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[MooseFET]

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:14:54 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Joerg,

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:QlJxj.3261$pl4.18@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
But don't you guys use OrCad? I used to, but not anymore.

Yeah, for production stuff we do. I definitely don't *like* that fact,
but
we're in the (not so uncommon) situation that we have a number of ORCAD
licenses that were purchased years ago so switching requires...

1) Outlay of "new purchase price" for the alternative rather than just
shelling out maintenance every year
2) Conversion of current library parts over to new system
3) Re-training of engineers & techs to use the new system

ORCAD is spendy enough that #1 isn't too big of a problem, and our
libraries
still only have hundreds (not thousands) of symbols in them so changeover
there isn't too bad (I wouldn't imagine it'd be more than a month's
effort),
but #3 is difficult to get by some people since they're so used to ORCAD,
they
don't really see its shortcomings, and they're not personally footing the
bill
for it. (I think there's often a "bell curve of happiness" associated
with
mediocre software... new users have problems with everything, regular but
undemanding users are happy because they don't stress the tool much so it
works OK, whereas advanced/demanding users are unhappy again because they
realize that there are so many better options out there).

Sometime this year I'm planning on making a proper (formal) presentation
comparing ORCAD with, e.g., Pulsonix. We'll see what happens...

Heck, is Autotrax still around? That used to be pretty good and I bet it
won't be expensive anymore.

Autotrax or AutoTRAX? Wikipedia discusses two of them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutoTRAX_EDA

---Joel

P.S. -- Vaguely related story about software quality: I have a friend who
works for a Big Software Company. In general he says that their most
sophisticated users and bug reports come from Europe. They had one guy in
the
U.K. who was constantly filling bug reports with them -- it was almost
uncanny
how "good" he was at discovering them. At some point it dawned on them
that... hey... this would be a very useful guy to hire! They offered, he
accepted, and now he's working here in Oregon. It turns out this fellow
has
been using the software package in question for longer than anyone who's
currently on staff at the company (!), and he has an excellent memory,
being
able to provide in-depth comparisons and contrasts of the package and
what's
been changed and fixed/broken in it for the past decade. Amazing...


Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't.

I literally buried the PSpice support people in accurate bug
reports/"issues".

They thanked me profusely and did nothing.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

Are you NI(national instrument) software went on sales lately? That's an
indication that you dumass going down... Heehee......Halleluiah. Shame on
you arrogant people.

 

[William Sommerwerck]

"MooseFET" <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote in message
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"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Why has no one ever pointed out that ASICs are actually AN-SICs?

Because Jim and I are retarded bastards. Your definition sounds to
close to ANSI C definition. There are million ways to name a thing.

What does C have to do with ICs? As usual, one needs to spell out
everything.

An "application-specific IC" is no more an application-specific device than
blank sheets of paper and pile of pencils are a novel. They should actually
be called "application non-specific ICs".

 

[MooseFET]

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"MooseFET" <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote in message
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"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Why has no one ever pointed out that ASICs are actually AN-SICs?

Because Jim and I are retarded bastards. Your definition sounds to
close to ANSI C definition. There are million ways to name a thing.

What does C have to do with ICs? As usual, one needs to spell out
everything.

An "application-specific IC" is no more an application-specific device
than
blank sheets of paper and pile of pencils are a novel. They should
actually
be called "application non-specific ICs".

"A" stands for "application-specific" dummy. No need to make it lenghty.

 

[MooseFET]

"MooseFET" <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote in message
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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:14:54 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Joerg,

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:QlJxj.3261$pl4.18@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
But don't you guys use OrCad? I used to, but not anymore.

Yeah, for production stuff we do. I definitely don't *like* that fact,
but
we're in the (not so uncommon) situation that we have a number of ORCAD
licenses that were purchased years ago so switching requires...

1) Outlay of "new purchase price" for the alternative rather than just
shelling out maintenance every year
2) Conversion of current library parts over to new system
3) Re-training of engineers & techs to use the new system

ORCAD is spendy enough that #1 isn't too big of a problem, and our
libraries
still only have hundreds (not thousands) of symbols in them so changeover
there isn't too bad (I wouldn't imagine it'd be more than a month's
effort),
but #3 is difficult to get by some people since they're so used to ORCAD,
they
don't really see its shortcomings, and they're not personally footing the
bill
for it. (I think there's often a "bell curve of happiness" associated
with
mediocre software... new users have problems with everything, regular but
undemanding users are happy because they don't stress the tool much so it
works OK, whereas advanced/demanding users are unhappy again because they
realize that there are so many better options out there).

Sometime this year I'm planning on making a proper (formal) presentation
comparing ORCAD with, e.g., Pulsonix. We'll see what happens...

Heck, is Autotrax still around? That used to be pretty good and I bet
it
won't be expensive anymore.

Autotrax or AutoTRAX? Wikipedia discusses two of them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutoTRAX_EDA

---Joel

P.S. -- Vaguely related story about software quality: I have a friend who
works for a Big Software Company. In general he says that their most
sophisticated users and bug reports come from Europe. They had one guy
in
the
U.K. who was constantly filling bug reports with them -- it was almost
uncanny
how "good" he was at discovering them. At some point it dawned on them
that... hey... this would be a very useful guy to hire! They offered, he
accepted, and now he's working here in Oregon. It turns out this fellow
has
been using the software package in question for longer than anyone who's
currently on staff at the company (!), and he has an excellent memory,
being
able to provide in-depth comparisons and contrasts of the package and
what's
been changed and fixed/broken in it for the past decade. Amazing...


Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't.

I literally buried the PSpice support people in accurate bug
reports/"issues".

They thanked me profusely and did nothing.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave



Are you * NI(national instrument) software going on sales lately? That's
an
indication that you dumass going down... Heehee......Halleluiah. Shame on
you arrogant people.

The above was a test to see if the war bastards can fill in the missing
words. Evidently they gave up, the missing words are "aware of"

 

[William Sommerwerck]

"MooseFET" <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote in message
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"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"MooseFET" <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote in message
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"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Why has no one ever pointed out that ASICs are actually AN-SICs?

Because Jim and I are retarded bastards. Your definition sounds to
close to ANSI C definition. There are million ways to name a thing.

What does C have to do with ICs? As usual, one needs to spell out
everything.

An "application-specific IC" is no more an application-specific device
than
blank sheets of paper and pile of pencils are a novel. They should
actually
be called "application non-specific ICs".



"A" stands for "application-specific" dummy. No need to make it lenghty.

Again, you miss the point.

 

[Sam Goldwasser]

Astriapo <astriapo@earthlink.net> writes:

NEVER run a microwave with out the cover and after the cover has been
replace it needs to be tested for microwave leaks.

However, keep in mind that the outer cover is the second line of defense.

Unless the magnetron has been removed and improperly replaced, there
should be insignificant microwave leakage even with the sheet metal
cover removed.

--- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/
Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/
+Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/lasersam.htm
| Mirror Sites: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_mirror.html

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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 18:15:27 -0400, Madloot303 <madloot303@aol.com
wrote:

After repairing a microwave oven should I plug it in and test it to make sure
everythings in working order before I reassemble it?

 

[JosephKK]

William Sommerwerck wrote:

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news:fq7gu2$f6j$2@aioe.org...
mad.scientist.jr@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:822b2e22-260a-4ed7-ad34-3232bb35e76e@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

I need to display the numbers 0-255 in decimal on a 3-digit LED
display for a microcontroller project (it would need to be visible in
the dark). Ideally the display would be inexpensive and not take up
too many uC outputs, but what I am finding is expensive ($30 or more).
Does anyone make an inexpensive 3-digit 7-segment LED module that
accepts serial input from say, a PICAXE or a BASIC Stamp 2? Also I
haven't done anything using serial i/o yet but I saw some displays
that had a "clock" pin (so the controller can sync up the data stream
with the module). Would I need to get a clock module for the basic
stamp to talk to the display module? What would a good one be? Can you
build a reliable clock for less using a 555 timer? I as thinking about
how such a device might work without a clock and thought of a way to
do it with 2 lines output, 0-0 would mean no data, 0-1 would mean here
comes some data, 1-0 would mean low, 1-1 would mean high. The display
module would consist of a microcontroller with 2 inputs and 12 outputs
(3 groups of 4 outputs going to a 7-segment encoder IC to drive each
digit). Is this a decent solution or unnecessary? Any advice or links
to a good example would be appreciated... Thanks.

You sure ask a lot of questions for someone from New Jersey.


Save your cash, forget electronic toys, you will be starved. Only buy what
you need. Take me for example, I am out of job, I have to post my fancy ad
at the bottom of my post every time. Go figure.

Analog/Mixed-Signal ASICK's and Discrete Systems

Is that a joke?

Why has no one ever pointed out that ASICs are actually AN-SICs?

Responding to some name faking twit i see. Check the headers.

 

[JosephKK]

William Sommerwerck wrote:

"MooseFET" <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote in message
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"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Why has no one ever pointed out that ASICs are actually AN-SICs?

Because Jim and I are retarded bastards. Your definition sounds to
close to ANSI C definition. There are million ways to name a thing.

What does C have to do with ICs? As usual, one needs to spell out
everything.

An "application-specific IC" is no more an application-specific device than
blank sheets of paper and pile of pencils are a novel. They should actually
be called "application non-specific ICs".

Talking up the to the sewer rat still? Check some more headers.

 

[JakTheHammer]

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:8sjjs3t5ce3ltdsafqm1rmmr3vc8l5f8gv@4ax.com...

Obama's Middle Name Controversy...

I don't know why all the fuss.

Isn't Robin Hood a perfectly good middle name ?

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

So you like ChipMunk McCain who doesn't understand the transition of War and
New ALQUEIDA in IRAQ. That's your new battle ground Because they don't want
you to own their Land idiot. You're a stupid PE, still think you're an
Engineer fucker?

Your economy is suffering because of your McBush, overspending $9b/day in
Iraq, plus he shipped your job to foreigners dummy, and you still believe in
your shitty leaders? Go hang your saggy dick.

 

[Sam Goldwasser]

Astriapo <astriapo@earthlink.net> writes:

NEVER run a microwave with out the cover and after the cover has been
replace it needs to be tested for microwave leaks.

However, keep in mind that the outer cover is the second line of defense.

Unless the magnetron has been removed and improperly replaced, there
should be insignificant microwave leakage even with the sheet metal
cover removed.

--- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/
Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/
+Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/lasersam.htm
| Mirror Sites: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_mirror.html

Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above is
ignored unless my full name AND either lasers or electronics is included in the
subject line. Or, you can contact me via the Feedback Form in the FAQs.

On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 18:15:27 -0400, Madloot303 <madloot303@aol.com
wrote:

After repairing a microwave oven should I plug it in and test it to make sure
everythings in working order before I reassemble it?

 

[Sam Goldwasser]

Astriapo <astriapo@earthlink.net> writes:

Sounds like one of the thermostats inside the case is bad. Could also
be a bad transformer.

Or an intermittent filament connection to the magnetron.

Put it on 50 percent power and listen carefully for the sound as the
magnetron kicks in. There should be a subtle change in the hum as
the filament heats up and the magnetron starts drawing power. I bet
that will be absent once it stops heating. Of course, could also
be a bad transformer, relay, other wiring, etc. This should be
repariable relatively easily though. Inexpensively unless it's
a bad transformer or an intermittent filament inside the magnetron.

--- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/
Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/
+Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/lasersam.htm
| Mirror Sites: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_mirror.html

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On 1 Aug 2003 19:32:50 -0700, beanie_bari@yahoo.com (Beanie) wrote:

Okay, so I've tried everything possible to get a microwave that was
picked up off the street to work. It's a Kenmore 565.8925590, 1300W,
serial 1V7C01490, manufactured September 1991. The magnetron and
controller IC are made by Sanyo, so I imagine that the entire oven
was, too. So, here's the symptoms the microwave exhibits:
The microwave will happily begin to microwave a cup of water. After
about a minute or so, the fan and the turntable will stop. The light
stays on, and the counter keeps going. If I stop the microwave cycle
and let the oven cool down, I can start it up again, for about another
minute. So, I opened it up, and checked the usual suspects (fuse,
interlock switches, etc.) The primary interlock switch was always
open, so I replaced it. That didn't fix anything. All of the
switches appear to be making good contact with the actuators on the
door. There are two thermal protectors. Both offer a resistance of
zero, and according to the schematic (and the actual wire routing) if
either opened, it would kill power to the entire oven--so I know that
they are not at fault here. The magnetron does become hot to the
touch, but it's not _that_ (135 degrees centigrade) hot.
As far as I can tell, the only thing left to be at fault is the
relays, that are located on the controller board. I'm a little leery
of testing the relays on it with the oven live--especially because the
warning labels clearly state that the step-down transformer will give
me a jolt. There is a burn mark on the PCB in the center, but the
resistors, diodes, and caps in that area all test fine.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

--Chris

 

[JosephKK]

"John S" <johnsss@at.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:FApyj.17361$0w.15977@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...

I have little hope you will bother to read this article, but perhaps if you
do, you will be at least a bit more informed how the incompetence of the
current administration has crippled this country:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/28/iraq.afghanistan
John S

I'll have to be frank with you crummy John. Jim and I don't believe in your shitty document because we are Americun' Shit. If we can kill innocent people around the world and make up a reason to cover up, who will dare to get us? It's a piece cake to cover up, don't you know?


"Our Cuntry going down" because of the Hitler, and the AL Qe..whatever that is. Damn it!

 

[Sam Goldwasser]

Astriapo <astriapo@earthlink.net> writes:

Sounds like one of the thermostats inside the case is bad. Could also
be a bad transformer.

Or an intermittent filament connection to the magnetron.

Put it on 50 percent power and listen carefully for the sound as the
magnetron kicks in. There should be a subtle change in the hum as
the filament heats up and the magnetron starts drawing power. I bet
that will be absent once it stops heating. Of course, could also
be a bad transformer, relay, other wiring, etc. This should be
repariable relatively easily though. Inexpensively unless it's
a bad transformer or an intermittent filament inside the magnetron.

--- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/
Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/
+Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/lasersam.htm
| Mirror Sites: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_mirror.html

Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above is
ignored unless my full name AND either lasers or electronics is included in the
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On 1 Aug 2003 19:32:50 -0700, beanie_bari@yahoo.com (Beanie) wrote:

Okay, so I've tried everything possible to get a microwave that was
picked up off the street to work. It's a Kenmore 565.8925590, 1300W,
serial 1V7C01490, manufactured September 1991. The magnetron and
controller IC are made by Sanyo, so I imagine that the entire oven
was, too. So, here's the symptoms the microwave exhibits:
The microwave will happily begin to microwave a cup of water. After
about a minute or so, the fan and the turntable will stop. The light
stays on, and the counter keeps going. If I stop the microwave cycle
and let the oven cool down, I can start it up again, for about another
minute. So, I opened it up, and checked the usual suspects (fuse,
interlock switches, etc.) The primary interlock switch was always
open, so I replaced it. That didn't fix anything. All of the
switches appear to be making good contact with the actuators on the
door. There are two thermal protectors. Both offer a resistance of
zero, and according to the schematic (and the actual wire routing) if
either opened, it would kill power to the entire oven--so I know that
they are not at fault here. The magnetron does become hot to the
touch, but it's not _that_ (135 degrees centigrade) hot.
As far as I can tell, the only thing left to be at fault is the
relays, that are located on the controller board. I'm a little leery
of testing the relays on it with the oven live--especially because the
warning labels clearly state that the step-down transformer will give
me a jolt. There is a burn mark on the PCB in the center, but the
resistors, diodes, and caps in that area all test fine.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

--Chris

 

[RST Engineering (jw)]

Obama's Middle Name Controversy...

I don't know why all the fuss.

Isn't Robin Hood a perfectly good middle name ?

...Jim Thompson

This one went RIGHT OVER my little pointed head.

Jim

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

"RST Engineering (jw)" wrote:

Obama's Middle Name Controversy...

I don't know why all the fuss.

Isn't Robin Hood a perfectly good middle name ?

...Jim Thompson

This one went RIGHT OVER my little pointed head.

Jim

Rob the rich, give to the poor.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[jakdedert]

francesco.messineo@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,
this looks like a japanese transistor (same case of the 2sd973 for
example), marked as N1215 '95 ('95 could be a date code).
Can anyone help me identifying it? Looks like open circuit.
Thanks in advance

Francesco IZ8DWF

Usually when written like this, there is an implied '2' in front, ie 2N1215.

jak

 

[N Cook]

jakdedert <jakdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:9FEyj.2174$Fs5.1042@bignews2.bellsouth.net...

francesco.messineo@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
this looks like a japanese transistor (same case of the 2sd973 for
example), marked as N1215 '95 ('95 could be a date code).
Can anyone help me identifying it? Looks like open circuit.
Thanks in advance

Francesco IZ8DWF

Usually when written like this, there is an implied '2' in front, ie
2N1215.

jak

If 1995 unlikely Ge 2N1215
Could it be a Russian Cyrillic "N" ?
Definitely low power transistor casing ? eg < 1A


--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/

 

[JosephKK]

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:18:56 -0800, "MooseFET" <kensmith@rahul.net>
wrote:

"MooseFET" <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote in message
news:fq8hpc$hke$1@aioe.org...

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:14:54 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Joerg,

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:QlJxj.3261$pl4.18@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
But don't you guys use OrCad? I used to, but not anymore.

Yeah, for production stuff we do. I definitely don't *like* that fact,
but
we're in the (not so uncommon) situation that we have a number of ORCAD
licenses that were purchased years ago so switching requires...

1) Outlay of "new purchase price" for the alternative rather than just
shelling out maintenance every year
2) Conversion of current library parts over to new system
3) Re-training of engineers & techs to use the new system

ORCAD is spendy enough that #1 isn't too big of a problem, and our
libraries
still only have hundreds (not thousands) of symbols in them so changeover
there isn't too bad (I wouldn't imagine it'd be more than a month's
effort),
but #3 is difficult to get by some people since they're so used to ORCAD,
they
don't really see its shortcomings, and they're not personally footing the
bill
for it. (I think there's often a "bell curve of happiness" associated
with
mediocre software... new users have problems with everything, regular but
undemanding users are happy because they don't stress the tool much so it
works OK, whereas advanced/demanding users are unhappy again because they
realize that there are so many better options out there).

Sometime this year I'm planning on making a proper (formal) presentation
comparing ORCAD with, e.g., Pulsonix. We'll see what happens...

Heck, is Autotrax still around? That used to be pretty good and I bet
it
won't be expensive anymore.

Autotrax or AutoTRAX? Wikipedia discusses two of them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutoTRAX_EDA

---Joel

P.S. -- Vaguely related story about software quality: I have a friend who
works for a Big Software Company. In general he says that their most
sophisticated users and bug reports come from Europe. They had one guy
in
the
U.K. who was constantly filling bug reports with them -- it was almost
uncanny
how "good" he was at discovering them. At some point it dawned on them
that... hey... this would be a very useful guy to hire! They offered, he
accepted, and now he's working here in Oregon. It turns out this fellow
has
been using the software package in question for longer than anyone who's
currently on staff at the company (!), and he has an excellent memory,
being
able to provide in-depth comparisons and contrasts of the package and
what's
been changed and fixed/broken in it for the past decade. Amazing...


Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't.

I literally buried the PSpice support people in accurate bug
reports/"issues".

They thanked me profusely and did nothing.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave



Are you * NI(national instrument) software going on sales lately? That's
an
indication that you dumass going down... Heehee......Halleluiah. Shame on
you arrogant people.



The above was a test to see if the war bastards can fill in the missing
words. Evidently they gave up, the missing words are "aware of"

Yo imposter. We most certainly saw it. Most are ignoring or blocking
you already. Your little act is over, go away forever.

 

[William Sommerwerck]

The microwave will happily begin to microwave a cup of water.
After about a minute or so, the fan and the turntable will stop.
The light stays on, and the counter keeps going.

What powers the stirrer and turntable? Do they have their own power supply
separate from everything else?

Does the magenetron continue to operate?

PS: Thanks for giving a clear description of what happened and what you did.
Most people don't!

 

[William Sommerwerck]

The microwave will happily begin to microwave a cup of water.
After about a minute or so, the fan and the turntable will stop.
The light stays on, and the counter keeps going.

What powers the stirrer and turntable? Do they have their own power supply
separate from everything else?

Does the magenetron continue to operate?

PS: Thanks for giving a clear description of what happened and what you did.
Most people don't!