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US gun violence kills 123 per day
By BELINDA ROBINSON in New York | China Daily Global | Updated: 2023-09-15 08:06
Mark Braden (center), whose son Daniel was killed in the Sandy Hook school shooting, hugs another attendee during an event calling for action on preventing gun violence on Wednesday in Washington, DC. WIN MCNAMEE/AFP

Gun violence has killed 123 people per day in the United States this year with the total deaths including 1,079 teenagers and 216 children, figures from the Gun Violence Archive showed.

US President Joe Biden renewed his calls for Congress to pass more gun control in July after a spate of mass shootings. But, in contrast, conservative politicians have pushed for more gun rights nationwide.

In Kentucky, Ohio, Nebraska, Texas and Virginia this year, Republicans have advocated for removing background checks, getting rid of red-flag laws and minimizing gun-free zones that limit where people can carry a firearm around others in public.

There were 30,235 deaths involving a gun as of Sept 1. At least 13,405 were homicides, murders or unintentional shootings. The majority, at 16,830 or 69 per day, were suicides by gun, the archive found.

Some states had far more suicides by gun than others, including Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Illinois and Louisiana.

In two of these states — Texas and Georgia — Republican lawmakers have sought to have gun rights expanded while considering some gun control.

Additionally, the nation has had 498 mass shootings as of mid-September.

In Texas, there are ongoing calls to raise the minimum age for a person to purchase the assault-style weapon often used in mass shootings.

It comes over a year after an 18-year-old gunman shot 19 students and two teachers at the Robb Elementary School in May 2022.

Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott, a staunch gun rights advocate, believes raising the age would be \"unconstitutional\".

Abbott and other right-wing politicians hold dear the Second Amendment, which gives all US people the \"right… to keep and bear arms\". They also oppose any interference from the federal government, say experts.

Carl T. Bogus, professor of law at Roger Williams University in Rhode Island, told China Daily: \"We are a two-party system, and the Republican Party considers the gun lobby to be an essential component of its political coalition.\"

In at least 25 states, legal gun owners do not need a permit to carry a handgun in many public places. The number of states that have this law in place has risen since 2020, when only 16 states allowed it.

Abbott signed a law in 2021 allowing for \"permitless carry\", which enables residents of the state age 21 and older to carry handguns without a license or training.

He warned: \"Politicians from the federal level to the local level have threatened to take guns from law-abiding citizens — but we will not let that happen in Texas.\"

In April 2022, Georgia followed Texas in eliminating the need for a permit to conceal or openly carry a firearm.

Monumental moment

The move was hailed as \"a monumental moment for the Second Amendment\" by the National Rifle Association, or NRA, which remains a powerful gun rights advocacy group.

\"Half the country now rightfully recognizes the fundamental right to carry a firearm for self-defense as enshrined in our Constitution — as opposed to a government privilege that citizens must ask permission to exercise,\" Jason Ouimet, executive director of NRA\'s Institute for Legislative Action, said in a statement.

Last year, the Supreme Court, which has more conservative judges than liberal, expanded gun rights.

It also struck down a century-old New York gun law that required people to obtain a license to carry a gun outside their homes.

The US has more guns than people with approximately 390 million firearms in circulation in 2018 — compared to a population of 331.9 million people — according to the Small Arms Survey, a Swiss-based research project.
 
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Darius the Dumb has posted yet one more #veryStupidByLowIQaa article.
 
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 2:56:37 PM UTC-4, a a wrote:
US gun violence kills 123 per day
By BELINDA ROBINSON in New York | China Daily Global | Updated: 2023-09-15 08:06
Mark Braden (center), whose son Daniel was killed in the Sandy Hook school shooting, hugs another attendee during an event calling for action on preventing gun violence on Wednesday in Washington, DC. WIN MCNAMEE/AFP

Gun violence has killed 123 people per day in the United States this year with the total deaths including 1,079 teenagers and 216 children, figures from the Gun Violence Archive showed.

US President Joe Biden renewed his calls for Congress to pass more gun control in July after a spate of mass shootings. But, in contrast, conservative politicians have pushed for more gun rights nationwide.

In Kentucky, Ohio, Nebraska, Texas and Virginia this year, Republicans have advocated for removing background checks, getting rid of red-flag laws and minimizing gun-free zones that limit where people can carry a firearm around others in public.

There were 30,235 deaths involving a gun as of Sept 1. At least 13,405 were homicides, murders or unintentional shootings. The majority, at 16,830 or 69 per day, were suicides by gun, the archive found.

Some states had far more suicides by gun than others, including Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Illinois and Louisiana.

In two of these states — Texas and Georgia — Republican lawmakers have sought to have gun rights expanded while considering some gun control.

Additionally, the nation has had 498 mass shootings as of mid-September.

In Texas, there are ongoing calls to raise the minimum age for a person to purchase the assault-style weapon often used in mass shootings.

It comes over a year after an 18-year-old gunman shot 19 students and two teachers at the Robb Elementary School in May 2022.

Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott, a staunch gun rights advocate, believes raising the age would be \"unconstitutional\".

Abbott and other right-wing politicians hold dear the Second Amendment, which gives all US people the \"right… to keep and bear arms\". They also oppose any interference from the federal government, say experts.

Carl T. Bogus, professor of law at Roger Williams University in Rhode Island, told China Daily: \"We are a two-party system, and the Republican Party considers the gun lobby to be an essential component of its political coalition.\"

In at least 25 states, legal gun owners do not need a permit to carry a handgun in many public places. The number of states that have this law in place has risen since 2020, when only 16 states allowed it.

Abbott signed a law in 2021 allowing for \"permitless carry\", which enables residents of the state age 21 and older to carry handguns without a license or training.

He warned: \"Politicians from the federal level to the local level have threatened to take guns from law-abiding citizens — but we will not let that happen in Texas.\"

In April 2022, Georgia followed Texas in eliminating the need for a permit to conceal or openly carry a firearm.

Monumental moment

The move was hailed as \"a monumental moment for the Second Amendment\" by the National Rifle Association, or NRA, which remains a powerful gun rights advocacy group.

\"Half the country now rightfully recognizes the fundamental right to carry a firearm for self-defense as enshrined in our Constitution — as opposed to a government privilege that citizens must ask permission to exercise,\" Jason Ouimet, executive director of NRA\'s Institute for Legislative Action, said in a statement.

Last year, the Supreme Court, which has more conservative judges than liberal, expanded gun rights.

It also struck down a century-old New York gun law that required people to obtain a license to carry a gun outside their homes.

The US has more guns than people with approximately 390 million firearms in circulation in 2018 — compared to a population of 331.9 million people — according to the Small Arms Survey, a Swiss-based research project.

Misapplied and faked statistics.
 
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com>
wrote:

US gun violence kills 123 per day
By BELINDA ROBINSON in New York | China Daily Global | Updated: 2023-09-15 08:06
Mark Braden (center), whose son Daniel was killed in the Sandy Hook school shooting, hugs another attendee during an event calling for action on preventing gun violence on Wednesday in Washington, DC. WIN MCNAMEE/AFP

Gun violence has killed 123 people per day in the United States this year with the total deaths including 1,079 teenagers and 216 children, figures from the Gun Violence Archive showed.

US President Joe Biden renewed his calls for Congress to pass more gun control in July after a spate of mass shootings. But, in contrast, conservative politicians have pushed for more gun rights nationwide.

In Kentucky, Ohio, Nebraska, Texas and Virginia this year, Republicans have advocated for removing background checks, getting rid of red-flag laws and minimizing gun-free zones that limit where people can carry a firearm around others in public.

There were 30,235 deaths involving a gun as of Sept 1. At least 13,405 were homicides, murders or unintentional shootings. The majority, at 16,830 or 69 per day, were suicides by gun, the archive found.

Some states had far more suicides by gun than others, including Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Illinois and Louisiana.

In two of these states — Texas and Georgia — Republican lawmakers have sought to have gun rights expanded while considering some gun control.

Additionally, the nation has had 498 mass shootings as of mid-September.

In Texas, there are ongoing calls to raise the minimum age for a person to purchase the assault-style weapon often used in mass shootings.

It comes over a year after an 18-year-old gunman shot 19 students and two teachers at the Robb Elementary School in May 2022.

Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott, a staunch gun rights advocate, believes raising the age would be \"unconstitutional\".

Abbott and other right-wing politicians hold dear the Second Amendment, which gives all US people the \"right… to keep and bear arms\". They also oppose any interference from the federal government, say experts.

Carl T. Bogus, professor of law at Roger Williams University in Rhode Island, told China Daily: \"We are a two-party system, and the Republican Party considers the gun lobby to be an essential component of its political coalition.\"

In at least 25 states, legal gun owners do not need a permit to carry a handgun in many public places. The number of states that have this law in place has risen since 2020, when only 16 states allowed it.

Abbott signed a law in 2021 allowing for \"permitless carry\", which enables residents of the state age 21 and older to carry handguns without a license or training.

He warned: \"Politicians from the federal level to the local level have threatened to take guns from law-abiding citizens — but we will not let that happen in Texas.\"

In April 2022, Georgia followed Texas in eliminating the need for a permit to conceal or openly carry a firearm.

Monumental moment

The move was hailed as \"a monumental moment for the Second Amendment\" by the National Rifle Association, or NRA, which remains a powerful gun rights advocacy group.

\"Half the country now rightfully recognizes the fundamental right to carry a firearm for self-defense as enshrined in our Constitution — as opposed to a government privilege that citizens must ask permission to exercise,\" Jason Ouimet, executive director of NRA\'s Institute for Legislative Action, said in a statement.

Last year, the Supreme Court, which has more conservative judges than liberal, expanded gun rights.

It also struck down a century-old New York gun law that required people to obtain a license to carry a gun outside their homes.

The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.
 
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 14:59:47 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com
wrote:

US gun violence kills 123 per day By BELINDA ROBINSON in New York |
China Daily Global | Updated: 2023-09-15 08:06 Mark Braden (center),
whose son Daniel was killed in the Sandy Hook school shooting, hugs
another attendee during an event calling for action on preventing gun
violence on Wednesday in Washington, DC. WIN MCNAMEE/AFP

Gun violence has killed 123 people per day in the United States this
year with the total deaths including 1,079 teenagers and 216 children,
figures from the Gun Violence Archive showed.

US President Joe Biden renewed his calls for Congress to pass more gun
control in July after a spate of mass shootings. But, in contrast,
conservative politicians have pushed for more gun rights nationwide.

In Kentucky, Ohio, Nebraska, Texas and Virginia this year, Republicans
have advocated for removing background checks, getting rid of red-flag
laws and minimizing gun-free zones that limit where people can carry a
firearm around others in public.

There were 30,235 deaths involving a gun as of Sept 1. At least 13,405
were homicides, murders or unintentional shootings. The majority, at
16,830 or 69 per day, were suicides by gun, the archive found.

Some states had far more suicides by gun than others, including Texas,
California, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Illinois and Louisiana.

In two of these states — Texas and Georgia — Republican lawmakers have
sought to have gun rights expanded while considering some gun control.

Additionally, the nation has had 498 mass shootings as of mid-September.

In Texas, there are ongoing calls to raise the minimum age for a person
to purchase the assault-style weapon often used in mass shootings.

It comes over a year after an 18-year-old gunman shot 19 students and
two teachers at the Robb Elementary School in May 2022.

Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott, a staunch gun rights advocate,
believes raising the age would be \"unconstitutional\".

Abbott and other right-wing politicians hold dear the Second Amendment,
which gives all US people the \"right… to keep and bear arms\". They also
oppose any interference from the federal government, say experts.

Carl T. Bogus, professor of law at Roger Williams University in Rhode
Island, told China Daily: \"We are a two-party system, and the Republican
Party considers the gun lobby to be an essential component of its
political coalition.\"

In at least 25 states, legal gun owners do not need a permit to carry a
handgun in many public places. The number of states that have this law
in place has risen since 2020, when only 16 states allowed it.

Abbott signed a law in 2021 allowing for \"permitless carry\", which
enables residents of the state age 21 and older to carry handguns
without a license or training.

He warned: \"Politicians from the federal level to the local level have
threatened to take guns from law-abiding citizens — but we will not let
that happen in Texas.\"

In April 2022, Georgia followed Texas in eliminating the need for a
permit to conceal or openly carry a firearm.

Monumental moment

The move was hailed as \"a monumental moment for the Second Amendment\" by
the National Rifle Association, or NRA, which remains a powerful gun
rights advocacy group.

\"Half the country now rightfully recognizes the fundamental right to
carry a firearm for self-defense as enshrined in our Constitution — as
opposed to a government privilege that citizens must ask permission to
exercise,\" Jason Ouimet, executive director of NRA\'s Institute for
Legislative Action, said in a statement.

Last year, the Supreme Court, which has more conservative judges than
liberal, expanded gun rights.

It also struck down a century-old New York gun law that required people
to obtain a license to carry a gun outside their homes.


The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.

Guns don\'t kill prople.
People kill people.



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Never trust an operating system.
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On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.

https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii

puts it in the context of a well-regulated militia. It wasn\'t clearly worded. and the US gun industry has taken it as an excuse to sell many more guns that the country needs, to people who shouldn\'t have them and clearly aren\'t careful enough about using them.

It\'s a disgraceful political scandal and kills a whole lot of people prematurely, mostly by making suicide a little too easy, but there are worse mental diseases than depression and shooting lots of other people all at once is excessively popular in the US.

--
Bil Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:05:40 AM UTC+10, jim whitby wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 14:59:47 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:

Guns don\'t kill people.
People kill people.

But if nut cases don\'t have access to guns they find it a lot harder to kill people and much harder to kill many people at once.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.
https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii

puts it in the context of a well-regulated militia. It wasn\'t clearly worded. and the US gun industry has taken it as an excuse to sell many more guns that the country needs, to people who shouldn\'t have them and clearly aren\'t careful enough about using them.

The \'well-regulated\' attribute is very plainly stated and well understood in 18th century English language to mean high performance. The very idea of militia entails creating a fighting force on very short notice without the benefit of basic training. Its members are expected to hit the ground running as they say. That\'s not going to happen if the recruitment pool don\'t have experience and proficiency with guns. This belief still holds true to this day. You might investigate the distribution of highly expert marksmen and snipers in modern militaries. You won\'t find many who haven\'t been using firearms since childhood.

The real culprit in the more notorious senseless mass killings committed by people with mental illness, is mismanagement, if not outright abuse, of psychoactive drug prescriptions and negligent case handling.

It\'s a disgraceful political scandal and kills a whole lot of people prematurely, mostly by making suicide a little too easy, but there are worse mental diseases than depression and shooting lots of other people all at once is excessively popular in the US.

Baloney.

--
Bil Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:47:28 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.
https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii

puts it in the context of a well-regulated militia. It wasn\'t clearly worded. and the US gun industry has taken it as an excuse to sell many more guns that the country needs, to people who shouldn\'t have them and clearly aren\'t careful enough about using them.

The \'well-regulated\' attribute is very plainly stated and well understood in 18th century English language to mean high performance. The very idea of militia entails creating a fighting force on very short notice without the benefit of basic training.

Total rubbish. Militia groups were long established parts of their communities, and widely exploited by rich people to show off the fact that they could afford military grade weapons.

Rembrandt\'s \"Night Watch\" is a group portrait of a Dutch militia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Watch

The US equivalents couldn\'t afford that quality of artist.

> Its members are expected to hit the ground running as they say.

They were expected to have drilled together regularly so that there could be moved around a battle-field as a coherent group or radpidly organised into skirmish line.

The weren\'t nearly as good as regular soldiers, and it took George Washington a long time to get his colonial army up to the point where they could win occasional battles with British regular troops,
but who do you think were Paul Revere\'s \"minute men\"? You are depressingly ignorant.

That\'s not going to happen if the recruitment pool don\'t have experience and proficiency with guns. This belief still holds true to this day. You might investigate the distribution of highly expert marksmen and snipers in modern militaries. You won\'t find many who haven\'t been using firearms since childhood.

The real culprit in the more notorious senseless mass killings committed by people with mental illness, is mismanagement, if not outright abuse, of psychoactive drug prescriptions and negligent case handling.

But if they can\'t get their hands on guns they kill many fewer people.

It\'s a disgraceful political scandal and kills a whole lot of people prematurely, mostly by making suicide a little too easy, but there are worse mental diseases than depression and shooting lots of other people all at once is excessively popular in the US.

Baloney.

Look at the statistics.

--
Bil Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.
https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii

puts it in the context of a well-regulated militia. It wasn\'t clearly worded. and the US gun industry has taken it as an excuse to sell many more guns that the country needs, to people who shouldn\'t have them and clearly aren\'t careful enough about using them.
The \'well-regulated\' attribute is very plainly stated and well understood in 18th century English language to mean high performance. The very idea of militia entails creating a fighting force on very short notice without the benefit of basic training. Its members are expected to hit the ground running as they say. That\'s not going to happen if the recruitment pool don\'t have experience and proficiency with guns. This belief still holds true to this day. You might investigate the distribution of highly expert marksmen and snipers in modern militaries. You won\'t find many who haven\'t been using firearms since childhood.

The real culprit in the more notorious senseless mass killings committed by people with mental illness, is mismanagement, if not outright abuse, of psychoactive drug prescriptions and negligent case handling.

It\'s a disgraceful political scandal and kills a whole lot of people prematurely, mostly by making suicide a little too easy, but there are worse mental diseases than depression and shooting lots of other people all at once is excessively popular in the US.
Baloney.


--
Bil Sloman, Sydney

I learned to shoot, at age 10 with a .22 rifle at Boy Scout Camp. Ten years later I was handed a M16 during Basic Training, to qualify in the US Army. It was damaged, and the barrel was worn so badly that the rifling was completely worn away. It was supposed to have a new barrel installed,, but they didn\'t get the parts on time. I hadn\'t fired anything in the intervening decade, yet I hit 20 out of 20 targets with it. It fired slightly upward and about ten degrees to the right. The Range Instructor was furious. He grabbed it from me, \"Your target is over here!. He emptied two magazines, and didn\'t hit anything. I put in my last magazine and fired the 20 rounds. One missed the target, but one was tumbling so bad that it hit two targets. He stomped away, yelling \"That weapon is defective!\" I just laughed at him. It was like playing pool with a warped cue stick.

I didn\'t have to re-qualify until two weeks before my Active Duty ended. I was handed a brand new M16, still covered in Cosmoline. (Ts was before they were all converted to Single or Semi Automatic modes only. You could operate singe, triple or fyll auto, but that mode wasted a lot of ammo, and caused excessive wear on rifles. Some early M16 parts were made by the toy company, Mattel, since they were the most experienced manufacturer of injection molded hard plastic parts at the time. Harrison Radiator, (A division of General Motors) made a lot of the receivers and other precision machined parts.

My favorites were the belt fed machine gun, and the M72, Light Antitank weapon. A disposable 26 ounce weapon that could blow the tread off of a moving enemy tank.

The Thermite grenades were cool, as well. To demonstrate it, they set one on top of an old Jeep engine and let it burn a hole all the way through, until the grenade fell out of the bottom while still burning.

Sloman certainly isn\'t mentally stable enough to ever be allowed to own a gun of any type. He belongs in a country where they treat everyone like mindless children. I wouldn\'t trust him with a pocket knife because he\'s always flying off the handle when someone points out his mistakes..
 
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Sloman certainly isn\'t mentally stable enough to ever be allowed to own a gun of any type.

I\'m not mentally unstable enough to want to own one.

The only one I\'ve ever fired was standard Australian army 0.303 calibre single shot rifle when I was an army cadet at school. It had had been sleeved down to 0.22 calibre so it was rather heavy, but that was what we used at the rifle range. As far as I can remember I hit the target and didn\'t hit anything else.

Many years later I found myself firing a Dutch cross bow at a target - I been dragged into an outing with my university co-workers and we all went to some village which had stuck with the cross-bow for their militia when richer villages had gone over to muskets. Again, I hit the target and didn\'t hit anything else

> He belongs in a country where they treat everyone like mindless children..

Far from it. If you need a gun you can get a gun license. Lots of farmers do. Mindless children can\'t (unlike the US).

> I wouldn\'t trust him with a pocket knife because he\'s always flying off the handle when someone points out his mistakes..

I get irritated when people falsely claim I\'ve made a mistake. I\'m much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn\'t happen often. Mike Terrell can\'t tell the difference.

My parents trusted me with edged tools from an early age. I\'ve got two scars from when they slipped, but I\'ve done a lot of woodworking, and there \'s not a lot of blood on the pieces that are still spread around the house.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:

snip
Sloman certainly isn\'t mentally stable enough to ever be allowed to own a gun of any type.
I\'m not mentally unstable enough to want to own one.

At least you know your limitations, even though you don\'t know why.

The only one I\'ve ever fired was standard Australian army 0.303 calibre single shot rifle when I was an army cadet at school. It had had been sleeved down to 0.22 calibre so it was rather heavy, but that was what we used at the rifle range. As far as I can remember I hit the target and didn\'t hit anything else.

Many years later I found myself firing a Dutch cross bow at a target - I been dragged into an outing with my university co-workers and we all went to some village which had stuck with the cross-bow for their militia when richer villages had gone over to muskets. Again, I hit the target and didn\'t hit anything else
He belongs in a country where they treat everyone like mindless children.
Far from it. If you need a gun you can get a gun license. Lots of farmers do. Mindless children can\'t (unlike the US).
I wouldn\'t trust him with a pocket knife because he\'s always flying off the handle when someone points out his mistakes..
I get irritated when people falsely claim I\'ve made a mistake. I\'m much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn\'t happen often. Mike Terrell can\'t tell the difference.

It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.

My parents trusted me with edged tools from an early age. I\'ve got two scars from when they slipped, but I\'ve done a lot of woodworking, and there \'s not a lot of blood on the pieces that are still spread around the house.

Most of your scars aren\'t visible - they are in your head.

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Bozo Bill Slowman, Sydney

Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

Bozo\'s Sewage Sweeper
 
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:

snip
Sloman certainly isn\'t mentally stable enough to ever be allowed to own a gun of any type.

I\'m not mentally unstable enough to want to own one.

At least you know your limitations, even though you don\'t know why.

I don\'t have anybody, or anything, that I need to shoot. If you weren\'t a anonymous troll you could be pest species that needed to be culled, but you probably look enough like a human being that this would upset people.

The only one I\'ve ever fired was standard Australian army 0.303 calibre single shot rifle when I was an army cadet at school. It had had been sleeved down to 0.22 calibre so it was rather heavy, but that was what we used at the rifle range. As far as I can remember I hit the target and didn\'t hit anything else.

Many years later I found myself firing a Dutch cross bow at a target - I been dragged into an outing with my university co-workers and we all went to some village which had stuck with the cross-bow for their militia when richer villages had gone over to muskets. Again, I hit the target and didn\'t hit anything else.

He belongs in a country where they treat everyone like mindless children.

Far from it. If you need a gun you can get a gun license. Lots of farmers do. Mindless children can\'t (unlike the US).

I wouldn\'t trust him with a pocket knife because he\'s always flying off the handle when someone points out his mistakes.

I get irritated when people falsely claim I\'ve made a mistake. I\'m much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn\'t happen often. Mike Terrell can\'t tell the difference.

It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.

I don\'t. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.

My parents trusted me with edged tools from an early age. I\'ve got two scars from when they slipped, but I\'ve done a lot of woodworking, and there \'s not a lot of blood on the pieces that are still spread around the house..

Most of your scars aren\'t visible - they are in your head.

There are two visible scars on my head (actually my face) - from field hockey. They didn\'t create any cognitive problems - of the kind you struggle with - or any other. I went on to get a Ph.D. after I\'d got them.

Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:18:20 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:47:28 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.
https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii

puts it in the context of a well-regulated militia. It wasn\'t clearly worded. and the US gun industry has taken it as an excuse to sell many more guns that the country needs, to people who shouldn\'t have them and clearly aren\'t careful enough about using them.

The \'well-regulated\' attribute is very plainly stated and well understood in 18th century English language to mean high performance. The very idea of militia entails creating a fighting force on very short notice without the benefit of basic training.
Total rubbish. Militia groups were long established parts of their communities, and widely exploited by rich people to show off the fact that they could afford military grade weapons.

Not in America...

Rembrandt\'s \"Night Watch\" is a group portrait of a Dutch militia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Watch

The US equivalents couldn\'t afford that quality of artist.
Its members are expected to hit the ground running as they say.
They were expected to have drilled together regularly so that there could be moved around a battle-field as a coherent group or radpidly organised into skirmish line.

The weren\'t nearly as good as regular soldiers, and it took George Washington a long time to get his colonial army up to the point where they could win occasional battles with British regular troops,

The one major true battle fought between the American and British was Saratoga, the humiliating defeat of Burgoyne\'s Army.

Washington couldn\'t get anywhere with the British army under Howe solidly entrenched in New York City. Howe lasted until their leisurely withdrawal by the British navy at the very end. Washington was lucky to overrun an isolated garrison of two, but all-in-all was doing absolutely nothing to end that war.

Cornwallis was eventually cornered and surrendered his army in Yorktown, Most of the fighting was done by the French under Rochambeau and his 6,000 French regulars in concert with De Grace interdicting the British by sea. Washington had a sizable presence with a force of 20,000, most of whom were drop-ins who joined his march south.


> but who do you think were Paul Revere\'s \"minute men\"? You are depressingly ignorant.

You do understand the subject matter is militia as it existed in early America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States) ( They\'re mainly talking about using militia for genocide of the indigenous. )

That\'s not going to happen if the recruitment pool don\'t have experience and proficiency with guns. This belief still holds true to this day. You might investigate the distribution of highly expert marksmen and snipers in modern militaries. You won\'t find many who haven\'t been using firearms since childhood.

The real culprit in the more notorious senseless mass killings committed by people with mental illness, is mismanagement, if not outright abuse, of psychoactive drug prescriptions and negligent case handling.
But if they can\'t get their hands on guns they kill many fewer people.
It\'s a disgraceful political scandal and kills a whole lot of people prematurely, mostly by making suicide a little too easy, but there are worse mental diseases than depression and shooting lots of other people all at once is excessively popular in the US.

Baloney.
Look at the statistics.

--
Bil Sloman, Sydney
 
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 10:33:01 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:18:20 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:47:28 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.
https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii

puts it in the context of a well-regulated militia. It wasn\'t clearly worded. and the US gun industry has taken it as an excuse to sell many more guns that the country needs, to people who shouldn\'t have them and clearly aren\'t careful enough about using them.

The \'well-regulated\' attribute is very plainly stated and well understood in 18th century English language to mean high performance. The very idea of militia entails creating a fighting force on very short notice without the benefit of basic training.
Total rubbish. Militia groups were long established parts of their communities, and widely exploited by rich people to show off the fact that they could afford military grade weapons.

Not in America...

We all known that Americans like to think of themselves as modest and unpretentious and never making exhibitions of themselves. It\'s all part of American exceptionalism. It\'s also rubbish.

Rembrandt\'s \"Night Watch\" is a group portrait of a Dutch militia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Watch

The US equivalents couldn\'t afford that quality of artist.

Its members are expected to hit the ground running as they say.

They were expected to have drilled together regularly so that they could be moved around a battle-field as a coherent group or rapidly organised into a skirmish line.

The weren\'t nearly as good as regular soldiers, and it took George Washington a long time to get his colonial army up to the point where they could win occasional battles with British regular troops,

The one major true battle fought between the American and British was Saratoga, the humiliating defeat of Burgoyne\'s Army.

Washington couldn\'t get anywhere with the British army under Howe solidly entrenched in New York City. Howe lasted until their leisurely withdrawal by the British navy at the very end. Washington was lucky to overrun an isolated garrison of two, but all-in-all was doing absolutely nothing to end that war.

Cornwallis was eventually cornered and surrendered his army in Yorktown, Most of the fighting was done by the French under Rochambeau and his 6,000 French regulars in concert with De Grace interdicting the British by sea. Washington had a sizable presence with a force of 20,000, most of whom were drop-ins who joined his march south.

but who do you think were Paul Revere\'s \"minute men\"? You are depressingly ignorant.

You do understand the subject matter is militia as it existed in early America.

That\'s what I\'d spent time spelling out. It wasn\'t wildly different from militias anywhere else.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States) ( They\'re mainly talking about using militia for genocide of the indigenous. )

The American Indians of the period were a tolerably sophisticated bunch, and happy to form alliances with the various European colonists when it suited them. Washington doesn\'t seem to have been into genocide, but he did end up owning a lot of property that had belonged to Indian tribes, that English legal system wouldn\'t have let him claim for himself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_George_Washington

> > > That\'s not going to happen if the recruitment pool don\'t have experience and proficiency with guns. This belief still holds true to this day. You might investigate the distribution of highly expert marksmen and snipers in modern militaries. You won\'t find many who haven\'t been using firearms since childhood.

I wouldn\'t bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don\'t have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.

One was developed and deployed by the British, but didn\'t see much use

https://allthingsliberty.com/2018/12/patrick-ferguson-and-his-rifle/

The real culprit in the more notorious senseless mass killings committed by people with mental illness, is mismanagement, if not outright abuse, of psychoactive drug prescriptions and negligent case handling.

But if they can\'t get their hands on guns they kill many fewer people.

It\'s a disgraceful political scandal and kills a whole lot of people prematurely, mostly by making suicide a little too easy, but there are worse mental diseases than depression and shooting lots of other people all at once is excessively popular in the US.

Baloney.
Look at the statistics.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:

snip
Sloman certainly isn\'t mentally stable enough to ever be allowed to own a gun of any type.

I\'m not mentally unstable enough to want to own one.

At least you know your limitations, even though you don\'t know why.
I don\'t have anybody, or anything, that I need to shoot. If you weren\'t a anonymous troll you could be pest species that needed to be culled, but you probably look enough like a human being that this would upset people.
The only one I\'ve ever fired was standard Australian army 0.303 calibre single shot rifle when I was an army cadet at school. It had had been sleeved down to 0.22 calibre so it was rather heavy, but that was what we used at the rifle range. As far as I can remember I hit the target and didn\'t hit anything else.

Many years later I found myself firing a Dutch cross bow at a target - I been dragged into an outing with my university co-workers and we all went to some village which had stuck with the cross-bow for their militia when richer villages had gone over to muskets. Again, I hit the target and didn\'t hit anything else.

He belongs in a country where they treat everyone like mindless children.

Far from it. If you need a gun you can get a gun license. Lots of farmers do. Mindless children can\'t (unlike the US).

I wouldn\'t trust him with a pocket knife because he\'s always flying off the handle when someone points out his mistakes.

I get irritated when people falsely claim I\'ve made a mistake. I\'m much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn\'t happen often. Mike Terrell can\'t tell the difference.

It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.
I don\'t. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.

Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???

My parents trusted me with edged tools from an early age. I\'ve got two scars from when they slipped, but I\'ve done a lot of woodworking, and there \'s not a lot of blood on the pieces that are still spread around the house.

Most of your scars aren\'t visible - they are in your head.
There are two visible scars on my head (actually my face) - from field hockey. They didn\'t create any cognitive problems - of the kind you struggle with - or any other. I went on to get a Ph.D. after I\'d got them.

Your scars aren\'t visible - they are INSIDE YOUR DEMENTED MIND.\'

Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this

This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN\'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html

--
Bozo Bill Slowman, Sydney

Bozo\'s Sewage Sweeper
 
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:07:31 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

I get irritated when people falsely claim I\'ve made a mistake. I\'m much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn\'t happen often. Mike Terrell can\'t tell the difference.

It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.

I don\'t. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.

Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???

You really should. The difference between using nuclear explosives - Project Plowshare style - to make a mine inaccessible to an invader, and \"nuking your won country\" is pretty dramatic.

The US set of some 35 nuclear explosions in it\'s own country while exploring the idea, and nobody has been prolsecuted for nuking your own country.\\

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare

<snip>

Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this.

This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN\'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!

The occasional psychopath will kill another human, and a few of them get lucky and kill several. Giving everybody guns so that they can kill anybody who looks like a psychopath to them isn\'t a way of minimising the number killed - far from it.

> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html

The Daily Mail exists to give right-wing lunatic like you your daily fix of indignation. It doesn\'t have anything useful to say, and never did.

The appropriate response is to keep guns and cars out of the hands of dangerous psychopath - the US does have driving licenses but baulks at gun licenses.

Picking dangerous psychopaths isn\'t easy - you are probably an obvious example, but less stupid people can hide it better. Fantasies about using your concealed-carry gun to kill dangerous criminals are a bit of a give-away

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:36:00 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:


> I wouldn\'t bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don\'t have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_rifle

Daniel Morgan put together a company of riflemen using these weapons and deployed to the battle of Saratoga. There was an unwritten rule of warfare at the time that prohibited lowly non-commissioned officers from killing officers of the opposing force. Morgan was obsessed with hatred for the officer corps of the British army, and ordered his men to prioritize targeting and killing them, which they did with great proficiency, as in 500 meter shots made from tall trees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27s_Riflemen

Seeing the ghastly wounds made by these large bore projectiles, the Hessians broke and ran. In a few instances their British officer handlers tried to stop them but were shot dead by the Hessians. It was quite a melee.


> Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 1:07:31 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:

snip
Sloman certainly isn\'t mentally stable enough to ever be allowed to own a gun of any type.

I\'m not mentally unstable enough to want to own one.

At least you know your limitations, even though you don\'t know why.
I don\'t have anybody, or anything, that I need to shoot. If you weren\'t a anonymous troll you could be pest species that needed to be culled, but you probably look enough like a human being that this would upset people.
The only one I\'ve ever fired was standard Australian army 0.303 calibre single shot rifle when I was an army cadet at school. It had had been sleeved down to 0.22 calibre so it was rather heavy, but that was what we used at the rifle range. As far as I can remember I hit the target and didn\'t hit anything else.

Many years later I found myself firing a Dutch cross bow at a target - I been dragged into an outing with my university co-workers and we all went to some village which had stuck with the cross-bow for their militia when richer villages had gone over to muskets. Again, I hit the target and didn\'t hit anything else.

He belongs in a country where they treat everyone like mindless children.

Far from it. If you need a gun you can get a gun license. Lots of farmers do. Mindless children can\'t (unlike the US).

I wouldn\'t trust him with a pocket knife because he\'s always flying off the handle when someone points out his mistakes.

I get irritated when people falsely claim I\'ve made a mistake. I\'m much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn\'t happen often. Mike Terrell can\'t tell the difference.

It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.
I don\'t. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.
Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???
My parents trusted me with edged tools from an early age. I\'ve got two scars from when they slipped, but I\'ve done a lot of woodworking, and there \'s not a lot of blood on the pieces that are still spread around the house.

Most of your scars aren\'t visible - they are in your head.
There are two visible scars on my head (actually my face) - from field hockey. They didn\'t create any cognitive problems - of the kind you struggle with - or any other. I went on to get a Ph.D. after I\'d got them.
Your scars aren\'t visible - they are INSIDE YOUR DEMENTED MIND.\'
Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this
This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN\'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html

That was juveniles joyriding in a stolen vehicle. They did not intend to kill the cyclist, they thought it would be funny to just bump him to the ground. The juveniles were morons and the cyclist was frail so a fatality was the result.



--
Bozo Bill Slowman, Sydney
Bozo\'s Sewage Sweeper
 
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:56:57 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:36:00 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:


I wouldn\'t bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don\'t have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_rifle

The long rifle wasn\'t a local militia weapon. It was specialised and expensive tool used by specialist marksmen,

Daniel Morgan put together a company of riflemen using these weapons and deployed to the battle of Saratoga. There was an unwritten rule of warfare at the time that prohibited lowly non-commissioned officers from killing officers of the opposing force. Morgan was obsessed with hatred for the officer corps of the British army, and ordered his men to prioritize targeting and killing them, which they did with great proficiency, as in 500 meter shots made from tall trees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27s_Riflemen

Seeing the ghastly wounds made by these large bore projectiles, the Hessians broke and ran. In a few instances their British officer handlers tried to stop them but were shot dead by the Hessians. It was quite a melee.

There nothing quite like superior weapons used by people who know how to use them. Local militia typically didn\'t spend that kind on money on their weapons, nor spend the time required to get thoroughly proficient with them. Neither did the bulk of professional army units. The needle rifle didn\'t show up for another sixty years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 

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