Questions about simple power supply

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:25:36 -0800, Peter Bennett
<peterbb@nowhere.invalid> wrote:


You won't find ceramic capacitors much over 1 uF.
http://www.digikey.com/mkt/newt032/panasonic/ABJ0000CE4.pdf

Panasonic ECJ5YF0J107Z, 100ľF 6.3VDC !

--
John Fields
 
"Harry Muscle" <fake@AT@e-mail.com> wrote in message
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What kind of cap and what value should I use to smooth out the DC
before I feed it to the regulator (LM 340T12)? Is there a formula for
this
cap value? Is anything else required?

The "finger-in-air" figure I have used for many years is "2000uF per amp".
So, if you need only 100mA, use 200uF, and then put it into your regulator.
Remember to rate the voltage high-enough (eg 24v ac transformer often gives
about 30v under low load, multiply by 1.4 (if using full bridge rectifier)
so I'd select 50V working).


Paul
 
Paul Blitz wrote:

"Harry Muscle" <fake@AT@e-mail.com> wrote in message
news:3fde16cb$1_1@corp.newsgroups.com...
What kind of cap and what value should I use to smooth out the DC
before I feed it to the regulator (LM 340T12)? Is there a formula for
this
cap value? Is anything else required?


The "finger-in-air" figure I have used for many years is "2000uF per amp".
So, if you need only 100mA, use 200uF, and then put it into your
regulator. Remember to rate the voltage high-enough (eg 24v ac transformer
often gives about 30v under low load, multiply by 1.4 (if using full
bridge rectifier) so I'd select 50V working).
I use the good old formula C * dV = I * dt

Where C is the smoothing capacitance, dV is the desired ripple voltage (peak
to peak), I is the desired load current and dt is 5mS for full wave
recification.

IAn
 
"Ian Bell" <ian@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Paul Blitz wrote:


"Harry Muscle" <fake@AT@e-mail.com> wrote in message
news:3fde16cb$1_1@corp.newsgroups.com...
What kind of cap and what value should I use to smooth out the DC
before I feed it to the regulator (LM 340T12)? Is there a formula for
this
cap value? Is anything else required?


The "finger-in-air" figure I have used for many years is "2000uF per
amp".
So, if you need only 100mA, use 200uF, and then put it into your
regulator. Remember to rate the vol high-enough (eg 24v ac
transformer
often gives about 30v under low load, multiply by 1.4 (if using full
bridge rectifier) so I'd select 50V working).


I use the good old formula C * dV = I * dt

Where C is the smoothing capacitance, dV is the desired ripple
( ak
to peak), I is the desired load current and dt is 5mS for full wave
recification.

IAn
Thanks, that means that if I want a ripple of no more than 10V, current of
0.5A I would have:

C*10 = 0.5 * 0.005
C*10 = 0.0025
C = 0.00025
or C = 250uF

Is that correct?

Thanks,
Harry




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Harry Muscle wrote:

"Ian Bell" <ian@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:bs80be$13p$1@news.ukfsn.org...
Paul Blitz wrote:


"Harry Muscle" <fake@AT@e-mail.com> wrote in message
news:3fde16cb$1_1@corp.newsgroups.com...
What kind of cap and what value should I use to smooth out the DC
before I feed it to the regulator (LM 340T12)? Is there a formula for
this
cap value? Is anything else required?


The "finger-in-air" figure I have used for many years is "2000uF per
amp".
So, if you need only 100mA, use 200uF, and then put it into your
regulator. Remember to rate the vol high-enough (eg 24v ac
transformer
often gives about 30v under low load, multiply by 1.4 (if using full
bridge rectifier) so I'd select 50V working).


I use the good old formula C * dV = I * dt

Where C is the smoothing capacitance, dV is the desired ripple
( ak
to peak), I is the desired load current and dt is 5mS for full wave
recification.

IAn


Thanks, that means that if I want a ripple of no more than 10V, current of
0.5A I would have:

C*10 = 0.5 * 0.005
C*10 = 0.0025
C = 0.00025
or C = 250uF

Is that correct?

Thanks,
Harry
Looks OK to me. Remember the bottom of the ripple needs to be comfortably
above the minimum input to the regulator. Personaly I would have thought
10V ripple a bit high.
 
Harry Muscle wrote:

Thanks, that means that if I want a ripple of no more than 10V, current of
0.5A I would have:

C*10 = 0.5 * 0.005
C*10 = 0.0025
C = 0.00025
or C = 250uF

Is that correct?
You also have to have a capacitor with a ripple current rating that is
bigger than the actual ripple current, or it will overheat. Larger
caps generally have a higher ripple current rating, so you may have to
go up a bit just to get within this rating.
--
John Popelish
 

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