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On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 14:50:35 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 22:17:00 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:04:58?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 10:46:08 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 02:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 5:33:20?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 4:36:14?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 12:58:46?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
snip
For once I find myself in agreement with Bill.
He isn\'t.
There is no climate crisis.
True. Things are getting progressively worse, but there\'s no \"crisis\" which is \"the turning point of a disease when an important change takes place, indicating either recovery or death.\" The general sense decisive point dates from the early 17th century, and it\'s inappropriate in this situation
It\'s all a great big stinking pile of BS.
It isn\'t but Cursitor Doom subscribes the great big stinking pile of self-serving BS otherwise known as climate change denial propaganda.
The planet may be warming, but even if it is, it\'s a natural, organic process, and part of a cycle which has *nothing* to do with CO2 levels.
This happens to be completely wrong, but it is what the climate change denial propaganda machine is trying to feed to people silly enough to believes it.
I\'ve put together a selection of snippets from the world\'s leading encyclopaedias which show that CO2 levels have not changed in over 160 years. See here:
If you search through stuff published at the end of the 19th century you can find defective observations that appear to support that idea.
A more comprehensive literature search would show it to be wrong.
Says someone who hasn\'t picked up a book since the Web was invented!
A nonsensical claim. I\'ve got a copy of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt
sitting on my bookshelf, which was published in 2010, some 17 years after the world wide web was invented, and I read it when I first bought it.
You should do the same. It\'s still in print, but cheaper on a kindle.
https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=Merchants_of_Doubt&i=stripbooks&crid=WHOAMDBRCLW6&sprefix=merchants_of_doubt%2Cstripbooks%2C262&ref=nb_sb_noss
It won\'t matter. Cursitor is a far right Trumper type who would rather be on the side of conspiracy theories even if the truth says different. Everybody has the right to believe anything they want.
That\'s what we have to realize these days.
Okay, fair enough. I\'ve put up my evidence, Bill\'s put up his, and everyone\'s free to reach their own conclusions on the matter.
Cursitor Doom\'s \"evidence\" is antiquated rubbish, text-chopped into appearing to support Cursitor Doom\'s demented delusions.
He doesn\'t deal with the ice core historical data
https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/
probably becasue he\'s nver heard of it
I know from long experience that I\'ll never shake Bill out of his convictions
That because Cursitor Doom doesn\'t have access to reliable information. From, time to time people catch me getting something wrong and I do acknowledege their corrections. but Cursitor Doom hasn\'t managed this yet, and probably never will.
and he\'ll never shake me out of mine.
Cursitor Doom is a conspiracy theory junkie, with a taste for particularly absurd theories.
Most of the time he\'s not interested in the underlying subject matter anyway; it\'s just an opportunity for him to get attention and waste everyone else\'s time.
Whereas Cursitor Doom has a altrusitic desired to spread the most absurd conspiracy theories he can find on the assumption that everybody else finds reality just as dull and unsatisfying as he does. As Fox News has just found out, lying can be a expensive way of entertaining people.
Well, I could tell you that the US government paid umpteen billion
dollars of tax payers money to Rupert Murdoch to pull the exposure of
the stolen election off their screens and dump Tucker Carlson. In
return Murdoch paid a fraction of that back again to Dominion. The
whole thing was a set-up. The truth *will* come out fully sooner or
later, though. We haven\'t heard the last of Carlson....
My guess is that TC will end up at Newsmax
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:04:58?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 10:46:08 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 02:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 5:33:20?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 4:36:14?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 12:58:46?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
snip
For once I find myself in agreement with Bill.
He isn\'t.
There is no climate crisis.
True. Things are getting progressively worse, but there\'s no \"crisis\" which is \"the turning point of a disease when an important change takes place, indicating either recovery or death.\" The general sense decisive point dates from the early 17th century, and it\'s inappropriate in this situation
It\'s all a great big stinking pile of BS.
It isn\'t but Cursitor Doom subscribes the great big stinking pile of self-serving BS otherwise known as climate change denial propaganda.
The planet may be warming, but even if it is, it\'s a natural, organic process, and part of a cycle which has *nothing* to do with CO2 levels.
This happens to be completely wrong, but it is what the climate change denial propaganda machine is trying to feed to people silly enough to believes it.
I\'ve put together a selection of snippets from the world\'s leading encyclopaedias which show that CO2 levels have not changed in over 160 years. See here:
If you search through stuff published at the end of the 19th century you can find defective observations that appear to support that idea.
A more comprehensive literature search would show it to be wrong.
Says someone who hasn\'t picked up a book since the Web was invented!
A nonsensical claim. I\'ve got a copy of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt
sitting on my bookshelf, which was published in 2010, some 17 years after the world wide web was invented, and I read it when I first bought it.
You should do the same. It\'s still in print, but cheaper on a kindle.
https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=Merchants_of_Doubt&i=stripbooks&crid=WHOAMDBRCLW6&sprefix=merchants_of_doubt%2Cstripbooks%2C262&ref=nb_sb_noss
It won\'t matter. Cursitor is a far right Trumper type who would rather be on the side of conspiracy theories even if the truth says different. Everybody has the right to believe anything they want.
That\'s what we have to realize these days.
Okay, fair enough. I\'ve put up my evidence, Bill\'s put up his, and everyone\'s free to reach their own conclusions on the matter.
Cursitor Doom\'s \"evidence\" is antiquated rubbish, text-chopped into appearing to support Cursitor Doom\'s demented delusions.
He doesn\'t deal with the ice core historical data
https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 08:34:20 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:53?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
...As for Obama\'s 100% FAKE birth
certificate, check out this clip and see for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK1NfIhzR5g
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 09:43:39 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
The hockey-stick curve has credibility, partly because it isn\'t ONE
indicator, but a multiplicity of different ones with the same behavior.
\"The hockey-stick curve has credibility\" Oh dear. Now YOU have zero
credibility. That was Al Gore\'s ruse and it was exposed for what it
was. It had all the integrity of the last US election and the
authenticity of Obama\'s birth certificate. Busted!
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 22:17:00 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:04:58?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 10:46:08 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 02:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 5:33:20?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 4:36:14?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 12:58:46?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
snip
For once I find myself in agreement with Bill.
He isn\'t.
There is no climate crisis.
True. Things are getting progressively worse, but there\'s no \"crisis\" which is \"the turning point of a disease when an important change takes place, indicating either recovery or death.\" The general sense âdecisive pointâ dates from the early 17th century, and it\'s inappropriate in this situation
It\'s all a great big stinking pile of BS.
It isn\'t but Cursitor Doom subscribes the great big stinking pile of self-serving BS otherwise known as climate change denial propaganda.
The planet may be warming, but even if it is, it\'s a natural, organic process, and part of a cycle which has *nothing* to do with CO2 levels.
This happens to be completely wrong, but it is what the climate change denial propaganda machine is trying to feed to people silly enough to believes it.
I\'ve put together a selection of snippets from the world\'s leading encyclopaedias which show that CO2 levels have not changed in over 160 years. See here:
If you search through stuff published at the end of the 19th century you can find defective observations that appear to support that idea.
A more comprehensive literature search would show it to be wrong.
Says someone who hasn\'t picked up a book since the Web was invented!
A nonsensical claim. I\'ve got a copy of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt
sitting on my bookshelf, which was published in 2010, some 17 years after the world wide web was invented, and I read it when I first bought it..
You should do the same. It\'s still in print, but cheaper on a kindle..
https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=Merchants_of_Doubt&i=stripbooks&crid=WHOAMDBRCLW6&sprefix=merchants_of_doubt%2Cstripbooks%2C262&ref=nb_sb_noss
It won\'t matter. Cursitor is a far right Trumper type who would rather be on the side of conspiracy theories even if the truth says different. Everybody has the right to believe anything they want.
That\'s what we have to realize these days.
Okay, fair enough. I\'ve put up my evidence, Bill\'s put up his, and everyone\'s free to reach their own conclusions on the matter.
Cursitor Doom\'s \"evidence\" is antiquated rubbish, text-chopped into appearing to support Cursitor Doom\'s demented delusions.
He doesn\'t deal with the ice core historical data
https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/
Because the \"ice core data\" is completely irrelevant! The \"ice core data\" can\'t explain away the fact that whilst all that man-made pollution was being belched out by the industrialised world in the most emission-intensive century in the history of man, the CO2 levels remained stable and essentially unchanged.
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 09:43:39 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 6:43:48?AM UTC-7, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 22:57:58 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:13:35?PM UTC-7, boB wrote:
... wasiting time with an off topic topic.
It can be an interesting topic though. Just a topic where nobody wins
either side of the argument.
Usually it\'s politics or religion that have this result but these
days, science does also.
Nonsense. The science behind global warming is basic, all the
important causes were known to science and conclusions supported
since the early 1990s (the controversial period was the seventies and eighties).
You people have no answer as to the most fundamental point here. Over
the entire course of the 20th Century - the most polluting century in
the history of mankind - CO2 levels remained broadly constant at
385ppm.
Not true. Air samples trapped in layers of ice don\'t verify the old
results (probably from chem labs in cities) that generated the \"broadly constant\"
reports. The hockey-stick curve has credibility, partly because it isn\'t ONE
indicator, but a multiplicity of different ones with the same behavior.
All the CO2 produced by man\'s activity was absorbed by plants ...
Again, nonsense; CO2 comes out of volcanoes, and gets reabsorbed into
minerals, and plants just borrow it for a while in the middle. The
\'balance\' is a match in mineral-to-biosphere and biosphere-to-mineral rates.
The human contribution from oil and coal mining is an abrupt change in
generation from volcanoes-only to human-mining-and-volcanoes as the
source term, with plants being... mainly harmless bystanders.
\"The hockey-stick curve has credibility\" Oh dear. Now YOU have zero credibility. That was Al Gore\'s ruse and it was exposed for what it was. It had all the integrity of the last US election and the authenticity of Obama\'s birth certificate. Busted!
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 10:14:38 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 14:50:35 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 22:17:00 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill.....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:04:58?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 10:46:08 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 02:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 5:33:20?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 4:36:14?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 12:58:46?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Well, I could tell you that the US government paid umpteen billion
dollars of tax payers money to Rupert Murdoch to pull the exposure of
the stolen election off their screens and dump Tucker Carlson. In
return Murdoch paid a fraction of that back again to Dominion. The
whole thing was a set-up. The truth *will* come out fully sooner or
later, though. We haven\'t heard the last of Carlson....
My guess is that TC will end up at Newsmax
If he doesn\'t end up mysteriously committing \'suicide\' first.
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:14:43?AM UTC-7, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 08:34:20 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:53?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
...As for Obama\'s 100% FAKE birth
certificate, check out this clip and see for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK1NfIhzR5g
I believe my parents, and my birth certificate, on the date and place of
my birth. So does Barack Obama. Liars can believe one thing
and make a video about another...
If the certificate in question were YOURS, would you trust your state
records? Your parents? If not, what WOULD you trust? A dream vision
sent by Apollo?
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 5:14:42?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 09:43:39 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 6:43:48?AM UTC-7, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 22:57:58 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:13:35?PM UTC-7, boB wrote:
... wasiting time with an off topic topic.
It can be an interesting topic though. Just a topic where nobody wins
either side of the argument.
Usually it\'s politics or religion that have this result but these
days, science does also.
Nonsense. The science behind global warming is basic, all the
important causes were known to science and conclusions supported
since the early 1990s (the controversial period was the seventies and eighties).
You people have no answer as to the most fundamental point here. Over
the entire course of the 20th Century - the most polluting century in
the history of mankind - CO2 levels remained broadly constant at
385ppm.
Not true. Air samples trapped in layers of ice don\'t verify the old
results (probably from chem labs in cities) that generated the \"broadly constant\"
reports. The hockey-stick curve has credibility, partly because it isn\'t ONE
indicator, but a multiplicity of different ones with the same behavior.
All the CO2 produced by man\'s activity was absorbed by plants ...
Again, nonsense; CO2 comes out of volcanoes, and gets reabsorbed into
minerals, and plants just borrow it for a while in the middle. The
\'balance\' is a match in mineral-to-biosphere and biosphere-to-mineral rates.
The human contribution from oil and coal mining is an abrupt change in
generation from volcanoes-only to human-mining-and-volcanoes as the
source term, with plants being... mainly harmless bystanders.
\"The hockey-stick curve has credibility\" Oh dear. Now YOU have zero credibility. That was Al Gore\'s ruse and it was exposed for what it was. It had all the integrity of the last US election and the authenticity of Obama\'s birth certificate. Busted!
Al Gore published his book in 1992,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_in_the_Balance
The hockey stick graph was published in 1999 by Michael Mann and two co-authors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_stick_graph_(global_temperature)
The climate change denial propaganda machine went after it, and lot\'s of people were inspired to look at a other proxies for past temperatures. Apparently there are now about two dozen independent investigations that essentially replicate the original data, some of the extending a long way further back - one goes back 11,300 years based on undisturbed lake and seabed sediments (which are rare).
It\'s probably the most thoroughly replicated result in science, purely because the climate change denial creeps went after it so very enthusiastically.
It\'s got the kind of credibility that you could only dream of, even before you had shredded the tattered remnants of your own credibility with this spectacularly false claim.
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 6:20:48?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 22:17:00 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:04:58?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 10:46:08 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 02:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 5:33:20?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 4:36:14?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 12:58:46?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
snip
For once I find myself in agreement with Bill.
He isn\'t.
There is no climate crisis.
True. Things are getting progressively worse, but there\'s no \"crisis\" which is \"the turning point of a disease when an important change takes place, indicating either recovery or death.\" The general sense decisive point dates from the early 17th century, and it\'s inappropriate in this situation
It\'s all a great big stinking pile of BS.
It isn\'t but Cursitor Doom subscribes the great big stinking pile of self-serving BS otherwise known as climate change denial propaganda.
The planet may be warming, but even if it is, it\'s a natural, organic process, and part of a cycle which has *nothing* to do with CO2 levels.
This happens to be completely wrong, but it is what the climate change denial propaganda machine is trying to feed to people silly enough to believes it.
I\'ve put together a selection of snippets from the world\'s leading encyclopaedias which show that CO2 levels have not changed in over 160 years. See here:
If you search through stuff published at the end of the 19th century you can find defective observations that appear to support that idea.
A more comprehensive literature search would show it to be wrong.
Says someone who hasn\'t picked up a book since the Web was invented!
A nonsensical claim. I\'ve got a copy of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt
sitting on my bookshelf, which was published in 2010, some 17 years after the world wide web was invented, and I read it when I first bought it.
You should do the same. It\'s still in print, but cheaper on a kindle.
https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=Merchants_of_Doubt&i=stripbooks&crid=WHOAMDBRCLW6&sprefix=merchants_of_doubt%2Cstripbooks%2C262&ref=nb_sb_noss
It won\'t matter. Cursitor is a far right Trumper type who would rather be on the side of conspiracy theories even if the truth says different. Everybody has the right to believe anything they want.
That\'s what we have to realize these days.
Okay, fair enough. I\'ve put up my evidence, Bill\'s put up his, and everyone\'s free to reach their own conclusions on the matter.
Cursitor Doom\'s \"evidence\" is antiquated rubbish, text-chopped into appearing to support Cursitor Doom\'s demented delusions.
He doesn\'t deal with the ice core historical data
https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/
Because the \"ice core data\" is completely irrelevant! The \"ice core data\" can\'t explain away the fact that whilst all that man-made pollution was being belched out by the industrialised world in the most emission-intensive century in the history of man, the CO2 levels remained stable and essentially unchanged.
They didn\'t, and and your selective citation of data collected when it was simply too difficult to collect accurate data - or at least data accurate enough to make the point you seem to think it makes - isn\'t going to persuade anybody who knows anything about what was going on.
The ice core data does extend into the period about which you are making your fatuous claims, and blows them out of the water.
This isn\'t Wikipedia, it\'s the British Antarctic Survey, High Cross, Madingley Road. CAMBRIDGE CB3 0ET, United Kingdom.
I used to cycle past it, and one of my colleagues from Cambridge Instruments went to work for them, and developed a device that would weight Emperor penguins as they walked across on their way to or from their rookeries.
Your historical research falls down because you don\'t know enough about what the published data means. I got a Ph.D. in Physical Chemistry and I was raised by parents who both had degrees in chemistry. You are trying to pass off your delusions to somebody really does know about the subject.
That\'s the uncomfortable little fact that the climate alarmists simply can\'t dismiss, because the serious researchers like myself won\'t let them.
It\'s not any kind of \"fact\" but merely a demented delusion, and your attempt to pass yourself off as a \"serious researcher\" is entirely comical.
-- \\
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 17:12:29 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:14:43?AM UTC-7, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 08:34:20 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:53?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
...As for Obama\'s 100% FAKE birth
certificate, check out this clip and see for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK1NfIhzR5g
I believe my parents, and my birth certificate, on the date and place of
my birth. So does Barack Obama. Liars can believe one thing
and make a video about another...
If the certificate in question were YOURS, would you trust your state
records? Your parents? If not, what WOULD you trust? A dream vision
sent by Apollo?
This has very little to do with state records. It\'s to do with Obama
(or someone acting on his behalf) \"uttering\" a forgery.
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 14:50:35 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 22:17:00 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:04:58?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 10:46:08 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 02:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 5:33:20?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 4:36:14?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 12:58:46?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
snip
For once I find myself in agreement with Bill.
He isn\'t.
There is no climate crisis.
True. Things are getting progressively worse, but there\'s no \"crisis\" which is \"the turning point of a disease when an important change takes place, indicating either recovery or death.\" The general sense Âdecisive point dates from the early 17th century, and it\'s inappropriate in this situation
It\'s all a great big stinking pile of BS.
It isn\'t but Cursitor Doom subscribes the great big stinking pile of self-serving BS otherwise known as climate change denial propaganda.
The planet may be warming, but even if it is, it\'s a natural, organic process, and part of a cycle which has *nothing* to do with CO2 levels.
This happens to be completely wrong, but it is what the climate change denial propaganda machine is trying to feed to people silly enough to believes it.
I\'ve put together a selection of snippets from the world\'s leading encyclopaedias which show that CO2 levels have not changed in over 160 years. See here:
If you search through stuff published at the end of the 19th century you can find defective observations that appear to support that idea.
A more comprehensive literature search would show it to be wrong.
Says someone who hasn\'t picked up a book since the Web was invented!
A nonsensical claim. I\'ve got a copy of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt
sitting on my bookshelf, which was published in 2010, some 17 years after the world wide web was invented, and I read it when I first bought it.
You should do the same. It\'s still in print, but cheaper on a kindle.
https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=Merchants_of_Doubt&i=stripbooks&crid=WHOAMDBRCLW6&sprefix=merchants_of_doubt%2Cstripbooks%2C262&ref=nb_sb_noss
It won\'t matter. Cursitor is a far right Trumper type who would rather be on the side of conspiracy theories even if the truth says different. Everybody has the right to believe anything they want.
That\'s what we have to realize these days.
Okay, fair enough. I\'ve put up my evidence, Bill\'s put up his, and everyone\'s free to reach their own conclusions on the matter.
Cursitor Doom\'s \"evidence\" is antiquated rubbish, text-chopped into appearing to support Cursitor Doom\'s demented delusions.
He doesn\'t deal with the ice core historical data
https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/
probably becasue he\'s nver heard of it
I know from long experience that I\'ll never shake Bill out of his convictions
That because Cursitor Doom doesn\'t have access to reliable information. From, time to time people catch me getting something wrong and I do acknowledege their corrections. but Cursitor Doom hasn\'t managed this yet, and probably never will.
and he\'ll never shake me out of mine.
Cursitor Doom is a conspiracy theory junkie, with a taste for particularly absurd theories.
Most of the time he\'s not interested in the underlying subject matter anyway; it\'s just an opportunity for him to get attention and waste everyone else\'s time.
Whereas Cursitor Doom has a altrusitic desired to spread the most absurd conspiracy theories he can find on the assumption that everybody else finds reality just as dull and unsatisfying as he does. As Fox News has just found out, lying can be a expensive way of entertaining people.
Well, I could tell you that the US government paid umpteen billion
dollars of tax payers money to Rupert Murdoch to pull the exposure of
the stolen election off their screens and dump Tucker Carlson. In
return Murdoch paid a fraction of that back again to Dominion. The
whole thing was a set-up. The truth *will* come out fully sooner or
later, though. We haven\'t heard the last of Carlson....
My guess is that TC will end up at Newsmax
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 17:12:29 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:14:43?AM UTC-7, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 08:34:20 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:53?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
...As for Obama\'s 100% FAKE birth
certificate, check out this clip and see for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK1NfIhzR5g
I believe my parents, and my birth certificate, on the date and place of
my birth. So does Barack Obama. Liars can believe one thing
and make a video about another...
If the certificate in question were YOURS, would you trust your state
records? Your parents? If not, what WOULD you trust? A dream vision
sent by Apollo?
This has very little to do with state records. It\'s to do with Obama (or someone acting on his behalf) \"uttering\" a forgery.
That\'s the technical term for it.
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 22:37:56 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 6:20:48?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 22:17:00 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:04:58?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 10:46:08 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 02:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 5:33:20?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 4:36:14?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 12:58:46?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
snip
For once I find myself in agreement with Bill.
He isn\'t.
There is no climate crisis.
True. Things are getting progressively worse, but there\'s no \"crisis\" which is \"the turning point of a disease when an important change takes place, indicating either recovery or death.\" The general sense âdecisive pointâ dates from the early 17th century, and it\'s inappropriate in this situation
It\'s all a great big stinking pile of BS.
It isn\'t but Cursitor Doom subscribes the great big stinking pile of self-serving BS otherwise known as climate change denial propaganda.
The planet may be warming, but even if it is, it\'s a natural, organic process, and part of a cycle which has *nothing* to do with CO2 levels.
This happens to be completely wrong, but it is what the climate change denial propaganda machine is trying to feed to people silly enough to believes it.
I\'ve put together a selection of snippets from the world\'s leading encyclopaedias which show that CO2 levels have not changed in over 160 years. See here:
If you search through stuff published at the end of the 19th century you can find defective observations that appear to support that idea..
A more comprehensive literature search would show it to be wrong.
Says someone who hasn\'t picked up a book since the Web was invented!
A nonsensical claim. I\'ve got a copy of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt
sitting on my bookshelf, which was published in 2010, some 17 years after the world wide web was invented, and I read it when I first bought it.
You should do the same. It\'s still in print, but cheaper on a kindle.
https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=Merchants_of_Doubt&i=stripbooks&crid=WHOAMDBRCLW6&sprefix=merchants_of_doubt%2Cstripbooks%2C262&ref=nb_sb_noss
It won\'t matter. Cursitor is a far right Trumper type who would rather be on the side of conspiracy theories even if the truth says different.. Everybody has the right to believe anything they want.
That\'s what we have to realize these days.
Okay, fair enough. I\'ve put up my evidence, Bill\'s put up his, and everyone\'s free to reach their own conclusions on the matter.
Cursitor Doom\'s \"evidence\" is antiquated rubbish, text-chopped into appearing to support Cursitor Doom\'s demented delusions.
He doesn\'t deal with the ice core historical data
https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/
Because the \"ice core data\" is completely irrelevant! The \"ice core data\" can\'t explain away the fact that whilst all that man-made pollution was being belched out by the industrialised world in the most emission-intensive century in the history of man, the CO2 levels remained stable and essentially unchanged.
They didn\'t, and and your selective citation of data collected when it was simply too difficult to collect accurate data - or at least data accurate enough to make the point you seem to think it makes - isn\'t going to persuade anybody who knows anything about what was going on.
The ice core data does extend into the period about which you are making your fatuous claims, and blows them out of the water.
This isn\'t Wikipedia, it\'s the British Antarctic Survey, High Cross, Madingley Road. CAMBRIDGE CB3 0ET, United Kingdom.
I used to cycle past it, and one of my colleagues from Cambridge Instruments went to work for them, and developed a device that would weight Emperor penguins as they walked across on their way to or from their rookeries.
Your historical research falls down because you don\'t know enough about what the published data means. I got a Ph.D. in Physical Chemistry and I was raised by parents who both had degrees in chemistry. You are trying to pass off your delusions to somebody really does know about the subject.
That\'s the uncomfortable little fact that the climate alarmists simply can\'t dismiss, because the serious researchers like myself won\'t let them.
It\'s not any kind of \"fact\" but merely a demented delusion, and your attempt to pass yourself off as a \"serious researcher\" is entirely comical.
LOL! I like the way you write \"CAMBRIDGE\" all in caps, like that adds some kind of extra weight to your claims! :-D
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 6:45:32?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 17:12:29 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:14:43?AM UTC-7, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 08:34:20 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:53?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
...As for Obama\'s 100% FAKE birth
certificate, check out this clip and see for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK1NfIhzR5g
I believe my parents, and my birth certificate, on the date and place of
my birth. So does Barack Obama. Liars can believe one thing
and make a video about another...
If the certificate in question were YOURS, would you trust your state
records? Your parents? If not, what WOULD you trust? A dream vision
sent by Apollo?
This has very little to do with state records. It\'s to do with Obama (or someone acting on his behalf) \"uttering\" a forgery.
That\'s the technical term for it.
Or would be if it were a forgery. It doesn\'t seem to be.
When they put that amateurish paste-up job on the WH web site, that\'s what they did.
Why do you think that it is an amateurish paste up job? Have you done enough of that kind of forgery to be an expert on what a professional forgery would look like?
So of course it suits the Left to try to divert the real issue by taking the discussion off on a tangent to some irrelevant crap about state records. Tried and trusted tactics wheeled out again...
A birth certificate is a state record. The technology used to archive the documents has changed quite a bit since mine was recorded with pen and ink, in 1942. In 1961 most of the data was typed. Microfilming the documents came later.
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 06:06:31 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 6:45:32?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 17:12:29 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:14:43?AM UTC-7, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 08:34:20 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:53?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
...As for Obama\'s 100% FAKE birth
certificate, check out this clip and see for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK1NfIhzR5g
I believe my parents, and my birth certificate, on the date and place of
my birth. So does Barack Obama. Liars can believe one thing
and make a video about another...
If the certificate in question were YOURS, would you trust your state
records? Your parents? If not, what WOULD you trust? A dream vision
sent by Apollo?
This has very little to do with state records. It\'s to do with Obama (or someone acting on his behalf) \"uttering\" a forgery.
That\'s the technical term for it.
Or would be if it were a forgery. It doesn\'t seem to be.
When they put that amateurish paste-up job on the WH web site, that\'s what they did.
Why do you think that it is an amateurish paste up job? Have you done enough of that kind of forgery to be an expert on what a professional forgery would look like?
So of course it suits the Left to try to divert the real issue by taking the discussion off on a tangent to some irrelevant crap about state records. Tried and trusted tactics wheeled out again...
A birth certificate is a state record. The technology used to archive the documents has changed quite a bit since mine was recorded with pen and ink, in 1942. In 1961 most of the data was typed. Microfilming the documents came later.
I defer to the FBI. They had some documentation expert pull the damn
thing apart and it was all exposed on video. In fact Alex Jones had
the thing up on his website for years - until he did that deal where
he accepted a huge payout to publicly \'lose\' the show trial brought by
the parents of the Sandy Hook school shooting in order to bury that
story - just the same as Murdoch took a payout over the 2020 election
claim.
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 06:06:31 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 6:45:32?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 17:12:29 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:14:43?AM UTC-7, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 08:34:20 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:53?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
...As for Obama\'s 100% FAKE birth
certificate, check out this clip and see for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK1NfIhzR5g
I believe my parents, and my birth certificate, on the date and place of
my birth. So does Barack Obama. Liars can believe one thing
and make a video about another...
If the certificate in question were YOURS, would you trust your state
records? Your parents? If not, what WOULD you trust? A dream vision
sent by Apollo?
This has very little to do with state records. It\'s to do with Obama (or someone acting on his behalf) \"uttering\" a forgery.
That\'s the technical term for it.
Or would be if it were a forgery. It doesn\'t seem to be.
When they put that amateurish paste-up job on the WH web site, that\'s what they did.
Why do you think that it is an amateurish paste up job? Have you done enough of that kind of forgery to be an expert on what a professional forgery would look like?
So of course it suits the Left to try to divert the real issue by taking the discussion off on a tangent to some irrelevant crap about state records. Tried and trusted tactics wheeled out again...
A birth certificate is a state record. The technology used to archive the documents has changed quite a bit since mine was recorded with pen and ink, in 1942. In 1961 most of the data was typed. Microfilming the documents came later.
I defer to the FBI. They had some documentation expert pull the damn
thing apart and it was all exposed on video. In fact Alex Jones had
the thing up on his website for years - until he did that deal where
he accepted a huge payout to publicly \'lose\' the show trial brought by
the parents of the Sandy Hook school shooting in order to bury that
story - just the same as Murdoch took a payout over the 2020 election
claim.
...As for Obama\'s 100% FAKE birth
certificate, check out this clip and see for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK1NfIhzR5g
I defer to the FBI. They had some documentation expert pull the damn
thing apart and it was all exposed on video.
In fact Alex Jones had
the thing up on his website for years - until he did that deal where ...