Sleepy Joe's "plan" to return America to normal

[Flyguy]

"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

"We should be running multiple times the number of diagnostic tests we’re performing right now. And we should be ready to scale up a second form of testing: rapid serology tests to tell who has already been infected with the coronavirus and has antibodies."

What ISN'T being done that could be done to get testing rates up? Most importantly is getting ACCURATE tests, as inaccurate tests are worse than no tests at all.

"This isn’t rocket science; it’s about investment and execution. We are now several months into this crisis, and still this administration has not squarely faced up to the “original sin” in its failed response — the failure to test."

WHAT investment would you make that ISN'T being made now? The US is testing more than ANYOTHER country in the world, so execution has been exemplary.

"Third, we have to make sure that our hospitals and health care system are ready for flare-ups of the disease that may occur when economic activity expands again."

Done. Emergency hospitals are being dismantled because projected need were much higher than what actually materialized.

"Make no mistake: An effective plan to beat the virus is the ultimate answer to how we get our economy back on track. So we should stop thinking of the health and economic responses as separate. They are not."

Pres. Trump has reiterated: safety is paramount and supersedes economic issues.

"Once we have taken these steps, we can begin to reopen more businesses and put more people back to work. Things will not go back to “normal” right away. As public health experts have said, we should expect activity to return gradually, with sites like offices and stores reopening before arenas and theaters."

DUH! Tell us something that ISN'T being done!

Bottom line: this is NO PLAN - it is just a bunch of platitudes that state the obvious.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/14/2020 12:31 AM, Flyguy wrote:

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:03:00 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/13/2020 11:16 PM, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

He doesn't do shit but tweet, hold campaign rallies/press conferences
and go golfing

I didn't know that Sleepy Joe plays golf.

They all play golf. Maybe someday Americans will consider a candidate
who likes a real sport e.g. baseball.

 

[Flyguy]

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:03:00 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:

On 4/13/2020 11:16 PM, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

He doesn't do shit but tweet, hold campaign rallies/press conferences
and go golfing

I didn't know that Sleepy Joe plays golf.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/14/2020 12:11 AM, Ricky C wrote:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 12:03:00 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

He doesn't do shit but tweet, hold campaign rallies/press conferences
and go golfing

I knew someone would rise to take the bait. Congrats, you just ended up in the frying pan as dinner.

Not to jerk John Larkin's style too much here but I spent the bulk of
today building circuits what did any of u bitches do but complain like
the complainer-in-chief. Someone's got to keep the economy running eh
boomerz?

"Dinner" Yeah hopefully I'm going to get myself a pretty nice $50 steak
once the steak house opens up again, thanks.

 

[Ricky C]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 12:03:00 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

He doesn't do shit but tweet, hold campaign rallies/press conferences
and go golfing

I knew someone would rise to take the bait. Congrats, you just ended up in the frying pan as dinner.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[bitrex]

On 4/13/2020 11:16 PM, Flyguy wrote:

"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

He doesn't do shit but tweet, hold campaign rallies/press conferences
and go golfing

 

[Flyguy]

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:30:53 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:06:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:16:49 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"Effectively" means different things to different people. The US response has been one of the least effective around the world.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

And the US is doing remarkably poorly at it.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

Pity about the tools at your disposal.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

Get the number of active cases in the US to go down. It's still rising steadily, though not exponentially.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

In Australia the number of active cases peaked on the 4th April, and has been declining since then. We seem to be doing something right, and you clearly aren't.

"We should be running multiple times the number of diagnostic tests we’re performing right now. And we should be ready to scale up a second form of testing: rapid serology tests to tell who has already been infected with the coronavirus and has antibodies."

What ISN'T being done that could be done to get testing rates up? Most importantly is getting ACCURATE tests, as inaccurate tests are worse than no tests at all.

Less than perfectly reliable tests are useful, as long as their limitations are recognised. They certainly aren't worse than no tests at all, unless the results get into the hands of people who don't know what they are doing.

"This isn’t rocket science; it’s about investment and execution. We are now several months into this crisis, and still this administration has not squarely faced up to the “original sin” in its failed response — the failure to test."

WHAT investment would you make that ISN'T being made now? The US is testing more than ANYOTHER country in the world, so execution has been exemplary.

The US is rather low in the pecking order with 8,894 tests per million people.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Norway is way ahead with 23,483, and there are whole bunch of advanced industrial countries that do roughly twice as well. Germany is at 15,730 pewr million, and Australia is at 14,201.

Even Russia is doing marginally better at 8,908 tests per million people.

"Third, we have to make sure that our hospitals and health care system are ready for flare-ups of the disease that may occur when economic activity expands again."

Done. Emergency hospitals are being dismantled because projected need were much higher than what actually materialized.

In some places. New York isn't one of them

"Make no mistake: An effective plan to beat the virus is the ultimate answer to how we get our economy back on track. So we should stop thinking of the health and economic responses as separate. They are not."

Pres. Trump has reiterated: safety is paramount and supersedes economic issues.

But doesn't seem to act as if this is what he actually believes. He has been a liar all his life, and this seems to be one more of his lies.

"Once we have taken these steps, we can begin to reopen more businesses and put more people back to work. Things will not go back to “normal” right away. As public health experts have said, we should expect activity to return gradually, with sites like offices and stores reopening before arenas and theaters."

DUH! Tell us something that ISN'T being done!

Something effective to actively reduce the rate of new infections, rather than letting them creep down from about 30,000 new cases per day?

Bottom line: this is NO PLAN - it is just a bunch of platitudes that state the obvious.

What's obvious to Flyguy is that whatever Trump is doing has to be best possible thing for the US. What's obvious to less brain-washed observers is that Donald Trump wants to get re-elected in November, and doesn't really care how many Americans die of Covid-19 before then - though the poor weren't going to vote for him anyway, so if more of them die it's a win for him..

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Hey Slow Man, you know whats missing in your diatribe (look it up): any EVIDENCE that Biden knows what the fuck he is doing, or can do it ANY better than Pres. Trump.

PS: You have to compare test per million by STATES, Dude. These countries are like medium sized states.

....and "What's obvious to less brain-washed observers is that Donald Trump wants to get re-elected in November." Are you fucking brain dead? I guess so. Who in the world, outside of the shit-hole countries, DOESN'T know there's an election in the US in November???

 

[Flyguy]

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:06:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:16:49 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"Effectively" means different things to different people. The US response has been one of the least effective around the world.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

And the US is doing remarkably poorly at it.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

Pity about the tools at your disposal.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

Get the number of active cases in the US to go down. It's still rising steadily, though not exponentially.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

In Australia the number of active cases peaked on the 4th April, and has been declining since then. We seem to be doing something right, and you clearly aren't.

"We should be running multiple times the number of diagnostic tests we’re performing right now. And we should be ready to scale up a second form of testing: rapid serology tests to tell who has already been infected with the coronavirus and has antibodies."

What ISN'T being done that could be done to get testing rates up? Most importantly is getting ACCURATE tests, as inaccurate tests are worse than no tests at all.

Less than perfectly reliable tests are useful, as long as their limitations are recognised. They certainly aren't worse than no tests at all, unless the results get into the hands of people who don't know what they are doing.

"This isn’t rocket science; it’s about investment and execution. We are now several months into this crisis, and still this administration has not squarely faced up to the “original sin” in its failed response — the failure to test."

WHAT investment would you make that ISN'T being made now? The US is testing more than ANYOTHER country in the world, so execution has been exemplary.

The US is rather low in the pecking order with 8,894 tests per million people.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Norway is way ahead with 23,483, and there are whole bunch of advanced industrial countries that do roughly twice as well. Germany is at 15,730 pewr million, and Australia is at 14,201.

Even Russia is doing marginally better at 8,908 tests per million people.

"Third, we have to make sure that our hospitals and health care system are ready for flare-ups of the disease that may occur when economic activity expands again."

Done. Emergency hospitals are being dismantled because projected need were much higher than what actually materialized.

In some places. New York isn't one of them

"Make no mistake: An effective plan to beat the virus is the ultimate answer to how we get our economy back on track. So we should stop thinking of the health and economic responses as separate. They are not."

Pres. Trump has reiterated: safety is paramount and supersedes economic issues.

But doesn't seem to act as if this is what he actually believes. He has been a liar all his life, and this seems to be one more of his lies.

"Once we have taken these steps, we can begin to reopen more businesses and put more people back to work. Things will not go back to “normal” right away. As public health experts have said, we should expect activity to return gradually, with sites like offices and stores reopening before arenas and theaters."

DUH! Tell us something that ISN'T being done!

Something effective to actively reduce the rate of new infections, rather than letting them creep down from about 30,000 new cases per day?

Bottom line: this is NO PLAN - it is just a bunch of platitudes that state the obvious.

What's obvious to Flyguy is that whatever Trump is doing has to be best possible thing for the US. What's obvious to less brain-washed observers is that Donald Trump wants to get re-elected in November, and doesn't really care how many Americans die of Covid-19 before then - though the poor weren't going to vote for him anyway, so if more of them die it's a win for him.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Hey Slow Man, you know whats missing in your diatribe (look it up): any EVIDENCE that Biden knows what the fuck he is doing, or can do it ANY better than Pres. Trump.

PS: You have to compare test per million by STATES, Dude. These countries are like medium sized states.

 

[Flyguy]

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:34:16 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:

On 4/14/2020 12:31 AM, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:03:00 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/13/2020 11:16 PM, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

He doesn't do shit but tweet, hold campaign rallies/press conferences
and go golfing

I didn't know that Sleepy Joe plays golf.


They all play golf. Maybe someday Americans will consider a candidate
who likes a real sport e.g. baseball.

Hey Dude, we ALREADY have him; he's called DONALD TRUMP! Pres Trump was once scouted by the Phillies to play pro baseball - he went to Wharton instead:
https://miscbaseball.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/donald-trumps-baseball-past/

 

[bitrex]

On 4/14/2020 1:06 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:

Bottom line: this is NO PLAN - it is just a bunch of platitudes that state the obvious.

What's obvious to Flyguy is that whatever Trump is doing has to be best possible thing for the US. What's obvious to less brain-washed observers is that Donald Trump wants to get re-elected in November, and doesn't really care how many Americans die of Covid-19 before then - though the poor weren't going to vote for him anyway, so if more of them die it's a win for him.

If he keeps those checks coming you might be surprised.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:16:49 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"Effectively" means different things to different people. The US response has been one of the least effective around the world.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

And the US is doing remarkably poorly at it.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

Pity about the tools at your disposal.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

Get the number of active cases in the US to go down. It's still rising steadily, though not exponentially.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

In Australia the number of active cases peaked on the 4th April, and has been declining since then. We seem to be doing something right, and you clearly aren't.

"We should be running multiple times the number of diagnostic tests we’re performing right now. And we should be ready to scale up a second form of testing: rapid serology tests to tell who has already been infected with the coronavirus and has antibodies."

What ISN'T being done that could be done to get testing rates up? Most importantly is getting ACCURATE tests, as inaccurate tests are worse than no tests at all.

Less than perfectly reliable tests are useful, as long as their limitations are recognised. They certainly aren't worse than no tests at all, unless the results get into the hands of people who don't know what they are doing.

"This isn’t rocket science; it’s about investment and execution. We are now several months into this crisis, and still this administration has not squarely faced up to the “original sin” in its failed response — the failure to test."

WHAT investment would you make that ISN'T being made now? The US is testing more than ANYOTHER country in the world, so execution has been exemplary..

The US is rather low in the pecking order with 8,894 tests per million people.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Norway is way ahead with 23,483, and there are whole bunch of advanced industrial countries that do roughly twice as well. Germany is at 15,730 pewr million, and Australia is at 14,201.

Even Russia is doing marginally better at 8,908 tests per million people.

"Third, we have to make sure that our hospitals and health care system are ready for flare-ups of the disease that may occur when economic activity expands again."

Done. Emergency hospitals are being dismantled because projected need were much higher than what actually materialized.

In some places. New York isn't one of them

"Make no mistake: An effective plan to beat the virus is the ultimate answer to how we get our economy back on track. So we should stop thinking of the health and economic responses as separate. They are not."

Pres. Trump has reiterated: safety is paramount and supersedes economic issues.

But doesn't seem to act as if this is what he actually believes. He has been a liar all his life, and this seems to be one more of his lies.

"Once we have taken these steps, we can begin to reopen more businesses and put more people back to work. Things will not go back to “normal” right away. As public health experts have said, we should expect activity to return gradually, with sites like offices and stores reopening before arenas and theaters."

DUH! Tell us something that ISN'T being done!

Something effective to actively reduce the rate of new infections, rather than letting them creep down from about 30,000 new cases per day?

> Bottom line: this is NO PLAN - it is just a bunch of platitudes that state the obvious.

What's obvious to Flyguy is that whatever Trump is doing has to be best possible thing for the US. What's obvious to less brain-washed observers is that Donald Trump wants to get re-elected in November, and doesn't really care how many Americans die of Covid-19 before then - though the poor weren't going to vote for him anyway, so if more of them die it's a win for him.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Ricky C]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 12:34:16 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 4/14/2020 12:31 AM, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:03:00 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/13/2020 11:16 PM, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

He doesn't do shit but tweet, hold campaign rallies/press conferences
and go golfing

I didn't know that Sleepy Joe plays golf.


They all play golf. Maybe someday Americans will consider a candidate
who likes a real sport e.g. baseball.

We had a president who played basketball. Can't get much more American than that!

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[bitrex]

On 4/14/2020 2:09 AM, Ricky C wrote:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 12:34:16 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 4/14/2020 12:31 AM, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:03:00 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/13/2020 11:16 PM, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

He doesn't do shit but tweet, hold campaign rallies/press conferences
and go golfing

I didn't know that Sleepy Joe plays golf.


They all play golf. Maybe someday Americans will consider a candidate
who likes a real sport e.g. baseball.

We had a president who played basketball. Can't get much more American than that!

Maybe Trump's major-league scouting report is in a file somewhere with
Obama's real birth certificate; by '68 anyone who was seriously scouted
by the majors likely would've had one.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/14/2020 2:24 AM, bitrex wrote:

On 4/14/2020 2:09 AM, Ricky C wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 12:34:16 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 4/14/2020 12:31 AM, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:03:00 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/13/2020 11:16 PM, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the
immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread
availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down
significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense
Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs
to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better"
means nothing.

He doesn't do shit but tweet, hold campaign rallies/press conferences
and go golfing

I didn't know that Sleepy Joe plays golf.


They all play golf. Maybe someday Americans will consider a candidate
who likes a real sport e.g. baseball.

We had a president who played basketball.  Can't get much more
American than that!


Maybe Trump's major-league scouting report is in a file somewhere with
Obama's real birth certificate; by '68 anyone who was seriously scouted
by the majors likely would've had one.

Peter Harrington probably could be confirmed to have exchanged a few
awkward smooches with Liz Kowalski at the junior semi-formal but somehow
this evolves into "bro. I totally banged her" by freshman year of college

 

[bitrex]

On 4/14/2020 1:27 AM, Flyguy wrote:

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:34:16 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/14/2020 12:31 AM, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:03:00 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/13/2020 11:16 PM, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

He doesn't do shit but tweet, hold campaign rallies/press conferences
and go golfing

I didn't know that Sleepy Joe plays golf.


They all play golf. Maybe someday Americans will consider a candidate
who likes a real sport e.g. baseball.

Hey Dude, we ALREADY have him; he's called DONALD TRUMP! Pres Trump was once scouted by the Phillies to play pro baseball - he went to Wharton instead:
https://miscbaseball.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/donald-trumps-baseball-past/

Ya, the Patriots management was at my high school one time too, we were
all just _this_ close to being signed.

"Trump, once scouted by the Philadelphia Phillies for his slick glove
and .300 bat"

Maybe it was different in '68 but batting .500 isn't uncommon for high
school players nowadays

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 3:30:53 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:06:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:16:49 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"Effectively" means different things to different people. The US response has been one of the least effective around the world.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

And the US is doing remarkably poorly at it.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

Pity about the tools at your disposal.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

Get the number of active cases in the US to go down. It's still rising steadily, though not exponentially.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

In Australia the number of active cases peaked on the 4th April, and has been declining since then. We seem to be doing something right, and you clearly aren't.

"We should be running multiple times the number of diagnostic tests we’re performing right now. And we should be ready to scale up a second form of testing: rapid serology tests to tell who has already been infected with the coronavirus and has antibodies."

What ISN'T being done that could be done to get testing rates up? Most importantly is getting ACCURATE tests, as inaccurate tests are worse than no tests at all.

Less than perfectly reliable tests are useful, as long as their limitations are recognised. They certainly aren't worse than no tests at all, unless the results get into the hands of people who don't know what they are doing.

"This isn’t rocket science; it’s about investment and execution. We are now several months into this crisis, and still this administration has not squarely faced up to the “original sin” in its failed response — the failure to test."

WHAT investment would you make that ISN'T being made now? The US is testing more than ANYOTHER country in the world, so execution has been exemplary.

The US is rather low in the pecking order with 8,894 tests per million people.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Norway is way ahead with 23,483, and there are whole bunch of advanced industrial countries that do roughly twice as well. Germany is at 15,730 pewr million, and Australia is at 14,201.

Even Russia is doing marginally better at 8,908 tests per million people.

"Third, we have to make sure that our hospitals and health care system are ready for flare-ups of the disease that may occur when economic activity expands again."

Done. Emergency hospitals are being dismantled because projected need were much higher than what actually materialized.

In some places. New York isn't one of them

"Make no mistake: An effective plan to beat the virus is the ultimate answer to how we get our economy back on track. So we should stop thinking of the health and economic responses as separate. They are not."

Pres. Trump has reiterated: safety is paramount and supersedes economic issues.

But doesn't seem to act as if this is what he actually believes. He has been a liar all his life, and this seems to be one more of his lies.

"Once we have taken these steps, we can begin to reopen more businesses and put more people back to work. Things will not go back to “normal” right away. As public health experts have said, we should expect activity to return gradually, with sites like offices and stores reopening before arenas and theaters."

DUH! Tell us something that ISN'T being done!

Something effective to actively reduce the rate of new infections, rather than letting them creep down from about 30,000 new cases per day?

Bottom line: this is NO PLAN - it is just a bunch of platitudes that state the obvious.

What's obvious to Flyguy is that whatever Trump is doing has to be best possible thing for the US. What's obvious to less brain-washed observers is that Donald Trump wants to get re-elected in November, and doesn't really care how many Americans die of Covid-19 before then - though the poor weren't going to vote for him anyway, so if more of them die it's a win for him..

Hey Slow Man, you know whats missing in your diatribe (look it up): any EVIDENCE that Biden knows what the fuck he is doing, or can do it ANY better than Pres. Trump.

Biden isn't president. What he's doing isn't going to make any difference to the number of Americans who end up dead of Covid-19.

PS: You have to compare test per million by STATES, Dude. These countries are like medium sized states.

Norway might be. Germany is twice the size of California, and Russia is a lot bigger.

One has to wonder why Flyguy thinks you have to compare tests per million population only between states. Probably it means that he can't find anything else to object to.

He's not going to admit that he posted total nonsense.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 3:34:01 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:30:53 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:06:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:16:49 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
"The plan has to start with responding effectively to the immediate medical crisis and ultimately lead to the widespread availability and administration of a vaccine."

Done.

"Effectively" means different things to different people. The US response has been one of the least effective around the world.

"First, we have to get the number of new cases of the disease down significantly."

DUH! This has been discussed Ad Nauseaum.

And the US is doing remarkably poorly at it.

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our disposal."

Done.

Pity about the tools at your disposal.

"For more Americans to go back to their jobs, the president needs to do better at his job."

How can the President do better? Be very specific - "do better" means nothing.

Get the number of active cases in the US to go down. It's still rising steadily, though not exponentially.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

In Australia the number of active cases peaked on the 4th April, and has been declining since then. We seem to be doing something right, and you clearly aren't.

"We should be running multiple times the number of diagnostic tests we’re performing right now. And we should be ready to scale up a second form of testing: rapid serology tests to tell who has already been infected with the coronavirus and has antibodies."

What ISN'T being done that could be done to get testing rates up? Most importantly is getting ACCURATE tests, as inaccurate tests are worse than no tests at all.

Less than perfectly reliable tests are useful, as long as their limitations are recognised. They certainly aren't worse than no tests at all, unless the results get into the hands of people who don't know what they are doing.

"This isn’t rocket science; it’s about investment and execution. We are now several months into this crisis, and still this administration has not squarely faced up to the “original sin” in its failed response — the failure to test."

WHAT investment would you make that ISN'T being made now? The US is testing more than ANYOTHER country in the world, so execution has been exemplary.

The US is rather low in the pecking order with 8,894 tests per million people.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Norway is way ahead with 23,483, and there are whole bunch of advanced industrial countries that do roughly twice as well. Germany is at 15,730 pewr million, and Australia is at 14,201.

Even Russia is doing marginally better at 8,908 tests per million people.

"Third, we have to make sure that our hospitals and health care system are ready for flare-ups of the disease that may occur when economic activity expands again."

Done. Emergency hospitals are being dismantled because projected need were much higher than what actually materialized.

In some places. New York isn't one of them

"Make no mistake: An effective plan to beat the virus is the ultimate answer to how we get our economy back on track. So we should stop thinking of the health and economic responses as separate. They are not."

Pres. Trump has reiterated: safety is paramount and supersedes economic issues.

But doesn't seem to act as if this is what he actually believes. He has been a liar all his life, and this seems to be one more of his lies.

"Once we have taken these steps, we can begin to reopen more businesses and put more people back to work. Things will not go back to “normal” right away. As public health experts have said, we should expect activity to return gradually, with sites like offices and stores reopening before arenas and theaters."

DUH! Tell us something that ISN'T being done!

Something effective to actively reduce the rate of new infections, rather than letting them creep down from about 30,000 new cases per day?

Bottom line: this is NO PLAN - it is just a bunch of platitudes that state the obvious.

What's obvious to Flyguy is that whatever Trump is doing has to be best possible thing for the US. What's obvious to less brain-washed observers is that Donald Trump wants to get re-elected in November, and doesn't really care how many Americans die of Covid-19 before then - though the poor weren't going to vote for him anyway, so if more of them die it's a win for him.

<snip>

> ...and "What's obvious to less brain-washed observers is that Donald Trump wants to get re-elected in November." Are you fucking brain dead? I guess so. Who in the world, outside of the shit-hole countries, DOESN'T know there's an election in the US in November???

Th rest of the sentence was "and doesn't really care how many Americans die of Covid-19 before then - though the poor weren't going to vote for him anyway, so if more of them die it's a win for him."

The point was not that he is running for re-election - which is well known - but rather that he regards the whole Covid-19 epidemic as nothing more than a media event that give him more air-time in which to campaign.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:036df165-c080-4822-816c-20dc6203387d@googlegroups.com:

"President Trump needs to use his full powers under the Defense
Production Act to fight the disease with every tool at our
disposal."

Done.

Bullshit. You retarded fuck.

He is dilly dallying around, still doing nothing, his staff doing
everything, while he comes out and does another "look how good we are
doing" campaign rally press conference. And goes back into his
"Let's make money on this drug" thing and his "Let's re-open our
economy" stupidity begging for a respike, becauae he got away with
killing so many the first time around!

You are a goddamned idiot, boy. Just like Trump is.

You could not be more blind if it were deliberate. Oh, that's
right, it is. You have deliberately shoved your head up Donald
Trump's ass and blinded yourself with his fecal cream face crust.

You stink, boy. And you look like you have had your head up some
totally retarded, lying politician's ass. Oh... That's right... You
have!

 

Flyturd <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:036df165-c080-4822-816c-20dc6203387d@googlegroups.com:

Pres. Trump has reiterated: safety is paramount and supersedes
economic issues.

Bullshit. That is NOT what he said. You left out the rest of his
line(s)... The ones he does say include stupid shit like this:

"Wanna buy some nice drugs?" "They might work." "I am a very stable
genius."

And the best one yet: "I do my own metrics."

Oh and Trump does not have words like "paramount" in his vocabulary.

Your post title is wrong. This is more like "FlyTurd's plan to post,
'Coming to you while freshly popped out of Trump's ass for a fine
TrumpanzeeŠ Usenet retard update broadpost'.

Or shortened, "Usenet Newsgroup invading FlyShit"

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2020-04-14, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 4/14/2020 1:27 AM, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:34:16 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 4/14/2020 12:31 AM, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:03:00 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:

They all play golf. Maybe someday Americans will consider a candidate
who likes a real sport e.g. baseball.

Hey Dude, we ALREADY have him; he's called DONALD TRUMP! Pres Trump was once scouted by the Phillies to play pro baseball - he went to Wharton instead:
https://miscbaseball.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/donald-trumps-baseball-past/

He even owned a football team for a while.

Ya, the Patriots management was at my high school one time too, we were
all just _this_ close to being signed.

"Trump, once scouted by the Philadelphia Phillies for his slick glove
and .300 bat"

Maybe it was different in '68 but batting .500 isn't uncommon for high
school players nowadays

Also I would think that a "sticky" glove would be better than a
"slick" one.


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Jasen.