Sleepy Joe's "plan" to return America to normal

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in news:kXalG.5385$Xk.224@fx46.iad:

"Dinner" Yeah hopefully I'm going to get myself a pretty nice $50
steak once the steak house opens up again, thanks.

They saw you coming if you are paying %50 for a steak, or your town
let the greedy bastards succeed in business with that ridiculous price
point.

You probably only get a 12 oz mini slab for that price too.

We used to get a challenge of a huge steak that was $26 unless you
ate all of it, then it was free. At least that is what I remember.

Or maybe it is just because it has been so long since I went out and
had a steak.

Hell, it has been a while since I had one here which I cooked.

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in news:63blG.263$1y4.70@fx23.iad:

On 4/14/2020 12:31 AM, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:03:00 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/13/2020 11:16 PM, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the
immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread
availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease
down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense
Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our
disposal."

Done.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president
needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better"
means nothing.

He doesn't do shit but tweet, hold campaign rallies/press
conferences and go golfing

I didn't know that Sleepy Joe plays golf.


They all play golf. Maybe someday Americans will consider a
candidate who likes a real sport e.g. baseball.

Likes... sure. Plays...

Pool. A game of kings and nobles.

Fuck golf.

 

Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:eb1bc928-53c5-49f8-b0db-339d0abb2298@googlegroups.com:

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:34:16 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/14/2020 12:31 AM, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:03:00 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/13/2020 11:16 PM, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the
immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the
widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease
down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the
Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool
at our disposal."

Done.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president
needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do
better" means nothing.

He doesn't do shit but tweet, hold campaign rallies/press
conferences and go golfing

I didn't know that Sleepy Joe plays golf.


They all play golf. Maybe someday Americans will consider a
candidate who likes a real sport e.g. baseball.

Hey Dude, we ALREADY have him; he's called DONALD TRUMP!

Wow. You really have been TrumpnotizedŠ.

Pres
Trump was once scouted by the Phillies to play pro baseball

BULLSHIT! TRUMP claims that. 'The Phillies' does NOT back that
claim up.

From high school forward, Trump spent all his time circumnavigating
the draft with his bone spurs while he continued to remain
athletically active.

And that was just the beginning of his DaddyTrumpTrainedŠ
TrumpTrociousŠ behavior.

 

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 3:09:27 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 3:34:01 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:30:53 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:06:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:16:49 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"Effectively" means different things to different people. The US response has been one of the least effective around the world.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

And the US is doing remarkably poorly at it.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

Pity about the tools at your disposal.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

Get the number of active cases in the US to go down. It's still rising steadily, though not exponentially.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

In Australia the number of active cases peaked on the 4th April, and has been declining since then. We seem to be doing something right, and you clearly aren't.

"We should be running multiple times the number of diagnostic tests we’re performing right now. And we should be ready to scale up a second form of testing: rapid serology tests to tell who has already been infected with the coronavirus and has antibodies."

What ISN'T being done that could be done to get testing rates up? Most importantly is getting ACCURATE tests, as inaccurate tests are worse than no tests at all.

Less than perfectly reliable tests are useful, as long as their limitations are recognised. They certainly aren't worse than no tests at all, unless the results get into the hands of people who don't know what they are doing.

"This isn’t rocket science; it’s about investment and execution. We are now several months into this crisis, and still this administration has not squarely faced up to the “original sin” in its failed response — the failure to test."

WHAT investment would you make that ISN'T being made now? The US is testing more than ANYOTHER country in the world, so execution has been exemplary.

The US is rather low in the pecking order with 8,894 tests per million people.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Norway is way ahead with 23,483, and there are whole bunch of advanced industrial countries that do roughly twice as well. Germany is at 15,730 pewr million, and Australia is at 14,201.

Even Russia is doing marginally better at 8,908 tests per million people.

"Third, we have to make sure that our hospitals and health care system are ready for flare-ups of the disease that may occur when economic activity expands again."

Done. Emergency hospitals are being dismantled because projected need were much higher than what actually materialized.

In some places. New York isn't one of them

"Make no mistake: An effective plan to beat the virus is the ultimate answer to how we get our economy back on track. So we should stop thinking of the health and economic responses as separate. They are not."

Pres. Trump has reiterated: safety is paramount and supersedes economic issues.

But doesn't seem to act as if this is what he actually believes. He has been a liar all his life, and this seems to be one more of his lies.

"Once we have taken these steps, we can begin to reopen more businesses and put more people back to work. Things will not go back to “normal” right away. As public health experts have said, we should expect activity to return gradually, with sites like offices and stores reopening before arenas and theaters."

DUH! Tell us something that ISN'T being done!

Something effective to actively reduce the rate of new infections, rather than letting them creep down from about 30,000 new cases per day?

Bottom line: this is NO PLAN - it is just a bunch of platitudes that state the obvious.

What's obvious to Flyguy is that whatever Trump is doing has to be best possible thing for the US. What's obvious to less brain-washed observers is that Donald Trump wants to get re-elected in November, and doesn't really care how many Americans die of Covid-19 before then - though the poor weren't going to vote for him anyway, so if more of them die it's a win for him.

snip

...and "What's obvious to less brain-washed observers is that Donald Trump wants to get re-elected in November." Are you fucking brain dead? I guess so. Who in the world, outside of the shit-hole countries, DOESN'T know there's an election in the US in November???

Th rest of the sentence was "and doesn't really care how many Americans die of Covid-19 before then - though the poor weren't going to vote for him anyway, so if more of them die it's a win for him."

The point was not that he is running for re-election - which is well known - but rather that he regards the whole Covid-19 epidemic as nothing more than a media event that give him more air-time in which to campaign.

Well... the media views it as nothing more than a media event to constantly bash Trump.....cuts both ways

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 11:21:35 PM UTC+10, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 3:09:27 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 3:34:01 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:30:53 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:06:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:16:49 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

<snip>

> Well... the media views it as nothing more than a media event to constantly bash Trump.....cuts both ways.

The media does view it as an event which is interesting to their audience - the prospect of ending up dead does get people's attention.

Sadly, Trump has done absolutely nothing which could persuade the media to say anything positive about his performance. Pointing this out may look like Trump-bashing to Trump and his supporters, but even the people who want to say anything positive about him have very little material to spin, and the fact that America is doing worse at containing the epidemic than pretty much anybody else - despite having a month's or so advance warning that it was going to arrive, and a couple of examples of countries who did contain it much better without as much advance warning - doesn't leave the media a lot of room to say anything nice about Trump.

Trump does manage to find nice things to say about his performance, but he was a liar long before he was president, and giving him more power hasn't improved his character (if there's any character in there to improve).

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[bitrex]

On 4/14/2020 6:48 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

They all play golf. Maybe someday Americans will consider a
candidate who likes a real sport e.g. baseball.

Hey Dude, we ALREADY have him; he's called DONALD TRUMP!

Wow. You really have been TrumpnotizedŠ.

Pres
Trump was once scouted by the Phillies to play pro baseball

BULLSHIT! TRUMP claims that. 'The Phillies' does NOT back that
claim up.

From high school forward, Trump spent all his time circumnavigating
the draft with his bone spurs while he continued to remain
athletically active.

And that was just the beginning of his DaddyTrumpTrainedŠ
TrumpTrociousŠ behavior.

Right, it sure sounds like another confabulation that only one or two
kiss-asses claim to remember.

..300 is a great modern batting average in the majors when you're facing
Nolan Ryan (or modern equivalent experienced adult pitchers) with 104
mph fastballs, not against other teenagers

 

[bitrex]

On 4/14/2020 6:05 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in news:kXalG.5385$Xk.224@fx46.iad:

"Dinner" Yeah hopefully I'm going to get myself a pretty nice $50
steak once the steak house opens up again, thanks.



They saw you coming if you are paying %50 for a steak, or your town
let the greedy bastards succeed in business with that ridiculous price
point.

You probably only get a 12 oz mini slab for that price too.

We used to get a challenge of a huge steak that was $26 unless you
ate all of it, then it was free. At least that is what I remember.

Or maybe it is just because it has been so long since I went out and
had a steak.

Hell, it has been a while since I had one here which I cooked.

I didn't have my first "premium" steak at an "upscale" steakhouse until
I was in my 30s, Ruth's Chris I think it was.

You can surely make steaks as good as that at home, it was good but not
$50-72-good.

I've deceased my red-meat intake probably 80% since I turned 40, if I'm
going to get a steak a few times a year I'll contribute to the
hospitality-economy and let someone else cook it

 

[bitrex]

On 4/14/2020 11:45 AM, bitrex wrote:

On 4/14/2020 6:05 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in news:kXalG.5385$Xk.224@fx46.iad:

"Dinner" Yeah hopefully I'm going to get myself a pretty nice $50
steak once the steak house opens up again, thanks.



   They saw you coming if you are paying %50 for a steak, or your town
let the greedy bastards succeed in business with that ridiculous price
point.

   You probably only get a 12 oz mini slab for that price too.

   We used to get a challenge of a huge steak that was $26 unless you
ate all of it, then it was free.  At least that is what I remember.

   Or maybe it is just because it has been so long since I went out and
had a steak.

   Hell, it has been a while since I had one here which I cooked.


I didn't have my first "premium" steak at an "upscale" steakhouse until
I was in my 30s, Ruth's Chris I think it was.

You can surely make steaks as good as that at home, it was good but not
$50-72-good.

I've deceased my red-meat intake probably 80% since I turned 40, if I'm
going to get a steak a few times a year I'll contribute to the
hospitality-economy and let someone else cook it

"decreased" not "deceased" yes the goal is to avoid risk-factors for the
latter for older males

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in news:UVklG.329$qK6.255@fx22.iad:

On 4/14/2020 11:45 AM, bitrex wrote:
On 4/14/2020 6:05 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:kXalG.5385$Xk.224@fx46.iad:

"Dinner" Yeah hopefully I'm going to get myself a pretty nice
$50 steak once the steak house opens up again, thanks.



   They saw you coming if you are paying %50 for a steak, or
your town let the greedy bastards succeed in business with that
ridiculous price point.

   You probably only get a 12 oz mini slab for that price too.

   We used to get a challenge of a huge steak that was $26
unless you ate all of it, then it was free.  At least that is
what I remember.

   Or maybe it is just because it has been so long since I
went out and had a steak.

   Hell, it has been a while since I had one here which I
cooked.


I didn't have my first "premium" steak at an "upscale" steakhouse
until I was in my 30s, Ruth's Chris I think it was.

You can surely make steaks as good as that at home, it was good
but not $50-72-good.

I've deceased my red-meat intake probably 80% since I turned 40,
if I'm going to get a steak a few times a year I'll contribute to
the hospitality-economy and let someone else cook it

"decreased" not "deceased" yes the goal is to avoid risk-factors
for the latter for older males

Older males with a lifelong history of long chain triglyceride
intake and carrying a lot of personal fat.

A thin man not so much. I am just getting my second wind, and will
not stop eating red meat... once I can actually afford to do so
again.

I do ALSO eat leaner meats and I do know what foods are good for
you, and I either burn or pass long chain triglycerides because they
sure are not accumulating. But I am certainly the exception. I was
always able to eat and eat and eat and not gain and the guys and the
girls all were jealous of me there. I could climb to the top of the
rope in a few seconds flat... without my feet. I was a lean, mean
rope climbin' machine!

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in news:1wklG.561$2P1.308@fx15.iad:

On 4/14/2020 6:48 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:

They all play golf. Maybe someday Americans will consider a
candidate who likes a real sport e.g. baseball.

Hey Dude, we ALREADY have him; he's called DONALD TRUMP!

Wow. You really have been TrumpnotizedŠ.

Pres
Trump was once scouted by the Phillies to play pro baseball

BULLSHIT! TRUMP claims that. 'The Phillies' does NOT back
that
claim up.

From high school forward, Trump spent all his time
circumnavigating
the draft with his bone spurs while he continued to remain
athletically active.

And that was just the beginning of his DaddyTrumpTrainedŠ
TrumpTrociousŠ behavior.


Right, it sure sounds like another confabulation that only one or
two kiss-asses claim to remember.

Nice try. Seems Trump is the one with the memory problems...
again. And you. bit... rex...

<https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-
record.html>

.300 is a great modern batting average in the majors when you're
facing Nolan Ryan (or modern equivalent experienced adult
pitchers) with 104 mph fastballs, not against other teenagers

With 75mph fastballs, on a good day. Trump was NOT a fantastic
ball player... ever.