Terrifying warning...

[Phil Allison]

Hi,

\"... the world is going to be blown to pieces \"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXezcmXLgM

Putin keeps threatening the use of Russia\'s nukes if western democracies continue to \"interfere\" with his campaign of mass murder in Ukraine.

The use of just one of them will likely unleash a whirlwind.

Sleep well America, knowing your frighteningly corrupt leaders are both stupid and asleep.



...... Phil

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phil
Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote in
<c2793cfc-d412-47fa-b36d-8a3c906ba1a0n@googlegroups.com>:

Hi,

\"... the world is going to be blown to pieces \"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXezcmXLgM

Putin keeps threatening the use of Russia\'s nukes if western democracies continue to \"interfere\" with his campaign of mass
murder in Ukraine.

The use of just one of them will likely unleash a whirlwind.

Sleep well America, knowing your frighteningly corrupt leaders are both stupid and asleep.



..... Phil

It all depends..
just got an email in German that all my accounts are hacked and they want ?? bitcoins in 72 hours to not do whatever.

Part of it in German:
<quote>
, Ich mache keine Fehler
! Solltest du mit jemanden uber diese E-Mail reden oder zur Polizei gehen so werden die Daten veroffentlicht,
da ich vollen zugriff auf ihre Gerate habe bekomm ich dies naturlich sofort mit.
Wenn Sie bezahlen, brauchen Sie sich keine Sorgen zu machen.
Ich bin ein stolzer Ukrainer und ich halte mein Wort.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dieses Geld wird bei uns momentan sehr dringend benotigt, um diesen Krieg zu beenden,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
deswegen muss ich zu diesem Mittel greifen.
Sobald Sie bezahlen und das Geld auf meiner Wallet eingeht wird der Virus vollig automatisch entfernt und ich losche Ihre Kontaktdaten,
alle Passworter und alle ihre anderen daten von meiner Festplatte,
dann werden sie nie wieder von mir hoheren!
<end quote>

I underlined the part where it says it needs the bitcoins for Ukrain.
Hope Putin nukes the shit out of him before the 73 hours have passed

German readers ?

I did some research and made some calls and now special forces are closing in on the sender.
Am still online
As to that war it was started with Biden, by Biden and his corrupt son, and is all about selling weapons.
I pointed somebody to this song by Bob Dylan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEmI_FT4YHU

says it all.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phil
Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote in
c2793cfc-d412-47fa...@googlegroups.com>:
Hi,

\"... the world is going to be blown to pieces \"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXezcmXLgM

Putin keeps threatening the use of Russia\'s nukes if western democracies continue to \"interfere\" with his campaign of mass murder in Ukraine.

The use of just one of them will likely unleash a whirlwind.

And even a nutcase like Putin should realise that he would be one of the first to get blown away.
With any luck, some Russian will smear Novichok in his underpants - much cheaper than a nuclear weapon, and fewer side-effects.

> >Sleep well America, knowing your frighteningly corrupt leaders are both stupid and asleep.

It\'s not as if Australia is any better off. Dutch politicians are rather less crooked, but they do have less to sell.

> As to that war it was started with Biden, by Biden and his corrupt son, and is all about selling weapons.

Singularly clever of them to persuade the Russian army to invade the Ukraine. It really motivated the Ukranians to buy tank busting shoulder launched anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

Of course if was all about selling weapons they\'d be selling more expensive weapons (like F35 fighters) to people who had a lot more money.

<snip Jan being even sillier than usual>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 07:14:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<600c914f-c8d8-4b46-b921-6b6f6ecebbdbn@googlegroups.com>:

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phil
Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote in
c2793cfc-d412-47fa...@googlegroups.com>:
Hi,

\"... the world is going to be blown to pieces \"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXezcmXLgM

Putin keeps threatening the use of Russia\'s nukes if western democracies continue to \"interfere\" with his campaign of mass
murder in Ukraine.

The use of just one of them will likely unleash a whirlwind.

And even a nutcase like Putin should realise that he would be one of the first to get blown away.
With any luck, some Russian will smear Novichok in his underpants - much cheaper than a nuclear weapon, and fewer side-effects.

Sleep well America, knowing your frighteningly corrupt leaders are both stupid and asleep.

It\'s not as if Australia is any better off. Dutch politicians are rather less crooked, but they do have less to sell.

As to that war it was started with Biden, by Biden and his corrupt son, and is all about selling weapons.

Singularly clever of them to persuade the Russian army to invade the Ukraine.

Biden talked to Putin, remember, likely asked him \"what would it take for us to do to make you invade Ukrain\"

It really motivated the Ukranians to buy tank
busting shoulder launched anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

Of course if was all about selling weapons they\'d be selling more expensive weapons (like F35 fighters) to people who had a lot
more money.

That is what they are doing now in Germany, old equipment goes to Ukrain, and Germany get Fr5 crap


><snip Jan being even sillier than usual>

You sound like just a broken record repeatng what your local brainwashing machine printed on it.
Just a pawn in their game.
Wake up Billy WAKE UP!!!!!

It took many years of Vietnam war before the youngsters rose up and had Woodstock
Country Joe and the fish
https://www.lyricsbox.com/country-joe-and-the-fish-vietnam-song-live-from-woodstock-lyrics-dzgc6jx.html
Military Industrial Complex
Where have you been?

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:18:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

You sound like just a broken record repeatng what your local brainwashing machine printed on it.
Just a pawn in their game.
Wake up Billy WAKE UP!!!!!

It took many years of Vietnam war before the youngsters rose up and had Woodstock
Country Joe and the fish
https://www.lyricsbox.com/country-joe-and-the-fish-vietnam-song-live-from-woodstock-lyrics-dzgc6jx.html
Military Industrial Complex
Where have you been?

One thing Bill Soman absolutely cannot be is brainwashed. In order for
that to be true, he\'d have to have a brain in the first place.
Nothing is as it appears on TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:22:10 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 07:14:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
600c914f-c8d8-4b46...@googlegroups.com>:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phil
Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote in
c2793cfc-d412-47fa...@googlegroups.com>:
Hi,

\"... the world is going to be blown to pieces \"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXezcmXLgM

Putin keeps threatening the use of Russia\'s nukes if western democracies continue to \"interfere\" with his campaign of mass
murder in Ukraine.

The use of just one of them will likely unleash a whirlwind.

And even a nutcase like Putin should realise that he would be one of the first to get blown away.

With any luck, some Russian will smear Novichok in his underpants - much cheaper than a nuclear weapon, and fewer side-effects.

Sleep well America, knowing your frighteningly corrupt leaders are both stupid and asleep.

It\'s not as if Australia is any better off. Dutch politicians are rather less crooked, but they do have less to sell.

As to that war it was started with Biden, by Biden and his corrupt son, and is all about selling weapons.

Singularly clever of them to persuade the Russian army to invade the Ukraine.

Biden talked to Putin, remember, likely asked him \"what would it take for us to do to make you invade Ukraine\".

Jan Panteltje has the same kind of bizarre imagination as John Doe and Cursitor Doom.

It really motivated the Ukranians to buy tank busting shoulder launched anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

Of course if was all about selling weapons they\'d be selling more expensive weapons (like F35 fighters) to people who had a lot more money.

That is what they are doing now in Germany, old equipment goes to Ukraine, and Germany get F35 crap.

The F35 fighter isn\'t actually crap. Jan doesn\'t like it because one flies over his head about once a month - they certainly used to fly low over Nijmegen back when I lived there and it was noisy.

snip Jan being even sillier than usual

You sound like just a broken record repeatng what your local brainwashing machine printed on it.

Funny that you should should mention that. You do seem to re-post a lot of silly propaganda, and may actually believe that other people are just as gullible as you are.

Just a pawn in their game.
Wake up Billy WAKE UP!!!!!

Grow up Jan! Not that there\'s much chance that you could

> It took many years of Vietnam war before the youngsters rose up and had Woodstock.

Australian\'s didn\'t like conscription being reintroduced to provide Australian cannon-fodder for Vietnam. My younger brother was born six weeks premature, six hours before he would have become vulnerable to being called up. Only about 10% of the Australian\'s called up were judged fit enough to be worth conscripting unless they were doctors or dentists or civil engineers (as he was).
Woodstock was 1969. He learned how lucky he been a few years earlier.

> Military Industrial Complex

A term famously used by Eisenhower in 1961.

> Where have you been?

Not under the particular rock where you seem to hang out. Like John Doe and Cursitor Doom, you have your preferred delusions. Not sharing them isn\'t proof of sanity, but anybody who does share any of them has to be crazy.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 8:33:46 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:18:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You sound like just a broken record repeatng what your local brainwashing machine printed on it.
Just a pawn in their game.
Wake up Billy WAKE UP!!!!!

It took many years of Vietnam war before the youngsters rose up and had Woodstock
Country Joe and the fish
https://www.lyricsbox.com/country-joe-and-the-fish-vietnam-song-live-from-woodstock-lyrics-dzgc6jx.html
Military Industrial Complex
Where have you been?

One thing Bill Soman absolutely cannot be is brainwashed. In order for that to be true, he\'d have to have a brain in the first place.

In fact I\'d have to have the kind of deeply defective brain that makes Cursitor Doom an addict to fatuous nonsense. The more fatuous the nonsense, the more avid his enthusiasm.

Nothing is as it appears on TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lara_Logan

She got banned from Fox News for pushing such absurd nonsense that even Fox News had to get shot of her.

Cursitor Doom is clearly even less discriminating than Fox News. Murdoch curates gullilble idiots for his advertisers, but few of them are as gullible as Cursitor Doom.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:07:51 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<a019f887-37b1-4896-87af-6a450a9d40ean@googlegroups.com>:

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:22:10 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 07:14:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthon=
y
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
600c914f-c8d8-4b46...@googlegroups.com>:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:=

On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phi=
l
Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote in
c2793cfc-d412-47fa...@googlegroups.com>:
Hi,

\"... the world is going to be blown to pieces \"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXezcmXLgM

Putin keeps threatening the use of Russia\'s nukes if western democrac=
ies continue to \"interfere\" with his campaign of mass
murder in Ukraine.

The use of just one of them will likely unleash a whirlwind.

And even a nutcase like Putin should realise that he would be one of the=
first to get blown away.

With any luck, some Russian will smear Novichok in his underpants - much=
cheaper than a nuclear weapon, and fewer side-effects.

Sleep well America, knowing your frighteningly corrupt leaders are bo=
th stupid and asleep.

It\'s not as if Australia is any better off. Dutch politicians are rather=
less crooked, but they do have less to sell.

As to that war it was started with Biden, by Biden and his corrupt son=
, and is all about selling weapons.

Singularly clever of them to persuade the Russian army to invade the Ukr=
aine.

Biden talked to Putin, remember, likely asked him \"what would it take for=
us to do to make you invade Ukraine\".

Jan Panteltje has the same kind of bizarre imagination as John Doe and Curs=
itor Doom.

It really motivated the Ukranians to buy tank busting shoulder launched =
anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

Of course if was all about selling weapons they\'d be selling more expens=
ive weapons (like F35 fighters) to people who had a lot more money.

That is what they are doing now in Germany, old equipment goes to Ukraine=
, and Germany get F35 crap.

The F35 fighter isn\'t actually crap. Jan doesn\'t like it because one flies =
over his head about once a month - they certainly used to fly low over Nijm=
egen back when I lived there and it was noisy.

Its a one engine disaster request
a decent fighter hae 2 engines, so if one gete hit it often makes it home on the other one
In case of fuck35 it costs every time a new one: SALES
Snake oil, as is \'stealth\' I can detect the things here in many ways.

snip Jan being even sillier than usual

You sound like just a broken record repeatng what your local brainwashing=
machine printed on it.

Funny that you should should mention that. You do seem to re-post a lot of =
silly propaganda, and may actually believe that other people are just as gu=
llible as you are.

I don\'t post propaganda, merely sometimes try to wake you hypnotized poor humming beans to wake up
!CLICKs fingers ..Will it work for Billy>>> eeeeh

Just a pawn in their game.
Wake up Billy WAKE UP!!!!!

Grow up Jan! Not that there\'s much chance that you could

Yea at my age I wont\'t get any longer, not with US snake oil either

It took many years of Vietnam war before the youngsters rose up and had W=
oodstock.

Australian\'s didn\'t like conscription being reintroduced to provide Austral=
ian cannon-fodder for Vietnam. My younger brother was born six weeks premat=
ure, six hours before he would have become vulnerable to being called up. O=
nly about 10% of the Australian\'s called up were judged fit enough to be w=
orth conscripting unless they were doctors or dentists or civil engineers (=
as he was).
Woodstock was 1969. He learned how lucky he been a few years earlier.

Military Industrial Complex

A term famously used by Eisenhower in 1961.

Where have you been?

Not under the particular rock where you seem to hang out.

Nothing but accusations. snipped.
Well, if the CLICK did not wake you up then \"who is not busy being born is busy dying\" likely applies.
(from one of Bob Dylan\'s songs, yes I had his records, played it a lot in the sixties and early seventies.
Now on mp3 here.

I still get the impression you must have some reason to sing along with Aussies rulers.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:59:37 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:07:51 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in<a019f887-37b1-4896...@googlegroups.com>:
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:22:10 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 07:14:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
600c914f-c8d8-4b46...@googlegroups.com>:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:=
On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phil Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote in
c2793cfc-d412-47fa...@googlegroups.com>:

<snip>

Jan Panteltje has the same kind of bizarre imagination as John Doe and Cursitor Doom.

It really motivated the Ukranians to buy tank busting shoulder launched anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

Of course if was all about selling weapons they\'d be selling more expensive weapons (like F35 fighters) to people who had a lot more money.

That is what they are doing now in Germany, old equipment goes to Ukraine and Germany get F35 crap.

The F35 fighter isn\'t actually crap. Jan doesn\'t like it because one flies = over his head about once a month - they certainly used to fly low over Nijmegen back when I lived there and it was noisy.

Its a one engine disaster request. A decent fighter has 2 engines, so if one gets hit it often makes it home on the other one.

Mostly when jet fighters get hit they fall apart and the pilot has to eject if he wasn\'t hit too.

Civil aircraft are used in rather different ways, and having two engines pays off rather more often.

> In case of F35 it costs every time a new one: SALES

Military aircraft don\'t last, even in peacetime. They are nice little earners for the people who make them.

> Snake oil, as is \'stealth\' I can detect the things here in many ways.

But fast enough to let you shoot it down?

snip Jan being even sillier than usual

You sound like just a broken record repeatng what your local brainwashing machine printed on it.

Funny that you should should mention that. You do seem to re-post a lot of silly propaganda, and may actually believe that other people are just as gullible as you are.

I don\'t post propaganda, merely sometimes try to wake you hypnotized poor human beings to wake up

You are remarkably gullible.

!CLICKs fingers ..Will it work for Billy>>> eeeeh
Just a pawn in their game.
Wake up Billy WAKE UP!!!!!

Grow up Jan! Not that there\'s much chance that you could.

Yes at my age I won\'t get any younger, not with US snake oil either.

Medical science isn\'t exclusively American. Some of it does work, but undoing the effects of aging doesn\'t seem to be one of the tricks that it has mastered yet.

It took many years of Vietnam war before the youngsters rose up and had Woodstock.

Australian\'s didn\'t like conscription being reintroduced to provide Australian cannon-fodder for Vietnam. My younger brother was born six weeks premature, six hours before he would have become vulnerable to being called up.. Only about 10% of the Australian\'s called up were judged fit enough to be worth conscripting, unless they were doctors or dentists or civil engineers (as he was).
Woodstock was 1969. He learned how lucky he been a few years earlier.

Military Industrial Complex

A term famously used by Eisenhower in 1961.

Where have you been?

Not under the particular rock where you seem to hang out.

Nothing but accusations. snipped.

I\'m not accusing you of anything. I am pointing out that you do seem to be gullible and ill-informed, but those are observations, not accusations.

> Well, if the CLICK did not wake you up then \"who is not busy being born is busy dying\" likely applies.

You do start getting older as soon as you are conceived - being born doesn\'t make any difference to that. Aging does reliably end in death, but you can\'t be said to be dying until the problem that eventually kills you has become obvious enough to notice.

<snipped more idiocy>

> I still get the impression you must have some reason to sing along with Aussies rulers.

I don\'t. I agree with them when they get stuff right, which doesn\'t happen all that often. \"All the way with LBJ\" went down better with some Australian politicians than it did with the country as a whole. Mark Rutte is a much better politician than any of the prime ministers we\'ve had since Rutte came to power.

Julia Gillard - who was in power from 2010 to 2013 - might have been in the same league, but Kevin Rudd - who replaced her as leader of the Labor Party, promptly lost the next election to the appalling Tony Abbott, who lasted for almost two years 2013 to 2015 until his party realised what a cretin he was and replaced him by Malcom Turnbull, who was a whole lot better and consequently unacceptable to the right wing of the Liberal Party and only lasted from 2015 to 2018, when he got replaced by Scott Morrison - Scottie from Marketing - who been prime minister since then, and has not done anything positive enough to get himself kicked out. He did promise to install a Federal Independent Commission Against Corruption at the last election, but had to propose such a toothless authority that he couldn\'t get anybody in the Senate to vote for it - anything with any real power to root out corruption would have put most of his cabinet into prison. We\'ve got an election coming up in a couple of weeks, and he will lose if the polls are to be relied on (which they aren\'t).

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 27 Apr 2022 06:33:11 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<9ab3b692-e863-4f61-89f3-48c2232d0c3an@googlegroups.com>:

>On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:59:37 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

...F35..

Its a one engine disaster request. A decent fighter has 2 engines, so if =
one gets hit it often makes it home on the other one.

Mostly when jet fighters get hit they fall apart and the pilot has to eject=
if he wasn\'t hit too.

I have read stries of jet pilots in a war situation who made it back with one engine
buys you a lot of chocolade

Civil aircraft are used in rather different ways, and having two engines pa=
ys off rather more often.

In case of F35 it costs every time a new one: SALES

Military aircraft don\'t last, even in peacetime. They are nice little earne=
rs for the people who make them.

Right the Militatry Industrial Complex

Snake oil, as is \'stealth\' I can detect the things here in many ways.

But fast enough to let you shoot it down?

Depends on the situation and weapon,
sure if you have the laser gun you just burn a hole, in the jet and / or the pilot
If it is not supersonic any missile that can detect its heat signature or what it looks like (object recognision) will do.
Here they never fly fast but low and slow, any kid with a slingshot next to where they land will do.
Start a swarm of 50 dollar drones in the takeoff path, local agent is all you need.

Grow up Jan! Not that there\'s much chance that you could.

Yes at my age I won\'t get any younger, not with US snake oil either.

Medical science isn\'t exclusively American. Some of it does work, but undoi=
ng the effects of aging doesn\'t seem to be one of the tricks that it has ma=
stered yet.

Depends:
skin cells made 30 years younger:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220408083901.htm

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:24:18 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 27 Apr 2022 06:33:11 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
9ab3b692-e863-4f61...@googlegroups.com>:
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:59:37 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
..F35..
Its a one engine disaster request. A decent fighter has 2 engines, so if =
one gets hit it often makes it home on the other one.

Mostly when jet fighters get hit they fall apart and the pilot has to eject if he wasn\'t hit too.

I have read stories of jet pilots in a war situation who made it back with one engine - buys you a lot of chocolate

But you can\'t post a link to any of them. Jet bombers frequently have several engines, and we were talking about fighters.

Civil aircraft are used in rather different ways, and having two engines pays off rather more often.

In case of F35 it costs every time a new one: SALES

Military aircraft don\'t last, even in peacetime. They are nice little earners for the people who make them.

Right the Military Industrial Complex.

Not necessarily. Aircraft manufacturers tend to make both military and civil aircraft. The skills are much the same, even if the aircraft aren\'t.

Snake oil, as is \'stealth\' I can detect the things here in many ways.

But fast enough to let you shoot it down?

Depends on the situation and weapon, sure if you have the laser gun you just burn a hole, in the jet and / or the pilot.

Does any such \"laser gun\" actually exist? The Americans did put a high power laser into fairly big freight-carrying aircraft, but it didn\'t work well enough to become any kind of weapon system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_Laser

If it is not supersonic any missile that can detect its heat signature or what it looks like (object recognision) will do.
Here they never fly fast but low and slow, any kid with a slingshot next to where they land will do.
Start a swarm of 50 dollar drones in the takeoff path, local agent is all you need.

That\'s why airfields have local radar. You\'d better think that one out again. \"Low and slow\" just means not supersonic.

Planes that are set up for terrain-following have to have control systems that don\'t shake their pilots to death.

Grow up Jan! Not that there\'s much chance that you could.

Yes at my age I won\'t get any younger, not with US snake oil either.

Medical science isn\'t exclusively American. Some of it does work, but undoing the effects of aging doesn\'t seem to be one of the tricks that it has mastered yet.

Depends: skin cells made 30 years younger:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220408083901.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babraham_Institute

The usual sort of puff for some very leading edge research that is a long way from any practical application.

I worked in Cambridge from 1983 to 1993, and lots of university researchers were convinced that their research would solve our practical problems.

We were rather better at solving their practical problems (which were frequently trivial) than they were at solving ours (which tended to be rather more complicated than they\'d imagined).

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:57:39 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<4a1fbaa5-fc08-4fc3-944b-3c1bbb494354n@googlegroups.com>:

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:24:18 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 27 Apr 2022 06:33:11 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
9ab3b692-e863-4f61...@googlegroups.com>:
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:59:37 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
..F35..
Its a one engine disaster request. A decent fighter has 2 engines, so if =
one gets hit it often makes it home on the other one.

Mostly when jet fighters get hit they fall apart and the pilot has to eject if he wasn\'t hit too.

I have read stories of jet pilots in a war situation who made it back with one engine - buys you a lot of chocolate

But you can\'t post a link to any of them. Jet bombers frequently have several engines, and we were talking about fighters.

Civil aircraft are used in rather different ways, and having two engines pays off rather more often.

In case of F35 it costs every time a new one: SALES

Military aircraft don\'t last, even in peacetime. They are nice little earners for the people who make them.

Right the Military Industrial Complex.

Not necessarily. Aircraft manufacturers tend to make both military and civil aircraft. The skills are much the same, even if the
aircraft aren\'t.

Snake oil, as is \'stealth\' I can detect the things here in many ways.

But fast enough to let you shoot it down?

Depends on the situation and weapon, sure if you have the laser gun you just burn a hole, in the jet and / or the pilot.

Does any such \"laser gun\" actually exist? The Americans did put a high power laser into fairly big freight-carrying aircraft,
but it didn\'t work well enough to become any kind of weapon system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_Laser

Basically all you need is to blind the pilot
Sure they may have laser glasses that should block part of the spectrum, but there are many lasers in the visible with high power.
There is a history of incidents of people shining lasers at civilian aircraft (and also cars) causing vision problems experienced by the pilots.
Those are mostly just 1 W or so lasers , you can get kW on ebay.

If it is not supersonic any missile that can detect its heat signature or what it looks like (object recognision) will do.
Here they never fly fast but low and slow, any kid with a slingshot next to where they land will do.
Start a swarm of 50 dollar drones in the takeoff path, local agent is all you need.

That\'s why airfields have local radar. You\'d better think that one out again. \"Low and slow\" just means not supersonic.

You\'d better get here and see for yurself, I was next to the planes taking off here, there is a parking place there
http://panteltje.com/pub/leeuwarden_approach_imag0035.jpg
http://panteltje.com/pub/leeuwarden_start_landing_strip_imag0036.jpg

Planes that are set up for terrain-following have to have control systems that don\'t shake their pilots to death.

Grow up Jan! Not that there\'s much chance that you could.

Yes at my age I won\'t get any younger, not with US snake oil either.

Medical science isn\'t exclusively American. Some of it does work, but undoing the effects of aging doesn\'t seem to be one of
the tricks that it has mastered yet.

Depends: skin cells made 30 years younger:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220408083901.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babraham_Institute

The usual sort of puff for some very leading edge research that is a long way from any practical application.

I worked in Cambridge from 1983 to 1993, and lots of university researchers were convinced that their research would solve our
practical problems.

We were rather better at solving their practical problems (which were frequently trivial) than they were at solving ours (which
tended to be rather more complicated than they\'d imagined).

Many things are simple, so was the steam engine, the diesel engine and the rocket engine
Took a while though

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:47:21 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:

Cursitor Doom wrote:

Nothing is as it appears on TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs
Thanks.

https://youtu.be/bjGig5dhnSs?t=332

\"We have completely crushed his economy\"

That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

\"Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro\" (not the closing price)

Fox News\' most recent video about Ukraine...

https://youtu.be/VGnvixtDZJQ

\"Biden requests more military aid for Ukraine: \'This fight is not cheap\'\"

74.2% Dislikes

As with every such video on Fox, it\'s like a broken record, the vast
majority of regular Fox viewer comments want us to stay out of the
Ukraine-Russia conflict.

Fox News is designed to appeal to gullilble idiots. That\'s Murdoch\'s business model

> Not mentioning other channels because liberals all over the world are head over heels in love with neocons.

By \"liberals\" John Doe presumably means the majority who aren\'t gullible idiots. Actual neo-conservatives were a bunch of dangerous clowns

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

and nobody sane regrets their departure. The Iraq disaster discredited them with people who could think, who do seem to be a majority of the population. John Doe isn\'t one of them.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:49:02 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> Biill is a cannibal leftist in love with neocons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

There aren\'t actually any around for anybody to fall in love with. They are as mythical as John Doe\'s \"cannibal leftists\". I didn\'t think much of them when the were active in Iraq, some twenty years ago, and I still think they were a bunch of half-wits.

<snipped the usual recycled insults, which are even more pathetic out of context>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Doe]

https://youtu.be/sKFdNnlTbG4?t=28

\"We fight for this New World Order for the Democratic countries\"

A comment...

\"you werent supposed to read the script word for word lady\"

lol

 

[Phil Allison]

John Dope wrote:
================

Nothing is as it appears on TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs
Thanks.

https://youtu.be/bjGig5dhnSs?t=332

\"We have completely crushed his economy\"

That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

\"Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro\" (not the closing price)

Fox News\' most recent video about Ukraine...

https://youtu.be/VGnvixtDZJQ

\"Biden requests more military aid for Ukraine: \'This fight is not cheap\'\"

74.2% Dislikes

** Naturally - since Fox viewers all hate Biden and the looney Dems.
But there is near zero support for the Russians.

As with every such video on Fox, it\'s like a broken record, the vast
majority of regular Fox viewer comments want us to stay out of the
Ukraine-Russia conflict.

** Staying out of all foreign wars is a broken record for small minded Yanks .

Others however can see disaster waits down that narrow path.


...... Phil

 

[John Doe]

Ironically... Those who refer to us Americans as \"Yanks\" bash us for being
IN wars. If you want us to do your fighting for you, you definitely should
not be insulting us. But apparently insult is the Australian way.

If Ukraine is so important... Go get \'em Tiger.

Phil\'s conversations are entertaining as watching The Fifth Element (1997)
alien trying to keep it together in his human skin...

https://youtu.be/sFAPW3W2yMk?t=165 (PG, ~20 seconds)

 

[Phil Allison]

John Dopehead wrote:

=====================

Ironically... Those who refer to us Americans as \"Yanks\" bash us for being
IN wars.

** However, I just posted the *direct opposite* idea.

If you want us to do your fighting for you, you definitely should
not be insulting us. But apparently insult is the Australian way.

** Aussies have fully supported US forces in many wars:
Throughout WW2, in Korea, in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
Our military, navy and airmen carry out training with US ones.
We buy & fly US made aircraft, F18s and C130s among others.
Recently we signed a mutual security pact:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AUKUS

> If Ukraine is so important..

** Its who\'s next that matters most.

> Phil\'s conversations are entertaining

** While yours are laughable and absurd.
As one might expect from a complete jerk.


..... Phil

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 3:37:36 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> Bill is a cannibal leftist madly in love with neocons.

John Doe believes in \"cannibal leftists\" and \"neocons\".

The former seem to be entirely a figment of his demented imagination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

did actually exist, once. It came to prominence in the US when they engineered the disastrous invasion of Iraq.

I didn\'t think much of them at the time, and everybody sane now shares that opinion.

John Doe isn\'t remotely sane.

<snipped the rest of his recycled abuse. It was fatuous nonsense when he first posted it, and it is just as fatuous now>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 02:47:13 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<always.look@message.header> wrote:

Cursitor Doom wrote:

Nothing is as it appears on TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs

Thanks.

https://youtu.be/bjGig5dhnSs?t=332

\"We have completely crushed his economy\"

That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

\"Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro\" (not the closing price)

Fox News\' most recent video about Ukraine...

https://youtu.be/VGnvixtDZJQ

\"Biden requests more military aid for Ukraine: \'This fight is not cheap\'\"

74.2% Dislikes

As with every such video on Fox, it\'s like a broken record, the vast
majority of regular Fox viewer comments want us to stay out of the
Ukraine-Russia conflict.

I can\'t see any follow-up comments actually in support of the war in
Ukraine. It seems incredible how our so-called \"leaders\" can be so out
of whack with our legitimate interests and keep getting away with it.
We just go from one futile, ruinously-expensive foreign entanglement
to the next to the next to the next. Then as soon as a President comes
along who genuinely tries to put a stop to this insanity, \'they\' - the
deep state/shadow government - find a way to get rid of him and
install yet another of their stooges in his place and it\'s straight
back to business as usual.