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On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 12:48:45 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 4/28/19 8:50 AM, trader4@optonline.net wrote:
demonstrates that black students still aren't reading as well as their white counterparts. If the US education system isn't teaching them to read as well as it might, it's a trifle difficult for them compete on equal terms.
90% of the problem is in the home. When you pay people to have single mother
families, pay them to have more kids, have people like you telling them that
the US is racist, that they can't succeed on their own, when you have black
rappers spewing out their crap, race hustlers telling them it's whitey's
fault, that's what you get. Oh, and the GOP is in favor of school vouchers,
where everyone gets a voucher, good for X dollars, to send their kid to the
school of their CHOICE. Instead of private schools being only for the wealthy,
poor people would have a choice too. Who's against it? Why the Democrats,
of course. Because they are in the pocket of the teacher's union.
the purpose of a school voucher system is primarily to take money from
low-income taxpayers and give it to the wealthy so they can have their
own private, segregated wealthy-people schools
More lies from the lefty, of course.
On 4/22/19 9:24 PM, amdx wrote:
I don't want more from govt, I want LESS. The taxes to pay for all the
free stuff the Democrats are proposing would kill taxpayers and even the
libs know it. The last great promise, Obamacare, turned out to be pretty
much a dudd.  Unless you think paying $500 a month for a healthcare plan
where you have a $7K deductible is a great idea. It was as fraudulent
and
dishonest as Trump's tax cut.
 The problem with Obamacare was after the Obamacare regulations went
into effect, my families private healthcare plan had increases of 18.2%,
19.4% and 24% the following 3 years. We had a 67% increase in 2 years 3
months. Thanks Obama, what happened to my $2,500 reduction you promised?
 I prefer a high deductible, I think it lowers overall costs.
 In 09 i raised my deductible from $2,500 to $10,000 and lowered my
premium from $9,900 to $4,300. Then I opened a tax deductible HSA that I
now have about $48,000 in.
 Another problem, as I see it, the FIRE community (Financially
Independent Retire Early) loves it. They retire with about $1,000,000
(or more) live frugally on about $40,000 a year and get a full
healthcare subsidy, even though they are millionaires.
I don't think that is what was envisioned with the legislation.
                                 Mikek
The boomerz all want less from the government. once they took it and
society at large for all it was good for back in the 60s and 70s.
Fuck You
Got Mine
On 4/28/19 5:24 PM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
"the purpose of a school voucher system is primarily to take money from low-income taxpayers and give it to the wealthy so they can have their own private, segregated wealthy-people schools"
If I had kids I would do ANYTHING to get them a good education even if I had to do it myself. And that would take some doing. Go ahead and home school, just know what you're doing. Of course some assholes used it to cover child abuse but what you gonna do ? I'd shoot them and take their kids, but that's just me. You hurt a kid around me and I will SHOW YOU what revenge really is.
How do you know they're getting a "good education" when there's such a
large profit-based incentive to tell you what you want to hear? A+. A+.
A+. Yes mr. jurb he's a wonderful student. that will be $5000.
"> The US Democratic Party were more sympathetic to the Civil Rights movement than the Republicans"
First of all that is bullshit. Can't listen to him.
Quick Google shows;
"The no vote consisted of 74% Democrats. Clearly, the 1964 Civil Rights Act could not have been passed without the leadership of Republicans such as Everett Dirksen and the votes of Republicans."
That's from a result, but anyone can easily check it. Even though democrats did control congress they opposed the CRA for the most part - 74%.
So JFK signed it, he was a republican at heart until that became a liability. But the fact is that he would have never even seen it to sign if not for the republican vote.
Another thing that people seem 6to forget is that democrats wee the party of slaves and were the impetus for our civil war. They were most of the slave owners and wanted to keep their property.
You know the way they lip service minorities now is another way of retaining ownership. No fucking jobs so you need government help, then when you do they assume you will vote for them because they promise you more.
"Sadly, many of the criminal bent minded folks know very well how to 'play' on society and 'whitey' any time they wish as civil societies are trusting and we must pay for what our ancestors did, and what a bunch of assholes supremacists are still doing. So some of them lower themselves to that level and kind folks get hurt on both sides. "
And democrats facilitate that. They do it for votes.
I have no great love for republicans but we are at which no democrat can be trusted. Sorry. We have one alternative.
But with things like affirmative action, which one prominent Black congress critter is against, at least, make the recipients weak. If you have to carry 100 pounds at work and someone else only has to carry 50 then who is the stronger ?
"And population densities and a few other factors weigh into this and the error in the old stats as well. "
For one, yes, population densities are very much at the heart of the matter. And who lived in the ghettos ? Who had five kids in a two bedroom apartment, feeding them on welfare ? And who didn't force them to at least have a Norplant at the first or second kid - or abortion ?
You are obviously against republicans, but you fail to see just how bad the democrats really are. The republicans are far from good, but the democrats are farther. you let them take power and you'll see. You will be back here with "Damn, if I had only known".
Hopefully that doesn't happen.
trader4@optonline.net wrote in
news:0d53b9f8-dd3a-421c-b0f7-81a15248666e@googlegroups.com:
You're oblivious to the fact that the poverty rate today is the
same as it was 50+ years ago, when the war on poverty began.
You are oblivious to the fact that the very definition of poverty has
changed, because of the obliteration of the middle class.
Much less whatever your precious 'poverty rate' means. Yet another
stupid stat most likely.
You still seem to think that a single income is what operates a
household.
You are about as clueless as it gets.
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 12:40:32 PM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com
wrote:
On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 12:48:45 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:
On 4/28/19 8:50 AM, trader4@optonline.net wrote:
demonstrates that black students still aren't reading as well
as their white counterparts. If the US education system isn't
teaching them to read as well as it might, it's a trifle
difficult for them compete on equal terms.
90% of the problem is in the home. When you pay people to
have single mother families, pay them to have more kids, have
people like you telling them that the US is racist, that they
can't succeed on their own, when you have black rappers
spewing out their crap, race hustlers telling them it's
whitey's fault, that's what you get. Oh, and the GOP is in
favor of school vouchers, where everyone gets a voucher, good
for X dollars, to send their kid to the school of their
CHOICE. Instead of private schools being only for the
wealthy, poor people would have a choice too. Who's against
it? Why the Democrats, of course. Because they are in the
pocket of the teacher's union.
the purpose of a school voucher system is primarily to take
money from low-income taxpayers and give it to the wealthy so
they can have their own private, segregated wealthy-people
schools
More lies from the lefty, of course.
Or so krw like to think. If thinking is the right word to describe
the way krw uses what brain he has.
bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote in
news:cacae5dd-7fd7-4579-a1a3-d63a658188e3@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 12:40:32 PM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com
wrote:
On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 12:48:45 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:
On 4/28/19 8:50 AM, trader4@optonline.net wrote:
demonstrates that black students still aren't reading as well
as their white counterparts. If the US education system isn't
teaching them to read as well as it might, it's a trifle
difficult for them compete on equal terms.
90% of the problem is in the home. When you pay people to
have single mother families, pay them to have more kids, have
people like you telling them that the US is racist, that they
can't succeed on their own, when you have black rappers
spewing out their crap, race hustlers telling them it's
whitey's fault, that's what you get. Oh, and the GOP is in
favor of school vouchers, where everyone gets a voucher, good
for X dollars, to send their kid to the school of their
CHOICE. Instead of private schools being only for the
wealthy, poor people would have a choice too. Who's against
it? Why the Democrats, of course. Because they are in the
pocket of the teacher's union.
the purpose of a school voucher system is primarily to take
money from low-income taxpayers and give it to the wealthy so
they can have their own private, segregated wealthy-people
schools
More lies from the lefty, of course.
Or so krw like to think. If thinking is the right word to describe
the way krw uses what brain he has.
ALL of these folks using stupid monikers like left and right, and
lefty and righty and 'libs' and all the other stupid horseshit,
usually mouthed by idiotic Trumpanzee retards...
problem with the nation. It is a bunch of goddamned adult aged
idiots with ten year old mental ages and ten year old temper tantrum
stupidity driving them to make decisions that are even more retarded
than their baseline fucked in the head behavior.
What America did was not put a person in place to make it great
again. We put a person in that showed the rest of the world that we
are a nation where well over half of the adults are complete idiots.
That has nothing to do with the poverty rate, fool.
the Census Bureau has not changed in the 50+ years since the war
on poverty began.
ALL of these folks using stupid monikers like left and right,
and
lefty and righty and 'libs' and all the other stupid horseshit,
usually mouthed by idiotic Trumpanzee retards...
Like the libs don't do it just as much too?
What America did was not put a person in place to make it great
again. We put a person in that showed the rest of the world that
we are a nation where well over half of the adults are complete
idiots.
And you represent as one shining example.
On Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 1:09:53 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence..org wrote:
trader4@optonline.net wrote in
news:0d53b9f8-dd3a-421c-b0f7-81a15248666e@googlegroups.com:
You're oblivious to the fact that the poverty rate today is the
same as it was 50+ years ago, when the war on poverty began.
You are oblivious to the fact that the very definition of poverty has
changed, because of the obliteration of the middle class.
Just like K says, always wrong. The definition of poverty used by the
Census Bureau has not changed in the 50+ years since the war on poverty
began.
Much less whatever your precious 'poverty rate' means. Yet another
stupid stat most likely.
And you just admitted you have no idea what it even is we're talking about.
trader4@optonline.net wrote in news:e0c7d262-a0cf-4881-96fd-
9ee5675e08b7@googlegroups.com:
That has nothing to do with the poverty rate, fool.
You use that f word a lot.
You do know that it decidedly makes *you* the fool.
Oh... it is obvious that you do not know.
It is obvious that you do not know... so many things.
Your social cluelessness is glaring, child.
trader4@optonline.net wrote in news:19115ca0-6b98-4f79-849f-
4123d9a6674b@googlegroups.com:
ALL of these folks using stupid monikers like left and right,
and
lefty and righty and 'libs' and all the other stupid horseshit,
usually mouthed by idiotic Trumpanzee retards...
Like the libs don't do it just as much too?
Quite obvious that you still do not get it.
And no, not as much, and only those dumb enough to follow in the
footsteps of dumb fucktards like you.
You, you retarded piece of shit... you are the epitome of
divisivness.
You, motherfucker... You, you piece of shit...
You do NOT represent my party.
I am a true republican, and fucktarded devisive jackoffs like you
have tainted my party.
You do not see me running around spouting off about what party was
responsible for what program. The shit got voted in. That means
ALL the motherfuckers in place at the time did it. NOT ANY ONE
PARTY. You dig, you stupid fuck!!!?
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 10:09:47 PM UTC+10, tra...@optonline.net wrote:
On Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 1:09:53 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
trader4@optonline.net wrote in
news:0d53b9f8-dd3a-421c-b0f7-81a15248666e@googlegroups.com:
You're oblivious to the fact that the poverty rate today is the
same as it was 50+ years ago, when the war on poverty began.
You are oblivious to the fact that the very definition of poverty has
changed, because of the obliteration of the middle class.
Just like K says, always wrong. The definition of poverty used by the
Census Bureau has not changed in the 50+ years since the war on poverty
began.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States
The income level used to define the poverty line has been inflation adjusted since it was originally introduced in 1964.
Remember the cheating at Harvard ? For some reason we never heard what happened. Them and Yale are clubs to meet other rich kids, but not MIT, I think they actually light still teach something.
"And this is your response. "
They can't have the poor going to good schools and making alot of money, learning real reasoning skills of a real profession.
Nobody would vote for them.
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 12:02:56 PM UTC-4, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
Remember the cheating at Harvard ? For some reason we never heard what happened. Them and Yale are clubs to meet other rich kids, but not MIT, I think they actually light still teach something.
Not sure which cheating at Harvard you are referring to. The one that comes to my mind is Ted Kennedy getting someone to take an exam for him. He got booted out for that but was allowed to come back after being out a year.
"And this is your response. "
They can't have the poor going to good schools and making alot of money, learning real reasoning skills of a real profession.
Nobody would vote for them.
Actually they put a lot of effort into getting the poor into Harvard. A third of my class were on scholarships. It is a higher percentage now..
Did you note that Harvard and MIT were not schools that rich people paid bribes to get their children admitted. One factor might be that Harvard tries very hard to interview every applicant. That and both of those colleges are not known as party schools.
Dan