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I wouldn\'t mind. It\'s just another boring glass box. But the tilt is
invisible, fraction of a degree, hardly the Leaning Tower of Pisa, which
is still standing. Similar problem.
It wouldn\'t shock me if lots of buildings lean more that than MT and
nobody notices. It just gets more hysteria.
On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 6:59:57 PM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:15:53 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:31:22 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:32:20 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:05:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html
The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.
You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.
That piece of junk will fall over before the stresses become too large.
The built no doubt matches the \"quality\" of the design.
The sad part is it\'s not even a really tall building. Losers in CA can\'t
even construct a simple building without messing up.
Handel Architects is a New York firm. The developer was Millennium
Partners, a New York firm.
I wish you incompetent yokels would leave us alone and not jam our
restaurants and beaches and ski towns.
NYC design? Even worse. It took a Chicago firm to design the new trade
center building for NYC. They just don\'t know how to do stack steel and
concrete in a way that it doesn\'t topple over. Sounds like the clowns in
SF couldn\'t even try. The tallest self supporting structures designed in
NYC in the past 40 years are piles of trash bags.
50 stories and 600 feet was impressive, maybe 60 years ago. They could
have photocopied the plans of dozens of building that can suport their
own weight as a starting point, but no, had to fuck that up, starting
at the foundation.
They built it cheap. Concrete instead of steel, friction piles pounded
into mushy bay fill. It can probably be fixed.
An earthquake would be interesting. That fill goo tends to liquify.
https://archinect.imgix.net/uploads/wl/wlcuupbzh2adgoj6.jpg?fit=crop&auto=compress%2Cformat&w=514&dpr=2
Hopefully it falls over soon, I want to see that.
I wouldn\'t mind. It\'s just another boring glass box. But the tilt is
invisible, fraction of a degree, hardly the Leaning Tower of Pisa,
which is still standing. Similar problem.
It wouldn\'t shock me if lots of buildings lean more that than MT and
nobody notices. It just gets more hysteria.
NYC design + CA construction = recipe for total failure.
I suspect the construction was in compliance to the drawings. Nobody
has claimed otherwise.
There\'s nothing wrong with \"CA\" construction. My house (sitting on
bedrock!) is fine.
Actually, downtown San Francisco is beautiful if you don\'t get too
close. 2 miles is about right.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kq008v3v2bhnce/DT1.jpg?raw=1
Hey, we just discovered this, under the Highland Avenue bridge over
the Bernal Cut.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h7m7ibx0iqmgap8/Highland_Mural_1.jpg?raw=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eqrjv6p8l7w5g2q/Highland_Mural_2.jpg?raw=1
--
I yam what I yam - Popeye
That pretty much depends upon what you call beautiful. Steel, glass and concrete doesn\'t fall into that category, but if that is all you know, then it must be.
John Larkin wrote:
I wouldn\'t mind. It\'s just another boring glass box. But the tilt is
invisible, fraction of a degree, hardly the Leaning Tower of Pisa, which
is still standing. Similar problem.
It wouldn\'t shock me if lots of buildings lean more that than MT and
nobody notices. It just gets more hysteria.
But... The other critical data, probably already mentioned, is how QUICKLY
it\'s moving.
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:31:22 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:32:20 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:05:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html
The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.
You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.
That piece of junk will fall over before the stresses become too large.
The built no doubt matches the \"quality\" of the design.
The sad part is it\'s not even a really tall building. Losers in CA can\'t
even construct a simple building without messing up.
Handel Architects is a New York firm. The developer was Millennium
Partners, a New York firm.
I wish you incompetent yokels would leave us alone and not jam our
restaurants and beaches and ski towns.
NYC design? Even worse. It took a Chicago firm to design the new trade
center building for NYC. They just don\'t know how to do stack steel and
concrete in a way that it doesn\'t topple over. Sounds like the clowns in
SF couldn\'t even try. The tallest self supporting structures designed in
NYC in the past 40 years are piles of trash bags.
50 stories and 600 feet was impressive, maybe 60 years ago. They could
have photocopied the plans of dozens of building that can suport their
own weight as a starting point, but no, had to fuck that up, starting
at the foundation.
They built it cheap. Concrete instead of steel, friction piles pounded
into mushy bay fill. It can probably be fixed.
An earthquake would be interesting. That fill goo tends to liquify.
https://archinect.imgix.net/uploads/wl/wlcuupbzh2adgoj6.jpg?fit=crop&auto=compress%2Cformat&w=514&dpr=2
Hopefully it falls over soon, I want to see that.
I wouldn\'t mind. It\'s just another boring glass box. But the tilt is
invisible, fraction of a degree, hardly the Leaning Tower of Pisa,
which is still standing. Similar problem.
It wouldn\'t shock me if lots of buildings lean more that than MT and
nobody notices. It just gets more hysteria.
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 06:30:58 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
alway...@message.header> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
I wouldn\'t mind. It\'s just another boring glass box. But the tilt is
invisible, fraction of a degree, hardly the Leaning Tower of Pisa, which
is still standing. Similar problem.
It wouldn\'t shock me if lots of buildings lean more that than MT and
nobody notices. It just gets more hysteria.
But... The other critical data, probably already mentioned, is how QUICKLY
it\'s moving.
At 2 mm per year rise, sea level will submerge it before it topples
over. Both hazards are hysteria.
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:31:22 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:32:20 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:05:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html
The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.
You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.
That piece of junk will fall over before the stresses become too large.
The built no doubt matches the \"quality\" of the design.
The sad part is it\'s not even a really tall building. Losers in CA can\'t
even construct a simple building without messing up.
Handel Architects is a New York firm. The developer was Millennium
Partners, a New York firm.
I wish you incompetent yokels would leave us alone and not jam our
restaurants and beaches and ski towns.
NYC design? Even worse. It took a Chicago firm to design the new trade
center building for NYC. They just don\'t know how to do stack steel and
concrete in a way that it doesn\'t topple over. Sounds like the clowns in
SF couldn\'t even try. The tallest self supporting structures designed in
NYC in the past 40 years are piles of trash bags.
50 stories and 600 feet was impressive, maybe 60 years ago. They could
have photocopied the plans of dozens of building that can suport their
own weight as a starting point, but no, had to fuck that up, starting
at the foundation.
They built it cheap. Concrete instead of steel, friction piles pounded
into mushy bay fill. It can probably be fixed.
An earthquake would be interesting. That fill goo tends to liquify.
https://archinect.imgix.net/uploads/wl/wlcuupbzh2adgoj6.jpg?fit=crop&auto=compress%2Cformat&w=514&dpr=2
Hopefully it falls over soon, I want to see that.
I wouldn\'t mind. It\'s just another boring glass box. But the tilt is
invisible, fraction of a degree, hardly the Leaning Tower of Pisa,
which is still standing. Similar problem.
It wouldn\'t shock me if lots of buildings lean more that than MT and
nobody notices. It just gets more hysteria.
NYC design + CA construction = recipe for total failure.
I suspect the construction was in compliance to the drawings. Nobody
has claimed otherwise.
There\'s nothing wrong with \"CA\" construction. My house (sitting on
bedrock!) is fine.
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 06:30:58 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
alway...@message.header> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
I wouldn\'t mind. It\'s just another boring glass box. But the tilt is
invisible, fraction of a degree, hardly the Leaning Tower of Pisa, which
is still standing. Similar problem.
It wouldn\'t shock me if lots of buildings lean more that than MT and
nobody notices. It just gets more hysteria.
But... The other critical data, probably already mentioned, is how QUICKLY
it\'s moving.
At 2 mm per year rise, sea level will submerge it before it topples
over. Both hazards are hysteria.
--
If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 10:47:23 AM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 06:30:58 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
alway...@message.header> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
I wouldn\'t mind. It\'s just another boring glass box. But the tilt is
invisible, fraction of a degree, hardly the Leaning Tower of Pisa, which
is still standing. Similar problem.
It wouldn\'t shock me if lots of buildings lean more that than MT and
nobody notices. It just gets more hysteria.
But... The other critical data, probably already mentioned, is how QUICKLY
it\'s moving.
At 2 mm per year rise, sea level will submerge it before it topples
over. Both hazards are hysteria.
--
If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
Kinda like modern art. If you want to see something REALLY beautiful check out this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/a_semenov/