Ultimate Dumbing Down...

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

fredag den 1. september 2023 kl. 13.10.25 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:

On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 11:58:33 +0100, Martin Brown
\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

On 01/09/2023 03:31, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:38:35 -0700, Don Y
blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:

I had to visit a package store, yesterday, to buy some
booze for a friend\'s bday. After ringing up the sale,
he asked for my ID (REALLY? Do I look *20*? 30?? 40???)

Turns out, they\'ve got a little appliance to verify your age.
Despite the fact that the two items most visible on the
license are your birthdate... and your birthdate??

Just how low have they set the qualifications for cashiers
if they can\'t make THAT decision, unaided?? Are they sure
the cashier can differentiate a $5 from a $20?

rolls eyes

Our Safeway is asking everyone that buys beer for an ID. New policy.

What a curious rule to have in \"The Land of the Free\". Papers please...
I assume that the management doesn\'t want the checkout people having
to make judgements about age.

Can kids buy liquor where you live?

depends on what you mean by kids, here you have be 16 to buy alcohol over 1.2% and 18 to buy alcohol over 16.5%

 

[Don Y]

On 9/1/2023 5:15 AM, Don Y wrote:

If you look at a DL, finding the date isn\'t hard -- it\'s written
in TWO places on mine; it\'s smack dab in the center of my passport
card; AND my passport\'s information page.  The easiest datum to
extract from any of these credentials!

Passport card:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_passport_card#/media/Fileassport_card.jpg>

Passport information page:
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/United_States_Next_Generation_Passport_signature_and_biodata_page.jpg>

Driver\'s license:
<https://cronkitenews.asu.edu/assets/images/14/07/07-drivers-license-full.jpg>
(note its presence TWICE thereon!)

Sure doesn\'t seem like it would be that hard to figure out what
the DoB of the holder would be! Even if there are multiple dates
present (and you can\'t read the legend explaining what each is),
the OLDEST date will be the DoB (cuz the license will obviously
EXPIRE after it has been ISSUED and was ISSUED after the BIRTH!)

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:09:12 +0100, Martin Brown
<\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

On 01/09/2023 12:10, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 11:58:33 +0100, Martin Brown
\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

On 01/09/2023 03:31, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:38:35 -0700, Don Y
blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:

I had to visit a package store, yesterday, to buy some
booze for a friend\'s bday. After ringing up the sale,
he asked for my ID (REALLY? Do I look *20*? 30?? 40???)

Turns out, they\'ve got a little appliance to verify your age.
Despite the fact that the two items most visible on the
license are your birthdate... and your birthdate??

Just how low have they set the qualifications for cashiers
if they can\'t make THAT decision, unaided?? Are they sure
the cashier can differentiate a $5 from a $20?

rolls eyes

Our Safeway is asking everyone that buys beer for an ID. New policy.

What a curious rule to have in \"The Land of the Free\". Papers please...

I assume that the management doesn\'t want the checkout people having
to make judgements about age.

Most of the time it is blindingly obvious that the majority shoppers in
a supermarket are not spotty teenagers trying to buy liquor/beer.

Can kids buy liquor where you live?

Back when I was growing up I could easily pass for 18 (UK legal drinking
age) when I was 16 - these days it is a lot tighter on ID for under 25\'s
but anyone over 18 can buy a drink.

Buying alcohol triggers an alert on supermarket self checkouts that
requires someone to OK the sale either using video feed from the till
camera or by physical intervention and entering a supervisor code. It
means that at busy times of day it isn\'t worth buying alcohol in some
stores because of the wait time for a supervisor to authorise it.

Can kids buy liquor where you live, in your land of the free?

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 07:05:35 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

fredag den 1. september 2023 kl. 13.10.25 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 11:58:33 +0100, Martin Brown
\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

On 01/09/2023 03:31, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:38:35 -0700, Don Y
blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:

I had to visit a package store, yesterday, to buy some
booze for a friend\'s bday. After ringing up the sale,
he asked for my ID (REALLY? Do I look *20*? 30?? 40???)

Turns out, they\'ve got a little appliance to verify your age.
Despite the fact that the two items most visible on the
license are your birthdate... and your birthdate??

Just how low have they set the qualifications for cashiers
if they can\'t make THAT decision, unaided?? Are they sure
the cashier can differentiate a $5 from a $20?

rolls eyes

Our Safeway is asking everyone that buys beer for an ID. New policy.

What a curious rule to have in \"The Land of the Free\". Papers please...
I assume that the management doesn\'t want the checkout people having
to make judgements about age.

Can kids buy liquor where you live?

depends on what you mean by kids, here you have be 16 to buy alcohol over 1.2% and 18 to buy alcohol over 16.5%

How is that enforced? Do young people have to show Papers, please?

 

[John Robertson]

On 2023/08/31 7:53 p.m., Sylvia Else wrote:

On 01-Sept-23 12:31 pm, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:38:35 -0700, Don Y
blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:

I had to visit a package store, yesterday, to buy some
booze for a friend\'s bday.  After ringing up the sale,
he asked for my ID (REALLY?  Do I look *20*?  30??  40???)

Turns out, they\'ve got a little appliance to verify your age.
Despite the fact that the two items most visible on the
license are your birthdate... and your birthdate??

Just how low have they set the qualifications for cashiers
if they can\'t make THAT decision, unaided??  Are they sure
the cashier can differentiate a $5 from a $20?

rolls eyes>

Our Safeway is asking everyone that buys beer for an ID. New policy.


I suppose it avoids discriminating against people who just look young
for their age.

When I was young (a long time ago - sigh) I was twice stopped by police
while driving my own car because they thought I looked too young to be
driving. Since this was in the UK, neither case escalated into a
shooting [*]

Sylvia.

[*] Though the fact that neither the public nor the police are allowed
to routinely [**] carry firearms in the UK may have been a factor.

[**] Sorry about the split infinitive.

I suspect the company was sued for selling to someone who turned out to
be a minor and caused an expensive event to happen.

So now they are playing it safe...

John :-#(#

P.S. Split infinitives are the least of my worries as I tend to do
run-on sentences, what is the penalty for that?

 

[Martin Brown]

On 01/09/2023 15:49, John Larkin wrote:

> Can kids buy liquor where you live, in your land of the free?

Not legally until they are over 18 (or looked like they were in my day).

However, you can work in a bar and sell alcohol once you are over 16 and
in the presence of an adult consume beer, cider or wine with a meal
here. Exact rules vary with county council and how puritanical they are
so some places an under 16 can only sell beer/cider in sealed cans.

It was an open secret in my youth which pubs and clubs were not too
fussy about checking ID and I expect that is still true today.

--
Martin Brown