set top boxes for digital TV

[Casual Looker]

In article <3f10e0f8$0$20077$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, "Mark Kelepouris" <markkelepouris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Hi group,

However I have one problem and one question.
The problem is in 4:3 fullscreen the picture is a little compressed and off
side across the screen.

Same problem with mine (it seems to crop the pic a little), but it's OK, so I
don't worry much about it. Most of the time I leave it on letter box setting
anyway.

The question is, since I had to go STB Scart to Video/Audio in on a VCR
then RF to TV, am I likely to be losing much in quality?

Why not scart to V/A then videoand audio out from video to TV - better pic.

BTW I upgraded the S/W to 1.02 but it didnt fix the size problem and since
it hasnt rained heavily here yet (Burwood VIC) I dont know how stable it all
is.
I'd be happy to recieve any advice or comments.
Mark K.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Casual Looker" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Why not scart to V/A then videoand audio out from video to TV - better
pic.

** No AV inputs on his TV.



........... Phil

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

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"Alan Rutlidge" <rutlidge*nO-sPaM*@mail.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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Phil, once again hasn't got his facts correct. That post must be at
least
10 years old (from memory).


From: Alan Rutlidge (Little_Black_Duck@bigpond.com.au)
Subject: Re: Life above 20 kHz
View: Complete Thread (19 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Date: 1998/01/06

rslomkow@enteract.com (Robin Slomkowski) writes: > In article
68brdu$6d8@merckx.graphics.cornell.edu>, Dennis Moore
dennis.moore@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
So does anyone know why Mr. Stuart of Meridian thinks that 58khz
sampling is audibly transparent, but that 44.1khz sampling is not?
It is interesting those are the numbers he selects those are the same
numbers some friends of mine who do work with computer telephone
messaging came up with. They found that users complained of
"computerized voices" arround 44.1khz, but that 58khz users didn't
complain and said it sounded just like someone talking on the other
end. So that was the rate wich they decided on.
-R*S

I wish I had been following this article from the beginning as it
seems to (correct me if I'm wrong) strayed from RAHE. The voice
sampling at 44.1KHz would be irrelevant over a telephone line as
nearly all trunk and junction connections via a modern Digital Public
Switched Telephone Network are acheived by 64Kb/s digital
timeslots. Each speech sample is at an 8KHz rate as the bandwidth
requirement is only 3.1KHz (300Hz to 3.4KHz) per channel. These are
ITU-T recommendations using A-Law encoding algorithm. Each sample
is represented as an eight bit binary word. The US standard is
similar to that of the ITU-T with the exception of the encoding
algorithm which is mu-Law (sorry can't put in the greek letter for
"mu"). Given that the sampling rate for a telephony circuit is only
8KHz the arguement of 44.1 or 58KHz seems superflous ? ?

Alan Rutlidge
Senior Technologies Lecturer (Advanced Digital Telecommunications
Technologies and Electronics)
Telstra Learning - Telstra Corporation, Australia
e-mail: arutlidg@wttsman1.telstra.com.au

********************************************************************
* The views in this posting are my own personal ones and not those *
* of that of my employer - Telstra Corporation. Thank you. *
********************************************************************


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** The post is a bit over 5 years old.

Gee Phil, working out the Google search engine again are we? Posted last
century. Might as well be a lifetime ago.

On the subject of Google searches - perhaps typing in "Phil Allison" and
then clicking on the groups tab may just reveal how popular you really are
Phil. Hmmmm some 88,000 + results I believe. Most not very complimentary.

When did you get the boot Alan ???

Is my employment history relevant? Never got the "boot" from any company
I've worked for, so how about you seeing you're suddenly so interested?

Phil Allison, you have been warned. Any future posts claiming I work
for
Telstra Corporation Limited is likely to see legal action from me if not
from Telstra if they so decide.


** But you used to work for them and quite recently.
But your claim as of a few days ago was that I do work for that company,

which is incorrect. In fact I have corrected you on previous occassions on
just this point but you insist on making claims to the contrary.

So you consider that having worked for Telstra is a slur on a
person's character and must not be mentioned in public ??

Did I say that?

Is that the basis of your proposed suit ??

Versace will do just fine thanks Phil.

.............. Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

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Phil wrote:

** The post is a bit over 5 years old.

Gee Phil, working out the Google search engine again are we? Posted last
century. Might as well be a lifetime ago.

** How asinine.

You worked for Telstra until a few years ago at most.

You spent most of your life there - right ??

On the subject of Google searches - perhaps typing in "Phil Allison" and
then clicking on the groups tab may just reveal how popular you really are
Phil. Hmmmm some 88,000 + results I believe. Most not very
complimentary.

** Who is trying to be popular ?

Only fools are popular - since there are so many like minded
about.

When did you get the boot Alan ???

Is my employment history relevant?

** Your arsehole attitude is relevant - being a puffed up Telstra
instructor explains that.

Phil Allison, you have been warned. Any future posts claiming I work
for > > Telstra Corporation Limited is likely to see legal action from me
if not
from Telstra if they so decide.


** But you used to work for them and quite recently.

But your claim as of a few days ago was that I do work for that company,
which is incorrect.

** Far as I know you still do - as you will not say who you work for
now.

So you consider that having worked for Telstra is a slur on a
person's character and must not be mentioned in public ??

Did I say that?

** " Phil Allison, you have been warned. Any future posts claiming I
work
for Telstra Corporation Limited is likely to see legal action
from me if not
from Telstra if they so decide. "


........ looks like you think it is defamatory.




............. Phil

 

[Mark Kelepouris]

Hi mate,
The picture isnt what i'd call cropped though, it is clearly distorted and
the inconsistant band on the sides shits me. Its off centre too. It'll be
going back if I dont solve it.
One thing that should say is, I remember an off centre image (not too bad
though) when I tried Cable TV years ago (same set) but no image distortion
from memory.
Mark K.
"Casual Looker" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <3f10e0f8$0$20077$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, "Mark
Kelepouris" <markkelepouris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
Hi group,

However I have one problem and one question.
The problem is in 4:3 fullscreen the picture is a little compressed and
off
side across the screen.

Same problem with mine (it seems to crop the pic a little), but it's OK,
so I
don't worry much about it. Most of the time I leave it on letter box
setting
anyway.

The question is, since I had to go STB Scart to Video/Audio in on a VCR
then RF to TV, am I likely to be losing much in quality?

Why not scart to V/A then videoand audio out from video to TV - better
pic.

BTW I upgraded the S/W to 1.02 but it didnt fix the size problem and
since
it hasnt rained heavily here yet (Burwood VIC) I dont know how stable it
all
is.
I'd be happy to recieve any advice or comments.
Mark K.

 

[Rob Judd]

Mark Kelepouris wrote:

Hi group,
I'm NOT wishing enter the 'slinging match' side of this topic, though I just
picked up the DV-B300 for similar reasons as the OP.
I can return it if i'm not happy anyway.
Well I am happy, it brought new life to my ageing HMV tx100. I now have
great stereo sound, clean picture, extra channels, pgm info, teletext etc
and a new remote (the original was cactus)
However I have one problem and one question.
The problem is in 4:3 fullscreen the picture is a little compressed and off
side across the screen.
The question is, since I had to go STB Scart to Video/Audio in on a VCR
then RF to TV, am I likely to be losing much in quality?

Yes. Best is straight into a plasma screen, followed by AV into either a
TV or LCD screen. In fact, modulated RF into an old TV is the worst of
the lot. However, since that set will be usable for another eight years,
it's a good compromise. In the near future you could try scrounging a TV
with AV inputs or a SCART plug, they'll become almost free soon enough.

Rob

 

[Phil Allison]

"Mark Kelepouris" <markkelepouris@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Hi mate,

The picture isnt what i'd call cropped though, it is clearly distorted and
the inconsistant band on the sides shits me. Its off centre too. It'll be
going back if I dont solve it

** Ring Teac customer support - what you say is not normal.

Also try the aus.TV.digital newsgroup.



............ Phil

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

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"Alan Rutlidge" <rutlidge*nO-sPaM*@mail.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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Phil wrote:


** The post is a bit over 5 years old.

Gee Phil, working out the Google search engine again are we? Posted
last
century. Might as well be a lifetime ago.


** How asinine.

You worked for Telstra until a few years ago at most.

You spent most of your life there - right ??

So this is an admission you were wrong about my current employer?

On the subject of Google searches - perhaps typing in "Phil Allison" and
then clicking on the groups tab may just reveal how popular you really
are
Phil. Hmmmm some 88,000 + results I believe. Most not very
complimentary.


** Who is trying to be popular ?

Only fools are popular - since there are so many like minded
about.



When did you get the boot Alan ???

Is my employment history relevant?


** Your arsehole attitude is relevant - being a puffed up Telstra
instructor explains that.

My attitude (which obviously and successfully agravates you) is irrelevant
to whom I may or may not be employed by.

Phil Allison, you have been warned. Any future posts claiming I
work
for > > Telstra Corporation Limited is likely to see legal action from
me
if not
from Telstra if they so decide.


** But you used to work for them and quite recently.

But your claim as of a few days ago was that I do work for that company,
which is incorrect.


** Far as I know you still do - as you will not say who you work for
now.

Who I may or may not be working for is my business and the business of my
employer. As I have told you before (geez you must be thick), I don't work
for Telstra or any of it's partners. If you don't believe me test the
water. Ring up and make a bogus complaint about me. Get their response in
writing and post it here for all to read. Then we will see who is
bullshitting. I doubt if you will rise to the challenge. In just about
every other occassion I have challenged you to furnish evidence from a
witness or third part you have been unable to do so.

You're just full of bullshit and bad manners. I think just about everyone
who reads this NG will agree.

So you consider that having worked for Telstra is a slur on a
person's character and must not be mentioned in public ??

Did I say that?


** " Phil Allison, you have been warned. Any future posts claiming
I
work
for Telstra Corporation Limited is likely to see legal action
from me if not
from Telstra if they so decide. "


........ looks like you think it is defamatory.

No just blatent lies.


............ Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Alan Rutlidge" <rutlidge*nO-sPaM*@mail.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Phil wrote:


** The post is a bit over 5 years old.

Gee Phil, working out the Google search engine again are we? Posted
last century. Might as well be a lifetime ago.


** How asinine.

You worked for Telstra until a few years ago at most.

You spent most of your life there - right ??


So this is an admission you were wrong about my current employer?

** No - not until you reveal your present one.

** Your arsehole attitude is relevant - being a puffed up Telstra
instructor explains that.

My attitude (which obviously and successfully agravates you) is irrelevant
to whom I may or may not be employed by.

** You would be the same arsehole no matter where you worked - that is
true.

But arseholes congregate - so your employment is of interest.

But your claim as of a few days ago was that I do work for that
company,
which is incorrect.


** Far as I know you still do - as you will not say who you work
for
now.

Who I may or may not be working for is my business and the business of my
employer.

** You were proud to show it off when it was Telsta - what is the
problem now ??

Working as a shelf packer in Flemmings now - are you ???

So you consider that having worked for Telstra is a slur on a
person's character and must not be mentioned in public ??

Did I say that?


** " Phil Allison, you have been warned. Any future posts
claiming
I work for Telstra Corporation Limited is likely to see legal action
from me if not from Telstra if they so decide. "


........ looks like you think it is defamatory.


No just blatent lies.

** Shame you cannot me sue over that.




.............. Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Rob Judd" <judd@ob-wan.com> wrote in message
news:3F12307D.9F77C539@ob-wan.com...

Yes. Best is straight into a plasma screen, followed by AV into either a
TV or LCD screen. In fact, modulated RF into an old TV is the worst of
the lot.

However, since that set will be usable for another eight years,

** You have great faith in an 18 year old HMV.



.............. Phil

 

[Mark Kelepouris]

Phil,
You must have missed a part of my first post, I already upgraded the s/w to
1.02, but it didnt solve the size problem.
It was the first thing I did but I reckon if anything, it made it a little
worse.
Thanks for your help anyway.
Mark K.

"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Mark Kelepouris" <markkelepouris@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f122c85$0$20079$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Hi mate,
The picture isnt what i'd call cropped though, it is clearly distorted
and
the inconsistant band on the sides shits me. Its off centre too. It'll
be
going back if I dont solve it.


** From: aus.TV.digital


DV-B300 Software Version is now v1.02

Upgrade Details:

Customers with V1.00 software may want to update their set-top box.
We have found some minor bugs within the initial software release.

We have made some fixes and improvements such as the following:
1. S-VHS feature was not storing when box is switched off.
2. Sometimes a pop sound may be heard when switching channels.
3. The 4:3 fullscreen mode wasn't correctly cantered.

NEW FEATURE:
Users have the ability to SKIP unwanted services. Simply press MENU,
select the Channel List and press YELLOW/ORANGE key to skip that channel.

WinZip File Contains: (580kB approx) (click on the picture)

ALL FILES {Uploader program works on Win95/98/98SE/ME/XP/2000}

Zip File Download:
http://stb.teac.com.au/pages/files/300files.zip



............. Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Mark Kelepouris" <markkelepouris@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Phil,
You must have missed a part of my first post, I already upgraded the s/w
to
1.02, but it didnt solve the size problem.

** Did you ring Teac ???????????????????????



.............. Phil

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

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Phil wrote:




So this is an admission you were wrong about my current employer?


** No - not until you reveal your present one.

This means you haven't been able to confirm or deny that I am currently
employed by Telstra , right? Face it Phil, you're just clutching at straws.
All talk no action. I may be working for more than one employer, but then
again I might be working for no one. Care to guess again? You could try 50
/ 50, poll the audience or maybe phone a friend. Oh sorry, I forgot, the
last option isn't available to you - you probably don't have any
friends........

You see Phil, you have a particular mind set which makes assumptions about
all sorts of things to which you have no information to back up your claims.
Let us just assume (for the purpose of the arguement) that I don't work for
Telstra which I have told you repeatedly in the past few days and of course
on previous occassions that I don't.

I could very well be in any of the following situations -
1) Working for another company or companies
2) Self employed
3) Self funded retirement
4) Mandatory retirement
5) Superannuated out on the grounds of invalidity (injury, ill health etc)
6) Carer pension
7) On holiday / furlough
8) Volunteering my services abroad.
or any miriad of possibilities....

Care to take a punt?

** Your arsehole attitude is relevant - being a puffed up
Telstra
instructor explains that.

My attitude (which obviously and successfully agravates you) is
irrelevant
to whom I may or may not be employed by.


** You would be the same arsehole no matter where you worked - that is
true.

But arseholes congregate - so your employment is of interest.

Only to you Phil. I don't think anyone else gives a toss. A bit paranoid
about accidentally dealing with someone or some company I may or may not be
associated with? Tisk, tisk, tisk, you really do need to get a life don't
you?

But your claim as of a few days ago was that I do work for that
company,
which is incorrect.


** Far as I know you still do - as you will not say who you work
for
now.

You must be a bit slow on the uptake Phil. You haven't telephoned Telstra
to confirm that I don't work for then yet? Come on Phil, you disappoint me.
I would have expected you to have publically posted your evidence by now.
That's of course if you had any.......

Who I may or may not be working for is my business and the business of
my
employer.


** You were proud to show it off when it was Telsta - what is the
problem now ??

"Telsta" - which company is this?

Working as a shelf packer in Flemmings now - are you ???

Errh, who are Flemmings when they are at home? Never heard of them.
Perhaps we don't have a Flemmings in my home town / state? Enlighten me
Phil. Maybe directions to my nearest Flemmings might help.

So you consider that having worked for Telstra is a slur on
a
person's character and must not be mentioned in public ??

Did I say that?


** " Phil Allison, you have been warned. Any future posts
claiming
I work for Telstra Corporation Limited is likely to see legal action
from me if not from Telstra if they so decide. "


........ looks like you think it is defamatory.


No just blatent lies.



** Shame you cannot me sue over that.

It's only worth sueing someone if there is anything to get from the
defendant in the settlement. In your case, not much I suspect.

............. Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Alan Rutlidge" <rutlidge*nO-sPaM*@mail.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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So this is an admission you were wrong about my current employer?


** No - not until you reveal your present one.


This means you haven't been able to confirm or deny that I am currently
employed by Telstra , right?

** You seem to care a lot more than I do.

Your past is clear enough and says it all.

You see Phil, you have a particular mind set which makes assumptions about
all sorts of things to which you have no information to back up your
claims.
Let us just assume (for the purpose of the arguement) that I don't work
for
Telstra which I have told you repeatedly in the past few days and of
course
on previous occassions that I don't.

I could very well be in any of the following situations -
1) Working for another company or companies
2) Self employed
3) Self funded retirement
4) Mandatory retirement
5) Superannuated out on the grounds of invalidity (injury, ill health
etc)
6) Carer pension
7) On holiday / furlough
8) Volunteering my services abroad.
or any miriad of possibilities....

Care to take a punt?

** An honest person would simply say - but you will not.

** You would be the same arsehole no matter where you worked - that
is
true.

But arseholes congregate - so your employment is of interest.


Only to you Phil.

** That is your wrong opinion.

But your claim as of a few days ago was that I do work for that
company, > > > > which is incorrect.


** Far as I know you still do - as you will not say who you
work
for now.


You must be a bit slow on the uptake Phil. You haven't telephoned Telstra
to confirm that I don't work for then yet?

** No such info is available over the phone.

Who I may or may not be working for is my business and the business of
my> employer.


** You were proud to show it off when it was Telsta - what is the
problem now ??

"Telsta" - which company is this?

** How autistic.

Working as a shelf packer in Flemmings now - are you ???

Errh, who are Flemmings when they are at home? Never heard of them.
Perhaps we don't have a Flemmings in my home town / state? Enlighten me
Phil. Maybe directions to my nearest Flemmings might help.

** Have a guess.

It's only worth sueing someone if there is anything to get from the
defendant in the settlement. In your case, not much I suspect.

** Shame you have no grounds anyhow.




.......... Phil

 

[Bushy]

Gentleman please!

How about you start your own thread so you can discuss your differences and
leave this thread to those of us interested in "Re: set top boxes for
digital TV"?

Thank you,
Peter

 

[Phil Allison]

"Bushy" <please@reply.to.group> wrote in message
news:betrp0$tai$1@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au...

Gentleman please!

How about you start your own thread so you can discuss your differences
and
leave this thread to those of us interested in "Re: set top boxes for
digital TV"?

Thank you,
Peter

Now Peter, bend over and I'll shove a Hills
Telray TL4 up your bum with the elements fully extended. And they would
have to be to touch the sides, gauging by the amount of bullshit you post
here - you couldn't be talking out of anything other than your arse
according to you.
















** How do you like this sort of garbage being directed at you by one of
Telstra's finest psychos Peter ?????




............... Phil

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Alan Rutlidge" <rutlidge*nO-sPaM*@mail.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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So this is an admission you were wrong about my current employer?


** No - not until you reveal your present one.

Now if I didn't have one to reveal to you, you would have nothing to rant on
about wouldn't you?
QED.

This means you haven't been able to confirm or deny that I am currently
employed by Telstra , right?


** You seem to care a lot more than I do.

Who me? Nah, I think you got that one wrong Phil.

Your past is clear enough and says it all.

What might that be Phil?

You see Phil, you have a particular mind set which makes assumptions
about
all sorts of things to which you have no information to back up your
claims.
Let us just assume (for the purpose of the arguement) that I don't work
for
Telstra which I have told you repeatedly in the past few days and of
course
on previous occassions that I don't.

I could very well be in any of the following situations -
1) Working for another company or companies
2) Self employed
3) Self funded retirement
4) Mandatory retirement
5) Superannuated out on the grounds of invalidity (injury, ill health
etc)
6) Carer pension
7) On holiday / furlough
8) Volunteering my services abroad.
or any miriad of possibilities....

Care to take a punt?



** An honest person would simply say - but you will not.

There are a lot of honest people in the world Phil. But I doubt many of
them are answerable to you. Even if I was to be arrested I would not have
to reveal my employment status or the name of my employer to the police, so
why should I tell you?

** You would be the same arsehole no matter where you worked - that
is
true.

But arseholes congregate - so your employment is of
interest.


Only to you Phil.


** That is your wrong opinion.
So find someone else who is interested and get them to post here.

But your claim as of a few days ago was that I do work for that
company, > > > > which is incorrect.


** Far as I know you still do - as you will not say who you
work
for now.


You must be a bit slow on the uptake Phil. You haven't telephoned
Telstra
to confirm that I don't work for then yet?


** No such info is available over the phone.
Just make a complaint as I suggested. After all you obviously dislike me so

why not go ahead - make my day.... you believe in your own mind I work for
Telstra, so why not put that theory to the test. What have you to lose?

Who I may or may not be working for is my business and the business
of
my> employer.


** You were proud to show it off when it was Telsta - what is the
problem now ??


"Telsta" - which company is this?


** How autistic.

It's a fair enough question. You wrote it not me........

Working as a shelf packer in Flemmings now - are you ???

Errh, who are Flemmings when they are at home? Never heard of them.
Perhaps we don't have a Flemmings in my home town / state? Enlighten me
Phil. Maybe directions to my nearest Flemmings might help.


** Have a guess.

Okay, just to appease you I did a whitepages search in my home state under
business / government for "Flemmings" - no listings. Message returned
after search is as follows :-
Unfortunately there are no listings matching your search criteria. Try
broadening your search by specifying fewer details, or shortening your
entries (eg. "Thomp" instead of "Thompson").
Alternatively, access HELP for additional information.

Satisfied?

It's only worth sueing someone if there is anything to get from the
defendant in the settlement. In your case, not much I suspect.




** Shame you have no grounds anyhow.




.......... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

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So this is an admission you were wrong about my current employer?


** No - not until you reveal your present one.

Now if I didn't have one to reveal to you, you would have nothing to rant
on
about wouldn't you?

** If wishes where horses then beggers would ride.

This means you haven't been able to confirm or deny that I am
currently
employed by Telstra , right?


** You seem to care a lot more than I do.

Who me? Nah, I think you got that one wrong Phil.

Your past is clear enough and says it all.

What might that be Phil?

** Telstra emloyed the unemployable elsewhere - the most inept of the
inept - and then CHOSE the most autistic of whoever applied so they would
fit in with the existing staff.

That explains you.

Care to take a punt?



** An honest person would simply say - but you will not.

There are a lot of honest people in the world Phil. But I doubt many of
them are answerable to you. Even if I was to be arrested I would not have
to reveal my employment status or the name of my employer to the police,
so
why should I tell you?

** So you know the rules when you get arrested then ??

Been arrested a few times then have you - Alan ??

Never say where you work - the pigs might arrive there and spill
the beans.

How embarassment.

** That is your wrong opinion.

So find someone else who is interested and get them to post here.

** I may post a request for just that.

But your claim as of a few days ago was that I do work for
that
company, > > > > which is incorrect.


** Far as I know you still do - as you will not say who you
work > > > for now.


You must be a bit slow on the uptake Phil. You haven't telephoned
Telstra > > to confirm that I don't work for then yet?


** No such info is available over the phone.

Just make a complaint as I suggested.

** Complain that Alan Rutlidge is an arsehole to Telstra ?

They would fall about laughing.

** You were proud to show it off when it was Telsta - what is
the
problem now ??


"Telsta" - which company is this?


** How autistic.

It's a fair enough question.

** How massively autistic.

Working as a shelf packer in Flemmings now - are you ???

Errh, who are Flemmings when they are at home? Never heard of them.
Perhaps we don't have a Flemmings in my home town / state? Enlighten
me
Phil. Maybe directions to my nearest Flemmings might help.


** Have a guess.


Okay, just to appease you I did a whitepages search in my home state under
business / government for "Flemmings" - no listings. Message returned
after search is as follows :-
Unfortunately there are no listings matching your search criteria. Try
broadening your search by specifying fewer details, or shortening your
entries (eg. "Thomp" instead of "Thompson").
Alternatively, access HELP for additional information.

Satisfied?

** That was not a guess.

Shelf packing is not so strange an occupation for fuckwits.




............. Phil

 

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So this is an admission you were wrong about my current
employer?


** No - not until you reveal your present one.

Now if I didn't have one to reveal to you, you would have nothing to
rant
on
about wouldn't you?


** If wishes where horses then beggers would ride.



This means you haven't been able to confirm or deny that I am
currently
employed by Telstra , right?


** You seem to care a lot more than I do.

Who me? Nah, I think you got that one wrong Phil.

Your past is clear enough and says it all.

What might that be Phil?


** Telstra emloyed the unemployable elsewhere - the most inept of
the
inept - and then CHOSE the most autistic of whoever applied so they would
fit in with the existing staff.

That explains you.

"emloyed" Phil's new world dictionary..... need I say anymore?

** An honest person would simply say - but you will not.

There are a lot of honest people in the world Phil. But I doubt many
of
them are answerable to you. Even if I was to be arrested I would not
have
to reveal my employment status or the name of my employer to the police,
so
why should I tell you?


** So you know the rules when you get arrested then ??

This is basic high school study material. Did you skip high school and
graduate directly from the school of fools Phil?

Been arrested a few times then have you - Alan ??

Never say where you work - the pigs might arrive there and
spill
the beans.

How embarassment.

Which pigs are these Phil? The ones with wings?

** That is your wrong opinion.

So find someone else who is interested and get them to post here.


** I may post a request for just that.

Go ahead, make my day.

But your claim as of a few days ago was that I do work for
that
company, > > > > which is incorrect.


** Far as I know you still do - as you will not say who
you
work > > > for now.


You must be a bit slow on the uptake Phil. You haven't telephoned
Telstra > > to confirm that I don't work for then yet?


** No such info is available over the phone.

Just make a complaint as I suggested.



** Complain that Alan Rutlidge is an arsehole to Telstra ?

They would fall about laughing.

Well, I doubt anyone whould take anything you say seriously Phil.

** You were proud to show it off when it was Telsta - what is
the
problem now ??


"Telsta" - which company is this?


** How autistic.

It's a fair enough question.


** How massively autistic.

You seem to be obsessed with this autism thing Phil. Care to share it with
the group?

Working as a shelf packer in Flemmings now - are you
???

Errh, who are Flemmings when they are at home? Never heard of them.
Perhaps we don't have a Flemmings in my home town / state?
Enlighten
me
Phil. Maybe directions to my nearest Flemmings might help.


** Have a guess.


Okay, just to appease you I did a whitepages search in my home state
under
business / government for "Flemmings" - no listings. Message returned
after search is as follows :-
Unfortunately there are no listings matching your search criteria. Try
broadening your search by specifying fewer details, or shortening your
entries (eg. "Thomp" instead of "Thompson").
Alternatively, access HELP for additional information.

Satisfied?



** That was not a guess.

Shelf packing is not so strange an occupation for fuckwits.

I guess you would have to take that one up with people who stack shelves for
a living. Can't help you out with that one Phil. The only shelves I stack
are those in my own kitchen, my own fridge and the bookshelf in my library
now and then.... However someone has to stack shelves and I appreciate
their efforts when I go to the supermarket. Perhaps it is your opinion that
it's an occupation for fuckwits, but I would go so far as to suggest that
all those young people who are doing just that part time whilst studying for
their uni / TAFE qualifications might beg to differ. Likewise their
parents.

............ Phil

 

[Andy]

<snip all the shite and get down to business>

Who do you work for Phil?....You have given other people such a hard
time about where/who they worked for...let's see some statistics about
yourself...who do you work for or what do you do to make a living?.

The questions are simple...please provide a simple answer. (BTW I am
self-employed, married, with four children - two of which have
cerebral palsy and one of those is autistic as well...I really resent
your constant remarks about autism). Come up with answers to my
questions or shut your mouth. I bet you don't give a straight answer -
loser.

Andy