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[cupra]

Lordy.UK wrote:

Don't get any cheapo set unless you wan to to go shopping again
in 16 months time.

Oh look, bullshit.
How quaint !

I always quote my anecdote of my decade old (or more) Beko I've got that's
still running strong!

 

[kip]

Diagnose the convergence section.

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"Raventy" <ano316gamer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1118848508.987098.132400@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Hey guys, I have a 50" projection screen arcade machine but one of the
things I noticed with the screen is that these red and blue outlines
appear around things(see image) anyone know whats up with that and how
to fix it? PICTURE OF SCREEN: http://home.comcast.net/~ano316gamer/gl.JPG Thanks!

 

[Don Bowey]

On 6/15/05 7:23 AM, in article 3ccc5$42b037cc$4304c63c$490@DIALUPUSA.NET,
"Bud" <remove.BudNews@isp.com> wrote:

Don Lancaster has written many articles for electronics magazines. Also
regular columns for several electronics magazines (probably still
running). One of his books (CMOS cookbook) was a standard for many
years. You might be able to learn something from him too.

Bud--

John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:41:47 -0700, Don Bowey <dbowey@comcast.net
wrote:

He [Don Lancaster] has tutorials? You've got to be kidding.

John

The quoted posts were not as you have posted them. They did not include the
"[Don Lancaster)."

Shame on you, Bud.

Don

 

[Richard Colton]

"b" <reverend_rogers@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Richard Colton wrote:

"b" <reverend_rogers@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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David FitzGerald wrote:
It's an KV24LS35.
I had a guy around to look at it, said it would cost about Ł100 for
the parts and Ł70 for labour, and even then there is another part
that could be broken which he would not be able to tell if it was or
not until he replaced the first one. So it would be Ł170 to see if it
worked, and possibly another Ł80.
A bin job, basically.
So, now to either get an ultra cheap crapo TV, or a TFT which I will
put into the bedroom when the plasma fund matures

Don't get any cheapo set unless you wan to to go shopping again in 16
months time.

Here we go with the crap advice again! Go and look up The Sale Of Goods
Act
(visiting RETRA's website would be a good idea as well) and you'll soon
see
why any TV should last considerably longer than sixteen months, and the
legal remedies you have should it not do so.

If we're talking "crap advice" here, then it's your standard line
:spouting off about the SOGA ,

Which you always manage to neglect. If you choose not to exercise your
rights, or even acknowledge their existance, then that's your prerogative -
but they do exist.

taking people to court etc etc. which
all sounds fine in theory but in practise entails complications,
expense and time.

It usually doesn't involve taking anyone to Court, but that option is there
should it be required.

Change the record!

Why? You and a small handful of other posters seem to believe that all
budget TV's absolutely WILL break down just out of the twelve month
manufacturer warranty:-

1. The vast majority last significantly longer than that.
2. Even if you're unlucky enough to get one that expire prematurely, you DO
have legal recourse.

All of that could be saved in the
first place through careful buying to reduce the chances of your having
to pursue such a legal avenue.

Don't talk absolute drivel. Any TV from any manufacturer can expire due to
a fault at any time. Your rights are almost identical regardless of how
much you've paid for the set in the first place. I'll agree that *some*
higher end sets are built to higher standards and *possibly* may last longer
than a cheapo supermarket special. But, if ALL (or even most) of the cheap
sets expired within sixteen months, you'd find that no-one would sell them
due to the hassle from irate customers. You have to balance cost against
performance - cheap sets generally are weak in the sound department with a
tinny sound when compared to say a Panasonic, and their picture quality
isn't always quite as good, but there most definately is a market for them
(and a big market at that).

And, to get back to the original issue: not attempting to repair a half
decent TV ( which for all we know *could* be a question of replacing a
few off-the-shelf components of little cost), and instead condemning it
to the landfill, is not only environmentally unsustainable, it is
downright stupid.

I agree unless the repair doesn't make economical sense.

You're operating on a large set of assumptions and suppositions. I'm just
trying to point out that there are other options and legal recourse if
necessary.

--

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[John Fields]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:48:44 GMT, Pig Bladder
<pigbladder@neodruid.net> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:44:34 -0700, Kitchen Man wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 03:36:15 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

It
is my belief that the widespread disagreement is due to participants
that just like to argue a lot.

---
No, they don't. ;^)

Look, this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction!

No, it's not! ;^j

---
Yes, it is!^)

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Alex Butcher]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:31:11 -0700, b wrote:

And, to get back to the original issue: not attempting to repair a half
decent TV ( which for all we know *could* be a question of replacing a few
off-the-shelf components of little cost), and instead condemning it to the
landfill, is not only environmentally unsustainable, it is downright
stupid.

Agreed; I repaired a Ferguson/Thomson VCR for about an hour of my time and
just over 3GBP worth of capacitors from Maplin.

I wouldn't recommend that a novice go meddling in the insides of TVs or
power supplies (there are some very high voltages present that can persist
even some time after being disconnected from the mains!) but based on the
information you gave David in your earlier post, he should be able to find
a competetent engineer to blindly replace the parts you specified for
30GBP or so, including labour. If it doesn't work out, you're only down
30GBP. If it does, you've just "bought" a Sony widescreen TV for 30GBP.
Bargain.

-B.

Best Regards,
Alex.
--
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Bristol, UK Need reliable and secure network systems?
PGP/GnuPG ID:0x271fd950 <http://www.assursys.com/>

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:49:34 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

---
Not at all. I'm always grateful when someone takes the time to
correct me and show me where I went wrong, since that increases my
store of stuff I know is right.

John, you can't have it both ways. You say the above is what you
do, but what you actually *do* is the next paragraph:

---
IKYABWAI? Come on Floyd, you can do better than that. Or can you?
---

But when a self-important know-nothing windbag like you comes along
making baseless proclamations and spouting opinions like they were
gospel it _does_ annoy me.

John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
^^^^^^^^^^^^

When will that begin?

Yeah, that's clever; attack the dotsig.

In an effort to find out a little more about you, I checked Google's
archives and here's one interesting article posted a year or so ago
which I found right away:

<BEGIN QUOTE>

eug...@cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) wrote:

In article <FwA3c.82935$6K.29...@nwrddc02­.gnilink.net>,
Jim Roberts <jim...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
I've never met Floyd, though I'd like to. He thinks he knows a lot more
than he really does. He used to harrass me. I checked out some his
most aggressive assertions that I wasn't completely sure about with
aurhorities, and he came up pretty dry. Yet, he's likely to be an
interesting person, so long as you don't listen to him too attentively.

<END QUOTE>

So, it seems, a leopard can't change his spots...

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Bill S]

In article <1118419572.093791.320890@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
dharrisfc@my-deja.com says...

TV dead after lightning. Line fuse OK. Diode (board number) 6560
shorted. That's all I have found so far.

Replaced the diode with ECG598. Pushed the power button and heard the
click of death. Replacement diode again shorted.

6560 is the main supply (140V) rectifier. Check 7460 HOT and
other stuff on the main supply. Schematic is available only
on the Philips service CD, unless you can sweet-talk someone
into sending it to their printer.

 

[Floyd L. Davidson]

Don Bowey <dbowey@comcast.net> wrote:

On 6/15/05 7:23 AM, in article 3ccc5$42b037cc$4304c63c$490@DIALUPUSA.NET,
"Bud" <remove.BudNews@isp.com> wrote:

Don Lancaster has written many articles for electronics magazines. Also
regular columns for several electronics magazines (probably still
running). One of his books (CMOS cookbook) was a standard for many
years. You might be able to learn something from him too.

Bud--

John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:41:47 -0700, Don Bowey <dbowey@comcast.net
wrote:

He [Don Lancaster] has tutorials? You've got to be kidding.

John


The quoted posts were not as you have posted them. They did not include the
"[Don Lancaster)."

Shame on you, Bud.

The standard English syntax for inserting edited text into a
quote, usually to show meaning that deleted context made clear,
is to enclose it between said square brackets.

Which is to say that, while not commonly used on Usenet, Bud's
quote is proper style. If you read newspapers or news magazines
you will see it used often.

--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@barrow.com

 

[Larry Brasfield]

Quotes in this post have been edited by application of
the DERF transform, whereby Dreck, Extraneousness,
Redundancy, and Foolishness are replaced with "[DERF]".

"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in
message news:42AFE560.9020307@nospam.com...

Larry Brasfield wrote:
"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in
message news:42AF80AE.4040001@nospam.com...

Larry Brasfield wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:45rua15vf6p6nrmk81jr3cbf9717jq1aiu@4ax.com...


Since this a technical forum and we _do_ have ground rules, I believe
we generally agree that, unless otherwise specified, standard pressure
is defined as 760 millimeters of mercury and standard temperature is
defined as zero degrees celcius.

I believe that in this forum we assume temperature is a
variable that must be accommodated in design, unless
otherwise stated. I cannot imagine why any unstated
temperature would be assumed to be 0 oC. I suppose
sea-level atmospheric pressure is often assumed, but
where it matters, it should not be assumed at all.

While the boiling point of water is dependent on pressure, the
freezing point, I believe, is not.

You might want to consider the "triple point" of water,
below which pressure "melting point" is meaningless and
the "freezing point" varies considerably with pressure.

At least, not to a great extent. I don't have any data to support
that position, but I'd love to see some, if it's out there.

See: http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/phase.html

Using the usual meaning of "freezing" which is the transition from liquid to solid, that graph shows "freezing" occurring at 273K
over a million to one range in pressure.

It does not. The straight part of the liquid/solid phase
boundary covers less than 5 orders of magnitude. "Over a
million to one" would be more than 6 orders of magnitude.

Bull- it goes from 10^3 to 10^9 Pa, idiot.

You have now demonstrated yourself to be either an idiot,
blind, or a liar. Not does the straight portion of that curve
fail to reach 10^9 Pa, no part of it reaches that pressure.

I would say that the statement "While the boiling point of water is dependent on pressure, the freezing point, I believe, is not"
is essentially true

In a discussion that has involved sublimation, to exclude
that part of the phase space would be essentially silly.

There is no discussion-

Actually, John's post to which I first responded in this
thread, mentioned "sublimation". So, again, ignoring
that whole phase change boundary would be silly.

the statement was about water "freezing",

The conversion of water vapor into ice is "freezing".
You cannot, by assertion and fiat, eliminate that part of
water's phase space. In your typically parochial manner,
you appear to confuse your familiarity with one meaning
of the word with comphrehensive knowledge. Anybody
less certain that they know everything can find several
additional meanings, including my usage, at:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=freeze&x=14&y=9

[DERF]

Have you ever considered why you are so prone to
spewing so much self-revealing vitriol?

--
--Larry Brasfield
email: donotspam_larry_brasfield@hotmail.com
Above views may belong only to me.

 

[NSM]

"Ardamerr" <siphax@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1118824790.029688.235960@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Hi Guys... What if the message is correct? One may consider this
newsgroup to be an inappropriate place for such a posting, but what if
the motive of the person who posted it is true and honourable? Surely
if God uses men to reach other men and He promted the posting of this
message then it seems entirely reasonable that one should address the
message and not attack the one who posted it!

What if the newsgroup is flooded with such messages from every religion
which has ever existed on the planet? The real problem is that the shitbag
who posts these messages does it anonymously and never reads the newsgroup.
Maybe we should copy all our messages to every religion NG in case one of
the readers needs to fix his TV or coffee maker.

N

 

[Floyd L. Davidson]

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:49:34 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

---
Not at all. I'm always grateful when someone takes the time to
correct me and show me where I went wrong, since that increases my
store of stuff I know is right.

John, you can't have it both ways. You say the above is what you
do, but what you actually *do* is the next paragraph:

---
IKYABWAI? Come on Floyd, you can do better than that. Or can you?
---

But when a self-important know-nothing windbag like you comes along
making baseless proclamations and spouting opinions like they were
gospel it _does_ annoy me.

John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
^^^^^^^^^^^^

When will that begin?

Yeah, that's clever; attack the dotsig.

In an effort to find out a little more about you, I checked Google's
archives and here's one interesting article posted a year or so ago
which I found right away:

BEGIN QUOTE

eug...@cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) wrote:
In article <FwA3c.82935$6K.29...@nwrddc02­.gnilink.net>,
Jim Roberts <jim...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
I've never met Floyd, though I'd like to. He thinks he knows a lot more
than he really does. He used to harrass me. I checked out some his
most aggressive assertions that I wasn't completely sure about with
aurhorities, and he came up pretty dry. Yet, he's likely to be an
interesting person, so long as you don't listen to him too attentively.

END QUOTE

So, it seems, a leopard can't change his spots...

What did Eugene have to say? And tell me, do you know who Jim
Roberts and Eugene Miya are?

If we have you using Roberts as a supporting witness, and Eugene
(yes Eugene and I have met) as mine... you do realize that
you're off the deep end again? (Roberts is somewhat of a net
loon. Eugene Miya is a net legend.)

You've proven that you aren't the first twit that I've poked
enough to cause erruption of tantrums. You can't say I didn't
warn you not to try a flame war...

--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@barrow.com

 

[Kevin Aylward]

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:32:21 +0000, Kevin Aylward wrote:
John Fields wrote:
...
But when a self-important know-nothing windbag like you comes along
making baseless proclamations and spouting opinions like they were
gospel it _does_ annoy me.

Er..the gospels are the biggest pile of erroneous nonsense one can
come up with. Its all about those imaginary beings, that can do
anything, be everywhere at once, knows everything etc...

Hey! Let's not knock the imaginary!

Where would electronics be today without sqrt(-1)? ;-)

sqrt(-1) is just as imaginary as 1 is.

Kevin Aylward
informationEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.

 

[Kevin Aylward]

John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:48:44 GMT, Pig Bladder
pigbladder@neodruid.net> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:44:34 -0700, Kitchen Man wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 03:36:15 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

It
is my belief that the widespread disagreement is due to
participants that just like to argue a lot.

---
No, they don't. ;^)

Look, this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction!

No, it's not! ;^j

---
Yes, it is!^)

No it isnt. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to
establish a proposition...

next...


Kevin Aylward
informationEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:09:04 GMT, "Kevin Aylward"
<see_website@anasoft.co.uk> wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:48:44 GMT, Pig Bladder
pigbladder@neodruid.net> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:44:34 -0700, Kitchen Man wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 03:36:15 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

It
is my belief that the widespread disagreement is due to
participants that just like to argue a lot.

---
No, they don't. ;^)

Look, this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction!

No, it's not! ;^j

---
Yes, it is!^)

No it isnt. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to
establish a proposition...

next...

---
I guess you missed the part about that I was disagreeing with Pig
Bladder about his contention that it wasn't just contradiction.

next...

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:30:33 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

Don Bowey <dbowey@comcast.net> wrote:
On 6/15/05 7:23 AM, in article 3ccc5$42b037cc$4304c63c$490@DIALUPUSA.NET,
"Bud" <remove.BudNews@isp.com> wrote:

Don Lancaster has written many articles for electronics magazines. Also
regular columns for several electronics magazines (probably still
running). One of his books (CMOS cookbook) was a standard for many
years. You might be able to learn something from him too.

Bud--

John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:41:47 -0700, Don Bowey <dbowey@comcast.net
wrote:

He [Don Lancaster] has tutorials? You've got to be kidding.

John


The quoted posts were not as you have posted them. They did not include the
"[Don Lancaster)."

Shame on you, Bud.

The standard English syntax for inserting edited text into a
quote, usually to show meaning that deleted context made clear,
is to enclose it between said square brackets.

Nothing was deleted!

Which is to say that, while not commonly used on Usenet, Bud's
quote is proper style. If you read newspapers or news magazines
you will see it used often.

The style may be proper by your standards - certainly not mine - but
the [content] is dead wrong. Nowhere did I refer to Don. We were
talking about The Phantom.

John

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:00:00 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

So, it seems, a leopard can't change his spots...

What did Eugene have to say? And tell me, do you know who Jim
Roberts and Eugene Miya are?

---
No, and I don't care. What I found was that someone, about a year
ago, pegged you for the same phony you are today. The phony, BTW, you
have proved yourself to be by making all sorts of ridiculous claims
which you later had to issue hasty disclaimers about when you were
caught.
---

If we have you using Roberts as a supporting witness, and Eugene
(yes Eugene and I have met) as mine... you do realize that
you're off the deep end again? (Roberts is somewhat of a net
loon. Eugene Miya is a net legend.)

---
Interesting. I need no "supporting witness" but, again, you seem to
have this need to latch on to someone's coat tails in order to be
considered credible. From your performance here I can certainly
understand why.
---

You've proven that you aren't the first twit that I've poked
enough to cause erruption of tantrums.

---
You either flatter yourself or you're used to playing with babies.
---

You can't say I didn't warn you not to try a flame war...

---
Yeah, like a Chihuahua yapping at a Rottweiler, LOL!

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Ken Taylor]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:8q01b1p1rgln3d1ghrqc3tla2quqfpl08u@4ax.com...

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:09:04 GMT, "Kevin Aylward"
see_website@anasoft.co.uk> wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:48:44 GMT, Pig Bladder
pigbladder@neodruid.net> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:44:34 -0700, Kitchen Man wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 03:36:15 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

It
is my belief that the widespread disagreement is due to
participants that just like to argue a lot.

---
No, they don't. ;^)

Look, this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction!

No, it's not! ;^j

---
Yes, it is!^)

No it isnt. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to
establish a proposition...

next...

---
I guess you missed the part about that I was disagreeing with Pig
Bladder about his contention that it wasn't just contradiction.

next...

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

No he didn't.

Ken

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Kevin Aylward" <see_website@anasoft.co.uk> wrote in message
news:k1%re.27733$n_6.22769@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

John Fields wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:48:44 GMT, Pig Bladder
pigbladder@neodruid.net> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:44:34 -0700, Kitchen Man wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 03:36:15 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

It
is my belief that the widespread disagreement is due to
participants that just like to argue a lot.

---
No, they don't. ;^)

Look, this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction!

No, it's not! ;^j

---
Yes, it is!^)

No it isnt. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to
establish a proposition...

next...


Kevin Aylward

Sorry, your time's up.......

Ken

 

[Fred Abse]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:09:04 +0000, Kevin Aylward wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:48:44 GMT, Pig Bladder
pigbladder@neodruid.net> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:44:34 -0700, Kitchen Man wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 03:36:15 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

It
is my belief that the widespread disagreement is due to
participants that just like to argue a lot.

---
No, they don't. ;^)

Look, this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction!

No, it's not! ;^j

---
Yes, it is!^)

No it isnt. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to
establish a proposition...

next...

Is this the five-minute argument, or the full half hour?


"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)