The Ukraine War Will Go On Forever...

[Jeroen Belleman]

On 2022-04-19 21:16, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

tirsdag den 19. april 2022 kl. 21.04.07 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
[...]

Don\'t turn to the French for nuclear. They can\'t seem to build a
nuke for less than $20 billion these days and it will be a decade
late in commissioning. Their nuclear projects are mostly
disasters.


yeh, only 56 reactors and producing +70% of the country\'s electricity
...

The reason it\'s so hard to make new ones these days is the crippling
regulatory environment. My work also involves radioactive stuff.
We\'re so bogged down it\'s hard to get anything done at all.

Of course, it\'s all for our own and the public\'s safety. You can\'t
criticize that or you\'ll be deemed irresponsible.

It\'s almost funny. I *know* we all get a daily dose of ~10uSv, just
from the ordinary environment, but the extra few hundred nSv I
occasionally get from working on slightly radioactive stuff seems
to justify lots of extra rules, lots of paperwork, regular
inspections, special labs and protective gear. Granted, those are
sometimes necessary, but sheesh, a bit of common sense would be
welcome. A few uSv extra on occasion aren\'t going to make a
difference!

Jeroen Belleman

 

[John Doe]

Actually it\'s to do with AGGRESSIVE NATO expansion to Russia\'s border
countries, since the end of the Cold War when Russia gave up those countries.

That war could have easily been prevented if not for the overinflated egos
in Ukraine. Pride comes before the fall.

Ukraine needs to HUMBLE itself, declare itself NEUTRAL, and stop bombing
Russia-sympathetic people in Ukraine.

As far as support from Americans goes... It\'s all about the New World
Order, neocons and liberals\' newfound love (apparently centering on hatred
for Trump), and the bizarre claim that Ukraine is The Holy Land.

Ukraine worked hard to elect Hillary Clinton, against Trump, in 2016. Like
the Ukrainian parliament member said right there in a YouTube video...

\"We fight for this New World Order\"

https://youtu.be/lD4OP-cPgQo?t=106

It\'s all about imperialism and warmongering. We just got out of
Afghanistan 7 months ago and the warmongers are beating the war drums
again.

World War III is where we are heading. The destruction of marriage is
leading to the fall of civilization. At this point in human history, that
means dire consequence. But, apparently this, or what is to come in the
not-too-distant future, was predicted. I think we will end up with a one
world government before everything falls apart. When there is nowhere to
run, that is when they will put the real squeeze on ordinary people.


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The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
It will go on forever.

The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
doesn\'t matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.

These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
continue fighting.

Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
behind Putin\'s Ukraine War:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0

Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a \'true
Russian\'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs


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MRM

 

[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:02:50 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t3n4ha$kst$3@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe\'s post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.3% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1067 articles to USENET. Of which 125 have been pure insults and
486 have been John Doe \"troll format\" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

sWYa/ReN4we/

 

[Ricky]

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 3:55:18 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-04-19 21:16, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
tirsdag den 19. april 2022 kl. 21.04.07 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
[...]
Don\'t turn to the French for nuclear. They can\'t seem to build a
nuke for less than $20 billion these days and it will be a decade
late in commissioning. Their nuclear projects are mostly
disasters.


yeh, only 56 reactors and producing +70% of the country\'s electricity
...

The reason it\'s so hard to make new ones these days is the crippling
regulatory environment.

This is the BS that so many advocate, without any basis.

My work also involves radioactive stuff.
We\'re so bogged down it\'s hard to get anything done at all.

Of course, it\'s all for our own and the public\'s safety. You can\'t
criticize that or you\'ll be deemed irresponsible.

It\'s almost funny. I *know* we all get a daily dose of ~10uSv, just
from the ordinary environment, but the extra few hundred nSv I
occasionally get from working on slightly radioactive stuff seems
to justify lots of extra rules, lots of paperwork, regular
inspections, special labs and protective gear. Granted, those are
sometimes necessary, but sheesh, a bit of common sense would be
welcome. A few uSv extra on occasion aren\'t going to make a
difference!

Sure, but the regulations are to prevent a much larger dose. They may be a bit overboard, but you talk like you literally can\'t get your work done. Then you say it is \"sometimes\" necessary! \"The lady doth protest too much, methinks\".

--

Rick C.

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[John Doe]

Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That\'s a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <always.look@message.header> (astraweb)
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don\'t get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:02:50 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t3n4ha$kst$3@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe\'s post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.3% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1067 articles to USENET. Of which 125 have been pure insults and
486 have been John Doe \"troll format\" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

sWYa/ReN4we/

 

[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:26:06 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t3n5su$kst$4@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe\'s post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.3% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1070 articles to USENET. Of which 125 have been pure insults and
488 have been John Doe \"troll format\" postings.

xCDXbygQlIXy

 

[Jeroen Belleman]

On 2022-04-19 22:25, Ricky wrote:

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 3:55:18 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-04-19 21:16, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
tirsdag den 19. april 2022 kl. 21.04.07 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
[...]
Don\'t turn to the French for nuclear. They can\'t seem to build a
nuke for less than $20 billion these days and it will be a decade
late in commissioning. Their nuclear projects are mostly
disasters.


yeh, only 56 reactors and producing +70% of the country\'s electricity
...

The reason it\'s so hard to make new ones these days is the crippling
regulatory environment.

This is the BS that so many advocate, without any basis.


My work also involves radioactive stuff.
We\'re so bogged down it\'s hard to get anything done at all.

Of course, it\'s all for our own and the public\'s safety. You can\'t
criticize that or you\'ll be deemed irresponsible.

It\'s almost funny. I *know* we all get a daily dose of ~10uSv, just
from the ordinary environment, but the extra few hundred nSv I
occasionally get from working on slightly radioactive stuff seems
to justify lots of extra rules, lots of paperwork, regular
inspections, special labs and protective gear. Granted, those are
sometimes necessary, but sheesh, a bit of common sense would be
welcome. A few uSv extra on occasion aren\'t going to make a
difference!

Sure, but the regulations are to prevent a much larger dose. They may be a bit overboard, but you talk like you literally can\'t get your work done. Then you say it is \"sometimes\" necessary! \"The lady doth protest too much, methinks\".

Well, what do you know? I\'m not going to argue with you.

Jeroen Belleman

 

[David Brown]

On 19/04/2022 20:29, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

On 4/19/2022 20:39, John Larkin wrote:

Germany needs to revive its coal and nuke power plants, or freeze and
de-industrialize.

It does. And they need to build some more nuclear plants so coal can be
phased out.

There\'s still lots of fuel under the North Sea. More exploring seems
to find more stuff.


Perhaps, but gas and petrol are short term solutions anyway. Since
the EU (and the world) needs to do something about producing less
smoke going seriously nuclear looks like the only viable option.
Sort of like the French have done it. The main brake against nuclear
has been the fear that waste can fall in the wrong hands to build
weapons from (not the pollution nonsense the media spread for the
masses). So more spectrometry gadgets will be needed... the steam
engine I hope to build in my backyard won\'t come for free .

The big problem with nuclear power is that it takes a long time to build
the plants. (Yes, the build cost is a problem too - but it\'s a problem
that can be solved by throwing money at it, unlike the time problem.)

Of course we need to start building the nuclear power plants /now/,
while we also work on short term solutions.

 

[whit3rd]

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 1:02:57 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

Actually it\'s to do with AGGRESSIVE NATO expansion to Russia\'s border
countries, since the end of the Cold War when Russia gave up those countries.

Lie #1: it\'s not about NATO, which is a defense agreement that, if anything,
is getting stronger because of this conflict. The \'solution\' wasn\'t aimed at NATO.
..
Lie #2: Russia never \'gave up\' any countries, they just left the USSR agreeably.
It\'s definitely about countries other than Russia, which is
a situation limiting Putin\'s power to... one country. Where he arguably has supporters.

Lie #3: the Cold War is not the issue, but rather a hot war, and looking backward
through history for Cold War and Nazis is just a propoganda tactic, akin to blaming
the ills of the world on devils.

That war could have easily been prevented if not for the overinflated egos
in Ukraine. Pride comes before the fall.

Dimwit alert! Putin claimed up to the day of invasion that he was NOT going
to war. If you believe the \'special military operation\' rhetoric is meaningful,
he still claims that. No \'prevented\' opportunity was clear, but the assault force
was REAL clear. Ukraine has ground forces and egos, but Putin\'s problem there
isn\'t the egos.

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 12:20:42 -0700, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:

On 4/19/22 10:47, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com
wrote:

The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
It will go on forever.

Nope. Methinks it\'s an economic war. Russia just finished building
an $11 billion offshore natural gas pipeline to Germany primarily to
bypass transit charges for the existing pipelines crossing Ukraine.

\"The Engineering Behind Russia\'s Deadlocked Pipeline: Nord Stream 2\"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzibtVSamrY

As the process of certifying the pipeline blundered forward, the
stumbling block seemed to be getting approval by various countries
which stood to lose transit revenue for existing pipelines:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream#Regulatory_clearance

\"Russia-Ukraine gas disputes\"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_disputes

It seems to be an amazing coincidence that Russia would invade Ukraine
just after certification negotiations were going too slow. Just
connect the (pipeline) dots and follow the money:
https://mondediplo.com/IMG/jpg/lmd_0521_13_gazoducs_rgb.jpg
Maps with much more detail:
http://www.entsog.eu/maps#transmission-capacity-map-2021

\"When somebody says it’s not about the money, it’s about the money.\"
H. L. Mencken

Isn\'t there supposed to be a huge natural gas reservoir under Eastern
Ukraine? Another amazing coincidence!

I couldn\'t find anything that suggests such reserves. Most recent
natural gas discoveries require fracking to extract. If someone found
a \"gas reservoir\" it was likely a deplete oil field, depleted aquifer,
or salt dome, where someone put the gas there for storage:
<https://www.energyinfrastructure.org/energy-101/natural-gas-storage>

More interesting is that Ukraine was formerly a customer of Russian
natural gas but then switched its power plants to coal gasification
from China. This may explain part of why China refuses to take sides:
<https://www.emersonautomationexperts.com/2012/industry/chinese-gasification-expertise-on-its-way-to-the-ukraine/>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_in_Ukraine>
\"Ukraine stopped buying gas from Russia in November 2015 as a result
to minimize the gas dependence after the outbreak of the Ukraine
crisis. In earlier disputes Russia has stopped gas delivery in 2006
and 2008. In 2009 80% of the European Union gas from Russia was
delivered via Ukraine as transit country.\"

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 4/20/2022 0:22, David Brown wrote:

On 19/04/2022 20:29, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 4/19/2022 20:39, John Larkin wrote:

Germany needs to revive its coal and nuke power plants, or freeze and
de-industrialize.

It does. And they need to build some more nuclear plants so coal can be
phased out.

There\'s still lots of fuel under the North Sea. More exploring seems
to find more stuff.


Perhaps, but gas and petrol are short term solutions anyway. Since
the EU (and the world) needs to do something about producing less
smoke going seriously nuclear looks like the only viable option.
Sort of like the French have done it. The main brake against nuclear
has been the fear that waste can fall in the wrong hands to build
weapons from (not the pollution nonsense the media spread for the
masses). So more spectrometry gadgets will be needed... the steam
engine I hope to build in my backyard won\'t come for free .




The big problem with nuclear power is that it takes a long time to build
the plants. (Yes, the build cost is a problem too - but it\'s a problem
that can be solved by throwing money at it, unlike the time problem.)

Of course we need to start building the nuclear power plants /now/,
while we also work on short term solutions.

It takes a long time of course but much of it is due to overregulations,
like Jeroen suggested. Then the word \"nuclear\" still spells suicide
for many if not all politicians - which is the biggest problem, after
decades of training the public to perceive the word like this now
is pay time.
But we have no other sane option, we have to start building now indeed
and cover by short term solutions.

 

[John Doe]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/03/02/opinion/battle-is-being-waged-future-world/

\"Kennan, Kissinger warned of the ills of NATO’s expanding eastward\"

\"The legendary foreign policy guru George F. Kennan argued in 1948 against
any Western attempt to detach Ukraine from Russia and later called the
North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s eastward expansion a major strategic
blunder. Kennan was not a lone voice on this point. More recently, during
the first Russia-Ukraine war in 2014, former US secretary of state Henry
Kissinger warned, “The West must understand that, to Russia, Ukraine can
never be just a foreign country.” Kissinger was blunt: “Ukraine should not
join NATO. . . . Internationally, they should pursue a posture comparable
to that of Finland,” carefully avoiding institutional hostility toward
Russia.\"

But don\'t take VIP diplomats\' words for it,
this blowhard neocon warmonger knows better...


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On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 1:02:57 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
Actually it\'s to do with AGGRESSIVE NATO expansion to Russia\'s border
countries, since the end of the Cold War when Russia gave up those countries.

Lie #1: it\'s not about NATO, which is a defense agreement that, if anything,
is getting stronger because of this conflict. The \'solution\' wasn\'t aimed at NATO.
.
Lie #2: Russia never \'gave up\' any countries, they just left the USSR agreeably.
It\'s definitely about countries other than Russia, which is
a situation limiting Putin\'s power to... one country. Where he arguably has supporters.

Lie #3: the Cold War is not the issue, but rather a hot war, and looking backward
through history for Cold War and Nazis is just a propoganda tactic, akin to blaming
the ills of the world on devils.

That war could have easily been prevented if not for the overinflated egos
in Ukraine. Pride comes before the fall.

Dimwit alert! Putin claimed up to the day of invasion that he was NOT going
to war. If you believe the \'special military operation\' rhetoric is meaningful,
he still claims that. No \'prevented\' opportunity was clear, but the assault force
was REAL clear. Ukraine has ground forces and egos, but Putin\'s problem there
isn\'t the egos.

 

[John Doe]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 19 Apr 2022 22:09:18 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t3nbue$g6f$2@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 57.4% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 1079 articles to USENET. Of which 125 have been pure insults and
494 have been Troll Doe \"troll format\" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

1SeW8Bu4QB23

 

[John Doe]

Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That\'s a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <always.look@message.header> (astraweb)
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don\'t get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

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The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
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[John Doe]

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-says-no-red-line-indias-oil-imports-russia-2022-03-31/

\"India and China count Russia as a friendly nation and neither has
condemned Russia\'s attack on Ukraine. While India has abstained from
voting on U.N. resolutions on the war, China has in some cases sided with
Moscow.\"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-emirati-leaders-decline-calls-with-biden-during-ukraine-crisis-11646779430

\"Saudi, Emirati Leaders Decline Calls With Biden During Ukraine Crisis\"

It\'s the hard West, neocons and liberals, against the rest of the world,
fighting for their beloved Ukraine. Before Russia invaded, most Americans
had no idea what Ukraine was, except being \"10% for the big guy\" and maybe
an old Beatles\' song.

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 21:55:10 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

It\'s almost funny. I *know* we all get a daily dose of ~10uSv, just
from the ordinary environment, but the extra few hundred nSv I
occasionally get from working on slightly radioactive stuff seems
to justify lots of extra rules, lots of paperwork, regular
inspections, special labs and protective gear. Granted, those are
sometimes necessary, but sheesh, a bit of common sense would be
welcome. A few uSv extra on occasion aren\'t going to make a
difference!

This might help:

Radiation Dose Chart
<https://xkcd.com/radiation/

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[David Brown]

On 20/04/2022 00:06, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

On 4/20/2022 0:22, David Brown wrote:
On 19/04/2022 20:29, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 4/19/2022 20:39, John Larkin wrote:

Germany needs to revive its coal and nuke power plants, or freeze and
de-industrialize.

It does. And they need to build some more nuclear plants so coal can be
phased out.

There\'s still lots of fuel under the North Sea. More exploring seems
to find more stuff.


Perhaps, but gas and petrol are short term solutions anyway. Since
the EU (and the world) needs to do something about producing less
smoke going seriously nuclear looks like the only viable option.
Sort of like the French have done it. The main brake against nuclear
has been the fear that waste can fall in the wrong hands to build
weapons from (not the pollution nonsense the media spread for the
masses). So more spectrometry gadgets will be needed... the steam
engine I hope to build in my backyard won\'t come for free .




The big problem with nuclear power is that it takes a long time to build
the plants.  (Yes, the build cost is a problem too - but it\'s a problem
that can be solved by throwing money at it, unlike the time problem.)

Of course we need to start building the nuclear power plants /now/,
while we also work on short term solutions.

It takes a long time of course but much of it is due to overregulations,
like Jeroen suggested. Then the word \"nuclear\" still spells suicide
for many if not all politicians - which is the biggest problem, after
decades of training the public to perceive the word like this now
is pay time.

Certainly fear of radiation is regularly overdone, and that leads to
over-regulation and cowardice from the people making decisions. You do
have to be careful with nuclear power, but you don\'t have to be silly
about it. At the time of Fukushima, there was talk of evacuating Tokyo
- the levels they were concerned about were lower than the background
radiation where I live.

But we have no other sane option, we have to start building now indeed
and cover by short term solutions.

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:02:50 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<always.look@message.header> wrote:

Actually it\'s to do with AGGRESSIVE NATO expansion to Russia\'s border
countries, since the end of the Cold War when Russia gave up those countries.

That\'s the core issue that never seems to get a mention on CNN or any
other Western news channel for that matter.
One might have thought an operation to purge neo-Nazis from the
extreme East of Ukraine would have enjoyed popular support from the
Left-of-Center crowd here, but for some inexplicable reason, all they
do is complain about it!

 

[Ricky]

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 5:03:47 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-04-19 22:25, Ricky wrote:
On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 3:55:18 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-04-19 21:16, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
tirsdag den 19. april 2022 kl. 21.04.07 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
[...]
Don\'t turn to the French for nuclear. They can\'t seem to build a
nuke for less than $20 billion these days and it will be a decade
late in commissioning. Their nuclear projects are mostly
disasters.


yeh, only 56 reactors and producing +70% of the country\'s electricity
...

The reason it\'s so hard to make new ones these days is the crippling
regulatory environment.

This is the BS that so many advocate, without any basis.


My work also involves radioactive stuff.
We\'re so bogged down it\'s hard to get anything done at all.

Of course, it\'s all for our own and the public\'s safety. You can\'t
criticize that or you\'ll be deemed irresponsible.

It\'s almost funny. I *know* we all get a daily dose of ~10uSv, just
from the ordinary environment, but the extra few hundred nSv I
occasionally get from working on slightly radioactive stuff seems
to justify lots of extra rules, lots of paperwork, regular
inspections, special labs and protective gear. Granted, those are
sometimes necessary, but sheesh, a bit of common sense would be
welcome. A few uSv extra on occasion aren\'t going to make a
difference!

Sure, but the regulations are to prevent a much larger dose. They may be a bit overboard, but you talk like you literally can\'t get your work done. Then you say it is \"sometimes\" necessary! \"The lady doth protest too much, methinks\".

Well, what do you know? I\'m not going to argue with you.

That\'s good. You are already arguing with yourself.

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