Sony CDP101 repair

ohg...@gmail.com wrote: "Symphonies OTOH feature many dozens of acoustic instruments, each making an unprocessed sound.
And while many symphony pieces can be quite dynamic and demanding of a sound system, there is a lot of it that is soft. "


I see what you mean. Still, your
typical rock, rap, or pop song
will have have a much higher
average level overall, compared
to jazz or classical.


As for orchestral dynamics, those
depend largely on three things:
the composition itself, the conductor,
and his musicians. And the
difference between loud and soft
can be much greater in a symphony
than on a top-40 or rock tune.


And I can usually tell if the sound
of a classical CD has been dynamically
compressed in post: Foobar 2000 Dynamic
range analysis returns a DR value of 12 -
comparable to a typical 1980s pop song.
With most of the natural dynamics left in,
that classical CD should register
between DR18-30! Something digital
audio was designed for.

 

[Daniel Mandic]

ohger1s@gmail.com wrote:

Don't overthink this Daniel. Phil has a long history of polluting
newsgroups all over the web with his pigheaded single minded thought
process (like his love of WD40). He's a hateful, vile, cowardly,
foul mouthed internet bully. If you don't agree with him, he will
wish a painful cancer death on you. When I first ran across his
posts, they were so outrageous I thought he was being comically
ironic (and perhaps he is and getting a big laugh out of this). If
someone should ask a dumb question, he will berate their intelligence
and suggest they kill themselves to relieve their burden of ignorance.

Off course, I have seen it, I saw it and I see it...

> Phil thinks CDs have no flaws, and I happen to disagree with him.

Theoretically, exactly within the scope (5-20000Hz).

Any other person who disagrees would simply say so and state their
case. But Phil is a true nut job, and since he won't meet anyone
face to face and repeat those same words that he does on the web
(coward), it's sort of fun to just rile him up and disagree with him
now and again.

don't take electronics too religious.... me thinks is the best.

Getting back to the subject, when I was younger, I knew CDs offered
several big advantages (that I pointed out in my first post), but
instead of taking a leap forward beyond a mechanical system of
grooved vinyl and various mechanical needle/cartridge schemes, they
took a small step backwards in fidelity.

Indeed. Taking the costs (Turntable, Tonearm, Pickup and pre-pre -MC
off course- ;-)) for ultimate Vinyl Quality into account... it is by
faaar better in fidelity than any CD-Audio Player. Better than the best
CD-Player by Naim or Linn and Sony and Philips.
CD-Player, even the best, are sounding hollow and narrowed compared
to a fine turntable.

That a digital format
cannot quite equal an archaic electro-mechanical analogue system is
telling. Phil can't or refuses to hear this, and that's fine. The
fact is is that my hearing has diminished to the point where I'm
happy even with MP3s nowadays.

I became moderate, too. My perception range (~18kHz) is biologically
still the same... with more and more knowledge to harmonics and
seperating multiple tracks/instruments in the brain than 20 years
before.

I'm sure his CDP-101 sounds just as good as my Pioneer CD player and
maybe even better, but my point was about the CD format in general,
not the CDP-101 in particular.

The CDP-101 lacks sound (newer technologies...). Many people might
think, that's that (no further playback-technologies) what is
memorized on CD...?
cd-drive, D/A stage, filtering!, op-amps!! etc. `?

On the other hand, why do we need MC-pickups beyond 40kHz? ;-) (there
is max. 16-22kHz writeable/available on a record.... beyond 16kHz with
more distortion than linearity ;-))
Superior harmonics....!
You can revive them, even when recorded with recording-equipment which
can not do more than 20kHz. But to take the effect, you need the other
part(s) of the harmonic(s) -beyond 20kHz- which were effectively
present in the air while recording. So it's obvious you need someting
(at home) which can fill the air vitually the same.

P.S.: I have been very satisfied with the (my) Sony CDP X779ES (w/o
filter mod). One of the best machines for CD-Audio....


--
Daniel Mandic

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Phil Allison wrote:

> **Daniel is incapable of actual thought.

Your point of view is dizzy and radical-techno-religous.

** You have no idea what the subject is.

Get off this NG - you ridiculous, geriatric narcissist.

I think electronics does not suit you....
It's not a fundamental religion, genetic-ill Phil ;-) (you are a living
example of that 'known' genetic disposition)


--
Daniel Mandic

 

[Phil Allison]

Daniel Mandic wrote:

---------------------------

Phil Allison wrote:

**Daniel is incapable of actual thought.

Your point of view is dizzy and radical-techno-religous.

** Dear readers,

Daniel has a serious mental disability.

Likely a combination of autism, narcissism and a low IQ.

Feel sorry for him if you like, but folk like him become trouble making assholes if allowed.

Don't.


...... Phil

 

[Daniel Mandic]

ohger1s@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 8:25:58 PM UTC-4, thekma...@gmail.com
wrote:
ohg...@gmail.com wrote: " is, they use instruments that are already
heavily processed and are inherently dynamic in nature. "


"Heavily processed" and "inherently dynamic"

Contradiction in terms?



Not at all. I'd expound further but I don't want to upset Phil.
He's battling roaches in his trailer and they've opened up another
front. He hasn't been his normal charming self for a while.

I wouldn't spend too much time to Phil's mental disorder. He's nothing
more here in ser than any other subscriber.... his head (brainstem and
small brain) performs the illusion that he might stand above and beyond
all other ;-)

--
Daniel Mandic

 

[Phil Allison]

Daniel Mandic wrote:

-------------------------


** Dear readers,


Daniel has a serious mental disability.

Likely a combination of autism, narcissism and a low IQ.

Feel sorry for him if you like, but folk like him become trouble making assholes if allowed.

Don't.


...... Phil

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Phil Allison wrote:

> ** Dear readers,



> Daniel has a serious mental disability.

You are reflecting all the time. Casting all your disorders to other
ppl (typical for narziss-ill ppl).

> Likely a combination of autism, narcissism and a low IQ.

Autism? You know something about? Tell us, Ing. Dr. Phys. Phil Allison!
Narziss... yeah, that's exactly yours.
You think your IQ is too low? When I read the technical details to your
posts (sample theory etc.), it might be true. You sound like an evil
preacher more than an electronics engineer

Now get back into your small frame of seeing and describing things.

Feel sorry for him if you like, but folk like him become trouble
making assholes if allowed.

yes...yes. (folk... we... trouble.... allowing)
a typical narcist you are.


--
Daniel Mandic

 

[Phil Allison]

Daniel Mandic wrote:

-------------------


** Dear readers,

Update:

Daniel is a raving nut case.

Autistic and highly schizoid.

Don't let the nutter cause trouble here.

Best use your kill filter.


...... Phil

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Phil Allison wrote:

> Daniel is a raving nut case.

maybe 1 or 2 of 8.... you have at least 6 of 8.

> Autistic and highly schizoid.

Haven't experienced any authistic skills, yet.
Shizoid? Who isn't it at all??

> Don't let the nutter cause trouble here.

Causing trouble?
Your mutated small- and stembrain is spinning that paranoid stories to
you....

> Best use your kill filter.

Be quiet manikin.


--
Daniel Mandic

 

Daniel, Phil!

Will you two get a room and take it
off this newsgroup please?!?

Ave Maria....!

 

[Phil Allison]

thekma...@gmail.com wrote:


----------------------------------

Daniel, Phil!

Will you two get a room and take it
off this newsgroup please?!?

Ave Maria....!

** Very uncool to blaspheme like that.

If anyone attacks me on a NG -

THAT is business for the NG.

And TROLLS like you can go fuck yourself.





...... Phil

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Phil Allison wrote:

> If anyone attacks me on a NG -

You started it (as always...).

> THAT is business for the NG.

You are not good in that business, wishing someone a gun on the head
with shooting....

> And TROLLS like you can go fuck yourself.

You are one of the biggest troll in electronics I know. 95% of your
posts are full with hatred.... the other 5% are containing self-defined
terms which nobody (should...) dare to comment ;-)


P.S.: ....stored sunlight (in your nutcase? then let it out the light
for a couple of time !! ;-))


--
Daniel Mandic

 

[Phil Allison]

Daniel Mandic Raving Psycho wrote:

-----------------------------------

If anyone attacks me on a NG -

You started it (as always...).

** Never, not even once.

THAT is business for the NG.

You are not good in that business, wishing someone a gun on the head
with shooting....

** That troll asked me to explain how to "fuck" himself.

So I obliged him.

And TROLLS like you can go fuck yourself.

You are one of the biggest troll in electronics I know.

** I am the direct opposite of a troll.

Cos I go right after the vile, NG destroying pricks.

95% of your
posts are full with hatred...

** The actual ratio is more like 5%.

I post on 7 or 8 NGs.

P.S.: ....stored sunlight

** Yes, a beautiful scientific fact.

Like you are a schizoid, autistic public menace is a fact.

FOAD.


..... Phil

 

On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 3:37:41 AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:

95% of your
posts are full with hatred...


** The actual ratio is more like 5%.

I post on 7 or 8 NGs.

.... Phil

You do, but interestingly enough (but not surprisingly), every one of those newsgroups have the same problem with you as this one does. Here, enjoy:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~rutlidge/alanindex.html

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.audio.tubes/2006-01/msg00867.html

http://www.electrondepot.com/australian/message-to-phil-allison-17603-.htm

http://www.edaboard.co.uk/message-to-phil-allison-t355897.html


All one needs to do is Google "Phil Allison" and "troll" and boy do the returns just pile up. Every news group you pollute has the same problem with you.

Arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon: you just strut around shitting on the board and claiming you won, and this group is no exception.. The fact Phil is that every board would be better off without you. God knows how how many people you've driven off these boards collectively.

None of this likely to have any impression on you but if there's any part of your brain that's floating beneath the surface of truth, know that if *every* NG you post in has issues with you, it just *might* be you.

 

On Thursday, 8 June 2017 12:22:29 UTC+1, ohg...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 3:37:41 AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:

95% of your
posts are full with hatred...

** The actual ratio is more like 5%.

I post on 7 or 8 NGs.

You do, but interestingly enough (but not surprisingly), every one of those newsgroups have the same problem with you as this one does. Here, enjoy:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~rutlidge/alanindex.html

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.audio.tubes/2006-01/msg00867.html

http://www.electrondepot.com/australian/message-to-phil-allison-17603-.htm

http://www.edaboard.co.uk/message-to-phil-allison-t355897.html


All one needs to do is Google "Phil Allison" and "troll" and boy do the returns just pile up. Every news group you pollute has the same problem with you.

Arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon: you just strut around shitting on the board and claiming you won, and this group is no exception. The fact Phil is that every board would be better off without you. God knows how how many people you've driven off these boards collectively.

None of this likely to have any impression on you but if there's any part of your brain that's floating beneath the surface of truth, know that if *every* NG you post in has issues with you, it just *might* be you.

Phil is always right. No exceptions. The rumour that he often gets things electronic right but sometimes wrong, like most of us, is a myth.
In Phil's words, the rest of us just have

a serious mental disability.
Likely a combination of autism, narcissism and a low IQ.
Obviously YOU are a complete, know nothing fuckwit.
One of millions of on the internet
Jurassic park has no creatures as pre-historic as you.
Wot a six toed fucking idiot.
Wonder if he plays a five string banjo and fancies pig's arses.
And I do not mean for dinner.
Cos right now you are a total ignoramus.
You're first class, raving lunatic.
Put a gun to your head and pull the trigger.
Get off this NG - you ridiculous, geriatric narcissist.
Checked you far arse lately ???
Got any idea where that foul SMOKE is coming from ??
Autistic and highly schizoid.
Don't let the nutter cause trouble here.
Best use your kill filter.
Cos I go right after the vile, NG destroying pricks.
Like you are a schizoid, autistic public menace is a fact.
FOAD.

So now you know.

 

[Phil Allison]

ohg...@gmail.com wrote:

------------------------

** The actual ratio is more like 5%.

I post on 7 or 8 NGs.



You do, but interestingly enough (but not surprisingly), every one of those newsgroups have the same problem with you as this one does.

** This NG has no problem with me.

It does have has a massive one with anonymous, lying criminal pigs like you.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~rutlidge/alanindex.html

** I shut "us.hi-fi" down 6 or 7 years ago.

By doing nothing more than stopping posting.

Go figure why.

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.audio.tubes/2006-01/msg00867.html

** Pat Turner ( a former brick layer) was a poster on aus.hi-fi.

He used the NG purely to promote his home audio business.

And preach the most insane crap and defame other folks products.

But a pig like you wouldn't give a shit about small facts like that.

http://www.electrondepot.com/australian/message-to-phil-allison-17603-.htm

** I go after trolls, without fear.

The vile shits then squeal like stuck pigs.

Hardly surprising.

All one needs to do is Google "Phil Allison" and "troll"

** You know what - in 15+ years of NG posting, I have almost NEVER been called a troll by any poster.

Cos they all know I am their worst enemy.

Nobody here knows who your are.

But everyone here knows what are.



...... Phil

 

On Thursday, 8 June 2017 12:56:37 UTC+1, Phil Allison wrote:

> ** You know what - in 15+ years of NG posting, I have almost NEVER been called a troll by any poster.

lol

 

[Foxs Mercantile]

On 6/8/2017 6:56 AM, Phil Allison wrote:

in 15+ years of NG posting, I have almost NEVER been called
a troll by any poster.

Actually, Phil's correct about that.
He's been called a lot of things, but troll isn't usually one
of them.



--
Jeff-1.0
wa6fwi
http://www.foxsmercantile.com

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[Jeff Liebermann]

On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 04:46:41 -0700 (PDT), tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:

>Phil is always right. No exceptions.

Well, in my experience on Usenet for more years than I care to admit,
Phil is far more often correct than mistaken. I vaguely recall one
minor item where I caught a mistake, but most other times, he either
had the correct answer, or the correct approach to producing an
answer. I could only dream that my batting average is as good as his.

I'm on Usenet to learn. If learning requires tolerating some abuse,
I'm fully prepared to accept (and deliver) some. It's much like
learning any skill that requires dedication and practice (martial
arts, musical instruments, auto repair, etc). The good mentors and
instructors are generally quite abusive to the typical student telling
them they are worthless fumbling fools, incapable of mastering even
the basics, and so on. To many, that's sufficient for them to run
screaming in horror, or complaining bitterly to others in hope of
gathering support. To the few that actually want to learn, such abuse
is an incentive to try harder, learn better, practice more, and
demonstrate to the mentor or instructor that they are worthy.

Pick your own path to enlightenment and try not to bite the hand that
feeds you knowledge.

Drivel: I once bought a Sony CDP101 at a local thrift shop. It
didn't work, so I recycled it, not realizing what it was.

Drivel 2.0: The original CD "Red Book"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Books#Red_Book_.281980.29>
was probably written nearby while I was designing marine radios at
Intech Inc during the late 1970's. The data converter division was
hosting a group of rather secretive Sony engineers, who were probably
working on the A/D and D/A converters for the original CDROM. The red
books were actually custom printed red ring binders that the company
used for catalogs. They were everywhere and no doubt were used by the
Sony engineers for their documentation.
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/red-book.jpg>


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

On Thursday, 8 June 2017 17:54:58 UTC+1, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 04:46:41 -0700 (PDT), tabbypurr wrote:

Phil is always right. No exceptions.

Well, in my experience on Usenet for more years than I care to admit,
Phil is far more often correct than mistaken. I vaguely recall one
minor item where I caught a mistake, but most other times, he either
had the correct answer, or the correct approach to producing an
answer. I could only dream that my batting average is as good as his.

I'm on Usenet to learn. If learning requires tolerating some abuse,
I'm fully prepared to accept (and deliver) some. It's much like
learning any skill that requires dedication and practice (martial
arts, musical instruments, auto repair, etc). The good mentors and
instructors are generally quite abusive to the typical student telling
them they are worthless fumbling fools, incapable of mastering even
the basics, and so on. To many, that's sufficient for them to run
screaming in horror, or complaining bitterly to others in hope of
gathering support. To the few that actually want to learn, such abuse
is an incentive to try harder, learn better, practice more, and
demonstrate to the mentor or instructor that they are worthy.

Pick your own path to enlightenment and try not to bite the hand that
feeds you knowledge.

Yes he gets things right. He also gets them wrong and makes a real spectacle of himself. The madness comes out. Regularly. I try to learn from everyone, but I wouldn't want to work with him.


NT