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The same reason I'll never buy another NiMH battery or CFL light."Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
Last year in December I bought a WES51 also here for the lab, to have a
spare. But I started using it a lot because the tiny PES51 pencil lays
much nicer in the hand than the fat LR-20 of the older stations. They
also added a nice feature, not important to me but to companies and the
fire marshall: If the iron isn't moved in an hour or so it automatically
shuts down. Grand total of $92 plus tax, with pencil and one tip, not a
bad deal at all.
Maybe they learned from the mass exodus of customers and fixed the non
existent reliability since the last time I had the misfortune to pay good
money for one of their products, but once bitten twice shy, I'm not giving
them any more of my money.
It was the same for me, for a few years. Then I tried another batch ofOn Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:16:45 +0100, ian field wrote:
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
Last year in December I bought a WES51 also here for the lab, to have a
spare. But I started using it a lot because the tiny PES51 pencil lays
much nicer in the hand than the fat LR-20 of the older stations. They
also added a nice feature, not important to me but to companies and the
fire marshall: If the iron isn't moved in an hour or so it automatically
shuts down. Grand total of $92 plus tax, with pencil and one tip, not a
bad deal at all.
Maybe they learned from the mass exodus of customers and fixed the non
existent reliability since the last time I had the misfortune to pay good
money for one of their products, but once bitten twice shy, I'm not giving
them any more of my money.
The same reason I'll never buy another NiMH battery or CFL light.
Regardless of brand I still find the light quality is not as advertised - aRich Grise wrote:
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:16:45 +0100, ian field wrote:
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
Last year in December I bought a WES51 also here for the lab, to have a
spare. But I started using it a lot because the tiny PES51 pencil lays
much nicer in the hand than the fat LR-20 of the older stations. They
also added a nice feature, not important to me but to companies and the
fire marshall: If the iron isn't moved in an hour or so it
automatically
shuts down. Grand total of $92 plus tax, with pencil and one tip, not a
bad deal at all.
Maybe they learned from the mass exodus of customers and fixed the non
existent reliability since the last time I had the misfortune to pay
good
money for one of their products, but once bitten twice shy, I'm not
giving
them any more of my money.
The same reason I'll never buy another NiMH battery or CFL light.
It was the same for me, for a few years. Then I tried another batch of CFL
because CostCo had them for less than a buck a piece. Philips Marathon,
and they last and last and last. Of course I'd never buy a CFL at boutique
pricing since that's just not worth it.
At least in Europe, the filament lamp equivalance is completelyRegardless of brand I still find the light quality is not as advertised - a
20W CFL does NOT produce the same light as a 100W incandescent.
Interesting. I can see it dropping due to conduction losses when theIn article <fjlIl.34167$fe2.29061@newsfe06.ams2>,
"ian field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> writes:
In countries with different mains voltage, the ratio may need
adjusting, as filament lamp efficiency varies with the design
voltage. (The most efficient voltage to design a 100W lamp is
about 55V, given a reasonable life requirement, and as you move
the design voltage away from 55V in either direction, the lamp
efficiency drops.)
Designing a full range of filament lamps to operate over aAndrew Gabriel wrote:
In article <fjlIl.34167$fe2.29061@newsfe06.ams2>,
"ian field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> writes:
In countries with different mains voltage, the ratio may need
adjusting, as filament lamp efficiency varies with the design
voltage. (The most efficient voltage to design a 100W lamp is
about 55V, given a reasonable life requirement, and as you move
the design voltage away from 55V in either direction, the lamp
efficiency drops.)
Interesting. I can see it dropping due to conduction losses when the
voltage gets too low (so that the wire gets too fat) but what's the
mechanism for the drop-off at high voltages?
I could live with arbitrarily high gasonline taxes, since I only have a
bike. ;-)
That's not my call, thank you very much.Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null@example.net> wrote:
I could live with arbitrarily high gasonline taxes, since I only have a
bike. ;-)
So all the things you buy are delivered to the stores on bikes?
Um, uh, hello? So you really think that gasoline prices don't impactOn Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:23:57 -0700, Smitty Two wrote:
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null@example.net> wrote:
I could live with arbitrarily high gasonline taxes, since I only have a
bike. ;-)
So all the things you buy are delivered to the stores on bikes?
That's not my call, thank you very much.
Cheers!
Rich
In article <pan.2009.04.26.20.23.54.527997@yahoo.com>,
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian <richardgrise@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:23:57 -0700, Smitty Two wrote:
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null@example.net> wrote:
I could live with arbitrarily high gasonline taxes, since I only have a
bike. ;-)
So all the things you buy are delivered to the stores on bikes?
That's not my call, thank you very much.
Cheers!
Rich
Um, uh, hello? So you really think that gasoline prices don't impact
your life, just because you personally don't burn the stuff? You don't
think the prices of every single thing you buy are influenced heavily by
fuel costs? Your world isn't *that* insular, is it?
Gawd, you people sure do make up a lot of stuff. Prices are going upIn article <pan.2009.04.26.20.23.54.527997@yahoo.com>,
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian <richardgrise@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:23:57 -0700, Smitty Two wrote:
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null@example.net> wrote:
I could live with arbitrarily high gasonline taxes, since I only have a
bike. ;-)
So all the things you buy are delivered to the stores on bikes?
That's not my call, thank you very much.
Um, uh, hello? So you really think that gasoline prices don't impact
your life, just because you personally don't burn the stuff? You don't
think the prices of every single thing you buy are influenced heavily by
fuel costs? Your world isn't *that* insular, is it?
My dad had one, 150 W i think. It would solder 12 Ga. sheet metal.On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:08:32 +0100, Allus Smith <allus_smith@com.com
wrote:
All this talk about soldering irons makes me think how crummy too
much American industrial design is.
Some US industrial design looks great but some looks downright,
well, Russian.
Sure you can see crap-looking design in western Europe too but
there's a lot less of it than in the US.
Take soldering irons for example. An ordinary soldering iron in
the US with unregulated temperature still has great big mofo screws
holding the tip.
By comparison, my 30 year old British-made basic Antex is a sleek
looking baby and those Antexes are not particularly expensive.
Don't start me on the looks of cars!
If you expect something from a $10 hardware store soldering iron
that's made in China, you shouldn't be in electronics. The only people
who use those are kids starting out in tronics and people who don't
know anything about electronics.
If you want a good iron, get a Metcal (now OK). Metcal has soldering
irons for under $200 which work very well for SMT and thruhole. My
only gripe about the cheap Metcals is the tip temperature only goes up
to 750 deg F. Gotta use my 20+ year old Weller iron for melting
isulation off of magnet wire.
If you really want to see a classic soldering iron, get your hands on
an American Beauty! You'll drop your shorts when you get your hands on
that one.
------------------All this talk about soldering irons makes me think how crummy too
much American industrial design is.
Some US industrial design looks great but some looks downright,
well, Russian.
Sure you can see crap-looking design in western Europe too but
there's a lot less of it than in the US.
Take soldering irons for example. An ordinary soldering iron in
the US with unregulated temperature still has great big mofo screws
holding the tip.
By comparison, my 30 year old British-made basic Antex is a sleek
looking baby and those Antexes are not particularly expensive.
Don't start me on the looks of cars!
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