Tv reception

[F Murtz]

For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not working
on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g towers, fixed
wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

 

[Lucifer Morningstar]

On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 23:49:55 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not working
on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g towers, fixed
wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

My electric fence was interfering with my TV reception.

--
President Trump will make America great again

 

[F Murtz]

Lucifer Morningstar wrote:

On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 23:49:55 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not working
on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g towers, fixed
wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

My electric fence was interfering with my TV reception.

If I had an electric fence that would be one of the first suspects but
who would think turning a light on would cause it, if I lived with
anyone I may have figured it out earlier.

 

[Computer Nerd Kev]

In aus.electronics F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:

For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not working
on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g towers, fixed
wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

I wish I could put down my TV reception's bad stints to something
like that. I ususally mumble something nasty about digital TV when
it happens because the "all or nothing" consequence of a weak
digital signal makes the whole experiance so much more annoying
than the bit of noise that might have appeared in analogue
reception.

It's funny how reception can be bad for a week or more then fine
for months afterwards, or only dodgy on a few nights. Probably
something to do with atmospheric conditions. Maybe I should
look at the atmosphere monitor webpages that the ham radio
people use next time there's a long stint of trouble.

The transmitter's around 70Km away.

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[Computer Nerd Kev]

In aus.computers Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> wrote:

On 05/02/17 09:21, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

I wish I could put down my TV reception's bad stints to something
like that. I ususally mumble something nasty about digital TV when
it happens because the "all or nothing" consequence of a weak
digital signal makes the whole experiance so much more annoying
than the bit of noise that might have appeared in analogue
reception.

It's funny how reception can be bad for a week or more then fine
for months afterwards, or only dodgy on a few nights. Probably
something to do with atmospheric conditions. Maybe I should
look at the atmosphere monitor webpages that the ham radio
people use next time there's a long stint of trouble.

The transmitter's around 70Km away.

A lot of people were affected by the move to UHF (225 MHz up
to 570-ish). In some places where before you could survive
without direct line of sight (perhaps behind a hill) you now
can't, even with the digital system error correction.

It was UHF before the switch to digital as well, but the
error correction I was able to perform in my mind when
watching a slightly fuzzy analogue picture was far better
than the digital video processor in my set-top box is able
to manage.

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[Rod Speed]

F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote

For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV
not working on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g
towers, fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.

I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

Presumably your signal levels arent great and
the interference it produces swamps the TV signal.

 

[Max]

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Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 23:49:55 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not working
on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g towers, fixed
wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

My electric fence was interfering with my TV reception.

If I had an electric fence that would be one of the first suspects but who
would think turning a light on would cause it, if I lived with anyone I
may have figured it out earlier.

Why would you have figured it out earlier if you lived with someone?

 

[Blue Peeler]

F Murtz wrote:

For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not
working on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g towers,
fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc. I have
just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable. TV does not
work if the kitchen light is on. The culprit is one of these, a 12"
or so multiple led ceiling LED similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

That will teach you to buy cheap shit from china!


PS. I bought a number of power supplies to convert fluro tube lights to
LED and they did exactly the same bloody thing.


At least they were only a couple of bucks each.

 

[Blue Peeler]

Lucifer Morningstar wrote:

My electric fence was interfering with my TV reception.

To clarify - was that the electronics in the fence generator, or the
screams of the victims that was intruding on your viewing pleasure?

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 04/02/17 23:49, F Murtz wrote:

For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not working
on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g towers, fixed
wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

A lot of the cheap Chinese stuff is like that.

The "Muller" brand that Aldi stocks twice a year seem to produce
good light (even spread and good colour) and very little interference.

Clifford Heath.

 

[Lucifer Morningstar]

On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 01:15:39 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 23:49:55 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not working
on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g towers, fixed
wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

My electric fence was interfering with my TV reception.

If I had an electric fence that would be one of the first suspects but
who would think turning a light on would cause it, if I lived with
anyone I may have figured it out earlier.

My electric fence was affecting the signal quality to where the
picture and sound dropped out completely but not in pulses
like the electric fence.

--
President Trump will make America great again

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 05/02/17 09:21, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

In aus.electronics F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not working
on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g towers, fixed
wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

I wish I could put down my TV reception's bad stints to something
like that. I ususally mumble something nasty about digital TV when
it happens because the "all or nothing" consequence of a weak
digital signal makes the whole experiance so much more annoying
than the bit of noise that might have appeared in analogue
reception.

It's funny how reception can be bad for a week or more then fine
for months afterwards, or only dodgy on a few nights. Probably
something to do with atmospheric conditions. Maybe I should
look at the atmosphere monitor webpages that the ham radio
people use next time there's a long stint of trouble.

The transmitter's around 70Km away.

A lot of people were affected by the move to UHF (225 MHz up
to 570-ish). In some places where before you could survive
without direct line of sight (perhaps behind a hill) you now
can't, even with the digital system error correction.

Clifford Heath.

 

[Computer Nerd Kev]

On 05 Feb 2017, noel wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 09:44:30 +1100, Clifford Heath wrote:

On 05/02/17 09:21, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
For months I have been having problems with tv reception
TV not working on most channels for hours, I have been
blaming 4g towers, fixed wireless towers etc that have
just been put up etc. I have just found the cause by
accident, almost unbelievable. TV does not work if the
kitchen light is on. The culprit is one of these, a 12"
or so multiple led ceiling LED similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

I wish I could put down my TV reception's bad stints to
something like that. I ususally mumble something nasty
about digital TV when it happens because the "all or
nothing" consequence of a weak digital signal makes the
whole experiance so much more annoying than the bit of
noise that might have appeared in analogue reception.

It's funny how reception can be bad for a week or more
then fine for months afterwards, or only dodgy on a few
nights. Probably something to do with atmospheric
conditions. Maybe I should look at the atmosphere monitor
webpages that the ham radio people use next time there's
a long stint of trouble.

The transmitter's around 70Km away.

A lot of people were affected by the move to UHF (225 MHz
up to 570-ish). In some places where before you could
survive without direct line of sight (perhaps behind a
hill) you now can't, even with the digital system error
correction.

Clifford Heath.

might be stupid question, but was the OP's antennae
upgraded with the move to digital

We had that problem here with analogue, had new ant and
amplifier installed when we moved in, was still not the
best, move to digital required new ant, and the guys had to
"substantially" wind back the amplifiers gain due to too
much signal.

If I'm the OP you're talking about, my aerial is designed for
digital. The installation was a DIY affair though (one person
on the roof, another watching the set-top box's signal level
menu). That procedure has been repeated a few times after the
wind's blown the antenna in the wrong direction - the mounting
design really isn't suited to the "watch the world blow by
your window" winds out here.

Not optimal, but it shouldn't be any worse than the set-up on
analogue.

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[Computer Nerd Kev]

On 05 Feb 2017, noel wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 00:00:21 +0000, Computer Nerd Kev
wrote:
In aus.computers Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net
wrote:
On 05/02/17 09:21, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

I wish I could put down my TV reception's bad stints to
something like that. I ususally mumble something nasty
about digital TV when it happens because the "all or
nothing" consequence of a weak digital signal makes the
whole experiance so much more annoying than the bit
of noise that might have appeared in analogue reception.

It's funny how reception can be bad for a week or more
then fine for months afterwards, or only dodgy on a few
nights. Probably something to do with atmospheric
conditions. Maybe I should look at the atmosphere
monitor webpages that the ham radio people use next time
there's a long stint of trouble.

The transmitter's around 70Km away.

A lot of people were affected by the move to UHF (225 MHz
up to 570-ish). In some places where before you could
survive without direct line of sight (perhaps behind a
hill) you now can't, even with the digital system error
correction.

It was UHF before the switch to digital as well, but the
error correction I was able to perform in my mind when
watching a slightly fuzzy analogue picture was far better
than the digital video processor in my set-top box is able
to manage.


eeeeekkkkkk a lot of those set top boxes are deaf junk,
they are made for city dwellers, try borrow a family
members or friends digital TV and see if that makes a
difference

I've got a few other set-top boxes around that I could swap
over. It would be a bugger of a thing to test though because
you never know when the signal's going to come good of its own
accord. I might get desperate enough to give it a try next
time I get a week of "comes good at the end credits" pain.

On a bad night it can be out for well over 15min with the "no
signal" window (or a scrambled resemblance of the last frame
to make it through), so that would be a good chance to test.

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[Computer Nerd Kev]

On 05 Feb 2017, F Murtz wrote:

Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
For months I have been having problems with tv reception
TV not working on most channels for hours, I have been
blaming 4g towers, fixed wireless towers etc that have
just been put up etc. I have just found the cause by
accident, almost unbelievable. TV does not work if the
kitchen light is on. The culprit is one of these, a 12"
or so multiple led ceiling LED similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

I wish I could put down my TV reception's bad stints to
something like that. I ususally mumble something nasty
about digital TV when it happens because the "all or
nothing" consequence of a weak digital signal makes the
whole experiance so much more annoying than the bit of
noise that might have appeared in analogue reception.

It's funny how reception can be bad for a week or more
then fine for months afterwards, or only dodgy on a few
nights. Probably something to do with atmospheric
conditions. Maybe I should look at the atmosphere monitor
webpages that the ham radio people use next time there's a
long stint of trouble.

The transmitter's around 70Km away.

I always have had minor glitches that I put down to the
weather but this was almost all or nothing.

Often is with me too on a bad night. At least I can fast
forward through it if I recorded a program, but I can find
myself watching a different show when it comes back. It's
alright most of the time though.

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[~misfit~]

Once upon a time on usenet Max wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5895e20f$0$55943$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com...
Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 23:49:55 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not
working on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g towers,
fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

My electric fence was interfering with my TV reception.

If I had an electric fence that would be one of the first suspects
but who would think turning a light on would cause it, if I lived
with anyone I may have figured it out earlier.

Why would you have figured it out earlier if you lived with someone?

Less time with pants around ankles? <g>
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

 

[Petzl]

On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:49:10 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Petzl wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 06:11:20 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote

For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV
not working on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g
towers, fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.

I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

Presumably your signal levels arent great and
the interference it produces swamps the TV signal.

He won't pay the local Indian guy $100 to put in Digital Aerial and
did it himself!
mkumar65 [ at ] live [ dot ] com [ dot ] com
Just had my tile roof cleaned and he straightened all the ones knocked
out of place

I am still using the professionally installed system The other was to
try and rectify what I erroneously thought was the problem.

If it is a analogue TV aerial it's no good.

For years I also found turning devices on cost me reception?
Local paper gave me that guy and lucked he is good and cheap.
--
Petzl
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement.
In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"

 

[noel]

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 09:44:30 +1100, Clifford Heath wrote:

On 05/02/17 09:21, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not
working on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g towers,
fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

I wish I could put down my TV reception's bad stints to something like
that. I ususally mumble something nasty about digital TV when it
happens because the "all or nothing" consequence of a weak digital
signal makes the whole experiance so much more annoying than the bit of
noise that might have appeared in analogue reception.

It's funny how reception can be bad for a week or more then fine for
months afterwards, or only dodgy on a few nights. Probably something to
do with atmospheric conditions. Maybe I should look at the atmosphere
monitor webpages that the ham radio people use next time there's a long
stint of trouble.

The transmitter's around 70Km away.

A lot of people were affected by the move to UHF (225 MHz up to
570-ish). In some places where before you could survive without direct
line of sight (perhaps behind a hill) you now can't, even with the
digital system error correction.

Clifford Heath.

might be stupid question, but was the OP's antennae upgraded with the
move to digital

We had that problem here with analogue, had new ant and amplifier
installed when we moved in, was still not the best, move to digital
required new ant, and the guys had to "substantially" wind back the
amplifiers gain due to too much signal.

 

[noel]

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 00:00:21 +0000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

In aus.computers Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> wrote:
On 05/02/17 09:21, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

I wish I could put down my TV reception's bad stints to something like
that. I ususally mumble something nasty about digital TV when it
happens because the "all or nothing" consequence of a weak digital
signal makes the whole experiance so much more annoying than the bit
of noise that might have appeared in analogue reception.

It's funny how reception can be bad for a week or more then fine for
months afterwards, or only dodgy on a few nights. Probably something
to do with atmospheric conditions. Maybe I should look at the
atmosphere monitor webpages that the ham radio people use next time
there's a long stint of trouble.

The transmitter's around 70Km away.

A lot of people were affected by the move to UHF (225 MHz up to
570-ish). In some places where before you could survive without direct
line of sight (perhaps behind a hill) you now can't, even with the
digital system error correction.

It was UHF before the switch to digital as well, but the error
correction I was able to perform in my mind when watching a slightly
fuzzy analogue picture was far better than the digital video processor
in my set-top box is able to manage.

eeeeekkkkkk a lot of those set top boxes are deaf junk, they are made
for city dwellers, try borrow a family members or friends digital TV and
see if that makes a difference

 

[Petzl]

On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 06:11:20 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote

For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV
not working on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g
towers, fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.

I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha

Presumably your signal levels arent great and
the interference it produces swamps the TV signal.

He won't pay the local Indian guy $100 to put in Digital Aerial and
did it himself!
mkumar65 [ at ] live [ dot ] com [ dot ] com
Just had my tile roof cleaned and he straightened all the ones knocked
out of place
--
Petzl
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement.
In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"