US gun violence kills 123 per day By BELINDA ROBINSON in New York | China Daily Global | Updated: 2023-09-15 08:06 Mark Braden (center), who...

[sci.electronics.design]

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 9:22:36 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:56:57 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:36:00 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:


I wouldn\'t bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don\'t have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_rifle
The long rifle wasn\'t a local militia weapon. It was specialised and expensive tool used by specialist marksmen,

I don\'t have definite numbers, but the long rifle was almost certainly standard issue for the Pennsylvania militias.

In many other places, the militias were so ad hoc it was a BYOG ( bring your own gun ) operation. The more upscale hunters from the frontier states like Kentucky and Tennessee possessed the long rifle. They depended on the rifle to hunt game and avoid starvation, which is always a great motivator. The long rifle was not a \'war innovation\', it was a hunting innovation.

Daniel Morgan put together a company of riflemen using these weapons and deployed to the battle of Saratoga. There was an unwritten rule of warfare at the time that prohibited lowly non-commissioned officers from killing officers of the opposing force. Morgan was obsessed with hatred for the officer corps of the British army, and ordered his men to prioritize targeting and killing them, which they did with great proficiency, as in 500 meter shots made from tall trees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27s_Riflemen

Seeing the ghastly wounds made by these large bore projectiles, the Hessians broke and ran. In a few instances their British officer handlers tried to stop them but were shot dead by the Hessians. It was quite a melee.
There nothing quite like superior weapons used by people who know how to use them. Local militia typically didn\'t spend that kind on money on their weapons, nor spend the time required to get thoroughly proficient with them.. Neither did the bulk of professional army units. The needle rifle didn\'t show up for another sixty years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun

Prior to mid-century, the maximum effective range of standard military rifles was 100 meter. The Minie ball projectile fired from rifled weapon increased it to 300 meter. That\'s a super good advantage over an opposing force that doesn\'t have them.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 11:32:45 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 9:22:36 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:56:57 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:36:00 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:


I wouldn\'t bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don\'t have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_rifle
The long rifle wasn\'t a local militia weapon. It was specialised and expensive tool used by specialist marksmen,
I don\'t have definite numbers, but the long rifle was almost certainly standard issue for the Pennsylvania militias.

In many other places, the militias were so ad hoc it was a BYOG ( bring your own gun ) operation.

That\'s the whole point about militias of the period. You had to have your own gun to get in. Back to the ancient Greeks, richer people who could afford proper arms and armour boosted their standing in the community by spending some of their money on enhancing their capacity to look as if they were capable of defending it.

> The more upscale hunters from the frontier states like Kentucky and Tennessee possessed the long rifle. They depended on the rifle to hunt game and avoid starvation, which is always a great motivator. The long rifle was not a \'war innovation\', it was a hunting innovation.

But hunting was more of a hobby than an avocations. People made money out fur trapping, but they used cheap snares rather than expensive weapons.

Daniel Morgan put together a company of riflemen using these weapons and deployed to the battle of Saratoga. There was an unwritten rule of warfare at the time that prohibited lowly non-commissioned officers from killing officers of the opposing force. Morgan was obsessed with hatred for the officer corps of the British army, and ordered his men to prioritize targeting and killing them, which they did with great proficiency, as in 500 meter shots made from tall trees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27s_Riflemen

Seeing the ghastly wounds made by these large bore projectiles, the Hessians broke and ran. In a few instances their British officer handlers tried to stop them but were shot dead by the Hessians. It was quite a melee.

There nothing quite like superior weapons used by people who know how to use them. Local militia typically didn\'t spend that kind on money on their weapons, nor spend the time required to get thoroughly proficient with them. Neither did the bulk of professional army units. The needle rifle didn\'t show up for another sixty years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun

Prior to mid-century, the maximum effective range of standard military rifles was 100 meter. The Minie ball projectile fired from rifled weapon increased it to 300 meter. That\'s a super good advantage over an opposing force that doesn\'t have them.

But rate of fire is what matters. Snipers don\'t win battles, and before good spectacles were accessible to infantry men, 300 metres was probably father away than most of them could distinguish a man from a shrub.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 11:32:45 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 9:22:36 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:56:57 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:36:00 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:


I wouldn\'t bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don\'t have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_rifle
The long rifle wasn\'t a local militia weapon. It was specialised and expensive tool used by specialist marksmen,
I don\'t have definite numbers, but the long rifle was almost certainly standard issue for the Pennsylvania militias.

In many other places, the militias were so ad hoc it was a BYOG ( bring your own gun ) operation.
That\'s the whole point about militias of the period. You had to have your own gun to get in. Back to the ancient Greeks, richer people who could afford proper arms and armour boosted their standing in the community by spending some of their money on enhancing their capacity to look as if they were capable of defending it.

In the feudal period they also brought along a small army to accompany them..

The more upscale hunters from the frontier states like Kentucky and Tennessee possessed the long rifle. They depended on the rifle to hunt game and avoid starvation, which is always a great motivator. The long rifle was not a \'war innovation\', it was a hunting innovation.
But hunting was more of a hobby than an avocations. People made money out fur trapping, but they used cheap snares rather than expensive weapons.

Back in the day, hunting was a necessity. Grazing pastures for livestock were hard to come by in mountainous areas. The frontier was a lawless cesspool of in-humanity. It was absolutely necessary to own a gun for self-defense..

Daniel Morgan put together a company of riflemen using these weapons and deployed to the battle of Saratoga. There was an unwritten rule of warfare at the time that prohibited lowly non-commissioned officers from killing officers of the opposing force. Morgan was obsessed with hatred for the officer corps of the British army, and ordered his men to prioritize targeting and killing them, which they did with great proficiency, as in 500 meter shots made from tall trees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27s_Riflemen

Seeing the ghastly wounds made by these large bore projectiles, the Hessians broke and ran. In a few instances their British officer handlers tried to stop them but were shot dead by the Hessians. It was quite a melee..

There nothing quite like superior weapons used by people who know how to use them. Local militia typically didn\'t spend that kind on money on their weapons, nor spend the time required to get thoroughly proficient with them. Neither did the bulk of professional army units. The needle rifle didn\'t show up for another sixty years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun

Prior to mid-century, the maximum effective range of standard military rifles was 100 meter. The Minie ball projectile fired from rifled weapon increased it to 300 meter. That\'s a super good advantage over an opposing force that doesn\'t have them.
But rate of fire is what matters. Snipers don\'t win battles, and before good spectacles were accessible to infantry men, 300 metres was probably father away than most of them could distinguish a man from a shrub.

The British weren\'t hiding behind shrubs.

That depends. The British organized themselves into ranks that would alternately fire en masse upon the enemy positions. The American adversaries were more into hit and run, taking dispersed positions quickly abandoned. Planning their avenue of escape was as important as planning the attack itself.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:19 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:07:31 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:

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I get irritated when people falsely claim I\'ve made a mistake. I\'m much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn\'t happen often. Mike Terrell can\'t tell the difference.

It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.

I don\'t. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.

Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???
You really should. The difference between using nuclear explosives - Project Plowshare style - to make a mine inaccessible to an invader, and \"nuking your won country\" is pretty dramatic.

The US set of some 35 nuclear explosions in it\'s own country while exploring the idea, and nobody has been prolsecuted for nuking your own country.\\

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare

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Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this.

This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN\'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!
The occasional psychopath will kill another human, and a few of them get lucky and kill several. Giving everybody guns so that they can kill anybody who looks like a psychopath to them isn\'t a way of minimising the number killed - far from it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html

The Daily Mail exists to give right-wing lunatic like you your daily fix of indignation. It doesn\'t have anything useful to say, and never did.

WTF are you saying, Bozo, that this crime DIDN\'T occur?

The appropriate response is to keep guns and cars out of the hands of dangerous psychopath - the US does have driving licenses but baulks at gun licenses.

This crime shows that you DON\'T need a gun to kill someone - a car or, better yet, a truck will do nicely. Knives are also useful for up close and personal murders.

Picking dangerous psychopaths isn\'t easy - you are probably an obvious example, but less stupid people can hide it better. Fantasies about using your concealed-carry gun to kill dangerous criminals are a bit of a give-away

LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have. Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths??? You, OTOH, have advocated clear psychopathic tendencies, like NUKING and FIREBOMBING YOUR OWN COUNTRY!!!!!

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Bozo Bill Slowman, Sydney

Bozo\'s Sewage Sweeper

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 7:47:25 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 11:32:45 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 9:22:36 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:56:57 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:36:00 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:


I wouldn\'t bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don\'t have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_rifle

The long rifle wasn\'t a local militia weapon. It was specialised and expensive tool used by specialist marksmen,
I don\'t have definite numbers, but the long rifle was almost certainly standard issue for the Pennsylvania militias.

In many other places, the militias were so ad hoc it was a BYOG ( bring your own gun ) operation.

That\'s the whole point about militias of the period. You had to have your own gun to get in. Back to the ancient Greeks, richer people who could afford proper arms and armour boosted their standing in the community by spending some of their money on enhancing their capacity to look as if they were capable of defending it.

In the feudal period they also brought along a small army to accompany them.

That was the nobility, who were a professional military caste. The point about the militia was that they did other stuff for a living, but could be organised into a sort of miliatyr unit at short notice.

The more upscale hunters from the frontier states like Kentucky and Tennessee possessed the long rifle. They depended on the rifle to hunt game and avoid starvation, which is always a great motivator. The long rifle was not a \'war innovation\', it was a hunting innovation.

But hunting was more of a hobby than an avocations. People made money out fur trapping, but they used cheap snares rather than expensive weapons.

Back in the day, hunting was a necessity. Grazing pastures for livestock were hard to come by in mountainous areas. The frontier was a lawless cesspool of in-humanity. It was absolutely necessary to own a gun for self-defense.

Ask the National Rifle Association. they\'ll tell you their preferred myth.

Daniel Morgan put together a company of riflemen using these weapons and deployed to the battle of Saratoga. There was an unwritten rule of warfare at the time that prohibited lowly non-commissioned officers from killing officers of the opposing force. Morgan was obsessed with hatred for the officer corps of the British army, and ordered his men to prioritize targeting and killing them, which they did with great proficiency, as in 500 meter shots made from tall trees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27s_Riflemen

Seeing the ghastly wounds made by these large bore projectiles, the Hessians broke and ran. In a few instances their British officer handlers tried to stop them but were shot dead by the Hessians. It was quite a melee.

There nothing quite like superior weapons used by people who know how to use them. Local militia typically didn\'t spend that kind on money on their weapons, nor spend the time required to get thoroughly proficient with them. Neither did the bulk of professional army units. The needle rifle didn\'t show up for another sixty years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun

Prior to mid-century, the maximum effective range of standard military rifles was 100 meter. The Minie ball projectile fired from rifled weapon increased it to 300 meter. That\'s a super good advantage over an opposing force that doesn\'t have them.

But rate of fire is what matters. Snipers don\'t win battles, and before good spectacles were accessible to infantry men, 300 metres was probably father away than most of them could distinguish a man from a shrub.

The British weren\'t hiding behind shrubs.

They did deploy in ranks, and shrubs made that difficult,

> That depends. The British organized themselves into ranks that would alternately fire en masse upon the enemy positions. The American adversaries were more into hit and run, taking dispersed positions quickly abandoned. Planning their avenue of escape was as important as planning the attack itself..

That\'s guerilla warfare, that uses irregular forces, classically fast moving light infantry (which is a lot cheap[er than cavalary, if not as fast moving).

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 12:28:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:19 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:07:31 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:

snip
I get irritated when people falsely claim I\'ve made a mistake. I\'m much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn\'t happen often. Mike Terrell can\'t tell the difference.

It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.

I don\'t. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.

Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???

You really should. The difference between using nuclear explosives - Project Plowshare style - to make a mine inaccessible to an invader, and \"nuking your won country\" is pretty dramatic.

The US set of some 35 nuclear explosions in it\'s own country while exploring the idea, and nobody has been prolsecuted for nuking your own country..\\

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare

snip
Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this.

This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN\'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!

The occasional psychopath will kill another human, and a few of them get lucky and kill several. Giving everybody guns so that they can kill anybody who looks like a psychopath to them isn\'t a way of minimising the number killed - far from it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html

The Daily Mail exists to give right-wing lunatic like you your daily fix of indignation. It doesn\'t have anything useful to say, and never did.

WTF are you saying, Bozo, that this crime DIDN\'T occur?

The criminal act was real enough. but another poster has pointed out that it was joy-riding kids being less skilled drivers than they imagined, rather than intentionally mudereous.

The appropriate response is to keep guns and cars out of the hands of dangerous psychopath - the US does have driving licenses but baulks at gun licenses.

This crime shows that you DON\'T need a gun to kill someone - a car or, better yet, a truck will do nicely. Knives are also useful for up close and personal murders.

If you are pyschopathic enough to go in for that kind of behavior. Few people are. You do seem to be one of them, and may think that it is more common than better-inforned and saner people.

Picking dangerous psychopaths isn\'t easy - you are probably an obvious example, but less stupid people can hide it better. Fantasies about using your concealed-carry gun to kill dangerous criminals are a bit of a give-away.

LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have.

You\'d be wrong. I was cleared to \"most secret\" under the Australian system, which got me into US Army ECOM at Fort Monmouth in 1970

> Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths???

The military is essentially psychopathic, a security clearance just means that they think you are one of their psychopaths. I was glad to get out of the environment. I was security vetted again a few years later when I went to work for EMI Central Research in the UK. That was on medical ultrasound, but the project had been spun off from a group that had developed a mortar locating radar for the UK army.

> You, OTOH, have advocated clear psychopathic tendencies, like NUKING and FIREBOMBING YOUR OWN COUNTRY!!!!!

Except, of course that , that I haven\'t. That\'s your bizarre misrepresentation of what I was proposing. Only a psychopathic idiot like you could have misunderstood the two very different propositions quite so thoroughly.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:28:41 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

> LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have. Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths???

So did Teixeira, and several hundred thousand other marginal lunatics who shouldn\'t be trusted with a driver\'s license.

And in the modern system, having a clearance means you were never caught committing serious crime. Period.

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Bozo\'s Sewage Sweeper

 

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[Flyguy]

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:09:52 AM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:28:41 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have. Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths???
So did Teixeira, and several hundred thousand other marginal lunatics who shouldn\'t be trusted with a driver\'s license.

And in the modern system, having a clearance means you were never caught committing serious crime. Period.

Translation: I\'ve got NOTHING on you, so I will MAKE SHIT UP!

--
Bozo Bill Slowman, Sydney

Bozo\'s Sewage Sweeper

 

[Flyguy]

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 7:34:27 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 12:28:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:19 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:07:31 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant....@gmail.com> wrote:

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I get irritated when people falsely claim I\'ve made a mistake.. I\'m much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn\'t happen often. Mike Terrell can\'t tell the difference.

It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.

I don\'t. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.

Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???

You really should. The difference between using nuclear explosives - Project Plowshare style - to make a mine inaccessible to an invader, and \"nuking your won country\" is pretty dramatic.

The US set of some 35 nuclear explosions in it\'s own country while exploring the idea, and nobody has been prolsecuted for nuking your own country.\\

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare

snip
Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this.

This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN\'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!

The occasional psychopath will kill another human, and a few of them get lucky and kill several. Giving everybody guns so that they can kill anybody who looks like a psychopath to them isn\'t a way of minimising the number killed - far from it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html

The Daily Mail exists to give right-wing lunatic like you your daily fix of indignation. It doesn\'t have anything useful to say, and never did.

WTF are you saying, Bozo, that this crime DIDN\'T occur?
The criminal act was real enough. but another poster has pointed out that it was joy-riding kids being less skilled drivers than they imagined, rather than intentionally mudereous.

The appropriate response is to keep guns and cars out of the hands of dangerous psychopath - the US does have driving licenses but baulks at gun licenses.

This crime shows that you DON\'T need a gun to kill someone - a car or, better yet, a truck will do nicely. Knives are also useful for up close and personal murders.
If you are pyschopathic enough to go in for that kind of behavior. Few people are. You do seem to be one of them, and may think that it is more common than better-inforned and saner people.

Picking dangerous psychopaths isn\'t easy - you are probably an obvious example, but less stupid people can hide it better. Fantasies about using your concealed-carry gun to kill dangerous criminals are a bit of a give-away.
LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have.
You\'d be wrong. I was cleared to \"most secret\" under the Australian system, which got me into US Army ECOM at Fort Monmouth in 1970
Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths???
The military is essentially psychopathic, a security clearance just means that they think you are one of their psychopaths. I was glad to get out of the environment. I was security vetted again a few years later when I went to work for EMI Central Research in the UK. That was on medical ultrasound, but the project had been spun off from a group that had developed a mortar locating radar for the UK army.
You, OTOH, have advocated clear psychopathic tendencies, like NUKING and FIREBOMBING YOUR OWN COUNTRY!!!!!
Except, of course that , that I haven\'t. That\'s your bizarre misrepresentation of what I was proposing. Only a psychopathic idiot like you could have misunderstood the two very different propositions quite so thoroughly.

Which PROVES that YOU are the psychopath, denying what you have WRITTEN here on SED, some very recently, Bozo.

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[Anthony William Sloman]

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:27:42 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 7:34:27 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 12:28:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:19 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:07:31 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant....@gmail.com> wrote:

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I get irritated when people falsely claim I\'ve made a mistake. I\'m much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn\'t happen often. Mike Terrell can\'t tell the difference.

It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.

I don\'t. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.

Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???

You really should. The difference between using nuclear explosives - Project Plowshare style - to make a mine inaccessible to an invader, and \"nuking your won country\" is pretty dramatic.

The US set of some 35 nuclear explosions in it\'s own country while exploring the idea, and nobody has been prolsecuted for nuking your own country.\\

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare

snip
Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this.

This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN\'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!

The occasional psychopath will kill another human, and a few of them get lucky and kill several. Giving everybody guns so that they can kill anybody who looks like a psychopath to them isn\'t a way of minimising the number killed - far from it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html

The Daily Mail exists to give right-wing lunatic like you your daily fix of indignation. It doesn\'t have anything useful to say, and never did..

WTF are you saying, Bozo, that this crime DIDN\'T occur?
The criminal act was real enough. but another poster has pointed out that it was joy-riding kids being less skilled drivers than they imagined, rather than intentionally mudereous.

The appropriate response is to keep guns and cars out of the hands of dangerous psychopath - the US does have driving licenses but baulks at gun licenses.

This crime shows that you DON\'T need a gun to kill someone - a car or, better yet, a truck will do nicely. Knives are also useful for up close and personal murders.
If you are pyschopathic enough to go in for that kind of behavior. Few people are. You do seem to be one of them, and may think that it is more common than better-inforned and saner people.

Picking dangerous psychopaths isn\'t easy - you are probably an obvious example, but less stupid people can hide it better. Fantasies about using your concealed-carry gun to kill dangerous criminals are a bit of a give-away.

LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have.

You\'d be wrong. I was cleared to \"most secret\" under the Australian system, which got me into US Army ECOM at Fort Monmouth in 1970.

Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths???

The military is essentially psychopathic, a security clearance just means that they think you are one of their psychopaths. I was glad to get out of the environment. I was security vetted again a few years later when I went to work for EMI Central Research in the UK. That was on medical ultrasound, but the project had been spun off from a group that had developed a mortar locating radar for the UK army.

You, OTOH, have advocated clear psychopathic tendencies, like NUKING and FIREBOMBING YOUR OWN COUNTRY!!!!!

Except, of course that , that I haven\'t. That\'s your bizarre misrepresentation of what I was proposing. Only a psychopathic idiot like you could have misunderstood the two very different propositions quite so thoroughly.

Which PROVES that YOU are the psychopath, denying what you have WRITTEN here on SED, some very recently, Bozo.

Sewage Sweeper misuses the word \"proof\" in the same way he misuses the word \"translation\". If his demented brain can misinterpret a text string to mean something he likes, he imagines that everybody else can and will make the same mistake. If he wasn\'t in late stage senile dementia he\'d be able to realise that he was wrong from the responses he gets, but he just writes it off as a meaningless hostile reaction.

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[Anthony William Sloman]

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:25:28 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:09:52 AM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:28:41 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have. Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths???

So did Teixeira, and several hundred thousand other marginal lunatics who shouldn\'t be trusted with a driver\'s license.

And in the modern system, having a clearance means you were never caught committing serious crime. Period.

Translation: I\'ve got NOTHING on you, so I will MAKE SHIT UP!

Sewage Sweeper can\'t construct coherent arguments so he pretends to paraphrase what is being said to him as it meant what he would have liked it to mean.

He seems to think it worth claiming - as an anonymous troll - that he once held a security clearance, back before he\'d succumbed to senile dementia.

He probably thinks that the key card that let him top-up his toilet-cleaning fluids was some kind of security clearance.

--
Bil Sloman, Sydney