Tektronix

[bitrex]

the first sentence on the "Oscilloscopes" page of Tek's current web site
says:

"What is an oscilloscope?

The oscilloscope is basically a graph-displaying device – it draws a
graph of an electrical signal. In most applications, the graph shows how
signals change over time."

Yo, what the fuck happened to this company?

 

[Tauno Voipio]

On 23.9.19 09:09, bitrex wrote:

the first sentence on the "Oscilloscopes" page of Tek's current web site
says:

"What is an oscilloscope?

The oscilloscope is basically a graph-displaying device – it draws a
graph of an electrical signal. In most applications, the graph shows how
signals change over time."

Yo, what the fuck happened to this company?

It's not the company, but their customers - the new engineers.

--

-TV

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:0kZhF.558077$6H5.283796@fx45.iad:

the first sentence on the "Oscilloscopes" page of Tek's current
web site says:

"What is an oscilloscope?

The oscilloscope is basically a graph-displaying device – it
draws a graph of an electrical signal. In most applications, the
graph shows how signals change over time."

Yo, what the fuck happened to this company?

What is it you are having a problem with?

Maybe you do not actually know what an oscilliscope is.

Electrical signals typically "oscillate" and a "scope" for viewing
them is a device which plots out moments of those signals in the form
of a graph plot to show how said signals change over time.

You getting weird over their fundamental description is funny.

 

On Monday, 23 September 2019 10:31:06 UTC+1, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:0kZhF.558077$6H5.283796@fx45.iad:

the first sentence on the "Oscilloscopes" page of Tek's current
web site says:

"What is an oscilloscope?

The oscilloscope is basically a graph-displaying device – it
draws a graph of an electrical signal. In most applications, the
graph shows how signals change over time."

Yo, what the fuck happened to this company?

What is it you are having a problem with?

Maybe you do not actually know what an oscilliscope is.

Electrical signals typically "oscillate"

no

and a "scope" for viewing
them is a device which plots out moments of those signals in the form
of a graph plot to show how said signals change over time.

You getting weird over their fundamental description is funny.

Anyone who needs to be told what an oscilloscope does is not a potential customer. Potential customers don't appreciate being treated like 3 year olds.. They've dropped the ball.


NT

 

On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 14:14:01 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:kljhoeh7as6pgv291gt0q9jqa6kp4hjpu2@4ax.com:

No, Tek has deteriorated.

Johnny is an idiot.

Have you tried a Rigol scope?

Or a Tek lately? They tend to be buggy, and there's no support
available because they apparently don't control the code.

I had the same problem with a low-end Keithley bench DVM. They can't
fix bugs because they didn't design the box.

I think Tek and Keysight still engineer the high-end scopes, the
fraction of a megabuck stuff, so they can support those. They
offloaded the lower end stuff, just rebrand commodity products. Often
you will see exactly the same instrument sold under multiple names,
and a lot cheaper than Tek or Keithley.

My bench scope is the 4-channel 500 MHz Rigol. I had a 200 MHz Tek,
but it had horrible stupid triggering bugs that they wouldn't fix. It
didn't actually deliver clean gaussian 200 MHz response; they
over-peaked it badly. And it took minutes to power up.

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:kljhoeh7as6pgv291gt0q9jqa6kp4hjpu2@4ax.com:

> No, Tek has deteriorated.

Johnny is an idiot.

 

On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 10:33:29 +0300, Tauno Voipio
<tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> wrote:

On 23.9.19 09:09, bitrex wrote:
the first sentence on the "Oscilloscopes" page of Tek's current web site
says:

"What is an oscilloscope?

The oscilloscope is basically a graph-displaying device – it draws a
graph of an electrical signal. In most applications, the graph shows how
signals change over time."

Yo, what the fuck happened to this company?


It's not the company, but their customers - the new engineers.

No, Tek has deteriorated. We buy Rigol. If you're going to get a scope
designed, programmed, and built in China, why pay Tek to be the
middleman? It's not as if they can provide much support.

https://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/

Hey, they assume that we already know what an oscilloscope is.

 

tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote in
news:05608f78-8f20-4e37-a08e-f2cf3e9540a8@googlegroups.com:

Anyone who needs to be told what an oscilloscope does is not a
potential customer.

You obviously have no grasp as to why a customer visits a
metrological instrument maker's web pages.

Most have comprehensive information resources, not merely the
instruments themselves.

You being peeved about some odd percetion you have about what a
customer would feel about seeing that opening page is actually pretty
funny.

Potential customers don't appreciate being
treated like 3 year olds.

Nope. You get that treatment after you show up here barking out
childish complaints about feelings no other customers experience from
seeing that page.

> They've dropped the ball.

Nope. They are one of the top players.
It is like picking AMD or Intel and then thinking the other is lost
or will lose some imagined race.

 

[George Herold]

On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 10:03:26 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 10:33:29 +0300, Tauno Voipio
tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> wrote:

On 23.9.19 09:09, bitrex wrote:
the first sentence on the "Oscilloscopes" page of Tek's current web site
says:

"What is an oscilloscope?

The oscilloscope is basically a graph-displaying device – it draws a
graph of an electrical signal. In most applications, the graph shows how
signals change over time."

Yo, what the fuck happened to this company?


It's not the company, but their customers - the new engineers.

No, Tek has deteriorated. We buy Rigol. If you're going to get a scope
designed, programmed, and built in China, why pay Tek to be the
middleman? It's not as if they can provide much support.

https://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/

Hey, they assume that we already know what an oscilloscope is.

Tek was bought by Danaher. I really like my new keysight 'scope.
DSOX1102G. I say they have a four channel version.

George H.

 

On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 09:45:40 -0500, "Tim Williams"
<tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> wrote:

"bitrex" <user@example.net> wrote in message
news:0kZhF.558077$6H5.283796@fx45.iad...
the first sentence on the "Oscilloscopes" page of Tek's current web site
says:

"What is an oscilloscope?

The oscilloscope is basically a graph-displaying device – it draws a
graph of an electrical signal. In most applications, the graph shows how
signals change over time."

Yo, what the fuck happened to this company?

Duh... managers in charge of purchasing?

Tim

Bean counters in charge of everything.

 

[Tim Williams]

"bitrex" <user@example.net> wrote in message
news:0kZhF.558077$6H5.283796@fx45.iad...

the first sentence on the "Oscilloscopes" page of Tek's current web site
says:

"What is an oscilloscope?

The oscilloscope is basically a graph-displaying device – it draws a
graph of an electrical signal. In most applications, the graph shows how
signals change over time."

Yo, what the fuck happened to this company?

Duh... managers in charge of purchasing?

Tim

--
Seven Transistor Labs, LLC
Electrical Engineering Consultation and Design
Website: https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/

 

[bitrex]

On 9/23/19 10:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 10:33:29 +0300, Tauno Voipio
tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> wrote:

On 23.9.19 09:09, bitrex wrote:
the first sentence on the "Oscilloscopes" page of Tek's current web site
says:

"What is an oscilloscope?

The oscilloscope is basically a graph-displaying device – it draws a
graph of an electrical signal. In most applications, the graph shows how
signals change over time."

Yo, what the fuck happened to this company?


It's not the company, but their customers - the new engineers.

No, Tek has deteriorated. We buy Rigol. If you're going to get a scope
designed, programmed, and built in China, why pay Tek to be the
middleman? It's not as if they can provide much support.

https://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/

Hey, they assume that we already know what an oscilloscope is.

Yeah beyond just having some really questionable advertising copy their
"budget" 'scopes seem really overpriced for what they offer.

Maybe they think "Nobody ever got fired for buying Tek!" eeeehh...idk
about that it worked for IBM but Rigol very much gives them a run for
the money. I didn't fire myself for buying mostly Rigol.

 

[Piotr Wyderski]

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

> Bean counters in charge of everything.

Those couldn't care less what an oscilloscope is.

Best

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 00:14:25 +0200, Piotr Wyderski
<peter.pan@neverland.mil> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Bean counters in charge of everything.

Those couldn't care less what an oscilloscope is.

Best

It's a common pattern: short-term monetize a brand name. Sell cheap
imports at high prices and don't worry much about the long-term
damage.

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christense]

tirsdag den 24. september 2019 kl. 00.44.22 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 00:14:25 +0200, Piotr Wyderski
peter.pan@neverland.mil> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Bean counters in charge of everything.

Those couldn't care less what an oscilloscope is.

Best

It's a common pattern: short-term monetize a brand name. Sell cheap
imports at high prices and don't worry much about the long-term
damage.

they will have exercised their stock options and moved on before
the long-term damage hits so that's someone else’s problem

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 22:57:18 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:e6lhoelclj7vkkt83filhvj8qj0kt0j7ce@4ax.com:

Johnny is an idiot.

Have you tried a Rigol scope?


I said nothing about any other maker, Rigol included.

I said that your assertion about Tek makes you decidedly stupid.
An idiot, in fact.

OK, keep buying over-priced buggy imported equipment from companies
that used to be good.

 

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
news:chiioehj6stkvhlm64bck5n8c33j9cfrdc@4ax.com:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 00:14:25 +0200, Piotr Wyderski
peter.pan@neverland.mil> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Bean counters in charge of everything.

Those couldn't care less what an oscilloscope is.

Best

It's a common pattern: short-term monetize a brand name. Sell cheap
imports at high prices and don't worry much about the long-term
damage.

Yeah, I am sure that is their business model. You are truly
brainless.

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:e6lhoelclj7vkkt83filhvj8qj0kt0j7ce@4ax.com:

Johnny is an idiot.

Have you tried a Rigol scope?

I said nothing about any other maker, Rigol included.

I said that your assertion about Tek makes you decidedly stupid.
An idiot, in fact.

 

The rot has been going on for a long time. One of the sadder days in my career was in 2005 when I had to explain to a room-full of _Tek_factory_engineers_ that a scope lives and dies by its step response.

Tek tried to hire me in 1987, back when analog giants such as Battjes, Hollister, Traa, and Getreu still worked there. That would have been a lot of fun, but it wasn't as good as IBM Watson.

Tek never made enough revenue per employee to pay properly.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

On Monday, 23 September 2019 15:01:02 UTC+1, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

tabbypurr wrote in
news:05608f78-8f20-4e37-a08e-f2cf3e9540a8@googlegroups.com:

Anyone who needs to be told what an oscilloscope does is not a
potential customer.

You obviously have no grasp as to why a customer visits a
metrological instrument maker's web pages.

yawn

Most have comprehensive information resources, not merely the
instruments themselves.

You being peeved about some odd percetion you have about what a
customer would feel about seeing that opening page is actually pretty
funny.

I'm not peeved in the least

Potential customers don't appreciate being
treated like 3 year olds.

Nope. You get that treatment after you show up here barking out
childish complaints about feelings no other customers experience from
seeing that page.

I've made no such complaints

They've dropped the ball.

Nope. They are one of the top players.

no, they were once

It is like picking AMD or Intel and then thinking the other is lost
or will lose some imagined race.

Do us all a favour and try base jumping.


NT