Guest
Yeah, that is in Switzerland or Sweden, don't remember. But they said fuck our copyright laws.
Anyway, you might be the person to answer this, this new hearing thingie, what if it was a kit ?
Yeah, that is in Switzerland or Sweden, don't remember. But they said fuck our copyright laws.
Anyway, you might be the person to answer this, this new hearing thingie, what if it was a kit ?
S
Sjouke Burry
Guest
On 05.05.19 21:35, Winfield Hill wrote:
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amdx
Guest
On 5/5/2019 1:35 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
while in my 30s. May be worth another run, now, in my 60s.
Mikek
Oh, I think I one up that, I watched 'Rumpole of the Bailey'
while in my 30s. May be worth another run, now, in my 60s.
Mikek
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Tom Gardner
Guest
On 05/05/19 19:35, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I didn't know that; I'll investigate. Thanks.
Curiously the problem I have is the opposite. I have a
cheap 8.3" 1920*1080 android tablet. Yes, I can use vnc
to legibly replicate my desktop monitor, but my fingers
don't make a good mouse! So I don't bother.
Regrettably many websites think it is a phone, which
irritates me since I want the information and resolution.
That innumeracy is rare here, so far.
An entirely different point, but over here I find "yellow
labels" very useful since they indicate food at the end of
its shelf life. Looking only for such items has two major
benefits (saving money being only a minor pleasure):
- fewer items to look at, consider, then accept/reject,
means faster shopping and fewer tedious decisions
- I look at items I would normally ignore and have pleasant
surprises; serendipity is a beautiful word and concept.
Yes to all those points.
I didn't know that; I'll investigate. Thanks.
Curiously the problem I have is the opposite. I have a
cheap 8.3" 1920*1080 android tablet. Yes, I can use vnc
to legibly replicate my desktop monitor, but my fingers
don't make a good mouse! So I don't bother.
Regrettably many websites think it is a phone, which
irritates me since I want the information and resolution.
That innumeracy is rare here, so far.
An entirely different point, but over here I find "yellow
labels" very useful since they indicate food at the end of
its shelf life. Looking only for such items has two major
benefits (saving money being only a minor pleasure):
- fewer items to look at, consider, then accept/reject,
means faster shopping and fewer tedious decisions
- I look at items I would normally ignore and have pleasant
surprises; serendipity is a beautiful word and concept.
Yes to all those points.
C
Carl
Guest
"Winfield Hill" wrote in message news:qandur025g6@drn.newsguy.com...
In the Baltimore-DC area one of the PBS over-the-air stations devotes an
entire channel to British programming. Channel 26-2, WETA-UK. All the
Foyle's War episodes, the first several years of New Tricks and Midsomer
Murders, the Benedict Cumberbatch Sherlock series, etc. They finally bought
another year of New Tricks but they keep cycling through the old ones so
there's about 2-3 years of those I haven't seen. They added a couple more
years of Midsomer Murders last year but are still short 4-5 years, so when
Netflix got them I binge watched all but 2 or 3 at my sister's house last
Christmas. I refuse to pay for TV so no cable, satellite, or streaming,
just an antenna - I'm a curmudgeon about some things and watch too much TV
as it is
.
--
Regards,
Carl Ijames
In the Baltimore-DC area one of the PBS over-the-air stations devotes an
entire channel to British programming. Channel 26-2, WETA-UK. All the
Foyle's War episodes, the first several years of New Tricks and Midsomer
Murders, the Benedict Cumberbatch Sherlock series, etc. They finally bought
another year of New Tricks but they keep cycling through the old ones so
there's about 2-3 years of those I haven't seen. They added a couple more
years of Midsomer Murders last year but are still short 4-5 years, so when
Netflix got them I binge watched all but 2 or 3 at my sister's house last
Christmas. I refuse to pay for TV so no cable, satellite, or streaming,
just an antenna - I'm a curmudgeon about some things and watch too much TV
as it is
.--
Regards,
Carl Ijames
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gray_wolf
Guest
On 5/5/2019 3:28 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
[Snip]
I live ca 5 miles from the CO and my download is 1.8MBytes/sec on a fast server.
Re: In my 25 years of Usenet and the binary groups I don't recall of
anyone having legal problems downloading questionable files. The
only two big time up-loaders I know of that were getting any attention
were Rockhound57 and one other person I can't recall. I don't think they
were ever caught.
They were posting on 'alt.binaries.e-book.technical'. Some copyright
lawyers were harassing the server owners and they just disappeared.
Something very odd about these two. They were posting these high end
big buck technical books.
Perfect scans. I would guess they were somewhere in the print
distribution chain and had access. An other odd thing was that
his posts were up for many years while the rest were deleted.
Low value posts deleted?
[Snip]
I live ca 5 miles from the CO and my download is 1.8MBytes/sec on a fast server.
Re: In my 25 years of Usenet and the binary groups I don't recall of
anyone having legal problems downloading questionable files. The
only two big time up-loaders I know of that were getting any attention
were Rockhound57 and one other person I can't recall. I don't think they
were ever caught.
They were posting on 'alt.binaries.e-book.technical'. Some copyright
lawyers were harassing the server owners and they just disappeared.
Something very odd about these two. They were posting these high end
big buck technical books.
Perfect scans. I would guess they were somewhere in the print
distribution chain and had access. An other odd thing was that
his posts were up for many years while the rest were deleted.
Low value posts deleted?
G
gray_wolf
Guest
On 5/5/2019 2:35 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
A properly setup proxy should work.
A properly setup proxy should work.
J
Jeff Liebermann
Guest
On Sun, 5 May 2019 13:36:59 -0700 (PDT), jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
>Anyway, you might be the person to answer this, this new hearing thingie, what if it was a kit ?
INAL (I am not a lawyer). It is my understanding that a kit is
treated exactly the same as a finished product. If a kit were treated
differently, then we would be inundated with almost finished products,
lacking the installation of only one screw, which would be installed
by buyer. That's not going to work. If you offer something for sale,
whether it is complete or partly assembled, it comes under regulatory
oversight. If you make something for yourself, and NOT offer it for
sale, you can do almost anything that doesn't endanger the general
public.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>Anyway, you might be the person to answer this, this new hearing thingie, what if it was a kit ?
INAL (I am not a lawyer). It is my understanding that a kit is
treated exactly the same as a finished product. If a kit were treated
differently, then we would be inundated with almost finished products,
lacking the installation of only one screw, which would be installed
by buyer. That's not going to work. If you offer something for sale,
whether it is complete or partly assembled, it comes under regulatory
oversight. If you make something for yourself, and NOT offer it for
sale, you can do almost anything that doesn't endanger the general
public.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
J
Jeff Liebermann
Guest
On Sun, 5 May 2019 22:05:18 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
The tablet probably has BlueGoof built in. You can probably use a
wireless BlueGoof mouse with tablet. If that doesn't work, you can
insert a USB OTG adapter in the USB jack, and a wired USB mouse into
the USB OTG adapter.
<https://blog.fonepaw.com/work-on-android-with-otg.html>
Genuine free unwanted advice: Dump the tablet and buy a decent
Chromebook. You get a keyboard, mouse, 1920x1080 IPS screen, and more
horsepower. About $200 refurbished:
<https://acerrecertified.com/chromebooks/14/?sort=priceasc>
Any of the CB3-431-xxxx models will do as long as it has a 1920x1080
IPS display, 4GB of RAM, and 32GB of flash.
The only catch is that Google is going to stop updating Android for
the CB3-431 in June 2021:
<https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/6220366?hl=en>
Updates are important because much of my entertainment and income is
derived from fighting new and improved bugs, weirdness, and oddities
introduced by updates. I wouldn't know what to do with myself without
updates.
One supermarket chain (Safeway) has taken advantage of that effect.
When an item is discounted or goes on sale, it gets a yellow price tag
for "club card" holders. Regular price tags are white. A few years
ago, they introduced a "regular price" yellow price tag which looks
very much like the yellow discount and is similarly installed on top
of the regular white price tag. It's not difficult to distinguish
between the two types of yellow cards. The idea is to hold the
shoppers attention for an extended period while make the distinction.
However, when half the items on the shelves have the "regular price"
yellow tags, it makes finding the bargains substantially more
difficult.
Math also comes into play when Safeway offers a reduced price. Instead
of simply stating the new lower price, they provide it in a form that
will certainly confuse the mathematically deficient shopper. Three
items for $7 or some other combination that requires either thinking,
guessing, or dragging out the smartphone calculator. After some
complaints, Safeway now add the unit price in the smallest font that
can only be read if the buyer fondles the produce and possibly using a
magnifier.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
The tablet probably has BlueGoof built in. You can probably use a
wireless BlueGoof mouse with tablet. If that doesn't work, you can
insert a USB OTG adapter in the USB jack, and a wired USB mouse into
the USB OTG adapter.
<https://blog.fonepaw.com/work-on-android-with-otg.html>
Genuine free unwanted advice: Dump the tablet and buy a decent
Chromebook. You get a keyboard, mouse, 1920x1080 IPS screen, and more
horsepower. About $200 refurbished:
<https://acerrecertified.com/chromebooks/14/?sort=priceasc>
Any of the CB3-431-xxxx models will do as long as it has a 1920x1080
IPS display, 4GB of RAM, and 32GB of flash.
The only catch is that Google is going to stop updating Android for
the CB3-431 in June 2021:
<https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/6220366?hl=en>
Updates are important because much of my entertainment and income is
derived from fighting new and improved bugs, weirdness, and oddities
introduced by updates. I wouldn't know what to do with myself without
updates.
One supermarket chain (Safeway) has taken advantage of that effect.
When an item is discounted or goes on sale, it gets a yellow price tag
for "club card" holders. Regular price tags are white. A few years
ago, they introduced a "regular price" yellow price tag which looks
very much like the yellow discount and is similarly installed on top
of the regular white price tag. It's not difficult to distinguish
between the two types of yellow cards. The idea is to hold the
shoppers attention for an extended period while make the distinction.
However, when half the items on the shelves have the "regular price"
yellow tags, it makes finding the bargains substantially more
difficult.
Math also comes into play when Safeway offers a reduced price. Instead
of simply stating the new lower price, they provide it in a form that
will certainly confuse the mathematically deficient shopper. Three
items for $7 or some other combination that requires either thinking,
guessing, or dragging out the smartphone calculator. After some
complaints, Safeway now add the unit price in the smallest font that
can only be read if the buyer fondles the produce and possibly using a
magnifier.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Y
Yzordderrex
Guest
On Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 3:16:49 AM UTC-4, Tom Gardner wrote:
Thanks for input Tom and others. I'm a little fuzzy on the difference. You prompted me to read up on it some. I would like to hear your point of view.
Looks like a loudness control might boost highs and lows. I would think the Bass & Treble controls could also accomplish this - not sure tho. The Maxim chip has AGC function which may be of some value. I am looking at placing some zeros in the amplifier in order to undo the roll off that I have from the NIHL - was a 5" gun mount that did it.
I do not intend to sell these if they are of any help. I would prefer to give them away.
Thanks for input Tom and others. I'm a little fuzzy on the difference. You prompted me to read up on it some. I would like to hear your point of view.
Looks like a loudness control might boost highs and lows. I would think the Bass & Treble controls could also accomplish this - not sure tho. The Maxim chip has AGC function which may be of some value. I am looking at placing some zeros in the amplifier in order to undo the roll off that I have from the NIHL - was a 5" gun mount that did it.
I do not intend to sell these if they are of any help. I would prefer to give them away.
T
Tom Gardner
Guest
On 06/05/19 00:08, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Can't remember about the bluetooth, but the vnc
capability is mainly of academic interest rather
than being beneficial to me!
That's a different use case for me.
I don't want something that is only usable where there
is internet connectivity. I have a couple of netbooks
(linux, Win7) that fill the same niche as a chromebook,
especially w.r.t. a real keyboard. One still has an
excellent 9yo battery, because there's a BIOS setting
to limit the charging to 80% of capacity.
The tablet fits in my coat pocket and can be carried
anywhere. Great for consuming content, suboptimal for
creating structured content e.g. "[/quote]" is a
real pain on a soft keyboard. (I'm old enough to remember
5-channel paper tape, and the pain of using letter-shift
figure-shift keys to alternate between numbers and letters.
That it has re-appeared is a real step backward!)
Here the yellow labels are stuck on each individual
EOL package, across the barcode, at an irregular angle.
That's easy to see from a distance.
Yup
Can't remember about the bluetooth, but the vnc
capability is mainly of academic interest rather
than being beneficial to me!
That's a different use case for me.
I don't want something that is only usable where there
is internet connectivity. I have a couple of netbooks
(linux, Win7) that fill the same niche as a chromebook,
especially w.r.t. a real keyboard. One still has an
excellent 9yo battery, because there's a BIOS setting
to limit the charging to 80% of capacity.
The tablet fits in my coat pocket and can be carried
anywhere. Great for consuming content, suboptimal for
creating structured content e.g. "[/quote]" is a
real pain on a soft keyboard. (I'm old enough to remember
5-channel paper tape, and the pain of using letter-shift
figure-shift keys to alternate between numbers and letters.
That it has re-appeared is a real step backward!)
Here the yellow labels are stuck on each individual
EOL package, across the barcode, at an irregular angle.
That's easy to see from a distance.
Yup
T
Tom Gardner
Guest
On 05/05/19 23:49, Yzordderrex wrote:
The ear-brain is highly non-linear in ways that I only
dimly comprehend. Consult textbooks and the literature
for more information.
Start by understanding that the nominal frequency
response is dependent on the amplitude.
Base/treble controls change the frequency response in
the same way whatever the amplitude. Clearly that doesn't
match the way the ear-brain perceives sound; in effect
the "ideal" bass/treble control setting at one amplitude
won't be the ideal setting at louder/softer amplitudes.
A "loudness control" is an attempt to have a base/treble
boost/cut that changes with the amplitude, that matches
how sound is perceived.
Now imagine having a different loudness control for each
deaf person, because each deaf person's impairment is
unique.
What does that mean in practice? I recently had two new
hearing aids, where the process was:
- 45 mins quickly assessing my hearing, so as to
determine which type of aid is appropriate, plus
taking ear canal moulds for two new earpieces
- after the moulds had been manufactured, a
1.75 hour session that:
- accurately measured my hearing loss in each
ear, air and bone conduction, plus a masking
test to ensure my right ear wasn't hearing
sounds played into my left ear
- discussing what I wanted the aids to achieve,
in order to set appropriate programmes
- tweaking each *aid's* frequency response to
be the inverse of my hearing response, plys
setting appropriate companding and limits
- with the aids in my ears, measuring the effect
` the ear *canal* has, and re-tweaking each aid
to get the desired response, companding and
limits
I will have another appointment in a few weeks to
re-assess what has worked, hasn't worked, and re-tweak
everything.
So, not cheap, not easy, and there is a high degree
of sophisticated assessment, measurement, and tweaking
involved. It sure the hell isn't a simple amplifier
and tone control!
Now not everybody will have hearing as bad as mine,
but the processes listed above will be pretty similar
for everybody.
The ear-brain is highly non-linear in ways that I only
dimly comprehend. Consult textbooks and the literature
for more information.
Start by understanding that the nominal frequency
response is dependent on the amplitude.
Base/treble controls change the frequency response in
the same way whatever the amplitude. Clearly that doesn't
match the way the ear-brain perceives sound; in effect
the "ideal" bass/treble control setting at one amplitude
won't be the ideal setting at louder/softer amplitudes.
A "loudness control" is an attempt to have a base/treble
boost/cut that changes with the amplitude, that matches
how sound is perceived.
Now imagine having a different loudness control for each
deaf person, because each deaf person's impairment is
unique.
What does that mean in practice? I recently had two new
hearing aids, where the process was:
- 45 mins quickly assessing my hearing, so as to
determine which type of aid is appropriate, plus
taking ear canal moulds for two new earpieces
- after the moulds had been manufactured, a
1.75 hour session that:
- accurately measured my hearing loss in each
ear, air and bone conduction, plus a masking
test to ensure my right ear wasn't hearing
sounds played into my left ear
- discussing what I wanted the aids to achieve,
in order to set appropriate programmes
- tweaking each *aid's* frequency response to
be the inverse of my hearing response, plys
setting appropriate companding and limits
- with the aids in my ears, measuring the effect
` the ear *canal* has, and re-tweaking each aid
to get the desired response, companding and
limits
I will have another appointment in a few weeks to
re-assess what has worked, hasn't worked, and re-tweak
everything.
So, not cheap, not easy, and there is a high degree
of sophisticated assessment, measurement, and tweaking
involved. It sure the hell isn't a simple amplifier
and tone control!
Now not everybody will have hearing as bad as mine,
but the processes listed above will be pretty similar
for everybody.
Guest
On Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 3:36:10 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
With a rather stout Tanqueray, splash of tonic and lime of course!
With a rather stout Tanqueray, splash of tonic and lime of course!
M
Martin Brown
Guest
On 05/05/2019 19:48, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
In the UK intially there is a check for ear wax or other physical
obstruction followed by a full hearing frequency test and the test
response is then used to program the aid. Likewise with ear moulds.
I find it very odd that hearing aid batteries and prosthetic socks form
a natural resource category in US VA health service planning.
So what is the point of this proposal to make something which is going
to be about the same as the rubbish analogue designs from more than a
quarter of a century ago. What purpose do they serve?
There are plenty of fairly decent cheap Chinese hearing aids about.
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
In the UK intially there is a check for ear wax or other physical
obstruction followed by a full hearing frequency test and the test
response is then used to program the aid. Likewise with ear moulds.
I find it very odd that hearing aid batteries and prosthetic socks form
a natural resource category in US VA health service planning.
So what is the point of this proposal to make something which is going
to be about the same as the rubbish analogue designs from more than a
quarter of a century ago. What purpose do they serve?
There are plenty of fairly decent cheap Chinese hearing aids about.
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
T
Tom Gardner
Guest
On 06/05/19 15:37, Martin Brown wrote:
Yes, that is a key question.
If it /is/ more than that, then it will require complex
fitting and tuning procedures - which will make it a
hearing aid with all that implies.
If it is /only/ that, why bother.
Yes, that is a key question.
If it /is/ more than that, then it will require complex
fitting and tuning procedures - which will make it a
hearing aid with all that implies.
If it is /only/ that, why bother.
Guest
you want to market your device like this
https://www.radioshack.com/products/3-band-amped-stereo-listener
I had one of these for a family member and it was effective.
The EQ controls are the key.
m
https://www.radioshack.com/products/3-band-amped-stereo-listener
I had one of these for a family member and it was effective.
The EQ controls are the key.
m
A
amdx
Guest
On 5/4/2019 6:04 AM, Yzordderrex wrote:
I don't know if you can get it without pay, I had some free visits, but
no more.
Mikek
I don't know if you can get it without pay, I had some free visits, but
no more.
Mikek