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Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-96a4fb13632dn@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM

It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its name right.

And leave it to a total fucking retard to post a link to stupid shit.

You are as bad as the russian trolls and the poltwerps posting their
retarded links.
 
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:26 PM UTC-5, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
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Here is the situation in Ukraine:
https://www.youngpioneertours.com/languages-of-ukraine/

And we are going to war over this? I sure hope not.
 
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 11:57:27 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its name right.

How so? Ukraine:43m, Spain:46m, France:65m, Germany:85m in population.

And leave it to a total fucking retard to post a link to stupid shit.

You are as bad as the russian trolls and the poltwerps posting their
retarded links.

I guess your thinking is as backward as your language skill.
 
Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
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On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 11:57:27 PM UTC-8,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its name
right.

How so? Ukraine:43m, Spain:46m, France:65m, Germany:85m in
population.

Do you not perform any research, dork?
And leave it to a total fucking retard to post a link to stupid
shit.

You are as bad as the russian trolls and the poltwerps posting
their retarded links.

I guess your thinking is as backward as your language skill.

Said the jackass who took an American name. Good job, Edweirdo.
Language skill? It IS ONLY \"Ukraine\", not \"The Ukraine\".

And it is also the largest nation in Europe, though since you did
not even try to look into that fact, I have serious doubts that you
even have the aptitude to grasp that fact.

It IS the biggest dammed nation in Europe and you can\'t even get
your inane facts straight.

HOW SO? How can you be so stupid? I don\'t know, EdWeirdo, why
don\'t you tell us just HOW you got SO stupid.
 
On 1/02/2022 10:24 pm, Brent Locher wrote:
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:26 PM UTC-5, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM

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Rick C.

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Here is the situation in Ukraine:
https://www.youngpioneertours.com/languages-of-ukraine/

And we are going to war over this? I sure hope not.

Wow. Neville Chamberlain cops unlimited criticism for not confronting
Hitler early on. Now Putler has attacked Chechnya, Georgia, Crimea and
annexed 2 other regions in Ukraine and everybody hopes he has no more
territorial aims....

Think again. And think again about how non action will embolden China in
its territorial quests.
 
On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 12:36:51 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
news:0641c5ef-7dfe-41d5...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 11:57:27 PM UTC-8,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its name
right.

How so? Ukraine:43m, Spain:46m, France:65m, Germany:85m in population.
Do you not perform any research, dork?

Large land area is not the same as \"biggest nation\".

In addition to population,
Ukraine:0.133T, Spain:1.2T, France:2.6T, Germany:3.8T in GDP

Ukraine is a small country by any mean.
 
Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
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On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 12:36:51 PM UTC-8,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
news:0641c5ef-7dfe-41d5...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 11:57:27 PM UTC-8,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its
name right.

How so? Ukraine:43m, Spain:46m, France:65m, Germany:85m in
population.
Do you not perform any research, dork?

Large land area is not the same as \"biggest nation\".

It sure is, you fucking total retard. Go take a remedial English
course, putz.

In addition to population,
Ukraine:0.133T, Spain:1.2T, France:2.6T, Germany:3.8T in GDP

It has not a goddamned thing to do with their GDP either. Pathetic
worm.

> Ukraine is a small country by any mean.

No, your brain is small by any mean. One cannot expect much from a
TrumpCult idiot.
 
On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 11:53:21 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
news:00f620de-1527-4bf7...@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 12:36:51 PM UTC-8,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
news:0641c5ef-7dfe-41d5...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 11:57:27 PM UTC-8,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its
name right.

How so? Ukraine:43m, Spain:46m, France:65m, Germany:85m in
population.
Do you not perform any research, dork?

Large land area is not the same as \"biggest nation\".
It sure is, *** @#$% ****
In addition to population,
Ukraine:0.133T, Spain:1.2T, France:2.6T, Germany:3.8T in GDP
It has not a goddamned thing to do with their GDP either.

The context was for \"biggest nation\" too important to be ignored.
Only the biggest retarded idiot considers 3% of Germany GDP as \"biggest nation\".
 
On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 2:57:27 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its name right.

And leave it to a total fucking retard to post a link to stupid shit.

You are as bad as the russian trolls and the poltwerps posting their
retarded links.

You\'re partially correct. The country is called Ukraine, but term \"the ukraine\" is still used to refer to its massive agricultural region, the bread basket of Europe- until the brain dead communist regimes ruined it.
 
On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 4:09:17 PM UTC-5, David Eather wrote:
On 1/02/2022 10:24 pm, Brent Locher wrote:
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:26 PM UTC-5, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM

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Rick C.

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Here is the situation in Ukraine:
https://www.youngpioneertours.com/languages-of-ukraine/

And we are going to war over this? I sure hope not.
Wow. Neville Chamberlain cops unlimited criticism for not confronting
Hitler early on. Now Putler has attacked Chechnya, Georgia, Crimea and
annexed 2 other regions in Ukraine and everybody hopes he has no more
territorial aims....

Initially Hitler was simply taking back land stolen from Germans after WWI. He didn\'t want all of Czechoslovakia, he only wanted the western portion of the country historically known as Bohemia. Bohemia was a nation of German-Austrians founded as a kingdom during the middle ages and was eventually subsumed by the Habsburg empire. It never belonged to Germany because Germany was a relatively new nation on the scene. However, the inhabitants absolutely abhorred the Slavs and submitting to Slavic rule was a hell on Earth for them. They tried to do it the right way and formally petitioned the League of Nations to return them to Austrian rule, which was denied.
The Germans stole a lot military equipment from the Czechs. Rommel went through France like a hot knife through butter with his 7th panzer division which was all Czech tankettes- no super sophisticated advanced German armor technology was used. Of course it helped that the French just waved the German force through and didn\'t fight at all.

Same goes for Poland and east Prussia, the same situation with eastern Euros ruling a bunch of ethnic Germans, an intolerable situation. By rights, east Prussia should have been given to the Lithuania because the Germans stole it from Balts through bloody genocide in the 11th century, under the guise of converting the people to Christianity which the Balts absolutely refused to accept.

Ukraine belongs to Russia, they built everything there, mainly Catherine the Great built every major city. Most parts of urban Ukraine are majority ethnic Russian people. I don\'t know what the ethnic Ukrainians ever did except stay drunk all the time. They have a well documented history of being very evil, violent and murderous people. It would be worthwhile to see their record from WWII to get an idea.


Think again. And think again about how non action will embolden China in
its territorial quests.
 
Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
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On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 11:53:21 PM UTC-8,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
news:00f620de-1527-4bf7...@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 12:36:51 PM UTC-8,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
news:0641c5ef-7dfe-41d5...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 11:57:27 PM UTC-8,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:8291f417-6f7d- 4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its
name right.

How so? Ukraine:43m, Spain:46m, France:65m, Germany:85m in
population.
Do you not perform any research, dork?

Large land area is not the same as \"biggest nation\".
It sure is, *** @#$% ****

Oh looky... the retarded PUSSY is a .... PUSSY. No surprise
there.

In addition to population,
Ukraine:0.133T, Spain:1.2T, France:2.6T, Germany:3.8T in GDP
It has not a goddamned thing to do with their GDP either.

The context was for \"biggest nation\" too important to be ignored.

No, it is not.

Only the biggest retarded idiot considers 3% of Germany GDP as
\"biggest nation\".

Obviously physical area is a huge factor.

Are you not the retarded dope that just posted \"Ukraine is a small
country by any mean.\"

You could not grasp \'context\' if your pathetic life depended on it,
by any mean.

Too important to be ignored is the FACT that it is the biggest
nation in Europe. You seem to have no grasp of what that means.
 
Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
news:439672c0-2980-41f4-ae6e-30539d2efc5an@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 2:57:27 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its name
right.

And leave it to a total fucking retard to post a link to stupid
shit.

You are as bad as the russian trolls and the poltwerps posting
their retarded links.

You\'re partially correct. The country is called Ukraine, but term
\"the ukraine\" is still used to refer to its massive agricultural
region, the bread basket of Europe- until the brain dead communist
regimes ruined it.

Hmmm... \'breadbasket\'... \'largest nation\'... sounds like I got
that part right too.
 
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
news:439672c0-2980-41f4-ae6e-30539d2efc5an@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 2:57:27 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its name
right.

And leave it to a total fucking retard to post a link to stupid
shit.

You are as bad as the russian trolls and the poltwerps posting
their retarded links.

You\'re partially correct. The country is called Ukraine, but term
\"the ukraine\" is still used to refer to its massive agricultural
region, the bread basket of Europe- until the brain dead communist
regimes ruined it.


Hmmm... \'breadbasket\'... \'largest nation\'... sounds like I got
that part right too.

Is russia really in europe?
 
Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in news:stf7r0$63h$1
@reader1.panix.com:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
news:439672c0-2980-41f4-ae6e-30539d2efc5an@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 2:57:27 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its name
right.

And leave it to a total fucking retard to post a link to stupid
shit.

You are as bad as the russian trolls and the poltwerps posting
their retarded links.

You\'re partially correct. The country is called Ukraine, but term
\"the ukraine\" is still used to refer to its massive agricultural
region, the bread basket of Europe- until the brain dead
communist
regimes ruined it.


Hmmm... \'breadbasket\'... \'largest nation\'... sounds like I
got
that part right too.

Is russia really in europe?
75% of Russia\'s citizenry is in the European continent. On the
OTHER hand 75% of Russia\'s land mass is in Asia.

The UN says \"Europe\", but geography states otherwise. So I guess
it becomes a matter of opinion at that point.

Ukraine is NOT Russia. And NO, it is also NOT in Russia, AND
finally Russia is not in Europe, though parts of it is.

After the Breakup of the USSR, we have several nations now that are
their own sovereign entity. Crimea WAS one of them. Ukraine still
is, so far. Putin\'s goal is to convince them that they would fare
better under Russia\'s wing. It would be a sad mistake for them to
believe his bullshit.
 
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in news:stf7r0$63h$1
@reader1.panix.com:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
news:439672c0-2980-41f4-ae6e-30539d2efc5an@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 2:57:27 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its name
right.

And leave it to a total fucking retard to post a link to stupid
shit.

You are as bad as the russian trolls and the poltwerps posting
their retarded links.

You\'re partially correct. The country is called Ukraine, but term
\"the ukraine\" is still used to refer to its massive agricultural
region, the bread basket of Europe- until the brain dead
communist
regimes ruined it.


Hmmm... \'breadbasket\'... \'largest nation\'... sounds like I
got
that part right too.

Is russia really in europe?

75% of Russia\'s citizenry is in the European continent. On the
OTHER hand 75% of Russia\'s land mass is in Asia.

The UN says \"Europe\", but geography states otherwise. So I guess
it becomes a matter of opinion at that point.

Ukraine is NOT Russia. And NO, it is also NOT in Russia, AND
finally Russia is not in Europe, though parts of it is.

After the Breakup of the USSR, we have several nations now that are
their own sovereign entity. Crimea WAS one of them. Ukraine still
is, so far. Putin\'s goal is to convince them that they would fare
better under Russia\'s wing. It would be a sad mistake for them to
believe his bullshit.

What\'s ukraine? I though countries have borders they defend, but I might
just be old fashioned.
 
torsdag den 3. februar 2022 kl. 01.44.04 UTC+1 skrev DecadentLinux...@decadence.org:
Cydrome Leader <pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in news:stf7r0$63h$1
@reader1.panix.com:
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:439672c0-2980-41f4...@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 2:57:27 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its name
right.

And leave it to a total fucking retard to post a link to stupid
shit.

You are as bad as the russian trolls and the poltwerps posting
their retarded links.

You\'re partially correct. The country is called Ukraine, but term
\"the ukraine\" is still used to refer to its massive agricultural
region, the bread basket of Europe- until the brain dead
communist
regimes ruined it.


Hmmm... \'breadbasket\'... \'largest nation\'... sounds like I
got
that part right too.

Is russia really in europe?

75% of Russia\'s citizenry is in the European continent. On the
OTHER hand 75% of Russia\'s land mass is in Asia.

The UN says \"Europe\", but geography states otherwise. So I guess
it becomes a matter of opinion at that point.

Ukraine is NOT Russia. And NO, it is also NOT in Russia, AND
finally Russia is not in Europe, though parts of it is.

After the Breakup of the USSR, we have several nations now that are
their own sovereign entity. Crimea WAS one of them. Ukraine still
is, so far. Putin\'s goal is to convince them that they would fare
better under Russia\'s wing. It would be a sad mistake for them to
believe his bullshit.

Putin as already spelled out his issues, he does not want Ukraine
to become a member of NATO member right on Russia\'s border.
Crimea used to be Russian, is home to the black sea fleet and one of
Russia\'s only three warm water ports, so it hardly surprising Putin had to
do something when they started talking about EU and NATO
membership, and it wasn\'t immediately denied

doesn\'t make it right, but somewhat understandable

Unless Germany want to freeze in the dark, they are problem not going to risk
Putin turning off the gas
 
On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 7:44:04 PM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Cydrome Leader <pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in news:stf7r0$63h$1
@reader1.panix.com:
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:439672c0-2980-41f4...@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 2:57:27 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d-
4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its name
right.

And leave it to a total fucking retard to post a link to stupid
shit.

You are as bad as the russian trolls and the poltwerps posting
their retarded links.

You\'re partially correct. The country is called Ukraine, but term
\"the ukraine\" is still used to refer to its massive agricultural
region, the bread basket of Europe- until the brain dead
communist
regimes ruined it.


Hmmm... \'breadbasket\'... \'largest nation\'... sounds like I
got
that part right too.

Is russia really in europe?

75% of Russia\'s citizenry is in the European continent. On the
OTHER hand 75% of Russia\'s land mass is in Asia.

The UN says \"Europe\", but geography states otherwise. So I guess
it becomes a matter of opinion at that point.

Ukraine is NOT Russia. And NO, it is also NOT in Russia, AND
finally Russia is not in Europe, though parts of it is.

After the Breakup of the USSR, we have several nations now that are
their own sovereign entity. Crimea WAS one of them. Ukraine still
is, so far. Putin\'s goal is to convince them that they would fare
better under Russia\'s wing. It would be a sad mistake for them to
believe his bullshit.

Everything west of the Urals is Europe. The core of Russia started in Europe and is squarely in Europe to this day. You can\'t go by that dumb UN statistic because the term Russian citizen encompasses a bunch of non-European Asian people. There are at least an equal number of Asian people as there are Russians living in their federation.
Getting back to the Ukraine, Ukraine is not Russia, but Russia was founded by slavs who moved north out of Ukraine into Russia. Ukraine was never anything politically or culturally other than a loose federation of slavic tribes who organized themselves to protect trade routes coming from the east. As is typical of those people they were always infighting and were a very weak society. The Mongols wiped them off the map in the 13-14th century and that was the end of them. Some of them broke and ran to start a new settlement in what eventually became Russia.
The people who lived in that part of the world were constantly living in survival mode, in constant danger of being annihilated by one group or another coming out of Asia. It took a strong Russian in the person of Ivan the Terrible to smartly militarize their borders and finally provide safety for all the people living there, including people in Ukraine.
When the Soviets broke up their phony, corrupt union, they cut the Ukraine loose to be on its own because they didn\'t want the trouble of administering a government there. All that stuff about Ukraine yearning for freedom and independence was total bullshit promulgated by the new criminal class looking to rule and rob the place. How these leaders can keep a straight face when talking about Ukraine is kinda amazing. It\'s no more a real country than North Korea- a completely fake construct iow. The American people, the most ignorant people on Earth, are being duped about Ukraine. Russia has every right to go in and crack heads when they misbehave.
 
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote in
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torsdag den 3. februar 2022 kl. 01.44.04 UTC+1 skrev
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org:
Cydrome Leader <pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in
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DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:439672c0-2980-41f4...@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 2:57:27 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:8291f417-6f7d- 4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

https://youtu.be/wDPbSrFmdeM


It is not \"the Ukraine\" It is simply Ukraine.
Biggest damn nation in Europe and you cannot even state its
name right.

And leave it to a total fucking retard to post a link to
stupid shit.

You are as bad as the russian trolls and the poltwerps
posting their retarded links.

You\'re partially correct. The country is called Ukraine, but
term \"the ukraine\" is still used to refer to its massive
agricultural region, the bread basket of Europe- until the
brain dead
communist
regimes ruined it.


Hmmm... \'breadbasket\'... \'largest nation\'... sounds like I
got
that part right too.

Is russia really in europe?

75% of Russia\'s citizenry is in the European continent. On the
OTHER hand 75% of Russia\'s land mass is in Asia.

The UN says \"Europe\", but geography states otherwise. So I guess
it becomes a matter of opinion at that point.

Ukraine is NOT Russia. And NO, it is also NOT in Russia, AND
finally Russia is not in Europe, though parts of it is.

After the Breakup of the USSR, we have several nations now that
are their own sovereign entity. Crimea WAS one of them. Ukraine
still is, so far. Putin\'s goal is to convince them that they
would fare better under Russia\'s wing. It would be a sad mistake
for them to believe his bullshit.

Putin as already spelled out his issues, he does not want Ukraine
to become a member of NATO member right on Russia\'s border.
Crimea used to be Russian, is home to the black sea fleet and one
of Russia\'s only three warm water ports, so it hardly surprising
Putin had to do something when they started talking about EU and
NATO membership, and it wasn\'t immediately denied

doesn\'t make it right, but somewhat understandable

Unless Germany want to freeze in the dark, they are problem not
going to risk Putin turning off the gas

Germany has an alternate source available to them.

Putin is no more than an intimidating bluff idiot someone should
shoot. He was KGB and the first idiot who wanted the old system back
as they tried to march toward being a democracy. He has since become
the most corrupt and also one of the biggest thieves on the planet.
Following Trump\'s devalue/revalue MO, he made himself rich buying
severely devalued properties and then bolstering the value back up
the next day. You know, things that would get folks over here thrown
into prison... Well, at least most people.

I cannot believe they were so hep on putting ol\' Madoff away so
quickly (the burn must have hurt them bad), but they will not go
after a coup organizing total criminal nation damaging idiot with any
fervor. It has to change.
 
On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 3:47:23 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 7:44:04 PM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Cydrome Leader <pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in news:stf7r0$63h$1@reader1.panix.com:
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in news:439672c0-2980-41f4...@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 2:57:27 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8291f417-6f7d- 4578-bbda-9...@googlegroups.com:

<snip>

Ukraine is NOT Russia. And NO, it is also NOT in Russia, AND
finally Russia is not in Europe, though parts of it is.

After the Breakup of the USSR, we have several nations now that are
their own sovereign entity. Crimea WAS one of them. Ukraine still
is, so far. Putin\'s goal is to convince them that they would fare
better under Russia\'s wing. It would be a sad mistake for them to
believe his bullshit.

Everything west of the Urals is Europe. The core of Russia started in Europe and is squarely in Europe to this day. You can\'t go by that dumb UN statistic because the term Russian citizen encompasses a bunch of non-European Asian people. There are at least an equal number of Asian people as there are Russians living in their federation.

Getting back to the Ukraine, Ukraine is not Russia, but Russia was founded by slavs who moved north out of Ukraine into Russia. Ukraine was never anything politically or culturally other than a loose federation of slavic tribes who organized themselves to protect trade routes coming from the east. As is typical of those people they were always infighting and were a very weak society. The Mongols wiped them off the map in the 13-14th century and that was the end of them. Some of them broke and ran to start a new settlement in what eventually became Russia.

The people who lived in that part of the world were constantly living in survival mode, in constant danger of being annihilated by one group or another coming out of Asia. It took a strong Russian in the person of Ivan the Terrible to smartly militarize their borders and finally provide safety for all the people living there, including people in Ukraine.

When the Soviets broke up their phony, corrupt union, they cut the Ukraine loose to be on its own because they didn\'t want the trouble of administering a government there. All that stuff about Ukraine yearning for freedom and independence was total bullshit promulgated by the new criminal class looking to rule and rob the place. How these leaders can keep a straight face when talking about Ukraine is kinda amazing. It\'s no more a real country than North Korea- a completely fake construct iow. The American people, the most ignorant people on Earth, are being duped about Ukraine. Russia has every right to go in and crack heads when they misbehave.

Russia is run by much the same criminal class as originally took over in the Ukraine. The Ukraine has cleaned up it\'s act a bit since then, while Russia seems to have fallen into the hands of an even more criminal regime.

Russia hasn\'t got any right to crack heads outside of it\'s borders, and that isn\'t what\'s going on. The criminals now ruling Russia want to be able to exploit the Ukraine as well, and are trying to intimidate it into letting them have free reign there as they already do in Russia. This would probably wreck the Ukrainian economy as thoroughly as it has wrecked the Russian economy, and the Ukrainians don\'t want this to happen. Neither does Europe, since they can make more money out of a tolerably well run independent Ukraine than they could out of a country that was being ripped off by Russia.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 

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