Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus

Jim Thompson wrote:
I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What's the recommended replacement?

Paul Urbanus wrote:
I use ESET NOD32. Recommended by the IT guy
from a friends small (20 person) software company.[...]
www.eset.com
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It is also recommended by a guy whose opinion I value in these
matters.
In fact, they have become a sponsor of his
--and he is VERY discriminating about the sponsors he accepts
(though he recommended NOD32 before that financial link existed).
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:8MyGkWTD9MoJ:techguylabs.com/radio/ShowNotes/Show494+Leo.Laporte+ESET+NOD-32+site:TechGuyLabs.com
 
Eeyore wrote:
Sjouke Burry wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.

What's the recommended replacement?

About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.

You mean you didn't learn the first time ?

You may need to explain about that to Jim. He seems like a bit of
innocent in these matters.

Graham


Twas for 3 different people, at 3 different times, for
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different crapware.
I sometimes volunteer to try and drag a computer out of the mud.
Most of them have Norton or macafee, and people think thats enough.
 
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:st6le4p4emi22jp32v9sg5t9edllvk06fr@4ax.com...
I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.

What's the recommended replacement?

...Jim Thompson

[...]
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Maybe one a month I'll run "Ad-aware" http://www.lavasoft.com/. Never finds
anything, hence I've no idea how good it is. Through total lack of interest
on my part I'm not even sure what it's even supposed to be doing.
Presumably it does work as a couple of years ago it spotted a Trojan picked
up within a couple of minutes of installing my new broadband modem and thus
'incentivised' me (been watching too much recent TV :), to fit a firewall
prog 'ZoneAlarm'. (I'm on an original XP install).
Seems a well battened down firewall may be a key. I still visit the same
scummy/weird corners of the Internet and had enormous scum software
problems using Win95/98 but at that time had no firewall installed.
 
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:14:54 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

flipper wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
Sjouke Burry wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.

What's the recommended replacement?

...Jim Thompson
About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.

Does that mean the removal tool doesn't work properly??

If things are 'fine' then it usually works well enough. But if
anything is off then it often leaves remnants, which aren't usually a
problem for anything other than Symantec programs. Like removing an
older version of NAV to install a new one: the new install fails.

Ah ! The sweet smell of QUALITY software !

Does anyone remember when Norton Tools was the de rigeur requirement for
anyone serious in IT ?
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You mean:

news:g5one4pbu8ogcm3fergm0en2rk6kn0o1pt@4ax.com

?

JF
 
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 23:12:45 +0100, "john jardine"
<john.jardine@idnet.co.uk> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:st6le4p4emi22jp32v9sg5t9edllvk06fr@4ax.com...

I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.

What's the recommended replacement?

...Jim Thompson

[...]

Maybe one a month I'll run "Ad-aware" http://www.lavasoft.com/. Never finds
anything, hence I've no idea how good it is. Through total lack of interest
on my part I'm not even sure what it's even supposed to be doing.
Presumably it does work as a couple of years ago it spotted a Trojan picked
up within a couple of minutes of installing my new broadband modem and thus
'incentivised' me (been watching too much recent TV :), to fit a firewall
prog 'ZoneAlarm'. (I'm on an original XP install).
Seems a well battened down firewall may be a key. I still visit the same
scummy/weird corners of the Internet and had enormous scum software
problems using Win95/98 but at that time had no firewall installed.
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I run both Ad-aware and Spybot periodically... seems to catch mostly
nuisance cookies.

I sometimes wonder if you can really get much of anything if you
follow the simple rules of not opening anything that comes via E-mail,
and watch out what sites you download from.

Time to break out the vino and prep myself so I don't get too sick
during the "debate" ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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john jardine wrote:

"Jim Thompson" wrote

I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.

What's the recommended replacement?

Maybe one a month I'll run "Ad-aware" http://www.lavasoft.com/. Never finds
anything, hence I've no idea how good it is. Through total lack of interest
on my part I'm not even sure what it's even supposed to be doing.
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It's supposed to pick up 'malware' rather than outright viruses. I use it
occasionally myself too. It'll also get rid of tracking cookies AIUI.

Graham
 
Jim Thompson wrote:

I sometimes wonder if you can really get much of anything if you
follow the simple rules of not opening anything that comes via E-mail,
and watch out what sites you download from.
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Since you have me killfiled you probably won't see this useful info unless
someone else replies but I'm advised that if you use a proper router it's quite
difficult to get viruses, unless you're daft enough to deliberately download
them or run dodgy scripts on webpages.

I still use a software firewall though. I find the older versions of Zone Alarm
are fine. Like everything else it's turned into bloatware :-( .Version
4.5.594 here. I like the way it alerts you if a new program wants access to the
net and you can say NO !

Graham
 
Spehro Pefhany wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Sjouke Burry wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.

What's the recommended replacement?

About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.

Does that mean the removal tool doesn't work properly??

What do you use now for anti-virus protection?

CONDOM ?

Graham

Got something on your mind?
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Must have ! LOL ! ;~)

Graham
 
John Fields wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
flipper wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Sjouke Burry wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.

What's the recommended replacement?

About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.

Does that mean the removal tool doesn't work properly??

If things are 'fine' then it usually works well enough. But if
anything is off then it often leaves remnants, which aren't usually a
problem for anything other than Symantec programs. Like removing an
older version of NAV to install a new one: the new install fails.

Ah ! The sweet smell of QUALITY software !

Does anyone remember when Norton Tools was the de rigeur requirement for
anyone serious in IT ?

---
You mean:

news:g5one4pbu8ogcm3fergm0en2rk6kn0o1pt@4ax.com
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Uhuh.

And just TWO FLOPPY DISKS too ! Not sure how many disks later versions came
on. I must have several copies lying around in the 'archive' somewhere. It's
still on my DOS PC.

On the golden oldies theme btw, did you ever see applications written in 32
bit DOS ? One of my regular jobs at one time was to provide support for one.
They 'flew' !

Graham
 
Sjouke Burry wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Sjouke Burry wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.

What's the recommended replacement?

About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.

You mean you didn't learn the first time ?

You may need to explain about that to Jim. He seems like a bit of
innocent in these matters.

Twas for 3 different people, at 3 different times, for
different crapware.
I sometimes volunteer to try and drag a computer out of the mud.
Most of them have Norton or macafee, and people think thats enough.
Click to expand...
Oh tell me about it ! Sorry I left out the wink in the previous btw.

Doing something like that a few months ago led to me losing my driving
licence. The guy whose computer I was fixing (he was crying like a child
on the phone to get me to come over) argued with me over what I was
doing. After 1 1/2 hours it was OK again. And I designed him 2 damn
websites for free TOO !

I was so furious I went out and bought a 4 pack of strong lager to calm
down and drank the lot.

About 5 hours later I had to go out. Thought I was sober and got pulled
over by chance. And that's after 32 years of a completely unblemished
licence too !

Plus it may also lose me an upcoming interesting new opportunity
involving a Chinese company and UK company sort of merging, since I'd
need to drive to the UK place (too far and out of the way to commute).

Bastard.

Graham
 
In article <y9RGk.50174$i92.19099@en-nntp-03.am2.easynews.com>, "john jardine" <john.jardine@idnet.co.uk> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:st6le4p4emi22jp32v9sg5t9edllvk06fr@4ax.com...

I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.

What's the recommended replacement?

...Jim Thompson

[...]

Maybe one a month I'll run "Ad-aware" http://www.lavasoft.com/. Never finds
anything, hence I've no idea how good it is. Through total lack of interest
on my part I'm not even sure what it's even supposed to be doing.
Presumably it does work as a couple of years ago it spotted a Trojan picked
up within a couple of minutes of installing my new broadband modem and thus
'incentivised' me (been watching too much recent TV :), to fit a firewall
prog 'ZoneAlarm'. (I'm on an original XP install).
Seems a well battened down firewall may be a key. I still visit the same
scummy/weird corners of the Internet and had enormous scum software
problems using Win95/98 but at that time had no firewall installed.
Click to expand...
I use Ad-aware and the old Spybot. Spybot has been around for a long time. One
or the other catches different things. I have had to search for specific problems
on the web or groups. One problem, someone wrote a little program to remove
something I had for the Google search bug. I think the Microsoft malicious
software removal tool is a pain and does nothing.

greg
 
GregS wrote:

I think the Microsoft malicious software removal tool is a pain and does nothing.
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Would be par for the course. IIRC they bought it from another software company, immediately disabled its 16 bit
capabilities that I'd have liked at the time for 98SE and then lost interest in it.

For 'lost interest in' read normal Microsoft development cycle.

Graham
 
In article <48ECC5D4.F34F431B@hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
GregS wrote:

I think the Microsoft malicious software removal tool is a pain and does
nothing.

Would be par for the course. IIRC they bought it from another software company,
immediately disabled its 16 bit
capabilities that I'd have liked at the time for 98SE and then lost interest in
it.

For 'lost interest in' read normal Microsoft development cycle.

Graham
Click to expand...

I still use 98SE at home, or W2K dual boot.

greg
 
JeffM wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What's the recommended replacement?

Paul Urbanus wrote:
I use ESET NOD32. Recommended by the IT guy
from a friends small (20 person) software company.[...]
www.eset.com

(alt.binaries.schematics.electronic removed from To: line)

It is also recommended by a guy whose opinion I value in these
matters.
In fact, they have become a sponsor of his
--and he is VERY discriminating about the sponsors he accepts
(though he recommended NOD32 before that financial link existed).
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:8MyGkWTD9MoJ:techguylabs.com/radio/ShowNotes/Show494+Leo.Laporte+ESET+NOD-32+site:TechGuyLabs.com
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http://service1.symantec.com/Support/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039


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Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
news:st6le4p4emi22jp32v9sg5t9edllvk06fr@4ax.com:

I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.

What's the recommended replacement?

...Jim Thompson
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Kaspersky http://www.kaspersky.com/

Robert
 
Robert wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote
I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.

What's the recommended replacement?

Kaspersky http://www.kaspersky.com/
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Russian isn't it ? So that means they have advance knowledge of all the
newviruses.

Graham
 
GregS wrote:
I think the Microsoft malicious software removal tool
is a pain and does nothing.

The day Micros~1 bought it, it was #1.
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..
Eeyore wrote:
Would be par for the course.
IIRC they bought it from another software company,

They bought the whole company, actually.
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http://www.google.com/search?q=GIANT.Company.Software+anti-spyware

immediately disabled its 16 bit capabilities

Yup. Can't be supporting your own 4 year old OS. 8-|
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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:vdone4p8ph1op66g9jv5lpcbbtmdd0sri4@4ax.com...
You mean:

news:g5one4pbu8ogcm3fergm0en2rk6kn0o1pt@4ax.com

?

JF
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Back in the 70's when I traveled a lot, I met a guy in LA at a computer
show. He had some neet stuff. His name was Peter Norton.

Tom
 
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:48ED4081.2BAE517E@hotmail.com:

Robert wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote
I'm biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.

What's the recommended replacement?

Kaspersky http://www.kaspersky.com/

Russian isn't it ? So that means they have advance knowledge of all the
newviruses.

Graham
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I would hope that they are less likely to do what some government
bureaucrat demands, but does not want to show probaboe cause for. The
German bureaucrats are trying to make use of malware. The Kaspersky
firewall is also good at letting me know when Micro$oft is being contacted.

I have a distrust of those who want unrestrained power.

Have a good day,
Robert
 
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