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Eeyore
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
Graham
And how will 'maintence' corrupt the FMC/FMS ?
Graham
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Eeyore
Guest
Trevor Wilson wrote:
it's virtually a dead cert it's not that.
EMC is a REAL issue.
Graham
I know that but ordinary maintenance won't affect the integrity of the flight computers. Hence
it's virtually a dead cert it's not that.
EMC is a REAL issue.
Graham
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Eeyore
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TomTom wrote:
Graham
Why will they never learn ?
Graham
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Eeyore
Guest
Davo wrote:
won't open at any decent altitude.
Graham
Wouldn't help. They can't get out any faster than you can and plug doors in a presurised cabin
won't open at any decent altitude.
Graham
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Eeyore
Guest
Don McKenzie wrote:
Graham
What's the betting is was some cheap Chinese laptop that's never passed any EMC tests ?
Graham
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Eeyore
Guest
TT wrote:
restricted bandwidth for which effective EMC precautions can be taken, i.e. purpose designed
for the job.
Graham
That system has been specially designed to operate at very low power. Plus it's in a
restricted bandwidth for which effective EMC precautions can be taken, i.e. purpose designed
for the job.
Graham
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Eeyore
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TT wrote:
Graham
Prove it. What's your qualification in electro-magnetic compatability btw ?
No, because they are purpose designed not to you clown !
Graham
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terryc
Guest
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:34:21 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
invesigate and refine the maintenance schedule.
system. Ask anyone who used a computer proggie based on OO principles.
Pigs. That attitude seems to be behind a lot of crashes/mishaps, then they
invesigate and refine the maintenance schedule.
I'll chase EMC a millin years after I stop testing the flight computer
system. Ask anyone who used a computer proggie based on OO principles.
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David L. Jones
Guest
On Oct 9, 11:33 pm, "TT" <TTencerNoS...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
public buildings as well.
If you have a flat battery then you ain't getting through.
Interestingly though, the smaller the notebook the less they care.
I took a tiny Fuji sub-notebook through 15 airports on a trip once and
if memory serves me correctly I only got stopped once. I took it out
the first few times but learned to not bother when they said it wasn't
a notebook almost every time.
I guess they are trained to think notebook=big.
tiny complementary bottles I forgot was in there. It was picked up by
the XRAY machine, but I've never been busted with large *empty*
bottles which I fill up on the other side.
Dave.
I've had to do this in the US before, and not just for airplanes but
public buildings as well.
If you have a flat battery then you ain't getting through.
Interestingly though, the smaller the notebook the less they care.
I took a tiny Fuji sub-notebook through 15 airports on a trip once and
if memory serves me correctly I only got stopped once. I took it out
the first few times but learned to not bother when they said it wasn't
a notebook almost every time.
I guess they are trained to think notebook=big.
I've been busted with water before at Sydney airport, one of thoseTalk about congestion then! All these people at the end of the queue
waiting while these bloody things shut down again. Oh and putting their
shoes and socks back on, and putting their mobile phones away etc, etc
:-( I felt very safe though
BTW it was my daughter's laptop that was checked and my bag had in it
rechargers, mobile phone, cameras x 2, wallet, hat, sunnies, pens, note
books, Creative Zen Touch, Sensheiser noise cancelling headphones etc,
etc...... Oh and a 500ml bottle of water they allowed through to the plane.
tiny complementary bottles I forgot was in there. It was picked up by
the XRAY machine, but I've never been busted with large *empty*
bottles which I fill up on the other side.
Dave.
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David L. Jones
Guest
On Oct 10, 2:34 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
But isn't it strange then how millions of people use countless
different electronic items, including phones and notebooks on every
flight (how many thousands per day?), and AFAIK there hasn't been a
single incident proven to be related to use of electronic items by
passengers.
Dave.
wrote:
In theory, yes.
But isn't it strange then how millions of people use countless
different electronic items, including phones and notebooks on every
flight (how many thousands per day?), and AFAIK there hasn't been a
single incident proven to be related to use of electronic items by
passengers.
Dave.
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Alan Rutlidge
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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:48EE32CC.4A1B2EDD@hotmail.com...
The recommendation to fasten your seatbelt whilst seated is plainly printed
in the back of the tray tables in economy class.
It is also verbally communicated to passengers during the safety
demonstration before the flight takes off. Most safety cards also have this
recommendation printed on them.
The mere fact that some passengers choose to ignore this advice doesn't
surprise me at all.
I take about 5 - 6 flights per month and no matter how often the point is
raised and even if the seatbelt light is illuminated, some fuckwits just
don't get the message. This includes the situation where the aircraft has
landed and is still on the runway. The seatbelt sign is still illuminated,
but the idiot fringe still insist on getting out of their seats, getting
hand luggage out of the overhead lockers and trying to make their way down
the aisle to the exit whilst the aircraft is still moving . What macaroons!
When an incident occurs and these fuckwits get injured, they are the first
to go screaming to the media and getting on their mobile phones calling
their lawyers to arrange a compensation claim.
Safety procedures are in place to ensure the safety of ALL passengers and
crew on an aircraft. It only takes a handful of people not prepared to
participate in applying those procedures to compromise the safety of others.
news:48EE32CC.4A1B2EDD@hotmail.com...
Exactly!
The recommendation to fasten your seatbelt whilst seated is plainly printed
in the back of the tray tables in economy class.
It is also verbally communicated to passengers during the safety
demonstration before the flight takes off. Most safety cards also have this
recommendation printed on them.
The mere fact that some passengers choose to ignore this advice doesn't
surprise me at all.
I take about 5 - 6 flights per month and no matter how often the point is
raised and even if the seatbelt light is illuminated, some fuckwits just
don't get the message. This includes the situation where the aircraft has
landed and is still on the runway. The seatbelt sign is still illuminated,
but the idiot fringe still insist on getting out of their seats, getting
hand luggage out of the overhead lockers and trying to make their way down
the aisle to the exit whilst the aircraft is still moving . What macaroons!
When an incident occurs and these fuckwits get injured, they are the first
to go screaming to the media and getting on their mobile phones calling
their lawyers to arrange a compensation claim.
Safety procedures are in place to ensure the safety of ALL passengers and
crew on an aircraft. It only takes a handful of people not prepared to
participate in applying those procedures to compromise the safety of others.
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Alan Rutlidge
Guest
"TT" <TTencerNoSpAm@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:q8GdnSDhRoeklXPVnZ2dnUVZ8hednZ2d@westnet.com.au...
anywhere else for that matter?
news:q8GdnSDhRoeklXPVnZ2dnUVZ8hednZ2d@westnet.com.au...
Face it TT. Would anyone be game enough to pick on you, at an airport or"John Tserkezis" <jt@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote in message
news:48edc9b1$0$18426$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
I've always wondered why they want me to take out the laptop itself,
when I have a huge array of other electronic shit in the bag too.
I have just come back from Europe and at Istanbul airport for the first
time ever I saw that laptops were not only scanned/checked separately
*BUT* we were made to actually turn them on to prove they were an
operational laptop! I have never seen this before.
Talk about congestion then! All these people at the end of the queue
waiting while these bloody things shut down again. Oh and putting their
shoes and socks back on, and putting their mobile phones away etc, etc
:-( I felt very safe though
BTW it was my daughter's laptop that was checked and my bag had in it
rechargers, mobile phone, cameras x 2, wallet, hat, sunnies, pens, note
books, Creative Zen Touch, Sensheiser noise cancelling headphones etc,
etc...... Oh and a 500ml bottle of water they allowed through to the
plane. Now that I thought was strange. Perhaps I just don't look like a
terrorist I guess ;-)
Cheers TT
anywhere else for that matter?
T
TT
Guest
"Alan Rutlidge" <don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au> wrote
in message
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police!
Cheers Terry
in message
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These Turks all carry sub-machine guns! And thats just the"TT" <TTencerNoSpAm@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"John Tserkezis" <jt@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid
wrote in message
news:48edc9b1$0$18426$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
I've always wondered why they want me to take out the
laptop itself, when I have a huge array of other
electronic shit in the bag too.
I have just come back from Europe and at Istanbul airport
for the first time ever I saw that laptops were not only
scanned/checked separately *BUT* we were made to actually
turn them on to prove they were an operational laptop! I
have never seen this before.
Talk about congestion then! All these people at the end
of the queue waiting while these bloody things shut down
again. Oh and putting their shoes and socks back on, and
putting their mobile phones away etc, etc :-( I felt
very safe though
BTW it was my daughter's laptop that was checked and my
bag had in it rechargers, mobile phone, cameras x 2,
wallet, hat, sunnies, pens, note books, Creative Zen
Touch, Sensheiser noise cancelling headphones etc,
etc...... Oh and a 500ml bottle of water they allowed
through to the plane. Now that I thought was strange.
Perhaps I just don't look like a terrorist I guess ;-)
Cheers TT
Face it TT. Would anyone be game enough to pick on you,
at an airport or
police!
anywhere else for that matter?
*IF* they are carrying automatic weapons then I guess so ;-)
Cheers Terry
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dmm
Guest
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:30:22 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2008/10/10/1223145623152.html
They're looking at the autopilot now.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2008/10/10/1223145623152.html
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TomTom
Guest
dmm wrote:
But they don't seem to know what it means...
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Eeyore
Guest
TomTom wrote:
Graham
That would be exactly what you'd expect if it was an EMC incident.
Graham
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David L. Jones
Guest
On Oct 9, 12:36 pm, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24499849-15306,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,26058,24499708-5014090,00.html
Perth - spooky!
Dave.
Latest:
http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24499849-15306,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,26058,24499708-5014090,00.html
Perth - spooky!
Dave.
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The Real Andy
Guest
On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 18:36:56 -0700 (PDT), "David L. Jones"
<altzone@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Qantas-mayhem-spurs-Airbus-response/0,130061733,339292651,00.htm
I like the casual response from airbus. I would not be happy of I was
pinned to the roof of an A330 and ended up with some broken bones.
<altzone@gmail.com> wrote:
But it could never be a fault of the plane:
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Qantas-mayhem-spurs-Airbus-response/0,130061733,339292651,00.htm
I like the casual response from airbus. I would not be happy of I was
pinned to the roof of an A330 and ended up with some broken bones.
B
Bob Parker
Guest
On 15/10/2008 21:34 The Real Andy wrote:
More at the ATSB site:
http://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/2008/release/2008_43.aspx
More at the ATSB site:
http://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/2008/release/2008_43.aspx
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Eeyore
Guest
"David L. Jones" wrote:
Incidentally the 'air data inertial reference unit' is also a 'computer' so
EMC issues still can't be ruled out. They've just narrowed it down. I expect
it sits in the avionics bay which is usually more or less just below the
pilots.
Graham
Your second link doesn't seem to work.
Incidentally the 'air data inertial reference unit' is also a 'computer' so
EMC issues still can't be ruled out. They've just narrowed it down. I expect
it sits in the avionics bay which is usually more or less just below the
pilots.
Graham