USDA Suppressing Research- Rice Heading For Collapse

[whit3rd]

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 2:34:04 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:43:06 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 12:28:21 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

[on unsustainable agriculture]
The likely scenario is that the population will stabilize and be in a
far better state than it is now.

Birth rates drop,
So, you're countering the Trump promise to reverse Roe vs. Wade?

resources rise.
So, we conserved those?

...a consequence of lower infant
mortality and wealth and education, especially female education.

So, universalprenatal health care is one of your bits of 'progress'?
And education presumably doesn't encompass Trump Academy?

What kind of 'better state' do you envision, and why is it better?

Less kids dying, less disease and suffering, better nutrition,
education and literacy, electricity and clean water,

Gonna reinstate the EPA watching out for air, soil, and water contaminants?

floors and roofs
and heaters and stoves, books, phones, stuff like that. The stuff we
have.

We have many benefits of civilization, but mainly it's not 'stuff'.
Primitives have roofs, but NOT civilization.
We have roofs, but now lack open international trade...

> I'm doing my small part to help. You don't approve?

So, you've got evidence that'll impeach Trump? Why would I not approve, if
the evidence isn't faked?

Alas, like Trump, you're a bit of... a facile liar.

 

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 18:52:12 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 2:34:04 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:43:06 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 12:28:21 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

[on unsustainable agriculture]
The likely scenario is that the population will stabilize and be in a
far better state than it is now.

Birth rates drop,
So, you're countering the Trump promise to reverse Roe vs. Wade?

resources rise.
So, we conserved those?

...a consequence of lower infant
mortality and wealth and education, especially female education.
So, universalprenatal health care is one of your bits of 'progress'?
And education presumably doesn't encompass Trump Academy?


What kind of 'better state' do you envision, and why is it better?

Less kids dying, less disease and suffering, better nutrition,
education and literacy, electricity and clean water,

Gonna reinstate the EPA watching out for air, soil, and water contaminants?

I was thinking more about millions of people dying from cholera and
parasites in their drinking water, not parts-per-trillion of
insecticides making it through their Brita filters or into their
Pellegrino.

floors and roofs
and heaters and stoves, books, phones, stuff like that. The stuff we
have.

We have many benefits of civilization, but mainly it's not 'stuff'.
Primitives have roofs, but NOT civilization.
We have roofs, but now lack open international trade...

I'm doing my small part to help. You don't approve?

So, you've got evidence that'll impeach Trump? Why would I not approve, if
the evidence isn't faked?

Alas, like Trump, you're a bit of... a facile liar.

It sounds like you are mean and nasty and don't care about other
people. I'm not surprised.

I bet you personally do nothing to help the worst-off of humanity, the
"primitives" as you call them.





--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 1:36:31 PM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 18:52:12 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 2:34:04 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:43:06 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 12:28:21 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

I'm doing my small part to help. You don't approve?

So, you've got evidence that'll impeach Trump? Why would I not approve, if
the evidence isn't faked?

Alas, like Trump, you're a bit of... a facile liar.

It sounds like you are mean and nasty and don't care about other
people. I'm not surprised.

John Larkin is mean and nasty. He gets surprised when he is called on it.

He regards other people who don't give him the flattery he craves (and thinks he deserves) as mean and nasty.

If he were less of a gullible twit he might even be able to earn some the approval he so earnestly desires, but campaigning for more Trump and for more anthropogenic global warming is irritatingly wrong-headed.

I bet you personally do nothing to help the worst-off of humanity, the
"primitives" as you call them.

Why would he think that? It's a mean and nasty allegation based on entirely on a desire to post something unpleasant even if entirely unfounded.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[whit3rd]

On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 7:36:31 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 18:52:12 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 2:34:04 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:43:06 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

What kind of 'better state' do you envision, and why is it better?

Less kids dying, less disease and suffering, better nutrition,
education and literacy, electricity and clean water,

Gonna reinstate the EPA watching out for air, soil, and water contaminants?

I was thinking more about millions of people dying from cholera and
parasites in their drinking water, not parts-per-trillion of
insecticides making it through their Brita filters or into their
Pellegrino.

Malaria is a big killer, cholera not so much. Deaths per year worldwide for malaria, about half a million;
for cholera, about 0.002 million. Your concern is shallow, if you didn't know that.

Not thinking about Brita and Pellegrino? That obviously didn't last, since you're the
one to bring it up in this context. Seems a bit arrogant and dismissive to me.

 

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 21:18:48 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 7:36:31 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 18:52:12 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 2:34:04 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:43:06 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

What kind of 'better state' do you envision, and why is it better?

Less kids dying, less disease and suffering, better nutrition,
education and literacy, electricity and clean water,

Gonna reinstate the EPA watching out for air, soil, and water contaminants?

I was thinking more about millions of people dying from cholera and
parasites in their drinking water, not parts-per-trillion of
insecticides making it through their Brita filters or into their
Pellegrino.

Malaria is a big killer, cholera not so much. Deaths per year worldwide for malaria, about half a million;
for cholera, about 0.002 million. Your concern is shallow, if you didn't know that.

Wiki:

"Cholera affects an estimated 3–5 million people worldwide and causes
28,800–130,000 deaths a year"

What's shallow about caring about 5 million people getting sick?

Not thinking about Brita and Pellegrino? That obviously didn't last, since you're the
one to bring it up in this context. Seems a bit arrogant and dismissive to me.

What do you personally do to reduce the damage done to "primitives" by
malaria?

Snip the question, probably.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 2:04:54 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 21:18:48 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 7:36:31 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 18:52:12 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 2:34:04 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:43:06 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

What kind of 'better state' do you envision, and why is it better?

Less kids dying, less disease and suffering, better nutrition,
education and literacy, electricity and clean water,

Gonna reinstate the EPA watching out for air, soil, and water contaminants?

I was thinking more about millions of people dying from cholera and
parasites in their drinking water, not parts-per-trillion of
insecticides making it through their Brita filters or into their
Pellegrino.

Malaria is a big killer, cholera not so much. Deaths per year worldwide for malaria, about half a million;
for cholera, about 0.002 million. Your concern is shallow, if you didn't know that.

Wiki:

"Cholera affects an estimated 3–5 million people worldwide and causes
28,800–130,000 deaths a year"

What's shallow about caring about 5 million people getting sick?

Diverting the question to Africa and South East Asia when the Trump administration's emasculation of the EPA is endangering children near you.

You can buy a virtuous glow by sending some money to be spent in Africa. Your civic duty is to look after your neighbours, but you've been bought off by an irresponsible cut in the corporate tax rate.

Not thinking about Brita and Pellegrino? That obviously didn't last, since you're the
one to bring it up in this context. Seems a bit arrogant and dismissive to me.

What do you personally do to reduce the damage done to "primitives" by
malaria?

I hold shares in the Australian Commonwealth Serum Laboratories (now privatised and trading as CSL).

https://www.csl.com/news/2019/20191010-2020-csl-centenary-fellowships-announcement-press-release

The long term solution is an anti-malaria vaccine. GlaxoSmithKline has developed one that is now being used in clinical trials.

https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-04-2019-malaria-vaccine-pilot-launched-in-malawi

> Snip the question, probably.

Since John Larkin was not asking the question to get information but rather as a way of being rude, this would be an appropriate response.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

John Larkin is a Pollyanna and feels hurt when he's reminded that this is an unrealistic attitude.


John Larkin doesn't know much, and seems unconscious of the narrowness of his tunnel vision.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Bill,

so so many of your posts are comments ABOUT other PEOPLE.

Instead, why don't you try commenting on what they have to say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem


Mark

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 1:29:01 AM UTC+11, mako...@yahoo.com wrote:

John Larkin is a Pollyanna and feels hurt when he's reminded that this is an unrealistic attitude.


John Larkin doesn't know much, and seems unconscious of the narrowness of his tunnel vision.

Bill,

so so many of your posts are comments ABOUT other PEOPLE.

You snipped all the stuff that wasn't.

Instead, why don't you try commenting on what they have to say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Take your own advice. Read the whole message and comment on it as a whole.

Text-chopping is a much worse crime than pointing out that some discussants make the same mistake all the time.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:29:01 UTC, mako...@yahoo.com wrote:

Bill,

so so many of your posts are comments ABOUT other PEOPLE.

Instead, why don't you try commenting on what they have to say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem


Mark

You should be able to answer your own question if you think about it. He won't ever change.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 11:10:30 PM UTC+11, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:29:01 UTC, mako...@yahoo.com wrote:

so so many of your posts are comments ABOUT other PEOPLE.

Instead, why don't you try commenting on what they have to say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

You should be able to answer your own question if you think about it. He won't ever change.

Not in any way that NT will be able to perceive.

NT didn't notice that Mark had snipped most of what I'd posted, leaving only the personal comment. That's text-chopping. Some of my posts do include comments about other people, but that's not what they are about.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[whit3rd]

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 7:29:01 AM UTC-7, mako...@yahoo.com wrote:

John Larkin is a Pollyanna and feels hurt when he's reminded that this is an unrealistic attitude.


John Larkin doesn't know much, and seems unconscious of the narrowness of his tunnel vision.

so so many of your posts are comments ABOUT other PEOPLE.

Well, when the person is the problem, that's what you address.

It's certainly what YOU are addressing. Are you wrong to do so? Or, just silly?

 

On Thursday, 31 October 2019 13:00:16 UTC, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 11:10:30 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:29:01 UTC, mako...@yahoo.com wrote:

so so many of your posts are comments ABOUT other PEOPLE.

Instead, why don't you try commenting on what they have to say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

You should be able to answer your own question if you think about it. He won't ever change.

Not in any way that NT will be able to perceive.

NT didn't notice that Mark had snipped most of what I'd posted, leaving only the personal comment. That's text-chopping. Some of my posts do include comments about other people, but that's not what they are about.

he's almost managing humour tonight.


NT

 

[Rick C]

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 10:29:01 AM UTC-4, mako...@yahoo.com wrote:

John Larkin is a Pollyanna and feels hurt when he's reminded that this is an unrealistic attitude.


John Larkin doesn't know much, and seems unconscious of the narrowness of his tunnel vision.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Bill,

so so many of your posts are comments ABOUT other PEOPLE.

Instead, why don't you try commenting on what they have to say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem


Mark

Lol! In the case of Larkin, the issue is largely his ego since his messages are so shallow. These discussions have been hashed and rehashed here before many times. JL is an egoist who loves to strut his stuff. Bill is a.... well, I don't know what to call him, but he loves to argue with those he can easily appear to beat even if it is just someone who is a complete idiot ranting nonsense.

Where have you been that you have not seen this performance before?

--

Rick C.

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[Rick C]

On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 11:04:54 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 21:18:48 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 7:36:31 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 18:52:12 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 2:34:04 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:43:06 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

What kind of 'better state' do you envision, and why is it better?

Less kids dying, less disease and suffering, better nutrition,
education and literacy, electricity and clean water,

Gonna reinstate the EPA watching out for air, soil, and water contaminants?

I was thinking more about millions of people dying from cholera and
parasites in their drinking water, not parts-per-trillion of
insecticides making it through their Brita filters or into their
Pellegrino.

Malaria is a big killer, cholera not so much. Deaths per year worldwide for malaria, about half a million;
for cholera, about 0.002 million. Your concern is shallow, if you didn't know that.



Wiki:

"Cholera affects an estimated 3–5 million people worldwide and causes
28,800–130,000 deaths a year"

What's shallow about caring about 5 million people getting sick?


Not thinking about Brita and Pellegrino? That obviously didn't last, since you're the
one to bring it up in this context. Seems a bit arrogant and dismissive to me.

What do you personally do to reduce the damage done to "primitives" by
malaria?

Snip the question, probably.

That's your way of dealing with the AGW issue is to chide others for not doing enough about malaria while you do nothing?

Larkin is not in denial. He is insane.

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 12:28:21 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

[on unsustainable agriculture]
The likely scenario is that the population will stabilize and be in a
far better state than it is now.

How does an overpopulation 'stabilize' without massive loss of life?
What kind of 'better state' do you envision, and why is it better?

Rose-colored glasses are NOT suitable for adults considering long-term policies.

He thinks in terms of reaching some sustainable maximum population that the earth will support rather than the possibility that we have already achieved that maximum population and passed it.

Rose colored glasses indeed. This is an area where it really doesn't take much thought or honest look at data to understand the potential problem. None of know the exact numbers that will result in terrible things happening.. But the level of catastrophe is so huge that it only makes sense to do reasonable things to prevent it. Instead, there are so many people who scream and yell about how horrible things like renewable energy are because it might not be the most cost effective at this time or it can't do the job 100% without additional facilities or any of a dozen other not so well thought out excuses.

It just seems to make sense to stop denying there will be a problem and work a little bit to head it off.

Here is an interesting bit I was not aware of. Currently the largest non-carbon contributor to the warming effect is refrigerants. CFCs and HCFCs have been banned. HFCs have not. While HFCs do not attack the ozone layer, the initial problem we sought to repair, they are thousands of times more potent as greenhouse gasses than CO2. One of the replacement refrigerants they are considering is CO2. lol!!!

--

Rick C.

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[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, November 1, 2019 at 5:47:24 AM UTC+11, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, 31 October 2019 13:00:16 UTC, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 11:10:30 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:29:01 UTC, mako...@yahoo.com wrote:

so so many of your posts are comments ABOUT other PEOPLE.

Instead, why don't you try commenting on what they have to say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

You should be able to answer your own question if you think about it. He won't ever change.

Not in any way that NT will be able to perceive.

NT didn't notice that Mark had snipped most of what I'd posted, leaving only the personal comment. That's text-chopping. Some of my posts do include comments about other people, but that's not what they are about.

he's almost managing humour tonight.

People do bait NT for comic effect. He will always rise to the bait.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney