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Commander Kinsey
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On Mon, 29 May 2023 15:22:25 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
Americans are really soft.
Americans are really soft.
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Commander Kinsey
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On Mon, 29 May 2023 20:31:53 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> wrote:
Who cares? They\'re only Irish, not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
Am 29.05.23 um 20:45 schrieb rbowman:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 07:22:25 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
I suspect that a minority of europeans could often afford cheese 500
years ago. Malnutrition was usual.
500 years ago was prior to the Industrial Revolution when people were
herded off the land and into the dark satanic mills.
.. and did those feet in ancient times...
Most would have had
at least one cow, sheep, or goat. You can only use so much milk so cheese
Same here in the German Saar county where I live. Industry was
iron & coal and the workers families used to have at least a
goat. They were \"Bergmann-Bauern\", miner-farmers to survive.
was made to store the surplus, or if you really had a surplus, to feed the
hogs.
It took industrialization to create widespread malnutrition, or sometimes
outside forces. Ireland was a net exporter of food during the Famine.
Yes, enforced by British military. That makes friends for a
hundred years. Not.
Who cares? They\'re only Irish, not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
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Commander Kinsey
Guest
On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:52:47 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
Isn\'t there another word for female other than cow? A cow is a different species.
On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
When I was in Nepals > 30 years ago (OMG!) for the first time,
I stumbled across a dairy in the Everest region (way from Lukla->Jiri)
where they made hard cheese from yacc milk. It tasted like Appenzeller,
probably because it was a foreign aid project from Switzerland. Making
hard cheese is easy and safe,
and it was even with bronze time resources. Just know-how.
A farm down the road started with sheep but switched to goats and one
lonely looking yak. They have a sign advertising goat milk. I\'ve been
meaning to stop to get some and also find out why they switched from sheep
and if they milk the yak (assuming it\'s a cow).
Isn\'t there another word for female other than cow? A cow is a different species.
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Anthony William Sloman
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On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 7:03:54â¯PM UTC+10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
<snip>
The problem with that little homily is that genuine intellectuals didn\'t like Marxism. They liked his economics, which is indeed truth-directed, but the role of the communist party in a one party state is authoritarian and there \'s no good reason to give them that kind of power. Taking it away from even less representative capitalists is easily justified, but letting the communist party hang onto it isn\'t.
The international socialist movement kicked out Karl Marx and his followers on the basis that his ideas about the \"leading role of the Party\' would lead to tyranny as indeed they did. Democratic socialism has done rather better.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On 29/07/2023 09:41, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-07-28, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 13:33:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
<snip>
âIt is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of
intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on
intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is
futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into,
we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every
criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a
power-directed system of thought.â
Sir Roger Scruton
The problem with that little homily is that genuine intellectuals didn\'t like Marxism. They liked his economics, which is indeed truth-directed, but the role of the communist party in a one party state is authoritarian and there \'s no good reason to give them that kind of power. Taking it away from even less representative capitalists is easily justified, but letting the communist party hang onto it isn\'t.
The international socialist movement kicked out Karl Marx and his followers on the basis that his ideas about the \"leading role of the Party\' would lead to tyranny as indeed they did. Democratic socialism has done rather better.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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rbowman
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:40:50 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://researchmaniacs.com/Animals/Female/What-is-a-female-Yak-
called.html
Same genus, Bos. If you\'re Tibetan a yak is male and a nak is female.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_of_One_Thousand_Buddhas
I\'ll ask the next time I get up that way. There are usually some Tibetans
hanging around although I don\'t recall seeing any yaks.
Isn\'t there another word for female other than cow? A cow is a
different species.
https://researchmaniacs.com/Animals/Female/What-is-a-female-Yak-
called.html
Same genus, Bos. If you\'re Tibetan a yak is male and a nak is female.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_of_One_Thousand_Buddhas
I\'ll ask the next time I get up that way. There are usually some Tibetans
hanging around although I don\'t recall seeing any yaks.
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rbowman
Guest
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:36:30 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
The current resident in the reefer is
https://kingdomcheddar.com/
Off white, and tasty. It\'s almost as good as Kerrygold Dubliner.
n the UK:
White-yellow cheddar (aka tasteless):
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/305977270 Yellow-orange
cheddar (aka tasty):
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/310161536
The current resident in the reefer is
https://kingdomcheddar.com/
Off white, and tasty. It\'s almost as good as Kerrygold Dubliner.
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rbowman
Guest
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:43:51 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Wyoming and Idaho are very nice places too. That\'s already happening to
some extent. The people leaving CA typically aren\'t going to the Peoples
Republics of OR or WA. With a fairly mobile population people tend to self
select. It\'s nothing new. White flight from decaying cities started in the
\'50s. Then it was flight to the \'burbs. Now it\'s flight to another state.
Personally I left NH, about as red as it gets back east, in \'88 when I saw
the times were changing. I didn\'t know where I was going and I didn\'t have
work lined up but I figured I would know home when I saw it.
I grew up in upstate NY but bailed from there around \'71. Upstate wishes
NYC and environs would drift out to sea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsten_Gillibrand
There\'s an upstate girl made good.
\"Many saw Gillibrand as moderate or conservative. Michael Brendan
Dougherty in The American Conservative wrote after her victory,
\"Gillibrand won her upstate New York district by running to the right: she
campaigned against amnesty for illegal immigrants, promised to restore
fiscal responsibility to Washington, and pledged to protect gun rights.\"[
\"A member of the Democratic Party\'s relatively conservative Blue Dog
faction while in the House, Gillibrand has moved her political positions
and ideology toward a liberal, progressive position since her appointment
to the Senate\"
She was appointed to Clinton\'s seat when clinton became Secretary of State
and immediately became Hillary Jr. Just another windsock politician.
Ok. Where do we draw the line? I\'d like to stay in Blue America, but
the people living in red areas of Michigan might disagree.
I\'d be willing to buy a few bus tickets to Montana for some of them.
Wyoming and Idaho are very nice places too. That\'s already happening to
some extent. The people leaving CA typically aren\'t going to the Peoples
Republics of OR or WA. With a fairly mobile population people tend to self
select. It\'s nothing new. White flight from decaying cities started in the
\'50s. Then it was flight to the \'burbs. Now it\'s flight to another state.
Personally I left NH, about as red as it gets back east, in \'88 when I saw
the times were changing. I didn\'t know where I was going and I didn\'t have
work lined up but I figured I would know home when I saw it.
I grew up in upstate NY but bailed from there around \'71. Upstate wishes
NYC and environs would drift out to sea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsten_Gillibrand
There\'s an upstate girl made good.
\"Many saw Gillibrand as moderate or conservative. Michael Brendan
Dougherty in The American Conservative wrote after her victory,
\"Gillibrand won her upstate New York district by running to the right: she
campaigned against amnesty for illegal immigrants, promised to restore
fiscal responsibility to Washington, and pledged to protect gun rights.\"[
\"A member of the Democratic Party\'s relatively conservative Blue Dog
faction while in the House, Gillibrand has moved her political positions
and ideology toward a liberal, progressive position since her appointment
to the Senate\"
She was appointed to Clinton\'s seat when clinton became Secretary of State
and immediately became Hillary Jr. Just another windsock politician.
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rbowman
Guest
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:41:54 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Yeah, there is that...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny#Legacy_and_consequences
God said America should bring capitalism, liberal democracy, and Starbucks
to the benighted countries of the world.
On 2023-07-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 13:33:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
The US doesn\'t have an empire. It does have a huge cultural influence,
but nobody forces anyone, at gunpoint, to eat fried chicken or wear
jeans and cowboy hats.
The guns are implied, often in the form of economic sanctions.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-lgbt-idUSKBN2A42KF
Overlooking little expansions like Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Guam
Or the big expansion that was Manifest Destiny.
Yeah, there is that...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny#Legacy_and_consequences
God said America should bring capitalism, liberal democracy, and Starbucks
to the benighted countries of the world.
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rbowman
Guest
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 10:03:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
https://www.civilbeat.org/2019/08/has-statehood-actually-worked-out-for-
hawaii/
Not everyone is a happy camper. It did do wonders for the economy, chiefly
tourism, when planes started servicing the islands. It\'s one of the more
isolated places in the world without air transit. With restrictions
removed and an improving economy Japan also boosted tourism.
Would it have done as well as a sovereign nation? I don\'t know.
Historically the islands would have been scooped up by someone if not the
US, but by the time of statehood Britain, Spain, Russia and so forth
weren\'t grabbing pieces of real estate anymore.
Puerto Rico is another problem. The government is completely dysfunctional
so it\'s hard to imagine it succeeding on its own. otoh, it would be stupid
to make it a state and inherit all its baggage.
There are far worse things than to be e.g. an overseas colony of a major
power.
I would be happy that Hawaii was a US state.
https://www.civilbeat.org/2019/08/has-statehood-actually-worked-out-for-
hawaii/
Not everyone is a happy camper. It did do wonders for the economy, chiefly
tourism, when planes started servicing the islands. It\'s one of the more
isolated places in the world without air transit. With restrictions
removed and an improving economy Japan also boosted tourism.
Would it have done as well as a sovereign nation? I don\'t know.
Historically the islands would have been scooped up by someone if not the
US, but by the time of statehood Britain, Spain, Russia and so forth
weren\'t grabbing pieces of real estate anymore.
Puerto Rico is another problem. The government is completely dysfunctional
so it\'s hard to imagine it succeeding on its own. otoh, it would be stupid
to make it a state and inherit all its baggage.
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rbowman
Guest
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 07:40:44 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.allrecipes.com/article/springform-pan/
The side band is a spring.
Why are they called springform when there\'s no springs involved? If
there were, you\'d end up with pie on the ceiling.
https://www.allrecipes.com/article/springform-pan/
The side band is a spring.
C
charles
Guest
In article <kil50bFamqgU5@mid.individual.net>,
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
If only he\'d told Starbucks how to make decent coffee
--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
\"I\'d rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom\" Thomas Carlyle
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:41:54 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-07-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 13:33:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
The US doesn\'t have an empire. It does have a huge cultural influence,
but nobody forces anyone, at gunpoint, to eat fried chicken or wear
jeans and cowboy hats.
The guns are implied, often in the form of economic sanctions.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-lgbt-idUSKBN2A42KF
Overlooking little expansions like Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Guam
Or the big expansion that was Manifest Destiny.
Yeah, there is that...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny#Legacy_and_consequences
God said America should bring capitalism, liberal democracy, and
Starbucks to the benighted countries of the world.
If only he\'d told Starbucks how to make decent coffee
--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
\"I\'d rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom\" Thomas Carlyle
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Peeler
Guest
On 29 Jul 2023 18:35:19 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> Wyoming and Idaho are very nice places too.
Great info again, you hilarious abysmally stupid senile blabbermouth! LOL
--
More of the resident senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
\"My family and I traveled cross country in \'52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it\'s difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn\'t been destroyed.\"
MID: <kae9ivF7suU1@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> Wyoming and Idaho are very nice places too.
Great info again, you hilarious abysmally stupid senile blabbermouth! LOL
--
More of the resident senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
\"My family and I traveled cross country in \'52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it\'s difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn\'t been destroyed.\"
MID: <kae9ivF7suU1@mid.individual.net>
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Peeler
Guest
On 29 Jul 2023 19:25:42 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
But YOU are happy senile obnoxious gossip! That\'s for sure! LOL
--
Self-admiring lowbrowwoman telling everyone yet another \"thrilling\" story
about her great life:
\"In a role reversal my mother taught her father to drive. She was in the
back seat when he took his first test, trying a little telepathy: \"release
the handbrake. release the handbrake\'. He didn\'t, stalled the engine and
failed. The next time went better.\"
MID: <kafp0uF6vi1U5@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
https://www.civilbeat.org/2019/08/has-statehood-actually-worked-out-for-
hawaii/
Not everyone is a happy camper.
But YOU are happy senile obnoxious gossip! That\'s for sure! LOL
--
Self-admiring lowbrowwoman telling everyone yet another \"thrilling\" story
about her great life:
\"In a role reversal my mother taught her father to drive. She was in the
back seat when he took his first test, trying a little telepathy: \"release
the handbrake. release the handbrake\'. He didn\'t, stalled the engine and
failed. The next time went better.\"
MID: <kafp0uF6vi1U5@mid.individual.net>
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Peeler
Guest
On 29 Jul 2023 18:44:27 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
He didn\'t say, \"Let there be a nation of bragging bigmouths\"? Hearing you
and Stumpie one might almost believe that. <BG>
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
\"That [referring to the term \"consenting adults\"] is just an outdated legal
construct.
MID: <Og0VE.1298131$5O3.636319@usenetxs.com>
No, it isn\'t, you filthy old pedo swine!
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
Yeah, there is that...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny#Legacy_and_consequences
God said America should bring capitalism, liberal democracy, and Starbucks
to the benighted countries of the world.
He didn\'t say, \"Let there be a nation of bragging bigmouths\"? Hearing you
and Stumpie one might almost believe that. <BG>
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
\"That [referring to the term \"consenting adults\"] is just an outdated legal
construct.
MID: <Og0VE.1298131$5O3.636319@usenetxs.com>
No, it isn\'t, you filthy old pedo swine!
P
Peeler
Guest
On 29 Jul 2023 19:33:50 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
TWO equally pathological and self-admiring shitheads having a
\"conversation\"! LMAO
--
More of the pathological senile gossip\'s sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
\"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I\'ve never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I\'ve had chicken that tasted like fish. I don\'t think I
want to know what they were feeding it.\"
MID: <k44t5lFl1k3U4@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
Why are they called springform when there\'s no springs involved? If
there were, you\'d end up with pie on the ceiling.
https://www.allrecipes.com/article/springform-pan/
The side band is a spring.
TWO equally pathological and self-admiring shitheads having a
\"conversation\"! LMAO
--
More of the pathological senile gossip\'s sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
\"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I\'ve never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I\'ve had chicken that tasted like fish. I don\'t think I
want to know what they were feeding it.\"
MID: <k44t5lFl1k3U4@mid.individual.net>
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Peeler
Guest
On 29 Jul 2023 18:07:19 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
Is it about cheese again, you idiotic self-admiring senile blabbermouth?
<BG>
--
Another one of the resident senile bigmouth\'s idiotic \"cool\" lines:
\"If you\'re an ax murderer don\'t leave souvenir photos on your phone.\"
\"MID: <k7ssc7F8mt9U3@mid.individual.net>\"
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
The current resident in the reefer is
https://kingdomcheddar.com/
Off white, and tasty. It\'s almost as good as Kerrygold Dubliner.
Is it about cheese again, you idiotic self-admiring senile blabbermouth?
<BG>
--
Another one of the resident senile bigmouth\'s idiotic \"cool\" lines:
\"If you\'re an ax murderer don\'t leave souvenir photos on your phone.\"
\"MID: <k7ssc7F8mt9U3@mid.individual.net>\"
P
Peeler
Guest
On 29 Jul 2023 18:00:42 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
Same two idiotically blathering and bullshitting abnormal shiteads!
--
More of the resident bigmouth\'s usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I\'m not saying my father and uncle wouldn\'t have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn\'t hurt. Stanton\'s was the
hometown brewery but it closed in \'50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.
My preference was Rheingold on tap\"
MID: <k9mnmmF9emhU1@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
https://researchmaniacs.com/Animals/Female/What-is-a-female-Yak-
called.html
Same genus, Bos. If you\'re Tibetan a yak is male and a nak is female.
Same two idiotically blathering and bullshitting abnormal shiteads!
--
More of the resident bigmouth\'s usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I\'m not saying my father and uncle wouldn\'t have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn\'t hurt. Stanton\'s was the
hometown brewery but it closed in \'50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.
My preference was Rheingold on tap\"
MID: <k9mnmmF9emhU1@mid.individual.net>
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Tue, 30 May 2023 17:27:19 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
\"Nothing succeeds like excess\" or, in the words of Meat Loaf,
\"Anything worth doing is worth over-doing.\"
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2023-05-30, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:48:40 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2023-05-30, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On 29 May 2023 04:00:37 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 19:49:42 +0100, Max Demian wrote:
Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring?
You betcha...
https://sites.google.com/site/gotitsortd/kraft-mac-cheese-ingredients
\"Kraft Macaroni and Cheese cheese sauce mix also includes FD&C yellow dyes
number 5 and 6 for the characteristic bright yellow color of the cheese
sauce.\"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cheese
There is a feeling among many Americans that cheese is a yellow color
rarely seen in nature.
Cite?
You don\'t really need a cite. The fact that Kraft sells millions
of tons of orange cheese tells the story.
https://www.tastingtable.com/1031396/how-the-color-of-cheddar-may-be-able-to-tell-you-where-it-was-made/
Oh, hey. In 2020 (or so) Kraft sold its natural cheese to Lactalis
Group, but kept Philadelphia cream cheese, Kraft singles, Velveeta,
and the unfortunately named Cheez Whiz. Looks like the Kraft sharp
cheddar that I buy is actually French.
French cheddar?
It\'s still made in a factory Wisconsin.
The Philly cream cheese is good for all sorts of things, like making
strawberry dip
Strawberries are fine on their own. No dip required.
\"Nothing succeeds like excess\" or, in the words of Meat Loaf,
\"Anything worth doing is worth over-doing.\"
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Sat, 29 Jul 23 19:45:03 UTC, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
wrote:
There\'s a book about that. When a few guys split out of Peets and set
up Starbucks, the first thing they did was switch to cheap robusta
coffee beans.
wrote:
In article <kil50bFamqgU5@mid.individual.net>,
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:41:54 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-07-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 13:33:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
The US doesn\'t have an empire. It does have a huge cultural influence,
but nobody forces anyone, at gunpoint, to eat fried chicken or wear
jeans and cowboy hats.
The guns are implied, often in the form of economic sanctions.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-lgbt-idUSKBN2A42KF
Overlooking little expansions like Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Guam
Or the big expansion that was Manifest Destiny.
Yeah, there is that...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny#Legacy_and_consequences
God said America should bring capitalism, liberal democracy, and
Starbucks to the benighted countries of the world.
If only he\'d told Starbucks how to make decent coffee
There\'s a book about that. When a few guys split out of Peets and set
up Starbucks, the first thing they did was switch to cheap robusta
coffee beans.
R
rbowman
Guest
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 14:56:20 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
More likely that was when Baldwin sold Starbucks to Schultz to concentrate
on the Peets brand. I\'ve only been to Starbucks once when my brother
shuffled through his deck of gift cards and decided to use the Starbucks
one. I lived.
I\'m not interested in the milkshakes that seem to be Starbuck\'s real draw
and there are several local shops and roasters that I prefer to support.
If I get really ambitious I\'ve got some green beans from Sweet Maria\'s.
There\'s a book about that. When a few guys split out of Peets and set up
Starbucks, the first thing they did was switch to cheap robusta coffee
beans.
More likely that was when Baldwin sold Starbucks to Schultz to concentrate
on the Peets brand. I\'ve only been to Starbucks once when my brother
shuffled through his deck of gift cards and decided to use the Starbucks
one. I lived.
I\'m not interested in the milkshakes that seem to be Starbuck\'s real draw
and there are several local shops and roasters that I prefer to support.
If I get really ambitious I\'ve got some green beans from Sweet Maria\'s.