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It's called gain-of-function research. And they apparently succeeded in making a real doozy.

The Obama administration halted funding for the research deemed too dangerous in 2014.

"Nevertheless, in 2014, under pressure from the Obama administration, the National of Institutes of Health instituted a moratorium on the work, suspending 21 studies."

Then the geniuses in the Trump administration, ignoring top scientific advice as usual, resumed funding for the research in 2017:

"Three years later, though—in December 2017—the NIH ended the moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began."

Coincidence? Only a fool would believe the SARS-Cov-2 was a natural occurrence.

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741?amp=1
 
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote in
news:92035aec-5539-4f0b-bb28-15b116562c8d@googlegroups.com:

It's called gain-of-function research. And they apparently
succeeded in making a real doozy.

The Obama administration halted funding for the research deemed
too dangerous in 2014.

"Nevertheless, in 2014, under pressure from the Obama
administration, the National of Institutes of Health instituted a
moratorium on the work, suspending 21 studies."

Then the geniuses in the Trump administration, ignoring top
scientific advice as usual, resumed funding for the research in
2017:

"Three years later, though—in December 2017—the NIH ended the
moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which
included the gain-of-function research, began."

Coincidence? Only a fool would believe the SARS-Cov-2 was a
natural occurrence.

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-mi
llions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741?amp=1
Click to expand...

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUVBgN9zbTk>
 
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:25:35 PM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
It's called gain-of-function research. And they apparently succeeded in making a real doozy.

The Obama administration halted funding for the research deemed too dangerous in 2014.

"Nevertheless, in 2014, under pressure from the Obama administration, the National of Institutes of Health instituted a moratorium on the work, suspending 21 studies."

Then the geniuses in the Trump administration, ignoring top scientific advice as usual, resumed funding for the research in 2017:

"Three years later, though—in December 2017—the NIH ended the moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began."

Coincidence? Only a fool would believe the SARS-Cov-2 was a natural occurrence.
Click to expand...

So who developed SARS and MERS?

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:25:30 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

It's called gain-of-function research. And they apparently succeeded in making a real doozy.

The Obama administration halted funding for the research deemed too dangerous in 2014.

"Nevertheless, in 2014, under pressure from the Obama administration, the National of Institutes of Health instituted a moratorium on the work, suspending 21 studies."

Then the geniuses in the Trump administration, ignoring top scientific advice as usual, resumed funding for the research in 2017:

"Three years later, though—in December 2017—the NIH ended the moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began."

Coincidence? Only a fool would believe the SARS-Cov-2 was a natural occurrence.

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741?amp=1
Click to expand...

What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918 flu
virus?



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:53:19 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
wrote:

Am 29.04.20 um 16:38 schrieb jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com:


What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918 flu
virus?

Do you mean the Kansas flu that was renamed Spanish to rewrite history?
That was not only not contained by the US but actively exported
with troop transporters full of ill GIs?

Gerhard
Click to expand...

Woodrow Wilson was a Democrat.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 07:49:09 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:38:21 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:25:30 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

It's called gain-of-function research. And they apparently succeeded in making a real doozy.

The Obama administration halted funding for the research deemed too dangerous in 2014.

"Nevertheless, in 2014, under pressure from the Obama administration, the National of Institutes of Health instituted a moratorium on the work, suspending 21 studies."

Then the geniuses in the Trump administration, ignoring top scientific advice as usual, resumed funding for the research in 2017:

"Three years later, though?n December 2017?he NIH ended the moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began."

Coincidence? Only a fool would believe the SARS-Cov-2 was a natural occurrence.

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741?amp=1

What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918 flu
virus?

NIH is supposed to be researching cures for disease, and not creating new ones.
Click to expand...

Virus research might be dangerous. But the alternative is to let colds
and flu kill millions of people every year forever.

All we can do is try to place smart bets, and play the game out.

C19 could be natural. All the previous centuries of colds and flu
were. We get colds and flu every winter.





--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:48:31 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:cv3jaf9it3qggm1thmf3tpcn1o7p81da2k@4ax.com:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:25:30 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

It's called gain-of-function research. And they apparently
succeeded in making a real doozy.

The Obama administration halted funding for the research deemed
too dangerous in 2014.

"Nevertheless, in 2014, under pressure from the Obama
administration, the National of Institutes of Health instituted a
moratorium on the work, suspending 21 studies."

Then the geniuses in the Trump administration, ignoring top
scientific advice as usual, resumed funding for the research in
2017:

"Three years later, though擁n December 2017葉he NIH ended the
moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which
included the gain-of-function research, began."

Coincidence? Only a fool would believe the SARS-Cov-2 was a
natural occurrence.

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-mi
llions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741?amp=1

What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918
flu virus?

The one that was in at the time, and the one just before that.

Bureaucracy growth was the rule of the day back then. Greedy
bastards as bad as Trump were rampant.

But inventing viruses? Usually outside a republican's mental and
intellectual purview. Definitely not outside their moral purview.

IOW, too stupid to do or come up with it, but definitely stupid
enough to concoct the idea and put it forth or even pay to have it
done.

But back then? They did not even know much about airborne
particulate at all.

You say some stupid shit though. Thought I would reference why.
The word for today is mindset.
Civil mindsets are different than careless idiot mindsets.

You hit number 2, Johnny.
Click to expand...

Fauci knew what had happened in China before the outbreak even made the news. It also explains why China was concentrating on shutting down Wuhan. It was because that's where the lab escape occurred and they KNEW they had a REALLY BAD problem with that thing getting loose. Otherwise thy could care less about a corona virus epidemic, because, up until then, corona virus was harmless. But for this one, they seemed to know beforehand it was anything but harmless.
 
Am 29.04.20 um 16:38 schrieb jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com:

What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918 flu
virus?
Click to expand...

Do you mean the Kansas flu that was renamed Spanish to rewrite history?
That was not only not contained by the US but actively exported
with troop transporters full of ill GIs?

Gerhard
 
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:38:21 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:25:30 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

It's called gain-of-function research. And they apparently succeeded in making a real doozy.

The Obama administration halted funding for the research deemed too dangerous in 2014.

"Nevertheless, in 2014, under pressure from the Obama administration, the National of Institutes of Health instituted a moratorium on the work, suspending 21 studies."

Then the geniuses in the Trump administration, ignoring top scientific advice as usual, resumed funding for the research in 2017:

"Three years later, though擁n December 2017葉he NIH ended the moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began."

Coincidence? Only a fool would believe the SARS-Cov-2 was a natural occurrence.

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741?amp=1

What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918 flu
virus?
Click to expand...

NIH is supposed to be researching cures for disease, and not creating new ones.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
Click to expand...
 
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:cv3jaf9it3qggm1thmf3tpcn1o7p81da2k@4ax.com:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:25:30 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

It's called gain-of-function research. And they apparently
succeeded in making a real doozy.

The Obama administration halted funding for the research deemed
too dangerous in 2014.

"Nevertheless, in 2014, under pressure from the Obama
administration, the National of Institutes of Health instituted a
moratorium on the work, suspending 21 studies."

Then the geniuses in the Trump administration, ignoring top
scientific advice as usual, resumed funding for the research in
2017:

"Three years later, though—in December 2017—the NIH ended the
moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which
included the gain-of-function research, began."

Coincidence? Only a fool would believe the SARS-Cov-2 was a
natural occurrence.

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-mi
llions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741?amp=1

What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918
flu virus?

The one that was in at the time, and the one just before that.
Click to expand...

Bureaucracy growth was the rule of the day back then. Greedy
bastards as bad as Trump were rampant.

But inventing viruses? Usually outside a republican's mental and
intellectual purview. Definitely not outside their moral purview.

IOW, too stupid to do or come up with it, but definitely stupid
enough to concoct the idea and put it forth or even pay to have it
done.

But back then? They did not even know much about airborne
particulate at all.

You say some stupid shit though. Thought I would reference why.
The word for today is mindset.
Civil mindsets are different than careless idiot mindsets.

You hit number 2, Johnny.
 
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 8:58:55 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:25:35 PM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
It's called gain-of-function research. And they apparently succeeded in making a real doozy.

The Obama administration halted funding for the research deemed too dangerous in 2014.

"Nevertheless, in 2014, under pressure from the Obama administration, the National of Institutes of Health instituted a moratorium on the work, suspending 21 studies."

Then the geniuses in the Trump administration, ignoring top scientific advice as usual, resumed funding for the research in 2017:

"Three years later, though—in December 2017—the NIH ended the moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began."

Coincidence? Only a fool would believe the SARS-Cov-2 was a natural occurrence.

So who developed SARS and MERS?
Click to expand...

Where do you think they got the idea to do gain-of-function research on the corona virus?

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Click to expand...
 
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:53:25 AM UTC-4, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 29.04.20 um 16:38 schrieb jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com:


What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918 flu
virus?

Do you mean the Kansas flu that was renamed Spanish to rewrite history?
That was not only not contained by the US but actively exported
with troop transporters full of ill GIs?

Gerhard
Click to expand...

If you European kids would just learn to get along, we wouldn't have
to come over so often! <grin>

Fair Warning: Next time we intend to bring 'light beer'.

Cheers,
James Arthur
 
Am 29.04.20 um 18:30 schrieb jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com:

If you European kids would just learn to get along, we wouldn't have
to come over so often! <grin

Fair Warning: Next time we intend to bring 'light beer'.

Cheers,
James Arthur

Threaten them with parachute drops of Bud Light and they won't dare
start another war.
Click to expand...

Now is still time for März Bock. 8%. No bank will give you that much.

We didn't start a war in the EU in last 75 years.
And you? How many were successful? Maybe Grenada?


Gerhard
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:11:22 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:53:25 AM UTC-4, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 29.04.20 um 16:38 schrieb jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com:


What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918 flu
virus?

Do you mean the Kansas flu that was renamed Spanish to rewrite history?
That was not only not contained by the US but actively exported
with troop transporters full of ill GIs?

Gerhard

If you European kids would just learn to get along, we wouldn't have
to come over so often! <grin

Fair Warning: Next time we intend to bring 'light beer'.

Cheers,
James Arthur
Click to expand...

Threaten them with parachute drops of Bud Light and they won't dare
start another war.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On 2020/04/29 9:11 a.m., dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:53:25 AM UTC-4, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 29.04.20 um 16:38 schrieb jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com:


What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918 flu
virus?

Do you mean the Kansas flu that was renamed Spanish to rewrite history?
That was not only not contained by the US but actively exported
with troop transporters full of ill GIs?

Gerhard

If you European kids would just learn to get along, we wouldn't have
to come over so often! <grin

Fair Warning: Next time we intend to bring 'light beer'.

Cheers,
James Arthur
Click to expand...

Ah, you guys just came over after the Canadians did all the hard work
and showed you the way...

John ;-#)#
 
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 11:27:11 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 07:49:09 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:38:21 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:25:30 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

It's called gain-of-function research. And they apparently succeeded in making a real doozy.

The Obama administration halted funding for the research deemed too dangerous in 2014.

"Nevertheless, in 2014, under pressure from the Obama administration, the National of Institutes of Health instituted a moratorium on the work, suspending 21 studies."

Then the geniuses in the Trump administration, ignoring top scientific advice as usual, resumed funding for the research in 2017:

"Three years later, though?n December 2017?he NIH ended the moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began."

Coincidence? Only a fool would believe the SARS-Cov-2 was a natural occurrence.

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741?amp=1

What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918 flu
virus?

NIH is supposed to be researching cures for disease, and not creating new ones.


Virus research might be dangerous. But the alternative is to let colds
and flu kill millions of people every year forever.
Click to expand...

Ummm.. not sure anyone doing research into colds and flu is creating super transmissible and lethal strains of those viruses.

And if anyone is doing research into coaxing lethal animal reservoir viruses into making the leap into the human race, then they need to be locked up immediately- and have their labs disinfected by being burned to a heap of ash.


All we can do is try to place smart bets, and play the game out.

C19 could be natural. All the previous centuries of colds and flu
were. We get colds and flu every winter.
Click to expand...

Not likely to be natural, it's too optimized for human infection.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
Click to expand...
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:50:39 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 11:27:11 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 07:49:09 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:38:21 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:25:30 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

It's called gain-of-function research. And they apparently succeeded in making a real doozy.

The Obama administration halted funding for the research deemed too dangerous in 2014.

"Nevertheless, in 2014, under pressure from the Obama administration, the National of Institutes of Health instituted a moratorium on the work, suspending 21 studies."

Then the geniuses in the Trump administration, ignoring top scientific advice as usual, resumed funding for the research in 2017:

"Three years later, though?n December 2017?he NIH ended the moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began."

Coincidence? Only a fool would believe the SARS-Cov-2 was a natural occurrence.

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741?amp=1

What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918 flu
virus?

NIH is supposed to be researching cures for disease, and not creating new ones.


Virus research might be dangerous. But the alternative is to let colds
and flu kill millions of people every year forever.

Ummm.. not sure anyone doing research into colds and flu is creating super transmissible and lethal strains of those viruses.

And if anyone is doing research into coaxing lethal animal reservoir viruses into making the leap into the human race, then they need to be locked up immediately- and have their labs disinfected by being burned to a heap of ash.



All we can do is try to place smart bets, and play the game out.

C19 could be natural. All the previous centuries of colds and flu
were. We get colds and flu every winter.

Not likely to be natural, it's too optimized for human infection.
Click to expand...

1918.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 12:30:26 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:11:22 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:53:25 AM UTC-4, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 29.04.20 um 16:38 schrieb jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com:


What Republican administration do you blame for inventing the 1918 flu
virus?

Do you mean the Kansas flu that was renamed Spanish to rewrite history?
That was not only not contained by the US but actively exported
with troop transporters full of ill GIs?

Gerhard

If you European kids would just learn to get along, we wouldn't have
to come over so often! <grin

Fair Warning: Next time we intend to bring 'light beer'.

Cheers,
James Arthur

Threaten them with parachute drops of Bud Light and they won't dare
start another war.
Click to expand...

Parachute drops of Bud Light would send me screaming into a bomb
shelter, too!

Cheers,
James
 
On 2020/04/29 9:44 a.m., Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 29.04.20 um 18:30 schrieb jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com:

If you European kids would just learn to get along, we wouldn't have
to come over so often! <grin

Fair Warning: Next time we intend to bring 'light beer'.

Cheers,
James Arthur

Threaten them with parachute drops of Bud Light and they won't dare
start another war.

Now is still time for März Bock. 8%. No bank will give you that much.

We didn't start a war in the EU in last 75 years.
And you? How many were successful? Maybe Grenada?


Gerhard
Click to expand...

Indeed true, I apologize for my silly comment.

John
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 18:44:33 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
wrote:

Am 29.04.20 um 18:30 schrieb jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com:

If you European kids would just learn to get along, we wouldn't have
to come over so often! <grin

Fair Warning: Next time we intend to bring 'light beer'.

Cheers,
James Arthur

Threaten them with parachute drops of Bud Light and they won't dare
start another war.

Now is still time for März Bock. 8%. No bank will give you that much.
Click to expand...

Some of those Belgian-monk tripels are killers too.

We didn't start a war in the EU in last 75 years.
Click to expand...

Good. Keep that up for a few thousand years.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
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