg

If you joined the primary and secondary 0V wires, you are left with a
three contact transformer!!
Click to expand...
In your diagram the current for the load should go the other way.

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Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:39:50 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:25:06 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 11:30:14 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:


Snip



In my calculations I was assuming no losses, too, so it doesn't
work, in
any case.

Daniel

The diagram I drew at http://petersphotos.com/temp/transformer.jpg
makes
perfect sense to me.

If you create a secondary coil in the lower half and seperate the two
circuits, it's just like a normal transformer.

If.....If.....If

What you drew *Will not* work! No if's, no but's, no maybe's!!

Ok, please redraw my diagram showing me where you think the currents
travel.

Scott, I don't have great graphics skills, but:-

http://www.albury.net.au/~dxmm/transformer_mod.jpeg

If you joined the primary and secondary 0V wires, you are left with a
three contact transformer!!

In your diagram the current for the load should go the other way.
Click to expand...
Yeap, so it should!! My mistake!!

Daniel
 
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:11:19 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com <dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:39:50 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:25:06 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:



Snip




If.....If.....If

What you drew *Will not* work! No if's, no but's, no maybe's!!

Ok, please redraw my diagram showing me where you think the currents
travel.

Scott, I don't have great graphics skills, but:-

http://www.albury.net.au/~dxmm/transformer_mod.jpeg

If you joined the primary and secondary 0V wires, you are left with a
three contact transformer!!

In your diagram the current for the load should go the other way.

Yeap, so it should!! My mistake!!

Daniel
Click to expand...
I still don't know what you're saying is wrong with my diagram http://petersphotos.com/temp/transformer.jpg

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Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:11:19 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:39:50 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:25:06 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:



Snip




If.....If.....If

What you drew *Will not* work! No if's, no but's, no maybe's!!

Ok, please redraw my diagram showing me where you think the currents
travel.

Scott, I don't have great graphics skills, but:-

http://www.albury.net.au/~dxmm/transformer_mod.jpeg

If you joined the primary and secondary 0V wires, you are left with a
three contact transformer!!

In your diagram the current for the load should go the other way.

Yeap, so it should!! My mistake!!

Daniel

I still don't know what you're saying is wrong with my diagram
http://petersphotos.com/temp/transformer.jpg
Click to expand...
What!! Apart from me saying *it will not work!!*

In my diagram, the 1.5A primary current flows &only* in the primary
winding of the transformer and the 3.0A secondary current flows *only*
in the secondary.

Whereas in your diagram, *you* had both flowing in one part of *your*
coil, which would not work!!

No if's, no but's, no maybe's!!

Daniel
 
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:01:02 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com <dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:11:19 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:39:50 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:








Scott, I don't have great graphics skills, but:-

http://www.albury.net.au/~dxmm/transformer_mod.jpeg

If you joined the primary and secondary 0V wires, you are left with a
three contact transformer!!

In your diagram the current for the load should go the other way.

Yeap, so it should!! My mistake!!

Daniel

I still don't know what you're saying is wrong with my diagram
http://petersphotos.com/temp/transformer.jpg

What!! Apart from me saying *it will not work!!*

In my diagram, the 1.5A primary current flows &only* in the primary
winding of the transformer and the 3.0A secondary current flows *only*
in the secondary.

Whereas in your diagram, *you* had both flowing in one part of *your*
coil, which would not work!!

No if's, no but's, no maybe's!!

Daniel
Click to expand...
The current flowing in my load circuit has to come from somewhere. Redraw my circuit, with the same transformer, showing where you think current flows.
 
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:01:02 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:11:19 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:39:50 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:








Scott, I don't have great graphics skills, but:-

http://www.albury.net.au/~dxmm/transformer_mod.jpeg

If you joined the primary and secondary 0V wires, you are left with a
three contact transformer!!

In your diagram the current for the load should go the other way.

Yeap, so it should!! My mistake!!

Daniel

I still don't know what you're saying is wrong with my diagram
http://petersphotos.com/temp/transformer.jpg

What!! Apart from me saying *it will not work!!*

In my diagram, the 1.5A primary current flows &only* in the primary
winding of the transformer and the 3.0A secondary current flows *only*
in the secondary.

Whereas in your diagram, *you* had both flowing in one part of *your*
coil, which would not work!!

No if's, no but's, no maybe's!!

Daniel

The current flowing in my load circuit has to come from somewhere.
Redraw my circuit, with the same transformer, showing where you think
current flows.
Click to expand...
In my diagram of a couple of days ago, I have tried to use your
transformer, with 240V applied across the primary and 120V developed
across the secondary in a manner that *DOES* work, but *you* will not
see it.

You cannot see the difference!!

Daniel
 
On 12/01/2013 9:40 PM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:01:02 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:11:19 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:39:50 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:








Scott, I don't have great graphics skills, but:-

http://www.albury.net.au/~dxmm/transformer_mod.jpeg

If you joined the primary and secondary 0V wires, you are left
with a
three contact transformer!!

In your diagram the current for the load should go the other way.

Yeap, so it should!! My mistake!!

Daniel

I still don't know what you're saying is wrong with my diagram
http://petersphotos.com/temp/transformer.jpg

What!! Apart from me saying *it will not work!!*

In my diagram, the 1.5A primary current flows &only* in the primary
winding of the transformer and the 3.0A secondary current flows *only*
in the secondary.

Whereas in your diagram, *you* had both flowing in one part of *your*
coil, which would not work!!

No if's, no but's, no maybe's!!

Daniel

The current flowing in my load circuit has to come from somewhere.
Redraw my circuit, with the same transformer, showing where you think
current flows.

In my diagram of a couple of days ago, I have tried to use your
transformer, with 240V applied across the primary and 120V developed
across the secondary in a manner that *DOES* work, but *you* will not
see it.

You cannot see the difference!!

Daniel

Hey guys, why not check out the wiki for variacs ?
Click to expand...
From what I see of your posts you are straying from reality!
 
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:40:39 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com <dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:01:02 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:11:19 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:










Yeap, so it should!! My mistake!!

Daniel

I still don't know what you're saying is wrong with my diagram
http://petersphotos.com/temp/transformer.jpg

What!! Apart from me saying *it will not work!!*

In my diagram, the 1.5A primary current flows &only* in the primary
winding of the transformer and the 3.0A secondary current flows *only*
in the secondary.

Whereas in your diagram, *you* had both flowing in one part of *your*
coil, which would not work!!

No if's, no but's, no maybe's!!

Daniel

The current flowing in my load circuit has to come from somewhere.
Redraw my circuit, with the same transformer, showing where you think
current flows.

In my diagram of a couple of days ago, I have tried to use your
transformer, with 240V applied across the primary and 120V developed
across the secondary in a manner that *DOES* work, but *you* will not
see it.

You cannot see the difference!!
Click to expand...
You're not showing a Variac in your diagram. The Variac has the source voltage across the ENTIRE coil. The load is connected across HALF the coil.

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On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:51:33 -0000, Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote:

On 12/01/2013 9:40 PM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:01:02 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:11:19 -0000, Daniel47@teranews.com
dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:











I still don't know what you're saying is wrong with my diagram
http://petersphotos.com/temp/transformer.jpg

What!! Apart from me saying *it will not work!!*

In my diagram, the 1.5A primary current flows &only* in the primary
winding of the transformer and the 3.0A secondary current flows *only*
in the secondary.

Whereas in your diagram, *you* had both flowing in one part of *your*
coil, which would not work!!

No if's, no but's, no maybe's!!

Daniel

The current flowing in my load circuit has to come from somewhere.
Redraw my circuit, with the same transformer, showing where you think
current flows.

In my diagram of a couple of days ago, I have tried to use your
transformer, with 240V applied across the primary and 120V developed
across the secondary in a manner that *DOES* work, but *you* will not
see it.

You cannot see the difference!!

Daniel

Hey guys, why not check out the wiki for variacs ?
From what I see of your posts you are straying from reality!
Click to expand...
Where is it located?

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