Rant - why is it so hard?...

[Sylvia Else]

On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It even
comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two extension
bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the two really
nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things) about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home. It
was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy to
leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the system
just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and very
well during the day. IR sensitive.

It\'s not immediately apparent whether any part of it works without
access so a specific set of internet servers. Depending on the continued
existence of a company to fund the servers doesn\'t give me comfort.

Sylvia.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It even
comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two extension
bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the two really
nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things) about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home. It
was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy to
leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the system
just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and very
well during the day. IR sensitive.

It\'s not immediately apparent whether any part of it works without
access so a specific set of internet servers. Depending on the continued
existence of a company to fund the servers doesn\'t give me comfort.

Sylvia.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It even
comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two extension
bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the two really
nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things) about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home. It
was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy to
leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the system
just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and very
well during the day. IR sensitive.

It\'s not immediately apparent whether any part of it works without
access so a specific set of internet servers. Depending on the continued
existence of a company to fund the servers doesn\'t give me comfort.

Sylvia.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 6/09/2021 7:01 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


It\'s not immediately apparent whether any part of it works without
access so a specific set of internet servers. Depending on the continued
existence of a company to fund the servers doesn\'t give me comfort.

Sylvia.

**I already explained that all it wants to see is a wi-fi network. It
can be disconnected from the internet (which mine has once or twice) and
it works just fine. The only time it needs to be connected to the
internet, is if you want to use the (pay as you go) feature of storing
video on the company\'s server. Which I don\'t.

IOW: It doesn\'t matter if the company goes belly-up tomorrow. My
doorbell will work just fine.

When Bunnings opens up, go and have a look at one. Pretty nifty thing
and it neatly addresses ALL your problems. The thing is waterproof and
quite nicely constructed.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 6/09/2021 7:01 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


It\'s not immediately apparent whether any part of it works without
access so a specific set of internet servers. Depending on the continued
existence of a company to fund the servers doesn\'t give me comfort.

Sylvia.

**I already explained that all it wants to see is a wi-fi network. It
can be disconnected from the internet (which mine has once or twice) and
it works just fine. The only time it needs to be connected to the
internet, is if you want to use the (pay as you go) feature of storing
video on the company\'s server. Which I don\'t.

IOW: It doesn\'t matter if the company goes belly-up tomorrow. My
doorbell will work just fine.

When Bunnings opens up, go and have a look at one. Pretty nifty thing
and it neatly addresses ALL your problems. The thing is waterproof and
quite nicely constructed.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 6/09/2021 7:01 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


It\'s not immediately apparent whether any part of it works without
access so a specific set of internet servers. Depending on the continued
existence of a company to fund the servers doesn\'t give me comfort.

Sylvia.

**I already explained that all it wants to see is a wi-fi network. It
can be disconnected from the internet (which mine has once or twice) and
it works just fine. The only time it needs to be connected to the
internet, is if you want to use the (pay as you go) feature of storing
video on the company\'s server. Which I don\'t.

IOW: It doesn\'t matter if the company goes belly-up tomorrow. My
doorbell will work just fine.

When Bunnings opens up, go and have a look at one. Pretty nifty thing
and it neatly addresses ALL your problems. The thing is waterproof and
quite nicely constructed.

 

[Daniel65]

Sylvia Else wrote on 6/9/21 3:12 pm:

On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


I\'m thinking of sourcing one of these:

https://www.digikey.com.au/en/products/detail/ATP16-SL1-612-M4SA-04G/CKN12300-ND/10059238


and installing it in a 3D-printed housing.

Sylvia.


I wouldn\'t be holding my breath waiting for delivery!! ;-P

Manufacturer Standard Lead Time 13 Weeks
--
Daniel

 

[Daniel65]

Sylvia Else wrote on 6/9/21 3:12 pm:

On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


I\'m thinking of sourcing one of these:

https://www.digikey.com.au/en/products/detail/ATP16-SL1-612-M4SA-04G/CKN12300-ND/10059238


and installing it in a 3D-printed housing.

Sylvia.


I wouldn\'t be holding my breath waiting for delivery!! ;-P

Manufacturer Standard Lead Time 13 Weeks
--
Daniel

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 6/09/2021 7:01 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


It\'s not immediately apparent whether any part of it works without
access so a specific set of internet servers. Depending on the continued
existence of a company to fund the servers doesn\'t give me comfort.

Sylvia.

**I already explained that all it wants to see is a wi-fi network. It
can be disconnected from the internet (which mine has once or twice) and
it works just fine. The only time it needs to be connected to the
internet, is if you want to use the (pay as you go) feature of storing
video on the company\'s server. Which I don\'t.

IOW: It doesn\'t matter if the company goes belly-up tomorrow. My
doorbell will work just fine.

When Bunnings opens up, go and have a look at one. Pretty nifty thing
and it neatly addresses ALL your problems. The thing is waterproof and
quite nicely constructed.

 

[Colin Earl]

On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:55:26 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Sylvia Else wrote on 6/9/21 3:12 pm:
On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


I\'m thinking of sourcing one of these:

https://www.digikey.com.au/en/products/detail/ATP16-SL1-612-M4SA-04G/CKN12300-ND/10059238


and installing it in a 3D-printed housing.

Sylvia.


I wouldn\'t be holding my breath waiting for delivery!! ;-P

Manufacturer Standard Lead Time 13 Weeks

That\'s only after the 53 in stock (at time of writing) are sold.

Buy today, should have it next week.

 

[Colin Earl]

On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:55:26 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Sylvia Else wrote on 6/9/21 3:12 pm:
On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


I\'m thinking of sourcing one of these:

https://www.digikey.com.au/en/products/detail/ATP16-SL1-612-M4SA-04G/CKN12300-ND/10059238


and installing it in a 3D-printed housing.

Sylvia.


I wouldn\'t be holding my breath waiting for delivery!! ;-P

Manufacturer Standard Lead Time 13 Weeks

That\'s only after the 53 in stock (at time of writing) are sold.

Buy today, should have it next week.

 

[Colin Earl]

On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:55:26 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Sylvia Else wrote on 6/9/21 3:12 pm:
On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


I\'m thinking of sourcing one of these:

https://www.digikey.com.au/en/products/detail/ATP16-SL1-612-M4SA-04G/CKN12300-ND/10059238


and installing it in a 3D-printed housing.

Sylvia.


I wouldn\'t be holding my breath waiting for delivery!! ;-P

Manufacturer Standard Lead Time 13 Weeks

That\'s only after the 53 in stock (at time of writing) are sold.

Buy today, should have it next week.

 

[Colin Earl]

On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:55:26 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Sylvia Else wrote on 6/9/21 3:12 pm:
On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


I\'m thinking of sourcing one of these:

https://www.digikey.com.au/en/products/detail/ATP16-SL1-612-M4SA-04G/CKN12300-ND/10059238


and installing it in a 3D-printed housing.

Sylvia.


I wouldn\'t be holding my breath waiting for delivery!! ;-P

Manufacturer Standard Lead Time 13 Weeks

That\'s only after the 53 in stock (at time of writing) are sold.

Buy today, should have it next week.

 

[noel]

On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 18:31:51 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 6/09/2021 3:55 pm, noel wrote:
On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 14:31:29 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.

ring, last time I looked they are only subscription based so I\'d avoid,
unless they\'ve woken up to that flaw


**They are subscription based IF you want to save a video recording to
the cloud. I have no interest in that. I paid for the doorbell and there
is nothing else to pay. If I could be bothered, I could probably figure
out how to save video to my computer, or tablet. But I can\'t. So,
there\'s that.

Yes, saving video is almost essential for \"most\" people with these
things, wonder if they now support onvif, I might have to give em another
look, though I use amcrest and are pretty happy, but always out for new
things

 

[noel]

On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 18:31:51 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 6/09/2021 3:55 pm, noel wrote:
On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 14:31:29 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.

ring, last time I looked they are only subscription based so I\'d avoid,
unless they\'ve woken up to that flaw


**They are subscription based IF you want to save a video recording to
the cloud. I have no interest in that. I paid for the doorbell and there
is nothing else to pay. If I could be bothered, I could probably figure
out how to save video to my computer, or tablet. But I can\'t. So,
there\'s that.

Yes, saving video is almost essential for \"most\" people with these
things, wonder if they now support onvif, I might have to give em another
look, though I use amcrest and are pretty happy, but always out for new
things

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 6/09/2021 9:28 pm, Colin Earl wrote:

On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:55:26 +1000, Daniel65
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Sylvia Else wrote on 6/9/21 3:12 pm:
On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


I\'m thinking of sourcing one of these:

https://www.digikey.com.au/en/products/detail/ATP16-SL1-612-M4SA-04G/CKN12300-ND/10059238


and installing it in a 3D-printed housing.

Sylvia.


I wouldn\'t be holding my breath waiting for delivery!! ;-P

Manufacturer Standard Lead Time 13 Weeks

That\'s only after the 53 in stock (at time of writing) are sold.

Buy today, should have it next week.

**Or buy something locally and have it on the doorstep in 24 hours:

https://au.rs-online.com/web/p/push-button-switches/6903255/

I still reckon the Ring product will solve ALL Sylvia\'s problems. A
button will not.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 6/09/2021 9:28 pm, Colin Earl wrote:

On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:55:26 +1000, Daniel65
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Sylvia Else wrote on 6/9/21 3:12 pm:
On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


I\'m thinking of sourcing one of these:

https://www.digikey.com.au/en/products/detail/ATP16-SL1-612-M4SA-04G/CKN12300-ND/10059238


and installing it in a 3D-printed housing.

Sylvia.


I wouldn\'t be holding my breath waiting for delivery!! ;-P

Manufacturer Standard Lead Time 13 Weeks

That\'s only after the 53 in stock (at time of writing) are sold.

Buy today, should have it next week.

**Or buy something locally and have it on the doorstep in 24 hours:

https://au.rs-online.com/web/p/push-button-switches/6903255/

I still reckon the Ring product will solve ALL Sylvia\'s problems. A
button will not.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 6/09/2021 9:28 pm, Colin Earl wrote:

On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:55:26 +1000, Daniel65
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Sylvia Else wrote on 6/9/21 3:12 pm:
On 06-Sep-21 2:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/09/2021 12:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
My house didn\'t have a door bell when I moved in, and people just
knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed
delivery attempts. After I\'d installed a surveillance camera, it
showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the
guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not
loud enough.

So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.

Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on
position. Apparently, the bell push wasn\'t designed with delivery
drivers in mind.

Why is this so hard?

**It\'s not. After trying several different doorbell solutions, I found
this:

https://ring.com/au/en/products/video-doorbell-with-chime-pro-gen2

It is fucking brilliant. Quality is excellent. Easy to install. It
even comes with a teeny tiny spirit level. I ordered mine with two
extension bells (one in the house and one in the workshop). Here\'s the
two really nice things (and a whole bunch of regular nice things)
about the system:

* You connect it to your home wi-fi network and it can \'talk\' to your
cell phone or tablet anywhere on the planet.
* The camera senses movement, day or night, and announces visitors at
around 5 ~ 6 Metres, BEFORE the button is pushed. Last time I was in
Newcastle I spoke to a mate who popped around unannounced to my home.
It was pretty cool. You could, for instance, instruct the delivery guy
to leave the parcel, via the speaker in the doorbell.

I wired mine into a full time supply, so I don\'t rely on the allegedly
long pasting internal battery. Instructions are excellent and the
system just works flawlessly. The camera works quite well at night and
very well during the day. IR sensitive.


I\'m thinking of sourcing one of these:

https://www.digikey.com.au/en/products/detail/ATP16-SL1-612-M4SA-04G/CKN12300-ND/10059238


and installing it in a 3D-printed housing.

Sylvia.


I wouldn\'t be holding my breath waiting for delivery!! ;-P

Manufacturer Standard Lead Time 13 Weeks

That\'s only after the 53 in stock (at time of writing) are sold.

Buy today, should have it next week.

**Or buy something locally and have it on the doorstep in 24 hours:

https://au.rs-online.com/web/p/push-button-switches/6903255/

I still reckon the Ring product will solve ALL Sylvia\'s problems. A
button will not.

 

[Phil Allison]

Trevor Wilson wrote:
=================

I still reckon the Ring product will solve ALL Sylvia\'s problems.

** You are kidding ?

The Sylvia troll is beyond help.


....... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

Trevor Wilson wrote:
=================

I still reckon the Ring product will solve ALL Sylvia\'s problems.

** You are kidding ?

The Sylvia troll is beyond help.


....... Phil