RCF extortionate repair charges

"Ever tried fixing an RCF switcher without the benefit of a schematic ? No
...? "

For that kind of money I will dogdamn fucking try like hell. Seriously. And most of what I have fixed in the last decadeor two has been without a print.

Granted, reverse engineering takes ALOT longer these day, but six hundred bucks. Six hundred bucks. I mean, are they encapsulated or something ?

>"That's make, not extort ... "

I tink we all agree on that. sand I think that is why the market for old vintage high end equipment is alive.

>"And the posting address is ntlworld, which is a UK ISP ... "

I do not see any of that here. I can't even see your email address or anyone else's. SOMETIMES when I reply it shows up in the quoted text, but most of the time not. It will not give me any information.

It is probably because of Google, and them not wanting to be accused of fomenting spam for Usenet users becasue it would look bad.

 

[Arfa Daily]

"Leif Neland" <leif@neland.dk> wrote in message
news:mn.a45b7de96f32991c.130671@neland.dk...

jurb6006@gmail.com formulerede lřrdag:
Well, why can't you fix that power supply ?

Ever tried fixing an RCF switcher without the benefit of a schematic ? No
....?

You came in here and whined because a board level replacement you wanted
to do but they won't let you. Welcome to Earth. Motherfuckers are in
business to make money.

That's make, not extort ...

The fuck, how is it supposed to be clear you are in the UK ? I can't get
to any of that info from here.

Well, to be fair, he quoted prices in Ł, not $, ¤ or Ľ.
And phoned RCF UK.

Leif

And the posting address is ntlworld, which is a UK ISP ...

Arfa

 

[N_Cook]

On 19/09/2014 00:46, Gareth Magennis wrote:

Hmm, I have an active RCF speaker in for repair with a faulty SMPS.
ART 745A, retail around Ł1000.

Tried lots of things, the SMPS sparked up on Variac plus inline
lightbulb, but obviously drew lots of current on startup, and thus
continually shut down.

Mosfets removed and good, all secondary diodes removed but still same
problem, seems it is a primary side fault, maybe transformer.


Phoned RCF UK today, and they want Ł320 odd or so, probably plus 20% tax
and 2 lots of shipping, to repair the unit, as it is out of warranty.

This to me sounds like blatant profiteering.

I mean, that SMPS PCB can't cost more than several dollars bought in
bulk, so the Ł300 plus must surely be a money making exercise for
repairing their own stuff that has broken because it is not good enough
not to break in the first place.

Suffice to say I am not impressed, and would never advise anyone to buy
RCF, even though I have done in the past.




Gareth.

The only RCF I looked at and repaired was
RCF Flexa PS6320 modular amp system, ps of 2006
So 300 squid, that'll do nicely, for changing a
2.2uF SMD aluminium electrolytic that smoothed the sense voltage, was
bad ESR,
of the first SMPS ,for the low power control electronics,which must be
operational before transfering to the main power SMPS. At least they use
standard off-the-shelf components without grinding off idents.

 

[Gareth Magennis]

wrote in message
news:10476663-5068-4dbb-9b4e-1513925a6434@googlegroups.com...

"Ever tried fixing an RCF switcher without the benefit of a schematic ? No
...? "

For that kind of money I will dogdamn fucking try like hell. Seriously. And
most of what I have fixed in the last decadeor two has been without a print.

Granted, reverse engineering takes ALOT longer these day, but six hundred
bucks. Six hundred bucks. I mean, are they encapsulated or something ?

>"That's make, not extort ... "

I tink we all agree on that. sand I think that is why the market for old
vintage high end equipment is alive.

>"And the posting address is ntlworld, which is a UK ISP ... "

I do not see any of that here. I can't even see your email address or anyone
else's. SOMETIMES when I reply it shows up in the quoted text, but most of
the time not. It will not give me any information.

It is probably because of Google, and them not wanting to be accused of
fomenting spam for Usenet users becasue it would look bad.





The clue was here:

Phoned RCF UK today, and they want Ł320 odd or so, probably plus 20% tax and
2 lots of shipping, to repair the unit, as it is out of warranty.



Gareth.

 

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"Gareth Magennis" <gareth.magennis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:TnLTv.288664$Zu6.265646@fx06.am4...

wrote in message
news:10476663-5068-4dbb-9b4e-1513925a6434@googlegroups.com...

"Ever tried fixing an RCF switcher without the benefit of a schematic ? No
...? "

For that kind of money I will dogdamn fucking try like hell. Seriously.
And most of what I have fixed in the last decadeor two has been without a
print.

Granted, reverse engineering takes ALOT longer these day, but six hundred
bucks. Six hundred bucks. I mean, are they encapsulated or something ?

I fix switchers in this sort of equipment, and other areas pretty much on a
daily basis, and mostly without schematics. Gareth does too. The RCF
switchers are some of the most bastard-engineered, obscure design and
un-repairable ones that i have ever come across ...

"That's make, not extort ... "

I tink we all agree on that. sand I think that is why the market for old
vintage high end equipment is alive.

"And the posting address is ntlworld, which is a UK ISP ... "

I do not see any of that here. I can't even see your email address or
anyone else's. SOMETIMES when I reply it shows up in the quoted text, but
most of the time not. It will not give me any information.

It is probably because of Google, and them not wanting to be accused of
fomenting spam for Usenet users becasue it would look bad.

Ah. So you're not accessing the group via a dedicated news client ? All the
proper ones that I've ever used, display the poster's details in the
displayed header. Interestingly, my news client is showing this reply of
yours as having come from Gareth, which of course, it hasn't. Presumably,
this is a foible of Goggle providing the front-end user interface ??

Arfa

The clue was here:

Phoned RCF UK today, and they want Ł320 odd or so, probably plus 20% tax
and
2 lots of shipping, to repair the unit, as it is out of warranty.



Gareth.