Questions about dimagnetic -- *not* diAmagnetic -- strength

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Green Xenon [Radium]

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Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a
material can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a
material can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic strength
measured in? MA/m?


Thanks,

Radium
 
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:26:26 -0800, "Green Xenon [Radium]"
<glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:

Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a
material can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a
material can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic strength
measured in? MA/m?


Thanks,

Radium
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Get some books and try to understand reality. Your questions don't
even make sense.

John
 
John Larkin wrote:
"
glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:


Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a
material can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a
material can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic strength
measured in? MA/m?


Thanks,

Radium
Click to expand...



Get some books and try to understand reality. Your questions don't
even make sense.
Click to expand...

Please explain how "dimagnetic strength" and "dimagnetic breakdown"
don't make sense.
 
Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:26:26 -0800, "Green Xenon [Radium]"
glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:


Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a
material can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a
material can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating
properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic strength
measured in? MA/m?


Thanks,

Radium





Get some books and try to understand reality. Your questions don't
even make sense.



Please explain how "dimagnetic strength" and "dimagnetic breakdown"
don't make sense.
I think if you were talking about "Diamagnetic Strength" , You may get
Click to expand...
more responses.


--
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
 
Dear Green Xenon [Radium]:

"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote in message
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John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:26:26 -0800, "Green Xenon [Radium]"
glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:


Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field
strength that a material can withstand without
breaking down
Click to expand...
Breakdown allows current to flow.

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic
field strength that a material can withstand
without breaking down
Click to expand...
Please define "break down" in this context. Magnetism "here" can
be the result of current flow elsewhere. Since something here
cannot stop charge movement elsewhere, you have to tell us what
you imagine is flowing to "break down".

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to
lose its insulating properties.
Click to expand...
Not for air or water, after a few minutes.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?
Click to expand...
You will have to tell us.

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m.
What is dimagnetic strength measured in?
MA/m?
Click to expand...
You will have to tell us what your current cocaine dream is, so
that units can be applied to your imagined mechanism.

Get some books and try to understand reality.
Your questions don't even make sense.

Please explain how "dimagnetic strength" and
"dimagnetic breakdown" don't make sense.
Click to expand...
Because nothing necessarily ever moves locally, and "magnetic
shielding" really only serves to divert magnetic fields, not
prevent them from forming. So your random word salad does not
correspond to reality in *this* Universe. So when you check back
in with headquarters in the parallel Universe you are from, you
could ask them.

David A. Smith
 
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:38:10 -0500, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:26:26 -0800, "Green Xenon [Radium]"
glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:


Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a
material can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a
material can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating
properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic strength
measured in? MA/m?


Thanks,

Radium





Get some books and try to understand reality. Your questions don't
even make sense.



Please explain how "dimagnetic strength" and "dimagnetic breakdown"
don't make sense.

I think if you were talking about "Diamagnetic Strength" , You may get
more responses.
Click to expand...
That term pops up if you google it, but it means something else.

Radium is, as usual, confused and unwilling to get unconfused.

John
 
"Green Xenon [Radium]" wrote:
Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a
material can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a
material can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic strength
measured in? MA/m?
Click to expand...
The vacuum goes dichroic around 100X the magnetic field of a
magnetar. That would be around 10^18 teslas. Ask a Head Start
dropout to do unit conversions for you. As for diddling matter, look
up the estimated magnetic field for stabilizing monoatomic hydrogen as
a triplet against dimerization to the singlet.

Now that you have something you cannot possibly make sense of, what
will you do with it?

Idiot.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
 
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"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote in message
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Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a material
can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a material
can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating
properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic strength
measured in? MA/m?


Thanks,

Radium
Click to expand...
You are talking about some breakdown in magnetic materials corresponding to
breakdown in insulators. However you are trying to draw parallels where they
don't exist. Any applied H (amp-turns/meter) will cause some flux or change
in flux. On that basis the "dimagnetic strength" that you have defined is
universally 0 and universally meaningless.

I have reached the same point as others regarding your conjectures- the
asinity is becoming boring and the aversion to actually putting in some
effort to learn is apparently based on a desire to make a virtue out of
ignorance. At least a South Seas Islander can cope with the theory, if not
the practice, of makin snowballs. You have not shown signs of being able to
get that far.

Bye,
--

Don Kelly dhky@shawcross.ca
remove the X to answer
 
On Nov 26, 12:20 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:

The vacuum goes dichroic around 100X the magnetic field of a
magnetar. That would be around 10^18 teslas. Ask a Head Start
dropout to do unit conversions for you. As for diddling matter, look
up the estimated magnetic field for stabilizing monoatomic hydrogen as
a triplet against dimerization to the singlet.

Now that you have something you cannot possibly make sense of, what
will you do with it?

Idiot.
Click to expand...
So you say magnetic breakdown causes vacuum dichroism? But what if
you had say one atom of material hit by one photon ins a 10^18 Tesla
field. Would dimagnetic breakdown still occur?

Uncle Al, Radium wants to have your love child!
 
On Nov 26, 7:01 pm, "Don Kelly" <d...@shaw.ca> wrote:
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"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com> wrote in messagenews:474a1171$0$2336$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...



Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a material
can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a material
can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating
properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic strength
measured in? MA/m?

You are talking about some breakdown in magnetic materials corresponding to
breakdown in insulators. However you are trying to draw parallels where they
don't exist. Any applied H (amp-turns/meter) will cause some flux or change
in flux. On that basis the "dimagnetic strength" that you have defined is
universally 0 and universally meaningless.
Click to expand...
coercivity, dolt
 
On Nov 28, 5:54 pm, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Nov 26, 7:01 pm, "Don Kelly" <d...@shaw.ca> wrote:

coercivity, dolt
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Coercivity of free space! Now that's an interesting concept. Perhaps
we can find some cosmologists willing to speculate upon it without any
real knowledge or data to go on.

However, coercivity is actually the opposite analog to electrical
breakdown!
My guess is pseudo vectors are involved somehow...
 
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:54:18 -0800 (PST), "Autymn D. C."
<lysdexia@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Nov 26, 7:01 pm, "Don Kelly" <d...@shaw.ca> wrote:
----------------------------
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com> wrote in messagenews:474a1171$0$2336$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...



Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a material
can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a material
can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating
properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic strength
measured in? MA/m?

You are talking about some breakdown in magnetic materials corresponding to
breakdown in insulators. However you are trying to draw parallels where they
don't exist. Any applied H (amp-turns/meter) will cause some flux or change
in flux. On that basis the "dimagnetic strength" that you have defined is
universally 0 and universally meaningless.

coercivity, dolt
Click to expand...
---
Nope, dope.

While (with some exceptions) dielectric breakdown causes an
insulator to irreversibly lose its properties as an insulator, (like
you can't uncook an egg) if an adequately intense magnetic field is
used to overcome the coercivity of a magnet, all that's needed to
turn it into a magnet again is to remagnetize it.

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercivity


--
JF
 
On Nov 28, 4:27 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:54:18 -0800 (PST), "Autymn D. C."



lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Nov 26, 7:01 pm, "Don Kelly" <d...@shaw.ca> wrote:
----------------------------
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com> wrote in messagenews:474a1171$0$2336$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a material
can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a material
can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating
properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic strength
measured in? MA/m?

You are talking about some breakdown in magnetic materials corresponding to
breakdown in insulators. However you are trying to draw parallels where they
don't exist. Any applied H (amp-turns/meter) will cause some flux or change
in flux. On that basis the "dimagnetic strength" that you have defined is
universally 0 and universally meaningless.

coercivity, dolt

Nope, dope.

While (with some exceptions) dielectric breakdown causes an
insulator to irreversibly lose its properties as an insulator, (like
you can't uncook an egg) if an adequately intense magnetic field is
used to overcome the coercivity of a magnet, all that's needed to
turn it into a magnet again is to remagnetize it.

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercivity
Click to expand...
There's no such claim there, cretin John: http://google.com/groups?q=Autymn+folks-whose-name.

Condensed materials' fases (That's "fases", in Hellčnic, not "fezys".)
are very structurally-sensitive, and can easily transition between
ferromagnetism and ferri- or antiferro- without tiht control of
species' ratios at fabrication. So such a magnetic zap /could/
disrupt a magnet's domains such thas its atoms realign intom
uselesness.

-Aut
 
On Nov 29, 8:26 pm, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Condensed materials' fases (That's "fases", in Hellčnic, not "fezys".)
are very structurally-sensitive, and can easily transition between
ferromagnetism and ferri- or antiferro- without tiht control of
species' ratios at fabrication. So such a magnetic zap /could/
disrupt a magnet's domains such thas its atoms realign intom
uselesness.
Click to expand...
Still backwards, you whit!

dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to loose its ^H^H^H it's
resistive properties.
dimagnetic breakdown would cause space to lose all reluctance.
 
On Nov 29, 9:40 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:26 pm, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Condensed materials' fases (That's "fases", in Hellčnic, not "fezys".)
are very structurally-sensitive, and can easily transition between
ferromagnetism and ferri- or antiferro- without tiht control of
species' ratios at fabrication. So such a magnetic zap /could/
disrupt a magnet's domains such thas its atoms realign intom
uselesness.

Still backwards, you whit!

dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to loose its ^H^H^H it's
resistive properties.
dimagnetic breakdown would cause space to lose all reluctance.
Click to expand...
di- -> dia-
not /all/
 
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:26:27 -0800 (PST), "Autymn D. C."
<lysdexia@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Nov 28, 4:27 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:54:18 -0800 (PST), "Autymn D. C."



lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Nov 26, 7:01 pm, "Don Kelly" <d...@shaw.ca> wrote:
----------------------------
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com> wrote in messagenews:474a1171$0$2336$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a material
can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a material
can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating
properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic strength
measured in? MA/m?

You are talking about some breakdown in magnetic materials corresponding to
breakdown in insulators. However you are trying to draw parallels where they
don't exist. Any applied H (amp-turns/meter) will cause some flux or change
in flux. On that basis the "dimagnetic strength" that you have defined is
universally 0 and universally meaningless.

coercivity, dolt

Nope, dope.

While (with some exceptions) dielectric breakdown causes an
insulator to irreversibly lose its properties as an insulator, (like
you can't uncook an egg) if an adequately intense magnetic field is
used to overcome the coercivity of a magnet, all that's needed to
turn it into a magnet again is to remagnetize it.

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercivity

There's no such claim there, cretin John: http://google.com/groups?q=Autymn+folks-whose-name.
Click to expand...
---
Learn to read.
---
Condensed materials' fases (That's "fases", in Hellčnic, not "fezys".)
are very structurally-sensitive, and can easily transition between
ferromagnetism and ferri- or antiferro- without tiht control of
species' ratios at fabrication. So such a magnetic zap /could/
disrupt a magnet's domains such thas its atoms realign intom
uselesness.
Click to expand...
---
Learn to write.


--
JF
 
On Nov 30, 4:16 am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

di- -> dia-
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Go tell it to Radium!

not /all/
Click to expand...
"breakdown" is a "short" so you tell me how much of /all/ a magnetic
"short" is.
For that matter you tell me just WHAT a "magentic short" is?
 
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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:26:27 -0800 (PST), "Autymn D. C."
lysdexia@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Nov 28, 4:27 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:54:18 -0800 (PST), "Autymn D. C."



lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Nov 26, 7:01 pm, "Don Kelly" <d...@shaw.ca> wrote:
----------------------------
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com> wrote in
messagenews:474a1171$0$2336$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a
material
can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a
material
can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating
properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic
strength
measured in? MA/m?

You are talking about some breakdown in magnetic materials
corresponding to
breakdown in insulators. However you are trying to draw parallels
where they
don't exist. Any applied H (amp-turns/meter) will cause some flux or
change
in flux. On that basis the "dimagnetic strength" that you have
defined is
universally 0 and universally meaningless.

coercivity, dolt

Nope, dope.

While (with some exceptions) dielectric breakdown causes an
insulator to irreversibly lose its properties as an insulator, (like
you can't uncook an egg) if an adequately intense magnetic field is
used to overcome the coercivity of a magnet, all that's needed to
turn it into a magnet again is to remagnetize it.

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercivity

There's no such claim there, cretin John:
http://google.com/groups?q=Autymn+folks-whose-name.

---
Learn to read.
---

Condensed materials' fases (That's "fases", in Hellčnic, not "fezys".)
are very structurally-sensitive, and can easily transition between
ferromagnetism and ferri- or antiferro- without tiht control of
species' ratios at fabrication. So such a magnetic zap /could/
disrupt a magnet's domains such thas its atoms realign intom
uselesness.

---
Learn to write.


--
JF
-----------
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No use arguing with Autymn - he is a legend in his own mind. Note that he is
usually self referent on the basis that since he said it, it is credible
and everyone else must be stupid because they don't accept his statements.
As to the language- it is hard to tell whether it is intentional obscurity
or simply an asinine personal hangup. Note also that he is always willing to
call others stupid- is it to bolster his own ego.


--

Don Kelly dhky@shawcross.ca
remove the X to answer
 
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:02:42 GMT, "Don Kelly" <dhky@shaw.ca> wrote:

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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:26:27 -0800 (PST), "Autymn D. C."
lysdexia@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Nov 28, 4:27 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:54:18 -0800 (PST), "Autymn D. C."



lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Nov 26, 7:01 pm, "Don Kelly" <d...@shaw.ca> wrote:
----------------------------
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com> wrote in
messagenews:474a1171$0$2336$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

Hi:

Dielectric strength = the maximum electric field strength that a
material
can withstand without breaking down

Dimagnetic strength = the maximum magnetic field strength that a
material
can withstand without breaking down

Dielectric breakdown causes an insulator to lose its insulating
properties.

What would dimagnetic breakdown cause?

Dielectric strength is measured in MV/m. What is dimagnetic
strength
measured in? MA/m?

You are talking about some breakdown in magnetic materials
corresponding to
breakdown in insulators. However you are trying to draw parallels
where they
don't exist. Any applied H (amp-turns/meter) will cause some flux or
change
in flux. On that basis the "dimagnetic strength" that you have
defined is
universally 0 and universally meaningless.

coercivity, dolt

Nope, dope.

While (with some exceptions) dielectric breakdown causes an
insulator to irreversibly lose its properties as an insulator, (like
you can't uncook an egg) if an adequately intense magnetic field is
used to overcome the coercivity of a magnet, all that's needed to
turn it into a magnet again is to remagnetize it.

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercivity

There's no such claim there, cretin John:
http://google.com/groups?q=Autymn+folks-whose-name.

---
Learn to read.
---

Condensed materials' fases (That's "fases", in Hellčnic, not "fezys".)
are very structurally-sensitive, and can easily transition between
ferromagnetism and ferri- or antiferro- without tiht control of
species' ratios at fabrication. So such a magnetic zap /could/
disrupt a magnet's domains such thas its atoms realign intom
uselesness.

---
Learn to write.


--
JF
-----------
No use arguing with Autymn - he is a legend in his own mind.
Click to expand...
---
She, I believe.
---

Note that he is
usually self referent on the basis that since he said it, it is credible
and everyone else must be stupid because they don't accept his statements.
As to the language- it is hard to tell whether it is intentional obscurity
or simply an asinine personal hangup. Note also that he is always willing to
call others stupid- is it to bolster his own ego.
Click to expand...
---
Probably.



--
JF
 
On Dec 3, 9:21 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 17:46:09 -0800 (PST), "Autymn D. C."
lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Nov 30, 6:26 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
Learn to read.

Learn to write.

You. I can read and write English,

You might like to think you can but, at best, your English is clumsy
and is cluttered with constructs which you think should be English,
but aren't.
Click to expand...
where? It's not clumsier than what everyone uses.

Latin, Witalian, Francish,
Spannish, Thewdish, Hellčnic, Russcij, and some Hibiru. You onely
read and write muttish.

In American English, your "Spannish" is spelled "Spanish", pero sin
tu eres una piruja la unica cosa que te interesa es pelear, no?
Click to expand...
In other words, in American muttish, what ye spell and what ye speak
isn't the same. It's not my fault.
 
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