Supergluing your fingers together

[N_Cook]

Surprising I've never done it before . Thumb and second finger firmly glued
to either side of a connecctor. I tried methylated spirits first but no
effect seemingly. Then dilute acetone as nail varnish remover. I was
concerned about being too long on the skin so some cotton wool balls of
acetone around both areas and a Q-tip soaked in acetone, with a rotating
wedge-like motion, cautiously wedging skin from connector worked, but anyone
elses experiences/advice for the next time? Anyone ever glued one hand to
the other ?

 

[Ron]

On 02/09/2010 14:22, N_Cook wrote:

Surprising I've never done it before . Thumb and second finger firmly glued
to either side of a connecctor. I tried methylated spirits first but no
effect seemingly. Then dilute acetone as nail varnish remover. I was
concerned about being too long on the skin so some cotton wool balls of
acetone around both areas and a Q-tip soaked in acetone, with a rotating
wedge-like motion, cautiously wedging skin from connector worked, but anyone
elses experiences/advice for the next time? Anyone ever glued one hand to
the other ?


I'd take it as a warning

 

[N_Cook]

Meat Plow <mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
newsan.2010.09.02.14.01.32@hahahahahahahah.nutz.I.am...

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:22:52 +0100, N_Cook wrote:

Surprising I've never done it before . Thumb and second finger firmly
glued to either side of a connecctor. I tried methylated spirits first
but no effect seemingly. Then dilute acetone as nail varnish remover. I
was concerned about being too long on the skin so some cotton wool balls
of acetone around both areas and a Q-tip soaked in acetone, with a
rotating wedge-like motion, cautiously wedging skin from connector
worked, but anyone elses experiences/advice for the next time? Anyone
ever glued one hand to the other ?

I glue large cuts together. From what I've heard/read Cyanoacrylate was
developed as a substitute for stitching wounds together on the
battlefield during the Vietnam war. Little wonder it bonds skin so
thoroughly. It's also used in its medical counterpart for some surgeries.

Back to gluing cuts. I was sharpening a large hunting knife and managed
to cut the side of my right thumb to the bone. Cut was about 2.5cm and I
could see bone and other structures underneath. Didn't look like I cut
anything else and my thumb still worked ok so rather than getting it
stitched I used a grade of cyano we use for guitar work. Got the bleeding
stopped, wasn't much to begin with. Applied the glue and the cut was
closed immediately. I put cloth tape around the joint so the thumb
wouldn't flex as that was where the cut occurred. A week later the cut
had healed well enough to remove the tape. Now I have a scar but it is a
straight line. Be happy to upload a pic of it.



--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

re sig
Its also used for the chance of CSI lifting murderer's fingerprints off the
skin off dead bodies. That is one of the reasons that a tent goes over a
body outdoors. So heaters can go inside and evaporate Cyanoacrylate in a
confined space.

 

[William Sommerwerck]

From what I've heard/read, cyanoacrylate was developed as a
substitute for stitching wounds together on the battlefield during
the Vietnam war.

It was actually developed by Kodak in 1942, and was originally used to
splice film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate

 

[Meat Plow]

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:22:52 +0100, N_Cook wrote:

Surprising I've never done it before . Thumb and second finger firmly
glued to either side of a connecctor. I tried methylated spirits first
but no effect seemingly. Then dilute acetone as nail varnish remover. I
was concerned about being too long on the skin so some cotton wool balls
of acetone around both areas and a Q-tip soaked in acetone, with a
rotating wedge-like motion, cautiously wedging skin from connector
worked, but anyone elses experiences/advice for the next time? Anyone
ever glued one hand to the other ?

I glue large cuts together. From what I've heard/read Cyanoacrylate was
developed as a substitute for stitching wounds together on the
battlefield during the Vietnam war. Little wonder it bonds skin so
thoroughly. It's also used in its medical counterpart for some surgeries.

Back to gluing cuts. I was sharpening a large hunting knife and managed
to cut the side of my right thumb to the bone. Cut was about 2.5cm and I
could see bone and other structures underneath. Didn't look like I cut
anything else and my thumb still worked ok so rather than getting it
stitched I used a grade of cyano we use for guitar work. Got the bleeding
stopped, wasn't much to begin with. Applied the glue and the cut was
closed immediately. I put cloth tape around the joint so the thumb
wouldn't flex as that was where the cut occurred. A week later the cut
had healed well enough to remove the tape. Now I have a scar but it is a
straight line. Be happy to upload a pic of it.



--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

 

[Gerard Bok]

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 14:22:52 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk>
wrote:

Surprising I've never done it before . Thumb and second finger firmly glued
to either side of a connecctor.

To dissolve cyanoacrylate you need (warm) water and patience.
Or rather: patience and warm water as the most important
ingredient should go first.

One other thing to notice: superglue may be a marble in some
cases, it has very poor resistance to water.

Anyone ever glued one hand to the other ?

We may be sloppy but not that stupid ;-)
You may however drop by the nearest convent and ask 'Why?'.

--
Kind regards,
Gerard Bok

 

[Meat Plow]

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 07:52:48 -0700, William Sommerwerck wrote:

From what I've heard/read, cyanoacrylate was developed as a substitute
for stitching wounds together on the battlefield during the Vietnam
war.

It was actually developed by Kodak in 1942, and was originally used to
splice film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate

Well dammit I won't have that story to tell my grand children.



--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

 

[Smitty Two]

In article <i5o8e6$9qk$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:

Surprising I've never done it before . Thumb and second finger firmly glued
to either side of a connecctor. I tried methylated spirits first but no
effect seemingly. Then dilute acetone as nail varnish remover. I was
concerned about being too long on the skin so some cotton wool balls of
acetone around both areas and a Q-tip soaked in acetone, with a rotating
wedge-like motion, cautiously wedging skin from connector worked, but anyone
elses experiences/advice for the next time? Anyone ever glued one hand to
the other ?

They do make a specific solvent for CA; we keep a bottle on hand at the
shop. I have no idea what's in it, but it works very well on skin and
other things, too. We do a couple of assembly jobs involving CA and by
the time you've worked with it for a few hours at a time, you're pretty
much guaranteed to have the stuff all over at least 9 of your fingers.
The solvent cleans it right up.

Physiologically it's pretty innocuous stuff. Besides gluing cuts
together well, I've heard of people mistaking it for a bottle of eye
drops, and it hasn't done any real damage. Inconvenient to have your eye
glued shut for a while though.

 

[Dave Platt]

Surprising I've never done it before . Thumb and second finger firmly glued
to either side of a connecctor. I tried methylated spirits first but no
effect seemingly. Then dilute acetone as nail varnish remover. I was
concerned about being too long on the skin so some cotton wool balls of
acetone around both areas and a Q-tip soaked in acetone, with a rotating
wedge-like motion, cautiously wedging skin from connector worked, but anyone
elses experiences/advice for the next time?

Keeping a bottle of superglue debonder around is a cheap investment.
If you go to a hobby store which carries a selection of cyanoacrylate
glues (usually of different viscosities and bonding speeds) you ought
to find a supply of debonder in the same rack.

Anyone ever glued one hand to
the other ?

Only students of modern Zen koans.

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[Dave Platt]

In article <pan.2010.09.02.14.01.32@hahahahahahahah.nutz.I.am>,
Meat Plow <mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote:

I glue large cuts together. From what I've heard/read Cyanoacrylate was
developed as a substitute for stitching wounds together on the
battlefield during the Vietnam war. Little wonder it bonds skin so
thoroughly. It's also used in its medical counterpart for some surgeries.

Yup... although the off-the-shelf cyanoacrylate has some amount of
toxicity to skin cells, and is not ideal for this purpose. A lot of
people do use it as an emergency / field dressing, though... I
understand that rock climbers often carry a tube.

Medical skin glue is based on a slightly different cyanoacrylate
(butyl rather than methyl, IIRC) and is easier on the skin cells.
It's not widely available, though, except as a medical or vetrinary
adhesive in expensive single-use ampoules).

--
Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org> AE6EO
Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

 

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 14:22:52 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:

Surprising I've never done it before . Thumb and second finger firmly glued
to either side of a connecctor. I tried methylated spirits first but no
effect seemingly. Then dilute acetone as nail varnish remover. I was
concerned about being too long on the skin so some cotton wool balls of
acetone around both areas and a Q-tip soaked in acetone, with a rotating
wedge-like motion, cautiously wedging skin from connector worked, but anyone
elses experiences/advice for the next time? Anyone ever glued one hand to
the other ?

I've made a few mistakes, but have avoided that one.

The second best story I've heard about 'Superglue' mistakes occurred
back in the '60's. One of the plastics engineers described the events
like this.

'Joe' was assigned to do a 'miracle of plastics' demonstration for an
open house the company was hosting. One part of his presentation
involved putting a couple of drops of Eastman 910 at one end of a
strip of rubber, overlapping the other end, then stretching the rubber
until it broke. This demonstrated that the bond was stronger than the
original material. While this was going on, one 10 year old boy was
watching this, obviously fascinated.

Eventually 'Joe' had to take a break. He starts to head to the Men's
room, then realized that he should put the Superglue away. He heads
back to the table, and spots the ten year old applying Superglue to
both hands. At this point the kid looks up, spots 'Joe' heading for
him. The kid quickly clenches his fists, jams them in his pockets,
and vanishes into the crowd. After thinking for a few seconds, Joe
heads back to the Men's room.

===========================================

The best story involves 'Carol' and her live-in boyfriend, 'Matt'.
'Matt' had a way with women. It was a way that didn't involve much
consideration for their feelings, kind words, or affection. 'Carol'
is getting tired of having 'Matt' around, but hadn't quite reached the
point where she was ready to throw him out.

That changed one night when 'Matt' decided to go drinking after work
rather than come home. Eventually ''Matt' showed up drunk, smelling
of beer, cigarette smoke, and cheap perfume. And 'Matt' wanted to
have sex. When 'Carol' objected, 'Matt' slapped her a few times until
she changed her mind. Afterward, 'Matt' promptly goes to sleep on his
back. 'Carol' has had enough, she grabs the bottle of Superglue,
applies some liberally to both of 'Matt's' hands, glues them to his
genitalia, then call the police to report that her boyfriend has raped
her.

PlainBill

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per N_Cook:

Anyone ever glued one hand to
the other ?

IIRC, buncha years ago there was a robber somewhere who, after
robbing somebody at an ATM machine, would super glue the victim's
hands to the machine.
--
PeteCresswell

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:24:26 -0700, dplatt@radagast.org (Dave Platt)
wrote:

Medical skin glue is based on a slightly different cyanoacrylate
(butyl rather than methyl, IIRC) and is easier on the skin cells.
It's not widely available, though, except as a medical or vetrinary
adhesive in expensive single-use ampoules).

The problem is that cyanoacrylate breaks down in the body into some
toxic substances. I had surgery in 2002 where the surgeon used glue
instead of sutchers or staples, a major improvement.

I have several types in my first aid box. The easiest to get is
"Liquid Bandage" which is not cyanoacrylate based, but is good enough.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_bandage>
The above URL mentions that the Band-Aid brand of liquid bandage is
cyanoacrylate based.

As for ungluing fingers, there is super glue remover. Lacking that,
acetone or hot water works.
<http://www.ehow.com/how_116797_superglue-skin.html>
<http://www.supergluecorp.com/removingsuperglue.html>
Of course, it's kinda difficult to type these URL's if your fingers
are glued to a connector.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Adrian C]

On 02/09/2010 21:05, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

As for ungluing fingers, there is super glue remover. Lacking that,
acetone or hot water works.
http://www.ehow.com/how_116797_superglue-skin.html
http://www.supergluecorp.com/removingsuperglue.html
Of course, it's kinda difficult to type these URL's if your fingers
are glued to a connector.

I've shortened them here if that is any assistance ;-)

http://tinyurl.com/rgzsu

http://tinyurl.com/2f8lzl

--
Adrian C

 

[Meat Plow]

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:24:26 -0700, Dave Platt wrote:

In article <pan.2010.09.02.14.01.32@hahahahahahahah.nutz.I.am>, Meat
Plow <mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote:

I glue large cuts together. From what I've heard/read Cyanoacrylate was
developed as a substitute for stitching wounds together on the
battlefield during the Vietnam war. Little wonder it bonds skin so
thoroughly. It's also used in its medical counterpart for some
surgeries.

Yup... although the off-the-shelf cyanoacrylate has some amount of
toxicity to skin cells, and is not ideal for this purpose. A lot of
people do use it as an emergency / field dressing, though... I
understand that rock climbers often carry a tube.

Medical skin glue is based on a slightly different cyanoacrylate (butyl
rather than methyl, IIRC) and is easier on the skin cells. It's not
widely available, though, except as a medical or vetrinary adhesive in
expensive single-use ampoules).

Hmm I'll have to remember that. Didn't seem to prove very toxic to my
cut. Skin had mended around 10 days after. I probably wouldn't use it
if I cut my finger off though



--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

 

[Meat Plow]

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:43:29 -0400, (PeteCresswell) wrote:

Per N_Cook:
Anyone ever glued one hand to
the other ?

IIRC, buncha years ago there was a robber somewhere who, after robbing
somebody at an ATM machine, would super glue the victim's hands to the
machine.

I know of a friend's friend whose disgruntled wife fed up with his
drinking used CA to glue the man's penis to his stomach while he was
passed out drunk.



--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

 

[Dave Platt]

In article <pan.2010.09.02.18.52.00@hahahahahahahah.nutz.I.am>,
Meat Plow <mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote:

Medical skin glue is based on a slightly different cyanoacrylate (butyl
rather than methyl, IIRC) and is easier on the skin cells. It's not
widely available, though, except as a medical or vetrinary adhesive in
expensive single-use ampoules).

Hmm I'll have to remember that. Didn't seem to prove very toxic to my
cut. Skin had mended around 10 days after.

I've used it in that way, as well, with no apparent adverse reactions.
I suppose different people may have different levels of sensitivity to
the stuff.

--
Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org> AE6EO
Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

 

[PeterD]

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 14:22:52 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:

Surprising I've never done it before . Thumb and second finger firmly glued
to either side of a connecctor. I tried methylated spirits first but no
effect seemingly. Then dilute acetone as nail varnish remover. I was
concerned about being too long on the skin so some cotton wool balls of
acetone around both areas and a Q-tip soaked in acetone, with a rotating
wedge-like motion, cautiously wedging skin from connector worked, but anyone
elses experiences/advice for the next time? Anyone ever glued one hand to
the other ?

Acetone, and generally it won't hurt you if you don't inhale it all...

 

[AZ Nomad]

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:20:39 -0700, Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org> wrote:

Surprising I've never done it before . Thumb and second finger firmly glued
to either side of a connecctor. I tried methylated spirits first but no
effect seemingly. Then dilute acetone as nail varnish remover. I was
concerned about being too long on the skin so some cotton wool balls of
acetone around both areas and a Q-tip soaked in acetone, with a rotating
wedge-like motion, cautiously wedging skin from connector worked, but anyone
elses experiences/advice for the next time?

Keeping a bottle of superglue debonder around is a cheap investment.
If you go to a hobby store which carries a selection of cyanoacrylate
glues (usually of different viscosities and bonding speeds) you ought
to find a supply of debonder in the same rack.

Has anybody ever found an application where superglue works well
except on human skin? I find the crap brittle as hell and have yet to
see anything glued with it last more than a few weeks before breaking.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

AZ Nomad wrote:

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:20:39 -0700, Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org> wrote:
Surprising I've never done it before . Thumb and second finger firmly glued
to either side of a connecctor. I tried methylated spirits first but no
effect seemingly. Then dilute acetone as nail varnish remover. I was
concerned about being too long on the skin so some cotton wool balls of
acetone around both areas and a Q-tip soaked in acetone, with a rotating
wedge-like motion, cautiously wedging skin from connector worked, but anyone
elses experiences/advice for the next time?

Keeping a bottle of superglue debonder around is a cheap investment.
If you go to a hobby store which carries a selection of cyanoacrylate
glues (usually of different viscosities and bonding speeds) you ought
to find a supply of debonder in the same rack.


Has anybody ever found an application where superglue works well
except on human skin? I find the crap brittle as hell and have yet to
see anything glued with it last more than a few weeks before breaking.

I use it on optical things often, because it's easily removed, like Duco
cement except stronger and faster-setting. As long as you use just a
little, it doesn't cause too much nasty frosting nearby.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
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Principal
ElectroOptical Innovations
55 Orchard Rd
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
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