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Maybe a "brown-out" on the power line?I only two of them in my house.One in my kitchen and the other one in my
bathroom, I never turn them off.Just now I was in my kitchen getting me
a ''cold one''.That flourscent light bulb blipped a couple of times.What
does that suppose to mean?
cuhulin
Back in 2003 I saw a 13 watt Osram CFL end its life in bursts ofcuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23607-49341868-2718@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
I only two of them in my house.One in my kitchen and the other one in my
bathroom, I never turn them off.Just now I was in my kitchen getting me
a ''cold one''.That flourscent light bulb blipped a couple of times.What
does that suppose to mean?
cuhulin
Maybe a "brown-out" on the power line?
The one I leave on 24/7 usually conspires to fail when I'm out. Common
failure modes are the tube or the mains in reservoir electrolytic, typically
they start flickering or just go "phutt".
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:53:16 -0000, "ian field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>wrote:
cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I only two of them in my house.One in my kitchen and the other one in my
bathroom, I never turn them off.Just now I was in my kitchen getting me
a ''cold one''.That flourscent light bulb blipped a couple of times.What
does that suppose to mean?
cuhulin
Maybe a "brown-out" on the power line?
The one I leave on 24/7 usually conspires to fail when I'm out. Common
failure modes are the tube or the mains in reservoir electrolytic,
typically
they start flickering or just go "phutt".
Back in 2003 I saw a 13 watt Osram CFL end its life in bursts of
sparks and smoke through a hole melted in the side of the ballast
container. I called Sylvania/Osram and they offered a replacement free
of charge. I told them no thanks I prefer to not have my home burn
down if another one of these failed while I wasn't present to
disconnect its power source. That scared me away from CFLs for a long
time.
The only one I ever saw do that was one I'd fitted bigger transistors in anOn Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:53:16 -0000, "ian field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>wrote:
cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I only two of them in my house.One in my kitchen and the other one in my
bathroom, I never turn them off.Just now I was in my kitchen getting me
a ''cold one''.That flourscent light bulb blipped a couple of times.What
does that suppose to mean?
cuhulin
Maybe a "brown-out" on the power line?
The one I leave on 24/7 usually conspires to fail when I'm out. Common
failure modes are the tube or the mains in reservoir electrolytic,
typically
they start flickering or just go "phutt".
Back in 2003 I saw a 13 watt Osram CFL end its life in bursts of
sparks and smoke through a hole melted in the side of the ballast
container. I called Sylvania/Osram and they offered a replacement free
of charge. I told them no thanks I prefer to not have my home burn
down if another one of these failed while I wasn't present to
disconnect its power source. That scared me away from CFLs for a long
time.
Thing is the quality has improved dramatically over the past 6 years.I agree. Same here. I saw the big sparks and smoke. I changed back to
incandescence. I would not use it even it is free.
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:53:16 -0000, "ian field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>wrote:
cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23607-49341868-2718@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
I only two of them in my house.One in my kitchen and the other one in my
bathroom, I never turn them off.Just now I was in my kitchen getting me
a ''cold one''.That flourscent light bulb blipped a couple of times.What
does that suppose to mean?
cuhulin
Maybe a "brown-out" on the power line?
The one I leave on 24/7 usually conspires to fail when I'm out. Common
failure modes are the tube or the mains in reservoir electrolytic,
typically
they start flickering or just go "phutt".
Back in 2003 I saw a 13 watt Osram CFL end its life in bursts of
sparks and smoke through a hole melted in the side of the ballast
container. I called Sylvania/Osram and they offered a replacement free
of charge. I told them no thanks I prefer to not have my home burn
down if another one of these failed while I wasn't present to
disconnect its power source. That scared me away from CFLs for a long
time.
I used to love to experiment like that."Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
news:2cu05k.6fu.17.14@news.alt.net...
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:53:16 -0000, "ian field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>wrote:
cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23607-49341868-2718@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
I only two of them in my house.One in my kitchen and the other one in my
bathroom, I never turn them off.Just now I was in my kitchen getting me
a ''cold one''.That flourscent light bulb blipped a couple of times.What
does that suppose to mean?
cuhulin
Maybe a "brown-out" on the power line?
The one I leave on 24/7 usually conspires to fail when I'm out. Common
failure modes are the tube or the mains in reservoir electrolytic,
typically
they start flickering or just go "phutt".
Back in 2003 I saw a 13 watt Osram CFL end its life in bursts of
sparks and smoke through a hole melted in the side of the ballast
container. I called Sylvania/Osram and they offered a replacement free
of charge. I told them no thanks I prefer to not have my home burn
down if another one of these failed while I wasn't present to
disconnect its power source. That scared me away from CFLs for a long
time.
The only one I ever saw do that was one I'd fitted bigger transistors in an
attempt to use it as an electronic ballast in a 6' strip light - it even
worked for a few days before blowing up.
MOSFETs work better but you have to increase the turns on the feedbackOn Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:56:38 -0000, "ian field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>wrote:
"Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:53:16 -0000, "ian field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>wrote:
cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23607-49341868-2718@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
I only two of them in my house.One in my kitchen and the other one in
my
bathroom, I never turn them off.Just now I was in my kitchen getting
me
a ''cold one''.That flourscent light bulb blipped a couple of
times.What
does that suppose to mean?
cuhulin
Maybe a "brown-out" on the power line?
The one I leave on 24/7 usually conspires to fail when I'm out. Common
failure modes are the tube or the mains in reservoir electrolytic,
typically
they start flickering or just go "phutt".
Back in 2003 I saw a 13 watt Osram CFL end its life in bursts of
sparks and smoke through a hole melted in the side of the ballast
container. I called Sylvania/Osram and they offered a replacement free
of charge. I told them no thanks I prefer to not have my home burn
down if another one of these failed while I wasn't present to
disconnect its power source. That scared me away from CFLs for a long
time.
The only one I ever saw do that was one I'd fitted bigger transistors in
an
attempt to use it as an electronic ballast in a 6' strip light - it even
worked for a few days before blowing up.
I used to love to experiment like that.
I've had one outside for a couple years now. It's only semi-protectedOn Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:41:06 -0700, "learner"
learner@example.invalid>wrote:
I agree. Same here. I saw the big sparks and smoke. I changed back to
incandescence. I would not use it even it is free.
Thing is the quality has improved dramatically over the past 6 years.
Especially with the push to outlaw incandescent.
However I still wont leave these on while unattended unless they are
outside as my security lighting consists of the latest 23 watt slim
socket design lamps branded Sylvania CF23EL/MINITWIST.
These tested pretty robust surviving outdoors completely enclosed
in a globe as porch lights and in a security light fixture designed
for incandescent floods out in the rain and now snow. That fixture is
a motion detector but it was frequently placed in the manual on mode
as I was having some minor problems with juveniles trespassing and
wanting to use our trampoline.
"Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:53:16 -0000, "ian field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>wrote:
cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23607-49341868-2718@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
I only two of them in my house.One in my kitchen and the other one in my
bathroom, I never turn them off.Just now I was in my kitchen getting me
a ''cold one''.That flourscent light bulb blipped a couple of times.What
does that suppose to mean?
cuhulin
Maybe a "brown-out" on the power line?
The one I leave on 24/7 usually conspires to fail when I'm out. Common
failure modes are the tube or the mains in reservoir electrolytic,
typically
they start flickering or just go "phutt".
Back in 2003 I saw a 13 watt Osram CFL end its life in bursts of
sparks and smoke through a hole melted in the side of the ballast
container. I called Sylvania/Osram and they offered a replacement free
of charge. I told them no thanks I prefer to not have my home burn
down if another one of these failed while I wasn't present to
disconnect its power source. That scared me away from CFLs for a long
time.
If the lamp is secure in the socker and no serious brownouts, suspectcuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23607-49341868-2718@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
I only two of them in my house.One in my kitchen and the other one in my
bathroom, I never turn them off.Just now I was in my kitchen getting me
a ''cold one''.That flourscent light bulb blipped a couple of times.What
does that suppose to mean?
cuhulin
Maybe a "brown-out" on the power line?
The one I leave on 24/7 usually conspires to fail when I'm out. Common
failure modes are the tube or the mains in reservoir electrolytic, typically
they start flickering or just go "phutt".
Some times it just "feels so good" to let the smoke out.On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:56:38 -0000, "ian field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>wrote:
"Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:53:16 -0000, "ian field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>wrote:
cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23607-49341868-2718@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
I only two of them in my house.One in my kitchen and the other one in my
bathroom, I never turn them off.Just now I was in my kitchen getting me
a ''cold one''.That flourscent light bulb blipped a couple of times.What
does that suppose to mean?
cuhulin
Maybe a "brown-out" on the power line?
The one I leave on 24/7 usually conspires to fail when I'm out. Common
failure modes are the tube or the mains in reservoir electrolytic,
typically
they start flickering or just go "phutt".
Back in 2003 I saw a 13 watt Osram CFL end its life in bursts of
sparks and smoke through a hole melted in the side of the ballast
container. I called Sylvania/Osram and they offered a replacement free
of charge. I told them no thanks I prefer to not have my home burn
down if another one of these failed while I wasn't present to
disconnect its power source. That scared me away from CFLs for a long
time.
The only one I ever saw do that was one I'd fitted bigger transistors in an
attempt to use it as an electronic ballast in a 6' strip light - it even
worked for a few days before blowing up.
I used to love to experiment like that.
I was trying to think of how to make that joke, but you beat me to it.I think I'll stick to beds, the couch, the floor, hot tubs, etc.
I converted an inspection lamp that uses an 8 watt 11" T5 tube with a"ian field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:
"Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote:
Back in 2003 I saw a 13 watt Osram CFL end its life in bursts of
sparks and smoke through a hole melted in the side of the ballast
container. I called Sylvania/Osram and they offered a replacement free
of charge. I told them no thanks I prefer to not have my home burn
down if another one of these failed while I wasn't present to
disconnect its power source. That scared me away from CFLs for a long
time.
The only one I ever saw do that was one I'd fitted bigger transistors in an
attempt to use it as an electronic ballast in a 6' strip light - it even
worked for a few days before blowing up.
I used to love to experiment like that.
lolI think I'll stick to beds, the couch, the floor, hot tubs, etc.
I have a standard home Shop Light fixture that I shorted the ballastMeat Plow wrote:
"ian field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:
"Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote:
Back in 2003 I saw a 13 watt Osram CFL end its life in bursts of
sparks and smoke through a hole melted in the side of the ballast
container. I called Sylvania/Osram and they offered a replacement free
of charge. I told them no thanks I prefer to not have my home burn
down if another one of these failed while I wasn't present to
disconnect its power source. That scared me away from CFLs for a long
time.
The only one I ever saw do that was one I'd fitted bigger transistors in an
attempt to use it as an electronic ballast in a 6' strip light - it even
worked for a few days before blowing up.
I used to love to experiment like that.
I converted an inspection lamp that uses an 8 watt 11" T5 tube with a
resistive ballast in the cord to electronic ballast using a new 9 watt
'off brand' CFL board. Works a treat and has seen a lot of use over the
last three years. Fitting it in required some very creative board
trimming and taking the resevoir cap and series cap between the
filaments off board.
The left over brand new CFL tube went into a good brand CFL that had
become seriously blackened at the ends and gave me a couple of years
more life from that.
Yeah the 23 watt Mini Twists I put out this summer have survived outI've had one outside for a couple years now. It's only semi-protected
from direct rain, but not enclosed. Temperatures from 0F to 100F over
the seasons. Controlled by a timer, on about 6 hours a day.
lamps we wont be able to buy themI agree. Same here. I saw the big sparks and smoke. I changed back to
incandescence. I would not use it even it is free.
"Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:53:16 -0000, "ian field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>wrote:
cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23607-49341868-2718@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
I only two of them in my house.One in my kitchen and the other one
in my
bathroom, I never turn them off.Just now I was in my kitchen getting me
a ''cold one''.That flourscent light bulb blipped a couple of
times.What
does that suppose to mean?
cuhulin
Maybe a "brown-out" on the power line?
The one I leave on 24/7 usually conspires to fail when I'm out. Common
failure modes are the tube or the mains in reservoir electrolytic,
typically
they start flickering or just go "phutt".
Back in 2003 I saw a 13 watt Osram CFL end its life in bursts of
sparks and smoke through a hole melted in the side of the ballast
container. I called Sylvania/Osram and they offered a replacement free
of charge. I told them no thanks I prefer to not have my home burn
down if another one of these failed while I wasn't present to
disconnect its power source. That scared me away from CFLs for a long
time.
Your lucky in Australia they are in the process of banning incandescent
They idiot politicians are doing the same in the U.S., but moreYour lucky in Australia they are in the process of banning incandescent
lamps we wont be able to buy them
I have been playing with the circuits for a while and IMHO there is aI only two of them in my house.One in my kitchen and the other one in my
bathroom, I never turn them off.Just now I was in my kitchen getting me
a ''cold one''.That flourscent light bulb blipped a couple of times.What
does that suppose to mean?