TI new products...

On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:

\'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
for additional frequency conversions stages.\"

Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it\'s worth examining all
the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.

So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
per second? More, or less?

Next-gen wireless networks will have frequency hopping, radical
constellation coding, synthetic antenna aiming, all sorts of nasty
stuff. It makes sense to digitize the antenna signal and do all the
fancy stuff digitally.

The market will be enormous. Envision hundreds of millions of little
6G boxes on telephone poles all over the world.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:

\'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
for additional frequency conversions stages.\"

Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it\'s worth examining all
the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.

So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
per second? More, or less?

Next-gen wireless networks will have frequency hopping, radical
constellation coding, synthetic antenna aiming, all sorts of nasty
stuff. It makes sense to digitize the antenna signal and do all the
fancy stuff digitally.

The market will be enormous. Envision hundreds of millions of little
6G boxes on telephone poles all over the world.

Bringing streaming 16K videos of cute kittens to everybody\'s car.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:16:25 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:

\'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
for additional frequency conversions stages.\"

Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it\'s worth examining all
the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.

So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
per second? More, or less?

Next-gen wireless networks will have frequency hopping, radical
constellation coding, synthetic antenna aiming, all sorts of nasty
stuff. It makes sense to digitize the antenna signal and do all the
fancy stuff digitally.

The market will be enormous. Envision hundreds of millions of little
6G boxes on telephone poles all over the world.


Bringing streaming 16K videos of cute kittens to everybody\'s car.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:16:25 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:

\'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
for additional frequency conversions stages.\"

Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it\'s worth examining all
the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.

So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
per second? More, or less?

Next-gen wireless networks will have frequency hopping, radical
constellation coding, synthetic antenna aiming, all sorts of nasty
stuff. It makes sense to digitize the antenna signal and do all the
fancy stuff digitally.

The market will be enormous. Envision hundreds of millions of little
6G boxes on telephone poles all over the world.


Bringing streaming 16K videos of cute kittens to everybody\'s car.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.
Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
everything at once.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:04:49 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:16:25 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:

\'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
for additional frequency conversions stages.\"

Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it\'s worth examining all
the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.

So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
per second? More, or less?

Next-gen wireless networks will have frequency hopping, radical
constellation coding, synthetic antenna aiming, all sorts of nasty
stuff. It makes sense to digitize the antenna signal and do all the
fancy stuff digitally.

The market will be enormous. Envision hundreds of millions of little
6G boxes on telephone poles all over the world.


Bringing streaming 16K videos of cute kittens to everybody\'s car.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
everything at once.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

But they can\'t punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.

Capitalism will find a way.

I\'m killing time until a design review, which should be fun. It\'s a
Z-series test board with all sorts of mixed experiments for various
people. New Trion FPGA, my dummy load with the CPU cooler, various
switching supplies, power resistors and inductors to test in our air
stream, new tricolor LED, all kinds of stuff.

I want to test the Trion for pin-pin delays, LVDS electrical details,
delay-vs-temp and delay-vs-Ccc_core, jitter, power consumption, things
like that.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
On Monday, 25 April 2022 at 08:16:23 UTC+1, John Doe wrote:
Is there some clinical name for a person who insults others in
conversation. Maybe that is Australian etiquette and protocol.

one of the PD clusters. (they really don\'t like people mentioning it)
 
On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 21:52:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
everything at once.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
But they can\'t punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.

Capitalism will find a way.

Dictatorship outranks capitalism.
 
On a sunny day (Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:04:49 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
<14b0630b-0e0a-0e71-a3ed-a80692cbb705@electrooptical.net>:

John Larkin wrote:
I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
everything at once.

They just send the KILL signal to your chip implant.
No need for external \'tronics like a TV screen,
just at birth a brain implant.


Few errors with todays software and coders :)
 
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

That\'s a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
isn\'t the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.

Maybe bluetooth/WiFi/Cat5 routing is a good thing, though. I want, if possible,
long-range signals in a wired or fiber network, but a tablet or cellphone is SO convenient.
 
On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 3:18:24 PM UTC+10, Tabby wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 21:52:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

But they can\'t punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.

Capitalism will find a way.

Dictatorship outranks capitalism.

Tabby would think that, on the basis that he would be the dictator, and he\'s too silly to notice that dictatorships never work all that well at all, because the people in charge have the same kinds of delusions about their competence that he does.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:18:20 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 21:52:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
everything at once.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
But they can\'t punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.

Capitalism will find a way.

Dictatorship outranks capitalism.

Dictators, like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Putin, think they understand
everything and then want to control everything. They kill hundreds of
millions.

\"Capitalism\" really means pluralism, letting lots of sane and crazy
people try things to see what actually works.



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar
 
On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:33:48 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<o8gl6hpqq0s2truck4h0380vqa9kr1i8b1@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:18:20 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 21:52:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
everything at once.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
But they can\'t punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.

Capitalism will find a way.

Dictatorship outranks capitalism.

Dictators, like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Putin, think they understand
everything and then want to control everything. They kill hundreds of
millions.

Yes you US have a milli-tairy Industrial Complex that killed millions recently
with covid they designed.
As you did in Vietnam with Agent Orange, the list is much longer.
As you did in the war Bill Clignon, an other deamon crate, started in Europe
ByeThen is not even original
I think Putin is merely defending his people.



\"Capitalism\" really means pluralism, letting lots of sane and crazy
people try things to see what actually works.

That is not capitalism, that is happening everywhere.

Your dictator is the Military Industrial Complex and the political pawns in its game
Selling death for profit.

Seen that movie, \'Planet of the Apes\' where they find the remains of that Statute of Liberty?
How many years..
No Empire Yet has persisted.

Or is it for you also \"whos bread one eats whos word one speaks?\"
Not hero mister
pussy
 
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:05:59 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:33:48 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
o8gl6hpqq0s2truck4h0380vqa9kr1i8b1@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:18:20 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 21:52:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
everything at once.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
But they can\'t punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.

Capitalism will find a way.

Dictatorship outranks capitalism.

Dictators, like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Putin, think they understand
everything and then want to control everything. They kill hundreds of
millions.

Yes you US have a milli-tairy Industrial Complex that killed millions recently
with covid they designed.

It started at the lab in china.


As you did in Vietnam with Agent Orange, the list is much longer.
As you did in the war Bill Clignon, an other deamon crate, started in Europe
ByeThen is not even original
I think Putin is merely defending his people.

Defending? Against what?

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

That\'s a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
isn\'t the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.

What we have is a mess. Many cell companies have various spotty
coverage. Ditto cable TV and internet providers. Once people manage to
get an internet provider, they have to install their own cables and
wifi. Wires are strung on poles, sidewalks are dug up, dishes point
everywhere and rust or get blown away. People pay for multiple
services.

One uniform microcell mesh system would eliminate all that.

Imagine progress.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
On 4/28/2022 22:16, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

That\'s a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
isn\'t the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.

What we have is a mess. Many cell companies have various spotty
coverage. Ditto cable TV and internet providers. Once people manage to
get an internet provider, they have to install their own cables and
wifi. Wires are strung on poles, sidewalks are dug up, dishes point
everywhere and rust or get blown away. People pay for multiple
services.

One uniform microcell mesh system would eliminate all that.

Imagine progress.

It would be nice for things to evolve this way but - and it is a huge
BUT - the standards need to be public. They are anything but at the
moment - the layers above IP and perhaps PPP are completely secret.

Privacy is overrated, as you say - I\'d go a step further and say
privacy will disappear completely before we know, however it has to
disappear for *everyone*, *zero* exceptions.
 
On 2022-04-28, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

That\'s a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
isn\'t the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.

What we have is a mess. Many cell companies have various spotty
coverage. Ditto cable TV and internet providers. Once people manage to
get an internet provider, they have to install their own cables and
wifi. Wires are strung on poles, sidewalks are dug up, dishes point
everywhere and rust or get blown away. People pay for multiple
services.

One uniform microcell mesh system would eliminate all that.

The liberals will never go for that, the current mess is too
proffitable, those further to the right even more so.

--
Jasen.
 
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:06:46 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
<usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2022-04-28, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

That\'s a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
isn\'t the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.

What we have is a mess. Many cell companies have various spotty
coverage. Ditto cable TV and internet providers. Once people manage to
get an internet provider, they have to install their own cables and
wifi. Wires are strung on poles, sidewalks are dug up, dishes point
everywhere and rust or get blown away. People pay for multiple
services.

One uniform microcell mesh system would eliminate all that.


The liberals will never go for that, the current mess is too
proffitable, those further to the right even more so.

Then nothing will ever change. Progress has stopped.



--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 5:16:32 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

That\'s a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
isn\'t the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.

What we have is a mess. Many cell companies have various spotty
coverage. Ditto cable TV and internet providers. Once people manage to
get an internet provider, they have to install their own cables and
wifi. Wires are strung on poles, sidewalks are dug up, dishes point
everywhere and rust or get blown away. People pay for multiple
services.

One uniform microcell mesh system would eliminate all that.

Imagine progress.

Just don\'t let John Larkin do it for you. One uniform microcell mesh system that was fast enough to satisfy the greediest bandwidth hog would be too expensive for anybody else to pay for.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 9:27:32 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:06:46 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
use...@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2022-04-28, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

One uniform microcell mesh system would eliminate all that.

The liberals will never go for that, the current mess is too profitable, those further to the right even more so.

Then nothing will ever change. Progress has stopped.

Except that it hasn\'t. The Linux program illustrates that commercially motivated (and paid for) development isn\'t the only way to make progress.

Profit is where you can find it, and if some impractical researcher comes up with a scheme that some entrepreneur can make money out of you can still get progress. Serendipity works.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:05:36 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
<4apl6hlk37vd1381ddnod84vfq4bv44gr1@4ax.com>:

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:05:59 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:33:48 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
o8gl6hpqq0s2truck4h0380vqa9kr1i8b1@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:18:20 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 21:52:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
everything at once.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
But they can\'t punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.

Capitalism will find a way.

Dictatorship outranks capitalism.

Dictators, like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Putin, think they understand
everything and then want to control everything. They kill hundreds of
millions.

Yes you US have a milli-tairy Industrial Complex that killed millions recently
with covid they designed.

It started at the lab in china.

US mini-tary Industrial Complex has dangerous research done in labs they finance all over the world,
far away from their own bed.
Backfired in this case, as it did wih HIV.


As you did in Vietnam with Agent Orange, the list is much longer.
As you did in the war Bill Clignon, an other deamon crate, started in Europe
ByeThen is not even original
I think Putin is merely defending his people.

Defending? Against what?

Against what you called quote:
\"Capitalism\" really means pluralism,
letting lots of sane and crazy people try things to see what actually works.\"
_______________^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The crazy part is strong these days, Fauci a mass murderer,
Biden -the one with vacuum bubbles in his brain and his imported slaves- a dictator.
 

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