The nuts are becoming dominant

C

Charles

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Poor signal to noise ratio, lately. Sad to see as this usenet group has
(had?) a lot to offer.
 
"Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Poor signal to noise ratio, lately. Sad to see as this usenet group has
(had?) a lot to offer.
So filter the nuts out. It ain't rocket science ...

Arfa
 
"Phil Allison" wrote in message news:9cqmsvFqo2U1@mid.individual.net...


"Charles"

Poor signalto noise ratio, lately.
** You're an incorrigible fuckwit, Charles

Piss off.


.... Phil

QED
 
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"Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Poor signal to noise ratio, lately. Sad to see as this usenet group
has (had?) a lot to offer.

So filter the nuts out. It ain't rocket science ...

Arfa
It can get pretty tiresome,though.
FAR too many off-topic posts,and many that go on for too long.

My score and kill files are both pretty large.
Of course,some of that are the same idiots with different nyms/sigs.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
 
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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"Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Poor signal to noise ratio, lately. Sad to see as this usenet group
has (had?) a lot to offer.

So filter the nuts out. It ain't rocket science ...

Arfa



It can get pretty tiresome,though.
FAR too many off-topic posts,and many that go on for too long.

My score and kill files are both pretty large.
Of course,some of that are the same idiots with different nyms/sigs.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
Actually though Jim, some of the OT threads are quite entertaining, and I
tend to see them as a bunch of like-minded people having a bit of a rabbit
over a few pints down the local pub. I've never really seen usenet groups as
needing to be 'strict' in that respect. Some can get a bit long though, as
you say ...

Arfa
 
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"Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Poor signal to noise ratio, lately. Sad to see as this usenet
group has (had?) a lot to offer.

So filter the nuts out. It ain't rocket science ...

Arfa



It can get pretty tiresome,though.
FAR too many off-topic posts,and many that go on for too long.

My score and kill files are both pretty large.
Of course,some of that are the same idiots with different nyms/sigs.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Actually though Jim, some of the OT threads are quite entertaining,
and I tend to see them as a bunch of like-minded people having a bit
of a rabbit over a few pints down the local pub. I've never really
seen usenet groups as needing to be 'strict' in that respect. Some can
get a bit long though, as you say ...

Arfa
I have made a few OT posts myself,but usually in response to some comment
the OP or a responder has included in their on-topic posts.
Some of them get way out of hand.
I do agree that it's interesting to know the politics of those who
regularly post in a oft-visited NG.

but there are a lot of trolls who just drop in to seek attention,and
crossposters spamming for "jollies",to piss off a greater pool of people.

No need to keep feeding them and bringing them back for more attention.



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
 
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:10:16 -0500, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov>
wrote:

I have made a few OT posts myself,but usually in response to some comment
the OP or a responder has included in their on-topic posts.
Some of them get way out of hand.
I used to worry about such things as off-topic postings. Then, I
noticed that not one thread, or any reasonable length (about 10
followups) has ever stayed completely on topic. In another newsgroup,
I even went on a search for a long thread, that stayed on topic. Even
the moderated groups didn't have any on-topic threads. So, I gave up
and became part of the problem, where I'm probably the worst offender
in the arcane art of topic drifting.

I do agree that it's interesting to know the politics of those who
regularly post in a oft-visited NG.
I'm not so sure. I had the greatest respect for some usenet
luminaries, until I met them in person. It's difficult to get a good
picture of even regular posters.

but there are a lot of trolls who just drop in to seek attention,and
crossposters spamming for "jollies",to piss off a greater pool of people.
No picnic is complete without the ants, bees, bugs, and slimy things
that crawl into the food. For usenet, I would rather deal with the
pollution, than live with the draconian measures traditionally applied
by usenet policemen.

No need to keep feeding them and bringing them back for more attention.
Feed the pigeons and what do you get? More pigeons.

Sigh. I guess I'll have to add myself to my kill file.

--
# Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
# 831-336-2558
# http://802.11junk.com jeffl@cruzio.com
# http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS
 
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"Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Poor signal to noise ratio, lately. Sad to see as this usenet
group has (had?) a lot to offer.

So filter the nuts out. It ain't rocket science ...

Arfa



It can get pretty tiresome,though.
FAR too many off-topic posts,and many that go on for too long.

My score and kill files are both pretty large.
Of course,some of that are the same idiots with different nyms/sigs.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Actually though Jim, some of the OT threads are quite entertaining,
and I tend to see them as a bunch of like-minded people having a bit
of a rabbit over a few pints down the local pub. I've never really
seen usenet groups as needing to be 'strict' in that respect. Some can
get a bit long though, as you say ...

Arfa



I have made a few OT posts myself,but usually in response to some comment
the OP or a responder has included in their on-topic posts.
Some of them get way out of hand.
I do agree that it's interesting to know the politics of those who
regularly post in a oft-visited NG.

but there are a lot of trolls who just drop in to seek attention,and
crossposters spamming for "jollies",to piss off a greater pool of people.

No need to keep feeding them and bringing them back for more attention.



--
Jim Yanik
Agreed all points

Arfa
 
On 9/9/2011 10:42 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I'm not so sure. I had the greatest respect for some usenet
luminaries, until I met them in person. It's difficult to get a good
picture of even regular posters.
I wasn't that bad was I?

Jeff-1.0

--
"Everything from Crackers to Coffins"
 
On Sep 7, 3:57 pm, "Charles" <charlesschu...@comcast.net> wrote:
Poor signal to noise ratio, lately.  Sad to see as this usenet group has
(had?) a lot to offer.
Not so bad, IMHO. Fully 22 of the first 30 articles I see have
something to do with electronics repair -- a pretty good average for
Usenet. True that some of the responders are creepy stalkers and
creepy regulars, but they provide some on-topic material as well.
 
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 05:27:33 -0500, Jeffrey Angus <grendelair@aim.com>
wrote:

On 9/9/2011 10:42 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I'm not so sure. I had the greatest respect for some usenet
luminaries, until I met them in person. It's difficult to get a good
picture of even regular posters.

I wasn't that bad was I?
Jeff-1.0
Well, I had the advantage of hearing you talk on the air, so my
initial impression was fairly accurate. People write very differently
than they talk. It's far too easy to misinterpret someones writing.
It's less difficult after you talk with them. Other times, it's
differences in culture. For example, I don't get along too well with
the tatoo and piercing people, even if they are intelligent. My
problem, not theirs.

Perception is everything.



--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 05:27:33 -0500, Jeffrey Angus <grendelair@aim.com
wrote:

On 9/9/2011 10:42 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I'm not so sure. I had the greatest respect for some usenet
luminaries, until I met them in person. It's difficult to get a good
picture of even regular posters.

I wasn't that bad was I?
Jeff-1.0

Well, I had the advantage of hearing you talk on the air, so my
initial impression was fairly accurate. People write very differently
than they talk. It's far too easy to misinterpret someones writing.
It's less difficult after you talk with them. Other times, it's
differences in culture. For example, I don't get along too well with
the tatoo and piercing people, even if they are intelligent. My
problem, not theirs.

Perception is everything.
IMO,tattoos and piercings indicate poor judgement.
also a propensity to waste money.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
 
On 9/10/2011 10:44 PM, Jim Yanik wrote:
Jeff Liebermann<jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
For example, I don't get along too well with the tatoo and
piercing people, even if they are intelligent. My problem,
not theirs.

Perception is everything.


IMO,tattoos and piercings indicate poor judgement.
also a propensity to waste money.
A few years back, my son is showing off (and apparently very
proud of) his tongue piercing. So I ask him, "Did you do that
because you're stupid, or did you do that so you would appear
to be stupid?"

His girlfriend sticks out her tongue, "I have one too, I can
give really good head with this."

So I look back at my son, "And YOUR excuse for this again?"

Blank look.

"You can't fix stupid."

Typically, and unfortunately, an abundance of tattoos and
piercings means, "Do Not Hire Me."

Jeff-1.0


--
"Everything from Crackers to Coffins"
 
Jeffrey Angus wrote:
On 9/10/2011 10:44 PM, Jim Yanik wrote:
Jeff Liebermann<jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
For example, I don't get along too well with the tatoo and
piercing people, even if they are intelligent. My problem,
not theirs.

Perception is everything.


IMO,tattoos and piercings indicate poor judgement.
also a propensity to waste money.

A few years back, my son is showing off (and apparently very
proud of) his tongue piercing. So I ask him, "Did you do that
because you're stupid, or did you do that so you would appear
to be stupid?"

His girlfriend sticks out her tongue, "I have one too, I can
give really good head with this."

So I look back at my son, "And YOUR excuse for this again?"

Blank look.

"You can't fix stupid."

Typically, and unfortunately, an abundance of tattoos and
piercings means, "Do Not Hire Me."

Except at a tattoo parlor or motorcycle shop. :)


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
 
On Sep 10, 3:50 pm, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 05:27:33 -0500, Jeffrey Angus <grendel...@aim.com
wrote:

On 9/9/2011 10:42 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I'm not so sure.  I had the greatest respect for some usenet
luminaries, until I met them in person.  It's difficult to get a good
picture of even regular posters.

I wasn't that bad was I?
Jeff-1.0

Well, I had the advantage of hearing you talk on the air, so my
initial impression was fairly accurate.  People write very differently
than they talk.  It's far too easy to misinterpret someones writing.
It's less difficult after you talk with them.  Other times, it's
differences in culture.  For example, I don't get along too well with
the tatoo and piercing people, even if they are intelligent.  My
problem, not theirs.

Perception is everything.
There's a distinction between the tattoo people and the piercing
people, as our niece pointed out: The hardware comes out easily, and
the holes closes or go unnoticed. Tattoos require a lot more work to
eradicate.
 
spamtrap1888 wrote:
On Sep 10, 3:50 pm, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 05:27:33 -0500, Jeffrey Angus <grendel...@aim.com
wrote:

On 9/9/2011 10:42 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I'm not so sure. I had the greatest respect for some usenet
luminaries, until I met them in person. It's difficult to get a good
picture of even regular posters.

I wasn't that bad was I?
Jeff-1.0

Well, I had the advantage of hearing you talk on the air, so my
initial impression was fairly accurate. People write very differently
than they talk. It's far too easy to misinterpret someones writing.
It's less difficult after you talk with them. Other times, it's
differences in culture. For example, I don't get along too well with
the tatoo and piercing people, even if they are intelligent. My
problem, not theirs.

Perception is everything.

There's a distinction between the tattoo people and the piercing
people, as our niece pointed out: The hardware comes out easily, and
the holes closes or go unnoticed. Tattoos require a lot more work to
eradicate.

A belt sander with a # 80 grit belt, or a strong acid works. ;-)


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
 
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 05:27:33 -0500, Jeffrey Angus <grendelair@aim.com
wrote:

On 9/9/2011 10:42 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I'm not so sure. I had the greatest respect for some usenet
luminaries, until I met them in person. It's difficult to get a good
picture of even regular posters.

I wasn't that bad was I?
Jeff-1.0

Well, I had the advantage of hearing you talk on the air, so my
initial impression was fairly accurate. People write very differently
than they talk. It's far too easy to misinterpret someones writing.
It's less difficult after you talk with them. Other times, it's
differences in culture. For example, I don't get along too well with
the tatoo and piercing people, even if they are intelligent. My
problem, not theirs.

Perception is everything.




IMO,tattoos and piercings indicate poor judgement.
also a propensity to waste money.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
Never liked tattoos etc. I think it's a prejudice going back to my fathers'
disdain for them. On the other hand, my (Marine) son has several tats, in
part I think to tweak me...

Mark Z.
 
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"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 05:27:33 -0500, Jeffrey Angus
grendelair@aim.com> wrote:

On 9/9/2011 10:42 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I'm not so sure. I had the greatest respect for some usenet
luminaries, until I met them in person. It's difficult to get a
good picture of even regular posters.

I wasn't that bad was I?
Jeff-1.0

Well, I had the advantage of hearing you talk on the air, so my
initial impression was fairly accurate. People write very
differently than they talk. It's far too easy to misinterpret
someones writing. It's less difficult after you talk with them.
Other times, it's differences in culture. For example, I don't get
along too well with the tatoo and piercing people, even if they are
intelligent. My problem, not theirs.

Perception is everything.




IMO,tattoos and piercings indicate poor judgement.
also a propensity to waste money.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Never liked tattoos etc. I think it's a prejudice going back to my
fathers' disdain for them. On the other hand, my (Marine) son has
several tats, in part I think to tweak me...

Mark Z.
it irks and saddens me to see young women with beautiful clear skin,with a
dark,ugly tat marring it.
from any distance all tats look like skin cancers.
I've seen few tats that improve the appearance of any woman,or that I'd
consider attractive.

Your son's tats aren't to tweak you,they are to establish his "difference"
WRT other people. they are for attention,nothing else.

Plus,many tats are gotten because "everyone else is doing it".
(the WORST reason for doing anything...)

the only good thing I can say about tattoos are that they make
identification of dead bodies easier.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
 
"Jeffrey Angus" <grendelair@aim.com> wrote in message
news:j4hcpu$cbo$1@dont-email.me...
On 9/10/2011 10:44 PM, Jim Yanik wrote:
Jeff Liebermann<jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
For example, I don't get along too well with the tatoo and
piercing people, even if they are intelligent. My problem,
not theirs.

Perception is everything.


IMO,tattoos and piercings indicate poor judgement.
also a propensity to waste money.

A few years back, my son is showing off (and apparently very
proud of) his tongue piercing. So I ask him, "Did you do that
because you're stupid, or did you do that so you would appear
to be stupid?"

His girlfriend sticks out her tongue, "I have one too, I can
give really good head with this."

So I look back at my son, "And YOUR excuse for this again?"

Blank look.

"You can't fix stupid."

Typically, and unfortunately, an abundance of tattoos and
piercings means, "Do Not Hire Me."

Jeff-1.0


--
"Everything from Crackers to Coffins"
Ain't necessarily so. My son (late twenties) has tattoos up and down his
arms, and he holds a well-paid managerial post with a large international
power distribution infrastructure company. He most certainly isn't thick by
any stretch of the imagination. My daughter's fella is ex-army, and also has
many tattoos. He is gainfully employed in the security division of a major
international airport. I actually don't think that they look too bad if well
done, and in moderation. What I don't like to see is the tattoo full
'sleeves', or any work on the hands, face or neck. I especially don't like
to see sleeves on females. I always think that it somehow makes them look
sort of 'dirty' ...

Arfa
 

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