Sign of Genius

[Immortalist]

On Aug 22, 1:57 pm, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

Although men are accused of not knowing their own weakness, yet
perhaps few know their own strength. It is in men as in soils, where
sometimes there is a vein of gold which the owner knows not of.

-- Jonathan Swift

 

[John Fields]

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:35:02 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

BretCahill@peoplepc.com wrote:

Put out the dunce shoe and the dunces fall over themselves trying to
get their foot to fit.

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

This quote is usually self-applied by fools and kooks.

Not that that's true or anyithing but take a gander at the OP.

All I did was post the quote w/o comment.

By your theory the dunces immediately appeared and applied it to
themselves.

Those who are
truly insightful are also wise enough not to apply it publicly to
themselves.

What would happen if they did?

Some dunce typing "LOL!"?

Only a complete idiot would give a rat's ass about a dunce typing
"LOL!"

Bret Cahill


It drives you over the edge every time you see it. By your logic you
are a complete idiot.

---


JF

 

[John]

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-- Jonathan Swift

And rule one of a net kook is that he begins his posits by claiming
conspiracies of authority. Rather like god began the ten commandments.

The dunce cap originated during the Inquisition. Victims released to the
public after their trials were to wear it to distinguish themselves as
persons in the process of reintegrating to society.

 

[rlbell.nsuid@gmail.com]

On Aug 22, 10:06 pm, "BobW" <nimby_GIMME_SOME_S...@roadrunner.com>
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:08:05 +0200, QuantumDot <d...@ohnoyoudont.co.za
wrote:

On 2008-08-22 22:57:40 +0200, BretCah...@peoplepc.com said:

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

This quote is usually self-applied by fools and kooks. Those who are
truly insightful are also wise enough not to apply it publicly to
themselves.

It's not true anyhow. Shakespeare; Feynman; Einstein; Kovacs; Kelvin;
all revered in their time.

Can anybody name a real genius who was attacked by all available
dunces?

John

Galileo.

One of the Great Myths of modern times was that Galileo was persecuted

for describing the truth of the planets. He was in fact lightly
punished for being a tactless boor who could label a friend he knew
since childhood as an simpleton to advance point (even if that was not
what he meant to do). Unfortunately for Galileo, that man he had
known since childhood was the pope, so Galileo was placed under house
arrest in a luxurious papal palace. It was not what he said, but how
he said it.

Galileo's troubles was nearly fifty years after the papacy started to
sponsor astronomical research, in a big way.

The best way to describe Galileo is that, while he was scientifically
brilliant, he was sorely lacking in the people skills needed for
academic infighting.

 

[Robert Monsen]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:13:34 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

This flushes 'em out like magic.

Ah, he is a plumber!

Bret Cahill

 

[Robert Monsen]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:06:24 -0500, "Jon Slaughter"
<Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> wrote:

BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

"A true genius never has any need to appear in a newsgroup to try to prove
his genius."

-- Jonathan Slaughter

"I've always believed no matter how many shots I miss, I'm going to
make the next one. "

-- Johathan Swift

 

[Robert Monsen]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:57:40 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

"Invention is the talent of youth, as judgment is of age."

-- Jonathan Swift

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:06:24 -0500, "Jon Slaughter"
<Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> wrote:

BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:a4310291-af57-413c-9ee8-e6d5b406d541@j1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

"A true genius never has any need to appear in a newsgroup to try to prove
his genius."

-- Jonathan Slaughter

"Generalizations don't mean much."

- John Larkin

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

stan wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

QuantumDot wrote:

On 2008-08-23 02:52:21 +0200, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> said:

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:13:34 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

This flushes 'em out like magic.


Bret Cahill




Just because you're obnoxious doesn't make you a genius. Or a tractor
driver, even.

John

I'm sure he'd be good as a plow behind said tractor.


He wouldn't even make good fertilizer.

I might have to question this point. Bullshit properly treated is a
pretty good fertilizer. In fact we may have just solved the day job
question raised earlier.

The problem is that he has recycled his bullshit in his head so many
times it has become a klien bottle, which can not be composted, or
processed.

<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLD&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=klein+bottle&spell=1>


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There are two kinds of people on this earth:
The crazy, and the insane.
The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.

 

[John Fields]

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:43:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

rlbell.nsuid@gmail.com wrote:
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:08:05 +0200, QuantumDot
d...@ohnoyoudont.co.za> wrote:

On 2008-08-22 22:57:40 +0200, BretCah...@peoplepc.com said:

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

This quote is usually self-applied by fools and kooks. Those who
are truly insightful are also wise enough not to apply it publicly
to themselves.

It's not true anyhow. Shakespeare; Feynman; Einstein; Kovacs;
Kelvin; all revered in their time.

Can anybody name a real genius who was attacked by all available
dunces?

Galileo.

One of the Great Myths of modern times was that Galileo was persecuted
for describing the truth of the planets. He was in fact lightly
punished for being a tactless boor who could label a friend he knew
since childhood as an simpleton to advance point (even if that was not
what he meant to do). Unfortunately for Galileo, that man he had
known since childhood was the pope, so Galileo was placed under house
arrest in a luxurious papal palace. It was not what he said, but how he said it.

How odd that Bruno got burnt at the stake.

Galileo's troubles was nearly fifty years after the papacy
started to sponsor astronomical research, in a big way.

And didnt like what that sponsoring produced.

---
And only a few years ago admitted that Geocentrism was wrong.

JF

 

[Charlie Siegrist]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:57:40 -0700, BretCahill wrote:

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign,
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

Fancying yourself a genius is a Sign of Delusion. If you are not deluded
and are indeed a genius, as your mind tells you you are, please answer
the question addressed in the referenced news article. I've been waiting
for a reply to that post for some time now. Thank you.

<5af9a4diagnlhp5gstdfv7qorb9eqthqp2@4ax.com>

 

[Eeyore]

QuantumDot wrote:

Eeyore said:
BretCahill@peoplepc.com wrote:

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

I knew a guy once thought amongst other curious things that mp3 bit
rates were *higher* than CD and gave better quality.

He was nominally the department's 'technical manager'. He had it in for
me too.

As long as it ain't the good 'ol flame war about vinyl vs CD.

Strangely as it happens, he has been known to restore original juke boxes.

Graham

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

stan wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

stan wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
He wouldn't even make good fertilizer.

I might have to question this point. Bullshit properly treated is a
pretty good fertilizer. In fact we may have just solved the day job
question raised earlier.


The problem is that he has recycled his bullshit in his head so many
times it has become a klien bottle, which can not be composted, or
processed.

You're probably right, fertilizer is too big a step up. Maybe toxic
waste is closer?

Yes, unless he's been dropped from the EPA's 'Superfund' lists.
OTOH, he's so dense that he could be our solution to nuclear waste.
Feed it to him, and nothing would ever escape.


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The crazy, and the insane.
The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.

 

[turtoni]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuxWVcqkOQY

 

[John Fields]

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:07:30 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

Just because I don't type "LOL!" doesn't mean I have some fun with the
insecure idiots who do.

---
Learn some grammar, LOL!

JF

 

[Bret Cahill]

Put out the dunce shoe and the dunces fall over themselves trying to
get their foot to fit.

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

This quote is usually self-applied by fools and kooks.

Not that that's true or anyithing but take a gander at the OP.

All I did was post the quote w/o comment.

By your theory the dunces immediately appeared and applied it to
themselves.

Those who are
truly insightful are also wise enough not to apply it publicly to
themselves.

What would happen if they did?

Some dunce typing "LOL!"?

Notice the dodge?

Only a complete idiot would give a rat's ass about a dunce typing
"LOL!"

Bret Cahill

� �It drives you over the edge every time you see it. �

Yer projecting.

Just because I don't type "LOL!" doesn't mean I have some fun with the
insecure idiots who do.

Here, let's try again:

"Those who are truly insightful are also wise enough not to apply it
publicly to themselves."

What would happen if they did?

Some dunce typing "LOL!"?

Remember, no dodgin'.


Bret Cahill

 

[John Fields]

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:25:27 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

This one is even easier to call than the attempt to impress by
claiming a profitable patent and then being too modest to post the
patent number.

---
Wrong again.

It isn't modesty, its an attempt to rankle you by not letting you have
your way, and it seems to be working pretty well, since you just can't
seem to let go of it.

Same way with the LOL thing.
---

LOL,

Well at least you aren't swearing. That reduces readership.

---
Fuck you, puke.
---

you certainly seem to be making quite a commotion over it!

I hate to burst your bubble, but anyone can google "Bret Cahill" and
find out his real interests.

---
That isn't the issue. The issue is that you can't seem to stop
ranting on and on, ad nauseam about typing 'LOL', and then you post:

"Only a complete idiot would give a rat's ass about a dunce typing
"LOL!"

Making it abundantly clear that since you do give much more than a
rat's ass about it you admit to being a complete idiot.

I don't expect you'll be able to see how the inference is drawn, which
adds more fuel to the fire.

Anyway, why would anyone want to check you out on Google when just
from your posts in the few newsgroups to which this thread is being
posted you come across as a thoroughly obnoxious ass?
---

It's easy for anyone to document that the dunces spend more time
on my threads than _I_ spend on my threads.

---
If they read you at all and think kindly of you it's probably because
they've found a kindred spirit in a pointy hat. "Birds of a feather"
and all that...
---

I must confess, however, I'm a little curious. How do you manage to
make yourself look increasingly stupid every time you post?

---
I don't; it's an optical illusion which affects those like you who
aren't able to keep up as the material gets progressively more
difficult. The "Genius talking to the moron" thing.
---

Here you are, suggesting something that can be easily disproved with
the click of a mouse.

---
Disprove away, then.
---

That wasn't true for your pretend patent.

---
Something else you don't give a rat's ass about? Apparently, since
you're making almost as much of a commotion about it as about LOL,
LOL!

It wasn't a pretend patent at all, it was a document issued to me by
the Government of The United States of America which states that I'm
an inventor. Not a wannabe inventor, like you, but a _real_ one along
with some of the other guys here.

Matter of fact, since you seem to be so upset about it, I'll make your
sorry life a little easier: I've posted the patent number to USENET on
several occasions, and Google archives text articles so go looking for
it under my name there.

You do know how to use Google to make USENET searches, right?

JF

 

[John Fields]

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:36:43 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

You can brag or you can be modest but if you do both in the same
thread all kinds of flags and alarms are going to go off.

---
Bullshit.

It's perfectly appropriate to brag about being modest.

JF

 

[Bret Cahill]

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign,
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

Fancying yourself a genius is a Sign of Delusion.

Did Swift fancy himself a genius and if he did, was he delusional?

Even as a little kid I never thought Swift's work was all that
brilliant. On the other hand, maybe a mediocre writer could still
have great insights.

Few here will deny Einstein was a genius. How is the Swift quote
different than the infamous Einstein "great spirit" remark, beat to
death more than any other quote by nerdy college sophmores?

Maybe great minds really _do_ think alike. In that case many would
agree Swift was a genius.

�If you are not deluded
and are indeed a genius,

The OP quote was presented by itself w/o comment.

The any inferences that the original poster applied it to anyone here
can only be the result of projecting.


Bret Cahill


"Only nobodies are ever modest."

-- Goethe

 

[Bret Cahill]

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this
sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

-- Jonathan Swift

"Invention is the talent of youth, as judgment is of age."

-- Jonathan Swift

"Fun is the father of invention."

-- Bret Cahill


"Only nobodies are ever modest."

-- Goethe