Toshiba TV29C90 problem; Image fades to black...

Has this TV always displayed overscan ?
If not the TV is developing a Fault and needs to be repaired.

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Hi all.
The picture on my Etrom 84cm Tv is slightly to big(vertically)
Watching the England vs Australia(Pro 20) last night I could not see
the score at the bottom of the screen properly.
I need to get into the service mode to adjust the vertical height
slightly.
Anyone know how to get into this mode?
Cheers
Rob
 
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:23:46 -0400 "rainbow" <rain.bowwwwt.net> wrote in
Message id: <B5SdnQlIPYGWLjDfRVn-rA@rogers.com>:

God is an almighty spirit, who cannot be seen, but knows all things
about us.

Proof please, or shut the fuck up.
If he has proof then by all means post it- but in a relevant group, you can
go there to read it since you are so interested and giving encouragment.
This is not a relevant group.
 
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:32:09 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:14:42 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:

Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
Danged, several weeks of work shot because it just hadn't
occurred to him that ni-cad would boil at room temperature.

I doubt that it *boils* at room temperature; evaporates slowly, maybe. At least, not at
the temperature of any rooms I've been in.

Oh, it boiled off!

So, tell me, what is the vapor pressure of Cadmium at 20 degrees C?

I don't know. Look it up.

Takes a nice little vaccuum pump to do it though.

---
Yer fulla shit.
Well John, it probably was cadmium plating, not ni-cad. And I'm
not sure what the actual temperature was, though it certainly
wasn't much above room temperature (the experiment failed before
it was exposed to significant nuclear radiation, which would
have provided heat).

However, the metal plating on the hardware boiled!

Here's a chart you might want to look at. Note the relative
vapor pressure of cadmium compared to other metals. Then think
about "a nice little vacuum pump".

http://www.veeco.com/learning/learning_vaporelements.asp

My point, since it went right over your head when stated as a
puzzle, is that temperature alone is not what defines when
something "boils", and some materials that you wouldn't normally
think of in terms of a vapor can in fact "boil". "Out-gas"
might be a better term.

--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@barrow.com
 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:44:13 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:01:12 -0700, The Phantom <phantom@aol.com
wrote:


Total and utter horseshit.

"DC" is simply the first (or "offset" term in the Fourier expression of
any repetitive waveform.

DC, of course, cannot exist at all ever. Because it would have to be
unvarying through infinite time.


So, the first Fourier term is always zero. Got it.




Damn, this thread will hit 200 posts soon. The less the content, the
bigger the thread.
Amazing isn't it? We're actually witnessing a dispute over what AC and DC are? And
whether such things even exist?

I went looking on the IEEE website for a standard that would define the terms. There is
a standard, 100-1992 "IEEE Dictionary of Electrical and Electronics Terms" that probably
has their definition of AC and DC, but it isn't available on the web. I wonder if anybody
participating in this thread has access to it?

Even though I couldn't find the dictionary referred to above, I did look at a number of
their standards, and they are quite happy to use the terms AC and DC. I guess they don't
realize that those terms are "Total and utter horseshit". Someone should tell them!

 
"Wayneos" <wayne_m_evans@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hi,
I need to replace my smoothing capacitors in my guitar amp - they're
5000uf 50v. I tried some 4700uf 63v ones but they blew up!! I couldn't
tell the polarity of the original ones - they just had a pink dot on
one of the terminals, which I assumed was negative, so wired the new
ones accordingly. Did they blow because of the incorrect polarity
Yes. You should check with a meter first.

N
 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:54:37 -0700, Dr.Polemic wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:07:05 -0400, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote:
John Fields wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:32:09 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:
Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:14:42 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:
Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
snip
No way did he "...get ni-cad to boil at room temperature (by) simply
reduc(ing) the pressure to something *significantly* below its vapor
pressure. We did it knowingly with gold too once..."

Gold has a vapor pressure of 10^-11 torr at about 800 degrees. I don't think gold will
boil even in interstellar space (10^-17 torr) at 20 degrees. It *will* evaporate, though;
so will tungsten! Slowly!

Takes a nice little vaccuum pump to do it though.

Yer fulla shit.

I think he is confusing boiling with sputtering.

But he says it *boiled*; he couldn't be mistaken, could he?
Or maybe just sublimation. And he didn't say the chamber was held at
room temperature.

What's the vapor pressure of zinc at 20C? I once worked at a place
where their product used a UHV bell jar - that's "Ultrahigh vacuum".
They didn't even have an oil-based pump in the building. They started
with an ordinary sorption pump, then they had ion pumps and molecular
inertial pumps, and getter pumps, and the sexiest was the cryopump.

One day one of the vacuum engineers came into the shop from the line,
fit to be tied. It seems someone had supplied feedthroughs with brass
contacts. The zinc ruined some stuff, and wasted about a week from
having to clean out the bell jar.

Cheers!
Rich
 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:11:03 -0800, Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

My point, since it went right over your head when stated as a
puzzle, is that temperature alone is not what defines when
something "boils", and some materials that you wouldn't normally
think of in terms of a vapor can in fact "boil". "Out-gas"
might be a better term.
In a case like this, "out-gas" would definitely be a better term,
or even "sublimate", which means to go right from solid to gas.
Only liquids can boil, and then only when the uneven heat causes
bubbles of vapor to form. _That's_ what boiling is, regardless
of the temp., material, or anything else. You should have seen
the LN2 seethe when they opened the valve on the sorption pump!

Cheers!
Rich
 
On 6/14/05 10:58 AM, in article 3h8k5lFfsh3mU2@individual.net, "Don
Lancaster" <don@tinaja.com> wrote:

Don Bowey wrote:
No other esoteric, mindless
definitions are needed even though the terms AC and DC may be misnomers.
They are historic and work very well.

Don


The only tiny problem is that the definitions are wrong.
As with many historic terms, they may be off the mark by today's
understanding, but they are not necessarily wrong.

For example, I have no problem using the term DC even when there is no
current (flowing). Is that bad that I can assume DC is valid for static and
dynamic states? It didn't cause me any problem when I first began to learn
about electricity. How about we assume the term DC is a set with many
subsets? That beats defining DC in a manner that says if there is a
constant, never-ending load on a EMF, then it is DC, but if it is EVER
interrupted, then it never was DC but was some form of AC?

The more I learn, the more I find fault with some definitions. I find more
fault (pointing the finger nowhere specific), however, with people who want
to redefine things before they have studied long enough to understand what
they are doing.

Don (B)
 
Dr. Polemic wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:11:03 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:

Note the relative
vapor pressure of cadmium compared to other metals. Then think
about "a nice little vacuum pump".


Think about why the graphs on that web page don't go below 10^-7 torr. Then think about
cadmium's (extrapolated) vapor pressure of 10^-12 torr at 30 degrees.


http://www.veeco.com/learning/learning_vaporelements.asp
This is quite OT, but might be of interest, since we're so far OT
anyway! Note the strange behavior of mercury. This makes it possible
to use mercury vapor to make "a nice little vacuum pump". When I first
started using vacuum pumps, mercury pumps were common. They were
displaced by oil diffusion pumps and more recently by ion pumps. I
don't know of any that would make cadmium "boil" at anywhere near "room
temperature".

--
Virg Wall
 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:11:03 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:32:09 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:14:42 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:

Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
Danged, several weeks of work shot because it just hadn't
occurred to him that ni-cad would boil at room temperature.

I doubt that it *boils* at room temperature; evaporates slowly, maybe. At least, not at
the temperature of any rooms I've been in.

Oh, it boiled off!

So, tell me, what is the vapor pressure of Cadmium at 20 degrees C?

I don't know. Look it up.

Takes a nice little vaccuum pump to do it though.

---
Yer fulla shit.

Well John, it probably was cadmium plating, not ni-cad. And I'm
not sure what the actual temperature was, though it certainly
wasn't much above room temperature (the experiment failed before
it was exposed to significant nuclear radiation, which would
have provided heat).
---
So now we don't even know whether it was cadmium or not, we also don't
know what the temperature or the pressure was in the chamber, _and_
we learn that the sample was being subjected to ionizing radiation!

What next?
---

However, the metal plating on the hardware boiled!
Uh-huh... sure it did.
---

Here's a chart you might want to look at. Note the relative
vapor pressure of cadmium compared to other metals. Then think
about "a nice little vacuum pump".

http://www.veeco.com/learning/learning_vaporelements.asp

My point, since it went right over your head when stated as a
puzzle, is that temperature alone is not what defines when
something "boils", and some materials that you wouldn't normally
think of in terms of a vapor can in fact "boil". "Out-gas"
might be a better term.
---
Blah, blah, blah, fucking blah.
More posturing, platitudes and crapola.

'Outgassing' is an entirely different phenomenon which manifests
itself as the extraction of gas entrained in a material by and into a
vacuum surrounding the gassy material. A good example is the frothing
that occurs when a two-part epoxy is mixed and then placed in a
vacuum. After the release of the gas and the collapse of the froth,
it would still be possible for the epoxy to boil in the vacuum if the
vacuum were hard enough and the temperature high enough, but that
would then be true boiling and _not_ outgassing.

Just so you won't have to extrapolate to 20°C from those charts of
yours, here's Dr. Polemic's data:

"The CRC handbook indicates that the vapor pressure of cadmium is
about 10^-12 torr at room temperature (20 degrees). This is better
than the vacuum at the moon. The best vacuum pumps available today
can't hit that in a bell jar, much less 40 years ago."

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
 
Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
The information on this web page doesn't indicate directly what the vapor pressure of
cadmium is at 20 degrees, but extrapolating the numbers in the table gives a value of
10^-12 torr at 30 degrees. It takes more than a "nice little vacuum pump" to achieve
this. But I see that you're waffling now; you now say that "I'm not sure what the actual
temperature was".
I said it was 40 years ago! And I make *no* claims about any
absolute accuracy of any specific detail. I'm *not* making a
point of what the specific material was, what the exact
temperature was, what the exact pressure was.

I appreciate corrections to what would obviously have to be the
correct parameters. Clearly at 70 some degrees C cadmium will
out-gas if the pressure is down to 10^-8 Torr.

The point was about apparently solid things simply vaporizing
without being raised to some significantly high temperature,
because *pressure* is just as significant. And the results can
come as an expensive surprise too.

The idea that water boils at 100C and freezes at 0C, without
some mention of pressure, has little meaning. Water can "boil"
at 0C too.

--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@barrow.com
 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:44:02 -0700, Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:11:03 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:32:09 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:14:42 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:

Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
Danged, several weeks of work shot because it just hadn't
occurred to him that ni-cad would boil at room temperature.

I doubt that it *boils* at room temperature; evaporates slowly, maybe. At least, not at
the temperature of any rooms I've been in.

Oh, it boiled off!

So, tell me, what is the vapor pressure of Cadmium at 20 degrees C?

I don't know. Look it up.

Takes a nice little vaccuum pump to do it though.

---
Yer fulla shit.

Well John, it probably was cadmium plating, not ni-cad. And I'm
not sure what the actual temperature was, though it certainly
wasn't much above room temperature (the experiment failed before
it was exposed to significant nuclear radiation, which would
have provided heat).

However, the metal plating on the hardware boiled!

Here's a chart you might want to look at.

The information on this web page doesn't indicate directly what the vapor pressure of
cadmium is at 20 degrees, but extrapolating the numbers in the table gives a value of
10^-12 torr at 30 degrees. It takes more than a "nice little vacuum pump" to achieve
this. But I see that you're waffling now; you now say that "I'm not sure what the actual
temperature was". I would certainly agree that cadmium can be made to boil if the
temperature is high enough, but you claimed "room temperature". One thing is pretty
certain; you weren't "boiling" cadmium at 20 degrees because you have to get the pressure
below the vapor pressure of cadmium at 20 degrees before it "boils" and a "nice little
vacuum pump" of 40 years ago couldn't do that under a bell jar.


Note the relative
vapor pressure of cadmium compared to other metals. Then think
about "a nice little vacuum pump".

Think about why the graphs on that web page don't go below 10^-7 torr. Then think about
cadmium's (extrapolated) vapor pressure of 10^-12 torr at 30 degrees.


http://www.veeco.com/learning/learning_vaporelements.asp

My point, since it went right over your head

Did this go over your head, John?

when stated as a
puzzle, is that temperature alone is not what defines when
something "boils", and some materials that you wouldn't normally
think of in terms of a vapor can in fact "boil". "Out-gas"
might be a better term.
---
Not at all. Even Betty Crocker (last time I looked) had baking
altitude adjustments on her boxes of cake mix.

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
 
apparently you have not seen the equations governing reactance to make the
statements you do about

deh said
the "AC" equations are rigorous, and
apply equally well to your one-voltage DC when the frequency drops to
zero-
the reactance term of the changing magnitude [current equation] then goes
to zero.

fld said
That is an hilarious idea! If the magnitude is zero all the way
around... we aren't talking about AC or DC... maybe about
blown breakers or taking a coffee break, but not about current.
nor have you ever designed a switch carrying power loads, to say that in
non-DC rated switches, arc quenching does not rely on current reversal.
Or to ground fault design, I might add.

deh said
Because the reactance equations only apply to varying magnitude, and they
do
not apply to reversing direction.

fld said
Then why would we be concerned at all about this reversing
direction, and give it a specific name and have a whole separate
field of study for it? Sounds like we need to be concerned with
varying magnitude, *not* with reversing direction. (Which is
what I've been saying...)
As I said, your position works only if you are in one corner of one part of
all electrical phenomena, and if you use technicians tools rather than
engineers and scientists tools.

You will just have to live with what the big boys in academia say is
alternating current - they are not going to change the widely applicable
proven rigorous for a circuit design technician's philosophical musings.

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"--" <dehoberg@comcast.com> wrote:
"Floyd L. Davidson" <floyd@barrow.com> wrote:
"--" <dehoberg@comcast.com> wrote:
Strictly speaking, I believe the reactance (part of impedance)
equations apply to any variation in current magnitude. Their
appropriate
application does not in any way require reversing the charge.

Exactly.

1) I think one needs to define the term "alternating current" by its
phenomena rather than define it by what applies to "AC". In other
words,
define AC as alternating current -rather than defining AC as "anything
requiring an impedance calculation because of its magnitude
variation".

What value does that have? The problem is circuit analysis,

No, rather the problem is that many of the fundamental physical sciences
and
most of electrical engineering use the concept, and it is not used merely
by
a small corner of circuit analysis. The definition has to work for all
the
sciences where it may be used.
E.g., many switches use the "AC as reversing" concept for quenching
contact arcs during switching (as the current passes thru zero as
direction
reverses) and the defintion of AC as varying DC falls flat for that
purpose.
Install an AC designed switch on a varying DC circuit, and you may well
have
a safety switch contacts welded shut. Here, AC DEFINITELY means reversing
direction.

Bad example. That does *not* require a direction reversal. All
it requires is understanding that it is relative to the static
state.
you really don't know much about power switches, do you?

It does happen that the static state in that specific case is
when a polarity reversal takes place, but in the general case it
is not required. In other examples both sides of the switch
might well be at some DC potential, that happens to be equal on
both sides at the time the switch is made, even though there is
no direction reversal.

which requires the division between DC and AC,

I believe the equations are not DC-AC specific - the "AC" term drops
to
zero if the change in magnitude drops to zero. Your rationale of using
the
equations does not hold up.

Everything concerned with reactance is AC specific. Nothing
concerned with reactance requires a polarity reversal.
Reactance is the essence of the difference between DC and AC,
not some notion of reversing polarity.

AC is defined as:

charge flow that changes direction.

which leaves the calculations for reactance out of the definition.

Which means it is worthless. Reactance *is* the significance.

3) In the definition approach to a phenomena, one deals with the
descriptive term and the phenomena itself and ignores the present
attached

The problem is defining something with no practical value.

We define air, and black holes, and impracticality.

All of which *does* have practical value.

And if memory serves me correctly, the "AC" equations are rigorous,
and
apply equally well to your one-voltage DC when the frequerncy drops to
zero-
the reactance term of the changing magnitude goes to zero.

That is an hilarious idea! If the magnitude is zero all the way
around... we aren't talking about AC or DC... maybe about
blown breakers or taking a coffee break, but not about current.

And "varying DC" is a contradiction in terms to begin with. Do
we actually need *four* states:

1 -- DC
2 -- Varying DC
3 -- AC
4 -- Steady AC

no, just two - reversing flow direction, and varying magnitude.

Oh? DC doesn't exist? What about "steady AC"? (That's two
exactly equal signals 180 degrees out of phase, combined in that
capacitor which can generate AC mentioned by John Fields,
perhaps???)

Because the reactance equations only apply to varying magnitude, and they
do
not apply to reversing direction.

Then why would we be concerned at all about this reversing
direction, and give it a specific name and have a whole separate
field of study for it? Sounds like we need to be concerned with
varying magnitude, *not* with reversing direction. (Which is
what I've been saying...)

As I understood, scienctific method is designed to remove personal
views
from science. Thus the definition,must stand alone, and since we can't
see
all that is ahead, science has to fall in behind a definition of that
phenomena in pure terms.

imho.......

A nice goal.

----------------

Alternating-direction Current, aka Alternating Current

Except that alternating direction has no significance. Changing
magnitude does. Why bother with alternating-direction at all,
it is just an insignificant, though interesting, part of the
more general case of changing magnitude. All of the same
equations apply.

Direction-specific Current, aka Direct Current.

And if you claim that only alternating direction current is AC,
then you have to have two sets of equations for DC, one for
non-varying magnitude and one for varying magnitude.

That doesn't make a lick of sense.

--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@barrow.com
 
Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:12:33 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:15:06 -0800, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:


I knew a fellow one time who put together a nice little
experiment where he bolted everything together with nice shiny
nickel-cadmium plated screws.

---
Nickel-cadmium usually refers to the metals used in fabricating a
family of secondary cells used in redchargeable batteries, while
cadmium, by itself, was once used to plate mechanical fasteners.

Just one more inconsistency in his postings. I didn't even mention
the nickel component
in his alleged plating because it, like gold, has a vapor pressure of
about 10^-11 torr at around 800 degrees, and thus won't boil at 20
degrees even in interstellar space.

But I think you're right. I've never heard of Nickel-cadmium plating
of screws, but I
used to use cad plated hardware all the time.

It
has dropped out of favor and its use may now be prohibited for that
purpose due to its toxicity and effect on the environment.
Yea, I'd have to call BS on that one...

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"--" <dehoberg@comcast.com> wrote:
apparently you have not seen the equations governing reactance to make the
statements you do about
Your descriptions apply to *your* comments, not mine!

deh said
the "AC" equations are rigorous, and
apply equally well to your one-voltage DC when the frequency drops to zero-
the reactance term of the changing magnitude [current equation] then goes to zero.

fld said
That is an hilarious idea! If the magnitude is zero all the way
around... we aren't talking about AC or DC... maybe about
blown breakers or taking a coffee break, but not about current.

nor have you ever designed a switch carrying power loads, to say that in
non-DC rated switches, arc quenching does not rely on current reversal.
Or to ground fault design, I might add.
So your one single point of exposure defines the entire field?

I don't think so at all. You are trying to say that specific
instance is the general case. I was saying that it isn't, and
that the general case is *much* larger.

deh said
Because the reactance equations only apply to varying magnitude, and they do
not apply to reversing direction.

fld said
Then why would we be concerned at all about this reversing
direction, and give it a specific name and have a whole separate
field of study for it? Sounds like we need to be concerned with
varying magnitude, *not* with reversing direction. (Which is
what I've been saying...)


As I said, your position works only if you are in one corner of one part of
all electrical phenomena, and if you use technicians tools rather than
engineers and scientists tools.
That describes *your* position very well!

You will just have to live with what the big boys in academia say is
alternating current - they are not going to change the widely applicable
proven rigorous for a circuit design technician's philosophical musings.
Actually, getting too deep into either one, or into any single
field in either one, is what causes these assumptions like
yours, that specific instances are the entire general case.

One of the problems with academia, for example, is this
specialization. Whereas someone who works in the field runs
into whatever each project coughs up. The exposure is
significantly greater. And no that does not mean that academics
is bad, wrong, poor, unnecessary, less that useful or any other
silly thing you are likely to try twisting it into. It does
mean that it necessarily, for any one individual, has a narrower
scope, and people with field experience have a broader view,
generally (which also often lacks as much depth too). Both are
necessary.

"Floyd L. Davidson" <floyd@barrow.com> wrote:
Bad example. That does *not* require a direction reversal. All
it requires is understanding that it is relative to the static
state.

you really don't know much about power switches, do you?
Well, I certainly do lack depth in that particular subject! But
knowing about power switches doesn't define understanding AC vs
DC, even if that is your field of expertise. In fact, it might
be the cause of your confusion.

Power switches may in fact operate at the moment of direction
reversal, but that is merely one specific example of the broader
"relative to the static state" general description that I gave.
The switch can happen at any time there is no current flow (or
rather, when the phase angle and rate of change is appropriate)
across the "contacts". But that can be at some DC potential
which is equal on both sides of the switch, or at a zero
voltage, either of which is *not* at a current direction
reversal. Maybe those circumstances don't happen with AC
distribution power switching, but they most certainly do in
other fields.

The requirement is *not* that a direction reversal be taking
place. That is just a collateral circumstance that happens to
exist in AC power distribution systems at the same time the
necessary phase relationship exists.

The very same general principle is used in video switching...
except not at a time when there is any change in current
direction!

--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@barrow.com
 
<bandyaggroup@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
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one more observation, the UPs systems do not take neutral etc and the
three phsaes when have a fuse blown in any phase shall see a overload
for other two and the protection device shall trip etc in my acse this
did not happen and the two phases had a fused line still third y phase
could take current so much as to make the transformer burn etc so it
looks that it found path through neutral to complete the circuit etc
the neutral if i do not use the ups shouldnt have taken current from y
phase is it so?

D
Dammmm what a run-on sentence!!! I'm not trying to be a grammar cop
here, but that conglomeration of words made my eyes hurt while trying to
piece together what you're trying to say.
Please try again, but use a modicum of punctuation. You'll likely get more
meaningful answers to your question (whatever it was).

--
Dave M
MasonDG44 at comcast dot net (Just subsitute the appropriate characters in
the address)

Never take a laxative and a sleeping pill at the same time!!
 
In article <o57ua1t1b05rbe3q2246ksb103nhov1i0p@4ax.com>, nospam@aol.com
(Dr. Polemic) wrote:

Damn, this thread will hit 200 posts soon. The less the content, the
bigger the thread.

Amazing isn't it? We're actually witnessing a dispute over what AC
and DC are? And
whether such things even exist?
Great isn't it ???

I have my own theories, but I'll keep them to myself for the time
being. I regularly work on a piece of kit that outputs a varying DC
voltage. Over a period of maybe 10-20 seconds it does often approximate
a sine wave. With such a slow cycle time, I must admit I've never
thought of an AC component, only of a varying DC one ;-)


- Steve
back behind the asbestos screen.
 
Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
(snip)

The idea that water boils at 100C and freezes at 0C, without
some mention of pressure, has little meaning. Water can "boil"
at 0C too.
Unless it is a solid. Then it sublimates. Boiling only happens to
liquids.
 
Tim,

Normally for me to repair an old amplifier with this similar problem is take
out and disassembly all the switches for a deep clean. Mostly the problem
gone.

Good Luck

Eric


"Bob Shuman" <reshuman@removethis.lucent.com> wrote in message
news:d8mm52$gol@netnews.proxy.lucent.com...
At that age, I'd also suspect oxidized/dirty contacts on the controls.
Have
you tried playing with all the knobs, buttons and switches (speakers A/B,
tone defeat, loudness, bass, treble, balance, etc) on the front panel?
Many
times this will help to isolate the bad contact since the behavior will
change as you move the control between different positions. Once you
determine the cause, a good cleaning with a good contact cleaner should
help
a lot.

Also, as a thought, is there a speaker relay near the final output? If
so,
it is possible that the left channel contacts are pitted or worn and need
some attention. Many times you can remove the plastic cover on the relay
and assert some pressure to see if the behavior changes. If it does, then
you can use a small file or some emery cloth and contact cleaner to try to
clean up the contacts.

Good luck!

Bob

"Tim Mitchell" <timng@sabretechnology.co.uk> wrote in message
news:vhGSBguGRtrCFAt0@tega.co.uk...
In article <1118723229.619344.265500@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
TDWesty <vwdiesels@gmail.com> writes
I have an NAD 3125 integrated amp (1986 vintage) with a strange left
channel problem. With a lower level input, such as my 4125 tuner, or a
VCR, the left amp channel drops out to almost nothing. Switching the
amp to mono equalizes both channels. I have swapped speakers, wires,
patch cables, and tried all of the line level inputs on the amp, with
the same results. I have swapped left&right, etc, but the problem is
always the left channel of the amp. The tuner works fine on both
channels with another amp.

With a higher level input such as CD or DVD, both channels work and
sound fine. The left channel behaviour was inconsistent for a while,
but is now consistent, and has been for months.

I have done some reading about replacing caps on older amps, along with
checking for bad solder joints, but have found no visible problems in
either case. I have had the amp for 20 years, and it has never been
abused.
 

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