Sansui G-9700

C

Cranston Allen

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I don't have any expertise at repairing vintage audio, before I send
this receiver out I thought I might ask the people on this poard if
this problem might be a simple enough for a novice to repair. The unit
powers up and all lights work, the power meters are stationary,and no
sound, the tuner seem to receive a strong signal and the protection
light blinks. Any suggestion will be helpful.
 
You could look for any blown fuses - otherwise probably better to get it to
a shop.

Mark Z.

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"Cranston Allen" <Cranston_Allen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I don't have any expertise at repairing vintage audio, before I send
this receiver out I thought I might ask the people on this poard if
this problem might be a simple enough for a novice to repair. The unit
powers up and all lights work, the power meters are stationary,and no
sound, the tuner seem to receive a strong signal and the protection
light blinks. Any suggestion will be helpful.
Click to expand...
 
"Cranston Allen" <Cranston_Allen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44b8283e.0403281433.5298890e@posting.google.com...
I don't have any expertise at repairing vintage audio, before I send
this receiver out I thought I might ask the people on this poard if
this problem might be a simple enough for a novice to repair. The unit
powers up and all lights work, the power meters are stationary,and no
sound, the tuner seem to receive a strong signal and the protection
light blinks. Any suggestion will be helpful.
Click to expand...
Output transistor shorted. Shop repair and expect about 80 + dollar repair
bill.
 
Probably almost twice that in my shop - and no, we're not a rip-off joint.

Mark Z.

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"jtech" <toomuch@spam.net> wrote in message
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"Cranston Allen" <Cranston_Allen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I don't have any expertise at repairing vintage audio, before I send
this receiver out I thought I might ask the people on this poard if
this problem might be a simple enough for a novice to repair. The unit
powers up and all lights work, the power meters are stationary,and no
sound, the tuner seem to receive a strong signal and the protection
light blinks. Any suggestion will be helpful.

Output transistor shorted. Shop repair and expect about 80 + dollar
repair
bill.
Click to expand...
 
Well, of course, the extra money is for the chiropractor visit you'll need after wrestling the
beast on & off the bench.
I don't just work on the occassional G9700. I own one. Gotta love them big old Sansui units.

--
Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer
Talking Dog Transducer Company
http://stephensank.com
5517 Carmelita Drive N.E.
Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111]
505-332-0336
Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer
Payments preferred through Paypal.com
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
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Probably almost twice that in my shop - and no, we're not a rip-off joint.

Mark Z.

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"jtech" <toomuch@spam.net> wrote in message
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"Cranston Allen" <Cranston_Allen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I don't have any expertise at repairing vintage audio, before I send
this receiver out I thought I might ask the people on this poard if
this problem might be a simple enough for a novice to repair. The unit
powers up and all lights work, the power meters are stationary,and no
sound, the tuner seem to receive a strong signal and the protection
light blinks. Any suggestion will be helpful.

Output transistor shorted. Shop repair and expect about 80 + dollar
repair
bill.
Click to expand...
 
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message news:<c4bkqo$2d9qvm$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Probably almost twice that in my shop - and no, we're not a rip-off joint.

Mark Z.

--
Click to expand...
How can you say you would charge twice as much as a competitor,
and then suggest you are not a rip-off joint.
No wonder you have so much spare time on your hands.
(read,no customers!)

Mo.

"jtech" <toomuch@spam.net> wrote in message
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"Cranston Allen" <Cranston_Allen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44b8283e.0403281433.5298890e@posting.google.com...
I don't have any expertise at repairing vintage audio, before I send
this receiver out I thought I might ask the people on this poard if
this problem might be a simple enough for a novice to repair. The unit
powers up and all lights work, the power meters are stationary,and no
sound, the tuner seem to receive a strong signal and the protection
light blinks. Any suggestion will be helpful.

Output transistor shorted. Shop repair and expect about 80 + dollar
repair
bill.
Click to expand...
 
It is also just as likely that the guy charging half as much is the rip-off.
More likely in my experience. I've had to go behind that guy and fix or
scrap units that he didn't fix properly many times.

Mo is working on a killfile status.

Leonard

"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:c4ec3d$2h2mp8$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de...
Totally unknowledgeable. You know nothing of either poster. The type of
work
we do, whether one works out of a garage, the geographic area, typical
builing rents, many, many other factors.

I've seen others put you in your place on these groups as recently as this
morning, in some posts about Jerry G.

Don't get me started.

Mark Z.

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"mo" <moeee@telpacific.com.au> wrote in message
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"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:<c4bkqo$2d9qvm$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Probably almost twice that in my shop - and no, we're not a rip-off
joint.

Mark Z.

--

How can you say you would charge twice as much as a competitor,
and then suggest you are not a rip-off joint.
No wonder you have so much spare time on your hands.
(read,no customers!)

Mo.


"jtech" <toomuch@spam.net> wrote in message
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"Cranston Allen" <Cranston_Allen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44b8283e.0403281433.5298890e@posting.google.com...
I don't have any expertise at repairing vintage audio, before I
send
this receiver out I thought I might ask the people on this poard
if
this problem might be a simple enough for a novice to repair. The
unit
powers up and all lights work, the power meters are stationary,and
no
sound, the tuner seem to receive a strong signal and the
protection
light blinks. Any suggestion will be helpful.

Output transistor shorted. Shop repair and expect about 80 + dollar
repair
bill.
Click to expand...
 
Totally unknowledgeable. You know nothing of either poster. The type of work
we do, whether one works out of a garage, the geographic area, typical
builing rents, many, many other factors.

I've seen others put you in your place on these groups as recently as this
morning, in some posts about Jerry G.

Don't get me started.

Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"mo" <moeee@telpacific.com.au> wrote in message
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"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:<c4bkqo$2d9qvm$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Probably almost twice that in my shop - and no, we're not a rip-off
joint.

Mark Z.

--

How can you say you would charge twice as much as a competitor,
and then suggest you are not a rip-off joint.
No wonder you have so much spare time on your hands.
(read,no customers!)

Mo.


"jtech" <toomuch@spam.net> wrote in message
news:m9%9c.7610$ol3.1122@fe03.usenetserver.com...

"Cranston Allen" <Cranston_Allen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44b8283e.0403281433.5298890e@posting.google.com...
I don't have any expertise at repairing vintage audio, before I send
this receiver out I thought I might ask the people on this poard if
this problem might be a simple enough for a novice to repair. The
unit
powers up and all lights work, the power meters are stationary,and
no
sound, the tuner seem to receive a strong signal and the protection
light blinks. Any suggestion will be helpful.

Output transistor shorted. Shop repair and expect about 80 + dollar
repair
bill.
Click to expand...
 
Leonard,

I was thinking. Just as a fer instance:

If any on the group would care to speculate approximately what THEY might
charge to fix a blown channel on a G-9700, it might be interesting.

I don't actually remember if there were 2 output transistors or 4, but that
can be factored into the "estimates".

My work load has not suffered from any supposed "overcharging", I can tell
you that. People are grateful to even find a shop open and still in business
these days.


Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com> wrote in message
news:XOyac.6608$pM1.6329@lakeread06...
It is also just as likely that the guy charging half as much is the
rip-off.
More likely in my experience. I've had to go behind that guy and fix or
scrap units that he didn't fix properly many times.

Mo is working on a killfile status.

Leonard

"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:c4ec3d$2h2mp8$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de...
Totally unknowledgeable. You know nothing of either poster. The type of
work
we do, whether one works out of a garage, the geographic area, typical
builing rents, many, many other factors.

I've seen others put you in your place on these groups as recently as
this
morning, in some posts about Jerry G.

Don't get me started.

Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"mo" <moeee@telpacific.com.au> wrote in message
news:c1476f84.0403302044.5ff4c3c5@posting.google.com...
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:<c4bkqo$2d9qvm$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Probably almost twice that in my shop - and no, we're not a rip-off
joint.

Mark Z.

--

How can you say you would charge twice as much as a competitor,
and then suggest you are not a rip-off joint.
No wonder you have so much spare time on your hands.
(read,no customers!)

Mo.


"jtech" <toomuch@spam.net> wrote in message
news:m9%9c.7610$ol3.1122@fe03.usenetserver.com...

"Cranston Allen" <Cranston_Allen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44b8283e.0403281433.5298890e@posting.google.com...
I don't have any expertise at repairing vintage audio, before I
send
this receiver out I thought I might ask the people on this poard
if
this problem might be a simple enough for a novice to repair.
The
unit
powers up and all lights work, the power meters are
stationary,and
no
sound, the tuner seem to receive a strong signal and the
protection
light blinks. Any suggestion will be helpful.

Output transistor shorted. Shop repair and expect about 80 +
dollar
repair
bill.
Click to expand...
 
Our typical charges would be $80-120 labor plus parts
for an output stage repair.

Leonard

"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:c4edt7$2huc26$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de...
Leonard,

I was thinking. Just as a fer instance:

If any on the group would care to speculate approximately what THEY might
charge to fix a blown channel on a G-9700, it might be interesting.

I don't actually remember if there were 2 output transistors or 4, but
that
can be factored into the "estimates".

My work load has not suffered from any supposed "overcharging", I can tell
you that. People are grateful to even find a shop open and still in
business
these days.


Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com> wrote in message
news:XOyac.6608$pM1.6329@lakeread06...
It is also just as likely that the guy charging half as much is the
rip-off.
More likely in my experience. I've had to go behind that guy and fix or
scrap units that he didn't fix properly many times.

Mo is working on a killfile status.

Leonard

"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:c4ec3d$2h2mp8$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de...
Totally unknowledgeable. You know nothing of either poster. The type
of
work
we do, whether one works out of a garage, the geographic area, typical
builing rents, many, many other factors.

I've seen others put you in your place on these groups as recently as
this
morning, in some posts about Jerry G.

Don't get me started.

Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and
spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"mo" <moeee@telpacific.com.au> wrote in message
news:c1476f84.0403302044.5ff4c3c5@posting.google.com...
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:<c4bkqo$2d9qvm$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Probably almost twice that in my shop - and no, we're not a
rip-off
joint.

Mark Z.

--

How can you say you would charge twice as much as a competitor,
and then suggest you are not a rip-off joint.
No wonder you have so much spare time on your hands.
(read,no customers!)

Mo.


"jtech" <toomuch@spam.net> wrote in message
news:m9%9c.7610$ol3.1122@fe03.usenetserver.com...

"Cranston Allen" <Cranston_Allen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44b8283e.0403281433.5298890e@posting.google.com...
I don't have any expertise at repairing vintage audio, before
I
send
this receiver out I thought I might ask the people on this
poard
if
this problem might be a simple enough for a novice to repair.
The
unit
powers up and all lights work, the power meters are
stationary,and
no
sound, the tuner seem to receive a strong signal and the
protection
light blinks. Any suggestion will be helpful.

Output transistor shorted. Shop repair and expect about 80 +
dollar
repair
bill.
Click to expand...
 
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message news:<c4edt7$2huc26$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Leonard,

I was thinking. Just as a fer instance:

If any on the group would care to speculate approximately what THEY might
charge to fix a blown channel on a G-9700, it might be interesting.

I don't actually remember if there were 2 output transistors or 4, but that
can be factored into the "estimates".

My work load has not suffered from any supposed "overcharging", I can tell
you that. People are grateful to even find a shop open and still in business
these days.


Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com> wrote in message
news:XOyac.6608$pM1.6329@lakeread06...
It is also just as likely that the guy charging half as much is the
rip-off.
More likely in my experience. I've had to go behind that guy and fix or
scrap units that he didn't fix properly many times.

Mo is working on a killfile status.

Leonard

"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:c4ec3d$2h2mp8$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de...
Totally unknowledgeable. You know nothing of either poster. The type of
work
we do, whether one works out of a garage, the geographic area, typical
builing rents, many, many other factors.

I've seen others put you in your place on these groups as recently as
this
morning, in some posts about Jerry G.

Don't get me started.

Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"mo" <moeee@telpacific.com.au> wrote in message
news:c1476f84.0403302044.5ff4c3c5@posting.google.com...
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:<c4bkqo$2d9qvm$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Probably almost twice that in my shop - and no, we're not a rip-off
joint.

Mark Z.

--

How can you say you would charge twice as much as a competitor,
and then suggest you are not a rip-off joint.
No wonder you have so much spare time on your hands.
(read,no customers!)

Mo.


--------
Click to expand...

I charge $40/hour for a maximum of 2 hours
Plus the price of the replacement parts

If you can't fix it within 2 hours,you
shouldn't be penalizing your client for
your lack of ability on that particular item.

No I don't live in a double story house,
and I don't own a boat or a brand new car,
but I'm sure I'll be at the front half of
the queue when the limited number of
pearly gate tickets are handed out.

- Mo -
 
Certain repairs take more than two hours no matter who you are. I'm getting
a little tired of your insinuations regarding my ability and or honesty.
You're a newbie on this group. Act like one and show a little respect.

Mark Z.

--
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have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"mo" <moeee@telpacific.com.au> wrote in message
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"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:<c4edt7$2huc26$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Leonard,

I was thinking. Just as a fer instance:

If any on the group would care to speculate approximately what THEY
might
charge to fix a blown channel on a G-9700, it might be interesting.

I don't actually remember if there were 2 output transistors or 4, but
that
can be factored into the "estimates".

My work load has not suffered from any supposed "overcharging", I can
tell
you that. People are grateful to even find a shop open and still in
business
these days.


Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com> wrote in message
news:XOyac.6608$pM1.6329@lakeread06...
It is also just as likely that the guy charging half as much is the
rip-off.
More likely in my experience. I've had to go behind that guy and fix
or
scrap units that he didn't fix properly many times.

Mo is working on a killfile status.

Leonard

"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:c4ec3d$2h2mp8$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de...
Totally unknowledgeable. You know nothing of either poster. The type
of
work
we do, whether one works out of a garage, the geographic area,
typical
builing rents, many, many other factors.

I've seen others put you in your place on these groups as recently
as
this
morning, in some posts about Jerry G.

Don't get me started.

Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and
spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"mo" <moeee@telpacific.com.au> wrote in message
news:c1476f84.0403302044.5ff4c3c5@posting.google.com...
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:<c4bkqo$2d9qvm$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Probably almost twice that in my shop - and no, we're not a
rip-off
joint.

Mark Z.

--

How can you say you would charge twice as much as a competitor,
and then suggest you are not a rip-off joint.
No wonder you have so much spare time on your hands.
(read,no customers!)

Mo.


--------

I charge $40/hour for a maximum of 2 hours
Plus the price of the replacement parts

If you can't fix it within 2 hours,you
shouldn't be penalizing your client for
your lack of ability on that particular item.

No I don't live in a double story house,
and I don't own a boat or a brand new car,
but I'm sure I'll be at the front half of
the queue when the limited number of
pearly gate tickets are handed out.

- Mo -
Click to expand...
 
I love mine, but would appreciate any comments on the switches and how
to clean them. Mine are very tetchy.
In message <c4dfii$ikt$1@reader2.nmix.net>, Stephen Sank
<bk11@thuntek.net> writes
Well, of course, the extra money is for the chiropractor visit you'll
need after wrestling the
beast on & off the bench.
I don't just work on the occassional G9700. I own one. Gotta love
them big old Sansui units.

--
Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer
Talking Dog Transducer Company
http://stephensank.com
5517 Carmelita Drive N.E.
Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111]
505-332-0336
Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer
Payments preferred through Paypal.com
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:c4bkqo$2d9qvm$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de...
Probably almost twice that in my shop - and no, we're not a rip-off joint.

Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"jtech" <toomuch@spam.net> wrote in message
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"Cranston Allen" <Cranston_Allen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44b8283e.0403281433.5298890e@posting.google.com...
I don't have any expertise at repairing vintage audio, before I send
this receiver out I thought I might ask the people on this poard if
this problem might be a simple enough for a novice to repair. The unit
powers up and all lights work, the power meters are stationary,and no
sound, the tuner seem to receive a strong signal and the protection
light blinks. Any suggestion will be helpful.

Output transistor shorted. Shop repair and expect about 80 + dollar
repair
bill.
Click to expand...
--
Ken Ashcroft
 
Then of course there is the other maintenance to make it right before it
leaves the door.

Check / align the bias on the OTHER channel, clean the controls, including
that NOTORIOUS balance control, checking FM performance if only to see that
it works nominally and can center the tuning meter, etc.

I've even had people bring back a receiver after an amp repair complaining
about the AM section!

This extra stuff takes TIME, and time is our most expensive commodity.

Additionally, shop warranties have to be accounted for. Whether people like
it or not, the warranty has to figure into the final cost.


Mark Z.

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"jtech" <toomuch@spam.net> wrote in message
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"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:c4g03h$2hi8lm$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de...
Certain repairs take more than two hours no matter who you are. I'm
getting
a little tired of your insinuations regarding my ability and or honesty.
You're a newbie on this group. Act like one and show a little respect.

Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"mo" <moeee@telpacific.com.au> wrote in message
news:c1476f84.0403311416.49239eaf@posting.google.com...
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:<c4edt7$2huc26$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Leonard,

I was thinking. Just as a fer instance:

If any on the group would care to speculate approximately what THEY
might
charge to fix a blown channel on a G-9700, it might be interesting.

I don't actually remember if there were 2 output transistors or 4,
but
that
can be factored into the "estimates".

My work load has not suffered from any supposed "overcharging", I
can
tell
you that. People are grateful to even find a shop open and still in
business
these days.


Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and
spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com> wrote in message
news:XOyac.6608$pM1.6329@lakeread06...
It is also just as likely that the guy charging half as much is
the
rip-off.
More likely in my experience. I've had to go behind that guy and
fix
or
scrap units that he didn't fix properly many times.

Mo is working on a killfile status.

Leonard

"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:c4ec3d$2h2mp8$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de...
Totally unknowledgeable. You know nothing of either poster. The
type
of
work
we do, whether one works out of a garage, the geographic area,
typical
builing rents, many, many other factors.

I've seen others put you in your place on these groups as
recently
as
this
morning, in some posts about Jerry G.

Don't get me started.

Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses
and
spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"mo" <moeee@telpacific.com.au> wrote in message
news:c1476f84.0403302044.5ff4c3c5@posting.google.com...
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:<c4bkqo$2d9qvm$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Probably almost twice that in my shop - and no, we're not a
rip-off
joint.

Mark Z.

--

How can you say you would charge twice as much as a
competitor,
and then suggest you are not a rip-off joint.
No wonder you have so much spare time on your hands.
(read,no customers!)

Mo.


--------

I charge $40/hour for a maximum of 2 hours
Plus the price of the replacement parts

If you can't fix it within 2 hours,you
shouldn't be penalizing your client for
your lack of ability on that particular item.

No I don't live in a double story house,
and I don't own a boat or a brand new car,
but I'm sure I'll be at the front half of
the queue when the limited number of
pearly gate tickets are handed out.

- Mo -


Sorry to cause such an uprising. As I stated at my guestament, was $80 +
,
notice the + in there..
I would say at least 80 + the parts cost, and who knows how many there are
blown. If I remember right, the amp is dc connected and therfore if an
output goes, it may take a handfull of parts to fix it - and more then 2
hours to align bias voltages etc. They are a powerfull amp and a bear to
fix properly. FWIW . James Thompson...
Click to expand...
 
"mo" <moeee@telpacific.com.au> wrote in message
news:c1476f84.0403311416.49239eaf@posting.google.com...
I charge $40/hour for a maximum of 2 hours
Plus the price of the replacement parts

If you can't fix it within 2 hours,you
shouldn't be penalizing your client for
your lack of ability on that particular item.

No I don't live in a double story house,
and I don't own a boat or a brand new car,
but I'm sure I'll be at the front half of
the queue when the limited number of
pearly gate tickets are handed out.

- Mo -
Click to expand...
If you believe that there are no jobs that should take more than two hours
you are either not very experienced or just take on the easy jobs. If it is
the latter then you are the one who is not serving the interest of your
customers. Your holier-than-thou attitude would not last long in my shop,
and I suspect that at the "pearly gates" you may be farther back in the line
than you think.

Leonard
 
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 05:14:33 -0600, "Mark D. Zacharias"
<mzacharias@yis.us> wrote:

Then of course there is the other maintenance to make it right before it
leaves the door.

Check / align the bias on the OTHER channel, clean the controls, including
that NOTORIOUS balance control, checking FM performance if only to see that
it works nominally and can center the tuning meter, etc.

I've even had people bring back a receiver after an amp repair complaining
about the AM section!

This extra stuff takes TIME, and time is our most expensive commodity.

Additionally, shop warranties have to be accounted for. Whether people like
it or not, the warranty has to figure into the final cost.


Mark Z
Click to expand...
Where I worked in the early 80's ( initials BB) we got similar rates
to what Mark is quoting and the dollar is worth less than half of what
it is worth then. Sounds very reasonable to me. Chuck.
 
"Leonard G. Caillouet" <lcaillo_ns_@devoynet.com> wrote in message news:<dODac.2105$ym1.1044@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...
Our typical charges would be $80-120 labor plus parts
for an output stage repair.

Leonard
big snip
Click to expand...

Back in the late '70's I repaired stereo in Madison WI. Shop rate then
was $18.50. At the time I did turntables because I was part time and
the other techs hated turntables. It was a good job for a U student
(about $9/hr for me)

I can't remember the last time any of my stuff needed repairs. My
question is: what is the going hourly rate for high end repairs?

Glenn Gundlach
 
One uses a cleaner / lubricant designed for the purpose, such as Caig
De-Oxit, usually in a small aerosol can with a plastic extender tube. With
the valve on the can set to LOW, one sprays a bit of cleaner into the
control, aimed at the carbon element, if it's a potentiometer, or at the
moving and stationary contacts, if it's a switch. Work the control back and
forth numerous times. Usually we repeat the process.

There's other fine points - such as blowing out the dust etc first, and
packing tissue around the control to catch runoff and prevent a mess. Often
it's necessary to hold the unit at some impossible angle so gravity can help
get the cleaner where it needs to be.
I will often blow out the controls again with a compressor and repeat the
treatment, it's my belief that by so doing I blow out some of the debris
loosened by the cleaning process. This seems to work especially well with
the record/play mode switches in older cassette decks.

Mark Z.

--
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have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"Ken Ashcroft" <ken@g3msw.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:nHnPciCTWraAFwft@g3msw.demon.co.uk...
I love mine, but would appreciate any comments on the switches and how
to clean them. Mine are very tetchy.
In message <c4dfii$ikt$1@reader2.nmix.net>, Stephen Sank
bk11@thuntek.net> writes
Well, of course, the extra money is for the chiropractor visit you'll
need after wrestling the
beast on & off the bench.
I don't just work on the occassional G9700. I own one. Gotta love
them big old Sansui units.

--
Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer
Talking Dog Transducer Company
http://stephensank.com
5517 Carmelita Drive N.E.
Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111]
505-332-0336
Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer
Payments preferred through Paypal.com
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:c4bkqo$2d9qvm$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de...
Probably almost twice that in my shop - and no, we're not a rip-off
joint.

Mark Z.

--
Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and
spam
have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.


"jtech" <toomuch@spam.net> wrote in message
news:m9%9c.7610$ol3.1122@fe03.usenetserver.com...

"Cranston Allen" <Cranston_Allen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44b8283e.0403281433.5298890e@posting.google.com...
I don't have any expertise at repairing vintage audio, before I
send
this receiver out I thought I might ask the people on this poard if
this problem might be a simple enough for a novice to repair. The
unit
powers up and all lights work, the power meters are stationary,and
no
sound, the tuner seem to receive a strong signal and the protection
light blinks. Any suggestion will be helpful.

Output transistor shorted. Shop repair and expect about 80 + dollar
repair
bill.








--
Ken Ashcroft
Click to expand...
 
Thanks, Mark, useful tips. Actually, mine is a 9001, the last of the
Quad Receivers.
In message <c4jf1v$2iq2ao$1@ID-180484.news.uni-berlin.de>, Mark D.
Zacharias <mzacharias@yis.us> writes
One uses a cleaner / lubricant designed for the purpose, such as Caig
De-Oxit, usually in a small aerosol can with a plastic extender tube. With
the valve on the can set to LOW, one sprays a bit of cleaner into the
control, aimed at the carbon element, if it's a potentiometer, or at the
moving and stationary contacts, if it's a switch. Work the control back and
forth numerous times. Usually we repeat the process.

There's other fine points - such as blowing out the dust etc first, and
packing tissue around the control to catch runoff and prevent a mess. Often
it's necessary to hold the unit at some impossible angle so gravity can help
get the cleaner where it needs to be.
I will often blow out the controls again with a compressor and repeat the
treatment, it's my belief that by so doing I blow out some of the debris
loosened by the cleaning process. This seems to work especially well with
the record/play mode switches in older cassette decks.

Mark Z.
Click to expand...
--
Ken Ashcroft
 
"Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:<WZTac.8085$pM1.2338@lakeread06>...
"mo" <moeee@telpacific.com.au> wrote in message
news:c1476f84.0403311416.49239eaf@posting.google.com...
I charge $40/hour for a maximum of 2 hours
Plus the price of the replacement parts

If you can't fix it within 2 hours,you
shouldn't be penalizing your client for
your lack of ability on that particular item.

No I don't live in a double story house,
and I don't own a boat or a brand new car,
but I'm sure I'll be at the front half of
the queue when the limited number of
pearly gate tickets are handed out.

- Mo -

If you believe that there are no jobs that should take more than two hours
you are either not very experienced or just take on the easy jobs. If it is
the latter then you are the one who is not serving the interest of your
customers. Your holier-than-thou attitude would not last long in my shop,
and I suspect that at the "pearly gates" you may be farther back in the line
than you think.

Leonard
Click to expand...

No,I'm not saying that all jobs shouldn't take over 2 hours.
But if they do,give the customer a chance.I think they deserve it
rather than being milked all the time.

Shame business people don't have a conscience.

--- Mo ---
 
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