Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.

[Don McKenzie]

Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?

Cheers Don...

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[Adrian Jansen]

On 5/9/2010 8:07 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a
phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?

Cheers Don...

================


Good thinking Don. Did not even know one could opt out of the phone

book service. Pity Telstra dont show it on their website - or at least
anywhere easily visible.

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[Sylvia Else]

On 5/09/2010 1:16 PM, kreed wrote:

For me, the book is better than online.

The only time I use the book is to look up Optus support when my
Internet service goes down (which it rarely does).

Sylvia.

 

[kreed]

On Sep 5, 8:07 am, Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote:

Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?

Cheers Don...

They drive along in a ute with them stacked on the back and several
guys grab an armload of books and run from house to house dropping one
at every house.
I didn't see them looking at any list as they did this.


For me, the book is better than online.
The book you see the entire category in the book on the page in front
of you, can make notes etc. Also doesnt throw irrelevant "out of area"
numbers like online does.

Online you have to fiddle around with a few entries per page then put
up with this "click to see more detail", "click to see next page"
bullshit.

Admittedly though, for a lot of things now, I just do a google search
for example "plumber - town X"

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[keithr]

On 5/09/2010 8:07 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a
phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?

Cheers Don...

================


The French did this 30 years or so ago. They *GAVE* everybody a terminal

connected to the phone number database (and more).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel

 

[John Tserkezis]

Don McKenzie wrote:

Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a
phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?

Because they're idiots and they're not going to listen anyway.

I still have a listing for my BBS number that I gave up due to disuse
nearly a decade ago.
It's still there *today*. And was a real Telstra connection too, not
listed via optus or anything like that, and they STILL can't get that right.

I'm way past the CD/DVDROM alternative, they have their heads so far up
their collective arses, that's not going to happen citing "intellectual
property rights" as the reason.

Website access is so hopelessly useless I don't use it any more.
Again, I'm still finding yellow pages entries appears more than five
years after the company has gone bust.

Basically, if I'm looking for a vendor, yellow pages is wasting my time
chasing shops that don't exist any more. Same for white pages
commercial. And residential for that matter.


So let's face it, if these retards can't get the very *basic* function
of removing old entries, then what makes you thing they give a shit
about changing from paper format to something else?
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[SG1]

"Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message news:4C82C30D.8010102@2.5A...

Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a
phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?

Cheers Don...

================

Problem there Don, 2nd son uses old books to prop up bikes (2 wheeled type)
also what about the wardrobes countrywide with 3 legs. Short people and high
cupboards. Doing away with phonebooks will impinge on the freedom of the
height challenged.

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[Dennis]

"SG1" <lostitall@the.races> wrote in message
news:n_Ggo.68562$wJ1.8389@newsfe08.iad...

"Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message news:4C82C30D.8010102@2.5A...
Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a
phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?

Cheers Don...

================

Problem there Don, 2nd son uses old books to prop up bikes (2 wheeled
type) also what about the wardrobes countrywide with 3 legs. Short people
and high cupboards. Doing away with phonebooks will impinge on the freedom
of the height challenged.

& the ever present office pc monitor stand.

 

[Don McKenzie]

On 5/09/2010 5:43 PM, terryc wrote:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:07:09 +1000, Don McKenzie wrote:

Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a
phone directory for many years. So why not stop phone books being
delivered?

Well, the power goes off due to a house fault and you need to call an
electrician, what do you do?

I figure you do the same as when your hard drive crashes and you have no backup. You panic! Then you ask this group how
you can get your data from a dead drive.

I have always kept a standard 50VDC operated phone plugged in. "I MEAN ALWAYS". You don't need one plugged in, just
handy, but mine is. That way, when I need to count to a 100+ for some silly reason, and don't need a phone ring
disruption, I drop it off the hook. Saves the batteries on the wireless phones also.

And the Sparkies fridge magnet is on the fridge where it belongs.

Cheers Don...

=======================================


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[Don McKenzie]

On 5/09/2010 5:55 PM, Dennis wrote:

Problem there Don, 2nd son uses old books to prop up bikes (2 wheeled
type) also what about the wardrobes countrywide with 3 legs. Short people
and high cupboards. Doing away with phonebooks will impinge on the freedom
of the height challenged.



& the ever present office pc monitor stand.

New Uses for That Old Phone Book

1) Use your phone book to do your crafts on. Open up the book and work on your projects (painting, glitter, or anything
else that is messy). When your project is complete, just tear and dispose of the pages.

2) A phone book can be an instant booster seat. Stack one for a tall child or a few for the smaller kids. If you are
ambitious, you could make a “ghetto booster seat” (this name was made by my husband). Cover the booster seat with the
comics section of the paper or with vinyl to make an inexpensive seat for your child.

3) Tear pages out to use for packing material. This is a creative and free solution for all of those Ebay packages you
are shipping!

4) The pages of the book can be used to wipe down windows. Use your favorite cleaning solution and wad the torn pieces
to do a quick (lint free) swipe on the windows.

5) Do paper crafts using the phone book pages. Paper airplanes & origami can be done using the old pages. This is great
for the children who like to continuously practice on new sheets of paper.

6) Old phone book pages can be a creative gift-wrapping solution. For example, wrapping phone cards or a gift card to a
restaurant, pizza, books, massage, etc.. (pull that section of the phone book out for wrapping these gifts) is a free
alternative to pricey gift wrap.

7) Stick the old phone book into your car for the unexpected calls. If you need to make a reservation, set up an
appointment, or are looking for a particular business & are lost- just pull out the phone book to find the respective
number. No need to call for information if it is right there in your car!

===============

Possibly 100's of other uses that google didn't find in a hurry, or I couldn't be bothered chasing, but for mine, I just
cancelled all delivery of phone books.

I have a netbook with an 11 hour battery, and a USB wireless modem, for when I really get into strife without power.

When I fall off the perch, all I ask is for is my netbook, and a good broadband wireless connection.

Cheers Don...



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[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Don McKenzie wrote

Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a phone
directory for many years. So why not stop phone books being delivered?

Well, the power goes off due to a house fault and you need to call an electrician, what do you do?

I dont need to call an electrician, I fix it myself.

 

[kreed]

On Sep 5, 4:39 pm, John Tserkezis
<j...@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote:

Don McKenzie wrote:
Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/
I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a
phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?

 Because they're idiots and they're not going to listen anyway.

 I still have a listing for my BBS number that I gave up due to disuse
nearly a decade ago.
 It's still there *today*.  And was a real Telstra connection too, not
listed via optus or anything like that, and they STILL can't get that right.

 I'm way past the CD/DVDROM alternative, they have their heads so far up
their collective arses, that's not going to happen citing "intellectual
property rights" as the reason.

 Website access is so hopelessly useless I don't use it any more.
Again, I'm still finding yellow pages entries appears more than five
years after the company has gone bust.

 Basically, if I'm looking for a vendor, yellow pages is wasting my time
chasing shops that don't exist any more.  Same for white pages
commercial.  And residential for that matter.

 So let's face it, if these retards can't get the very *basic* function
of removing old entries, then what makes you thing they give a shit
about changing from paper format to something else?
--
Heads I win... DITTO tails

You reminded me, we had a new number connected a few years back and
kept getting calls regarding organ lessons.
After being told that "we had an advert in yellow pages" I looked up
"music tuition" and sure enough there was a business card sized ad
for "teaching organ and piano lessons". That edition had another 9
months to run until the next book was issued.

That doesn't count the number of people that probably keep using old
directories for some time after they are redundant like those who keep
it with the second
phone, in the shed etc, or have written lots of numbers or notes in
the covers and don't want to toss these out.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message news:4C82C30D.8010102@2.5A...

Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a
phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?

**I concur, EXCEPT for the Yellow Pages. Not that the Yellow Pages is so
good, it's just that the Yellow Pages on-line is utterly hopeless. I NEVER
get a sensible response. Not ever. White Pages on-line are fine.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[terryc]

On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:07:09 +1000, Don McKenzie wrote:

Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a
phone directory for many years. So why not stop phone books being
delivered?

Well, the power goes off due to a house fault and you need to call an
electrician, what do you do?

 

[Grant]

On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:37:52 +1000, "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

"Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message news:4C82C30D.8010102@2.5A...
Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a
phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?


**I concur, EXCEPT for the Yellow Pages. Not that the Yellow Pages is so
good, it's just that the Yellow Pages on-line is utterly hopeless. I NEVER
get a sensible response. Not ever. White Pages on-line are fine.

I'm in the country, so yellow and white are some volume, just need a few
more to get a computer box a little higher off the floor

Grant.

 

[kreed]

On Sep 5, 7:37 pm, "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

"Don McKenzie" <5...@2.5A> wrote in messagenews:4C82C30D.8010102@2.5A...
Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a
phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?

**I concur, EXCEPT for the Yellow Pages. Not that the Yellow Pages is so
good, it's just that the Yellow Pages on-line is utterly hopeless. I NEVER
get a sensible response. Not ever. White Pages on-line are fine.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

The white pages online is quicker than using the book, one problem is
getting all the shitty out of area listings, even if you specify an
area or postcode.
Also more accurate, as if people move, it can be up to a year until
the printed book is updated.

 

[terryc]

On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:29:39 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Well, the power goes off due to a house fault and you need to call an
electrician, what do you do?

I dont need to call an electrician, I fix it myself.

If it is in the part you can fix.

 

[Rod Speed]

Trevor Wilson wrote

Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote

Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I haven't looked in a phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?

I concur,

I dont, essentially because the delivery currently doesnt
take any notice of who wants a physical phone book.

I cant see that changing any time soon.

It would certainly be better if they had a massive great pile for
people to help themselves from at say the post office etc tho.

Thats going to be operationally awkward tho.

EXCEPT for the Yellow Pages. Not that the Yellow Pages is so good, it's just that the Yellow Pages on-line is utterly
hopeless. I NEVER get a sensible response. Not ever.

I do, but then I am in a country town.

I'm just about to try to chase up some of unusual obsolete metal
cabinets nationally, now that I can call anywhere for 10c per call
on viop, going to be interesting to see how that goes using it.

White Pages on-line are fine.

My main problem with that is that it isnt as useful as the DTMS
when you dont even know the state, with someone with an unusual
name that has moved and you dont know where they have gone at all.

The reverse phone directory should be fine for that, but it isnt free anymore.

 

[Rod Speed]

kreed wrote

Trevor Wilson <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote

Tell Telstra to stop sending you dead trees.
https://www.directoryselect.com.au/ds/

I was asking about this a couple of days ago, as I
haven't looked in a phone directory for many years.
So why not stop phone books being delivered?

I concur, EXCEPT for the Yellow Pages. Not that the
Yellow Pages is so good, it's just that the Yellow Pages
on-line is utterly hopeless. I NEVER get a sensible
response. Not ever. White Pages on-line are fine.

The white pages online is quicker than using the book,
one problem is getting all the shitty out of area listings,
even if you specify an area or postcode.

Also more accurate, as if people move, it can be up to a year until
the printed book is updated.

And the map is very convenient if you want to show up in person.

Very handy for shops that have moved etc.

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote

Well, the power goes off due to a house fault
and you need to call an electrician, what do you do?

I dont need to call an electrician, I fix it myself.

If it is in the part you can fix.

Its always in the part I can fix.

I wired the entire house myself and got an electrician to say he had done it.

He had a bit of a whine about where I had tidily wired inside a 100x100mm RHS column
which has 8 light switches let into it, I twisted the invidual wires that belonged together
because I took the TPS shieth off the cables because there wasnt enough room to
get them thru the massive great 150x100x10mm RHS beam across the top.

He only whined about it because no electrician would have
done it like that even tho it was perfectly legal to do it like that.

If I cant do it myself, I would have the phone number on the laptop for someone who could.