the optimal battery

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:57:27 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.misc John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:33:12 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

Do you know if any companies still make large prismatic NiHM cells, in
similar form factors to the flooded aircraft started NiCd batteries?

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http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=large+prismatic+nimh+cells&aq=0&aqi=m1&aql=&oq=large+prismatic+NiHM+cells&gs_rfai=CEAOJYeUfTPLTAofAzQTJ9aHfDQAAAKoEBU_QshOL&fp=bff9aea6fcd663ae

nothing relevent there.

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Checked all 120000 results, did you?

BTW, what do you mean by "flooded aicraft started NiCd batteries"?

here go over every result and tell me what you find

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=aircraft+starting+battery+%2BNiCd+%2Bflooded&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=d2eda4910a7445ea
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Aww... poor baby doesn't want to do her own legwork?

If you're serious in your quest, I suggest you go to:

http://www.concordebattery.com/dealers.php

and peruse the various dealers' web sites for what you want.

Johm Fields
 
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:56:11 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.misc John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:57:27 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.misc John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:33:12 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

Do you know if any companies still make large prismatic NiHM cells, in
similar form factors to the flooded aircraft started NiCd batteries?

---
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=large+prismatic+nimh+cells&aq=0&aqi=m1&aql=&oq=large+prismatic+NiHM+cells&gs_rfai=CEAOJYeUfTPLTAofAzQTJ9aHfDQAAAKoEBU_QshOL&fp=bff9aea6fcd663ae

nothing relevent there.

---

Checked all 120000 results, did you?

BTW, what do you mean by "flooded aicraft started NiCd batteries"?

here go over every result and tell me what you find

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=aircraft+starting+battery+%2BNiCd+%2Bflooded&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=d2eda4910a7445ea

---
Aww... poor baby doesn't want to do her own legwork?

If you're serious in your quest, I suggest you go to:

http://www.concordebattery.com/dealers.php

and peruse the various dealers' web sites for what you want.

Johm Fields

that's a really clever idea, Johm.

I'll call up a company that only make lead acid batteries to buy giant
NiMh cells.
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Well, darn.

I guess you looked through that entire dealer list and couldn't find
even one that carries NiMH batteries?

I would've looked for you, but it's not really my project, is it?

Anyway I guess you missed the part on their home page where there's a
link to NiCd batteries that they supply lead-acid replacements for.

Had you followed that link you most like likely would have found that
there's a company, SAFT, who make giant NiMH batteries, maybe even in
the form factor you're looking for.

They're at:

http://www.saftbatteries.com/

A link to their NiMH line is at:

http://www.saftbatteries.com/Produit_NHP_329_51/Language/en-US/Default.aspx

and if they don't have exactly what you want, I'd bet they know who
does, and a call or an email might get you that info.


If none of that works, go to:

http://www.thomasnet.com/?cov=NA&heading=0000000&pslpid=0000000&WT.mc_t=PPC&WT.mc_n=mcgoog&WT.sem_engine=mcgoog&WT.sem_keyword=thomas+register&WT.srch=1&WT.z_sem_account=1&mctoken=v4v43576Z3a383409656900071272Z3a758Z3a2Z3aZ3aZ3a1662Z3a3f9250d3214e2f9Z3a

and type: "Nickel-Metal Hydride aircraft batteries" into the search
box. That'll take you to:

http://www.thomasnet.com/prodsearch.html?cov=NA&which=prod&what=Nickel-Metal+Hydride+aircraft+batteries

Where, if it's made in the US, you ought to be able to find who makes
it.

Anything else?
 
In sci.electronics.misc John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:57:27 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.misc John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:33:12 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

Do you know if any companies still make large prismatic NiHM cells, in
similar form factors to the flooded aircraft started NiCd batteries?

---
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=large+prismatic+nimh+cells&aq=0&aqi=m1&aql=&oq=large+prismatic+NiHM+cells&gs_rfai=CEAOJYeUfTPLTAofAzQTJ9aHfDQAAAKoEBU_QshOL&fp=bff9aea6fcd663ae

nothing relevent there.

---

Checked all 120000 results, did you?

BTW, what do you mean by "flooded aicraft started NiCd batteries"?

here go over every result and tell me what you find

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=aircraft+starting+battery+%2BNiCd+%2Bflooded&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=d2eda4910a7445ea

---
Aww... poor baby doesn't want to do her own legwork?

If you're serious in your quest, I suggest you go to:

http://www.concordebattery.com/dealers.php

and peruse the various dealers' web sites for what you want.

Johm Fields
Click to expand...
that's a really clever idea, Johm.

I'll call up a company that only make lead acid batteries to buy giant
NiMh cells.
 
in
<http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e98bf317f804eeec>
Rich Delany wrote:
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[1] Battery technology is an active area of research, but an
obvious question occurs to me: why is it, no one has determined
[2] the maximum possible energy/volume, and energy/weight?
[3] And from there, discover the chemistry which achieves it?
[4] Is there some lacuna in our understanding of solid state physics
[5] which necessitates an empirical, rather than theoretical approach>
hanson wrote:
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[1] yes --[2] E/vol = pressure limiat's given by the matl's scaling laws.
[3] Electrochemistry is a mature science - [4] yes , always & ever.
[5] Empirical/experimental work ALWAYS trumps theory.
As you said, this research field is enormously active.
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The chem <-> electric endeavors run from Fuel cells on the
one side to Capacitors at the other. One of the most intriguing
one is the Monolayer battery, so to speak a hybrid been a
capacitor and an electrolyte free battery. In priciple like this:

M1-E----M2: charge M1----E-M2: discharge M1-E----M2,

where M1,2 are monolayers of different Metals and E is the
mobile charge carrier like O, S, or Se. The principle is to use
the electrons' different proximity or position at M1E vs M2E
The potential of its fantastic energy/volume is enormous, but
so are the problems to be overcome in this Nano technology
field. IOW what's attempted here, in a way, is to use a variation
of semiconductor technology as energy storage gizmos.
hanson
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In sci.electronics.misc John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:56:11 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.misc John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:57:27 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.misc John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:33:12 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

Do you know if any companies still make large prismatic NiHM cells, in
similar form factors to the flooded aircraft started NiCd batteries?

---
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=large+prismatic+nimh+cells&aq=0&aqi=m1&aql=&oq=large+prismatic+NiHM+cells&gs_rfai=CEAOJYeUfTPLTAofAzQTJ9aHfDQAAAKoEBU_QshOL&fp=bff9aea6fcd663ae

nothing relevent there.

---

Checked all 120000 results, did you?

BTW, what do you mean by "flooded aicraft started NiCd batteries"?

here go over every result and tell me what you find

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=aircraft+starting+battery+%2BNiCd+%2Bflooded&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=d2eda4910a7445ea

---
Aww... poor baby doesn't want to do her own legwork?

If you're serious in your quest, I suggest you go to:

http://www.concordebattery.com/dealers.php

and peruse the various dealers' web sites for what you want.

Johm Fields

that's a really clever idea, Johm.

I'll call up a company that only make lead acid batteries to buy giant
NiMh cells.

---
Well, darn.

I guess you looked through that entire dealer list and couldn't find
even one that carries NiMH batteries?

I would've looked for you, but it's not really my project, is it?

Anyway I guess you missed the part on their home page where there's a
link to NiCd batteries that they supply lead-acid replacements for.

Had you followed that link you most like likely would have found that
there's a company, SAFT, who make giant NiMH batteries, maybe even in
the form factor you're looking for.

They're at:

http://www.saftbatteries.com/

A link to their NiMH line is at:

http://www.saftbatteries.com/Produit_NHP_329_51/Language/en-US/Default.aspx
Click to expand...
here we go. this is sort of what I'm asking about.
 
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