Solid State relay question

[Bart]

I have a solid state relay that has 5 to 24Vdc input
requirements, and 24 to 240Vac~10amps load limitations. Can I
hook up a DC load to the load side of this? I don't understand
why I could not, and how to determine the limitations of the DC
load given the AC specs.
The relay is an OMRON "G3NA-210B" and the documentation mentions
"photoisolator=yes".

 

[Bart]

"Dave22" <dsquier1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 21, 3:45 pm, "Bart" <bborb@fusedotnet> wrote:
I have a solid state relay that has 5 to 24Vdc input
requirements, and 24 to 240Vac~10amps load limitations. Can I
hook up a DC load to the load side of this? I don't understand
why I could not, and how to determine the limitations of the
DC
load given the AC specs.
The relay is an OMRON "G3NA-210B" and the documentation
mentions
"photoisolator=yes".

Solid state relays are typically thyristor ot Triac based
internally.

While you would be able to use a DC supply with one the problem
is
that the relay will not turn off until the voltage applied
across it
reaches 0 volts. This zero crossing detection is also used by
the
internal control signals to re-fire the triac each time the AC
voltage
starts up again (120 times a second for 60 cycle power) as long
as the
control signal is present.

This is typical of all general purpose solid state relays.

Thanks Dave22,
I understand now. I may run across an application someday where
this info will be useful in a DC circuit. Any thoughts on what
the DC amperage limitations would be?

 

[Phil Allison]

"Bart"

I understand now.

** Very doubtful.

I may run across an application someday where this info will be useful in
a DC circuit.

** DC load switching means using a mechanical relay, MOSFET or transistor.

Any thoughts on what the DC amperage limitations would be?

** Irrelevant.



......... Phil

 

[Jamie]

Bart wrote:

I have a solid state relay that has 5 to 24Vdc input
requirements, and 24 to 240Vac~10amps load limitations. Can I
hook up a DC load to the load side of this? I don't understand
why I could not, and how to determine the limitations of the DC
load given the AC specs.
The relay is an OMRON "G3NA-210B" and the documentation mentions
"photoisolator=yes".


Assuming I know exactly what you're looking for with the way you

asked it.

You can connect a DC load on one side of the SSR how ever,
since the SSR operates on AC, you would need to rectify it first
before it goes to the DC load.

If your idea is to control a DC source to this DC load, then you
have a problem. These devices will latch on. The only way to
turn them off is to remove the DC source from the input side
of the SSR, disconnect the load or lower the load or source enough below
the holding current.

You could use a unfiltered AC to DC bridge source for
example where the valleys will drop low enough for the SSR to unlatch.

On the load side of the SSR, I guess one could simply filter it if
one wish to .


--
"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5

 

[Dave22]

On Nov 21, 3:45 pm, "Bart" <bborb@fusedotnet> wrote:

I have a solid state relay that has 5 to 24Vdc input
requirements, and 24 to 240Vac~10amps load limitations. Can I
hook up a DC load to the load side of this? I don't understand
why I could not, and how to determine the limitations of the DC
load given the AC specs.
The relay is an OMRON "G3NA-210B" and the documentation mentions
"photoisolator=yes".

Solid state relays are typically thyristor ot Triac based internally.

While you would be able to use a DC supply with one the problem is
that the relay will not turn off until the voltage applied across it
reaches 0 volts. This zero crossing detection is also used by the
internal control signals to re-fire the triac each time the AC voltage
starts up again (120 times a second for 60 cycle power) as long as the
control signal is present.

This is typical of all general purpose solid state relays.

 

[Dave22]

On Nov 21, 4:15 pm, "Bart" <bborb@fusedotnet> wrote:

"Dave22" <dsqui...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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On Nov 21, 3:45 pm, "Bart" <bborb@fusedotnet> wrote:
I have a solid state relay that has 5 to 24Vdc input
requirements, and 24 to 240Vac~10amps load limitations. Can I
hook up a DC load to the load side of this? I don't understand
why I could not, and how to determine the limitations of the
DC
load given the AC specs.
The relay is an OMRON "G3NA-210B" and the documentation
mentions
"photoisolator=yes".

Solid state relays are typically thyristor ot Triac based
internally.

While you would be able to use a DC supply with one the problem
is
that the relay will not turn off until the voltage applied
across it
reaches 0 volts. This zero crossing detection is also used by
the
internal control signals to re-fire the triac each time the AC
voltage
starts up again (120 times a second for 60 cycle power) as long
as the
control signal is present.

This is typical of all general purpose solid state relays.

Thanks Dave22,
I understand now. I may run across an application someday where
this info will be useful in a DC circuit. Any thoughts on what
the DC amperage limitations would be?

The current limitation should be the same for both AC or DC. Since
the device you mention is fro a 10 amp load that is the maximum
current I would expect it to be able to handle. Be aware though solid
state relays generally need to be mounted on a heat sink since they
typically drop a volt or two even when turned on. That would mean at
10 amps that you would need to be able to dissipate 20 watts. Most of
the cases will not be able to handle more than 1 watt continuously
without a heat sink.