PCB design.

[Wrighty]

I have been an electronics engineer for 25 years.
In that time I have designed dozens of PCB's.
I found pcbcad17 off ebay to be dirt cheap and fuill of excelllent
features.

 

[Stephan Rose]

On 18 Jul 2006 05:23:04 -0700, "Wrighty"
<cresswellavenue@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

I have been an electronics engineer for 25 years.
In that time I have designed dozens of PCB's.
I found pcbcad17 off ebay to be dirt cheap and fuill of excelllent
features.

You spotted your own program on
ebay...yeeaaaaa...riiiiiight.."spotted"...

 

[nospam]

"Wrighty" <cresswellavenue@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

I have been an electronics engineer for 25 years.
In that time I have designed dozens of PCB's.
I found pcbcad17 off ebay to be dirt cheap and fuill of excelllent
features.

Honestly, how dumb do you think people are?

Do you think promoting your product by spamming usenet pretending to be a
user is going to fool anyone or instill confidence in potential customers?
--

 

[JeffM]

was: PCB design.

Wrighty wrote:
>[SPAM]

 

[Wrighty]

How very clever of you!

If you dont know a bargain when you see it that is your look out.
The product stands up on its own without me pushing it.

Nigel.





nospam wrote:

"Wrighty" <cresswellavenue@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

I have been an electronics engineer for 25 years.
In that time I have designed dozens of PCB's.
I found pcbcad17 off ebay to be dirt cheap and fuill of excelllent
features.

Honestly, how dumb do you think people are?

Do you think promoting your product by spamming usenet pretending to be a
user is going to fool anyone or instill confidence in potential customers?
--

 

[JeffM]

was: PCB design.

The product stands up on its own without me pushing it.
Nigel (Wrighty)

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:SiglznvMQlIJ:www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/+zz-zz+WHAT-USENET-IS-NOT+biz+Usenet-is-not-an-advertising-medium

Still top-posting like an idiot as well.
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:SXIajvWUVHAJ:groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py=answer=12348+Tempting-though-it-is-*-*-*-*-*-*+remove-*-*-*-irrelevant+STOP+zz-zz+qq+BOTTOM

 

[Joel Kolstad]

"Wrighty" <cresswellavenue@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1153248870.701078.156060@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

If you dont know a bargain when you see it that is your look out.

You don't seem to have a web site dvoted to your product.

The product stands up on its own without me pushing it.

Then why did you spam Usenet?

 

[Stephan Rose]

On 18 Jul 2006 11:54:30 -0700, "Wrighty"
<cresswellavenue@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

How very clever of you!

If you dont know a bargain when you see it that is your look out.
The product stands up on its own without me pushing it.

Nigel.

I call the whole thing bullshit. Open source I can semi-comprehend. I
suppose some people like to work for free. Their choice.

But a commercial product of this scale being SOLD for a few bucks?
That alone raises several red flags.

Next...checking the ebay add, all I see is a list of features it
supposedly has. I don't see a SINGLE screenshot of the actual
software!! I mean wouldn't someone post screenshots when trying to
promote their software?

And on another forum you actually claim you converted your little
pascal application to C#? That's friggin laughable considering that I
have been a C# developer for years now and can tell you there is no
possible way to re-write an app of the magnitude with the capabilities
you are claiming in that short of a time.

What's even more laughable is your prior claim of converting your
assembly code to pascal for your first windows version...

This whole thing reeks of total complete bullshit. I doubt any
software even exists...

But hey, prove me wrong. Backup your claims!! Lets see some
screenshots!!! Post some AVIs of your appliation at work...

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

kimi no koto omoidasu hi
nante nai no wa
kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara

 

[Hlrsr]

"Stephan Rose" <kermos@somrek.diespammer.net> wrote in message
news:2qhqb2lui9bt2tq72qp20o5fja3esgun1n@4ax.com...

On 18 Jul 2006 11:54:30 -0700, "Wrighty"
cresswellavenue@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

How very clever of you!

If you dont know a bargain when you see it that is your look out.
The product stands up on its own without me pushing it.

Nigel.



I call the whole thing bullshit. Open source I can semi-comprehend. I
suppose some people like to work for free. Their choice.

But a commercial product of this scale being SOLD for a few bucks?
That alone raises several red flags.

Next...checking the ebay add, all I see is a list of features it
supposedly has. I don't see a SINGLE screenshot of the actual
software!! I mean wouldn't someone post screenshots when trying to
promote their software?

And on another forum you actually claim you converted your little
pascal application to C#? That's friggin laughable considering that I
have been a C# developer for years now and can tell you there is no
possible way to re-write an app of the magnitude with the capabilities
you are claiming in that short of a time.

What's even more laughable is your prior claim of converting your
assembly code to pascal for your first windows version...

This whole thing reeks of total complete bullshit. I doubt any
software even exists...

But hey, prove me wrong. Backup your claims!! Lets see some
screenshots!!! Post some AVIs of your appliation at work...

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

kimi no koto omoidasu hi
nante nai no wa
kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara

I 've found schreenshots of his program
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm

Well, he didn't bother to change the default Icon on the Title Bar. That's
lazyness

 

[Paul Burke]

Hlrsr wrote:

I 've found schreenshots of his program
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm

Well, he didn't bother to change the default Icon on the Title Bar. That's
lazyness

If you click on his swish header, you get to something called "CKP
Railways" ... very odd. Maybe he did their web page and forgot to change
it.

 

[Wrighty]

I a mnot very happy with the snide remarks.

I have been a programmer and electronics engineer for 25 years now.

As a design consultant I was expected to pick up any area of
electronics or any programming language and get stuck in.

The DOS version was 330,000 lines of assembler.
The Pascal version was around 100,000.
The C# version was around 100,000

Just to astound you even more I recently converted one of the modules
to C++ and Visual basic.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm






Paul Burke wrote:

Hlrsr wrote:


I 've found schreenshots of his program
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm

Well, he didn't bother to change the default Icon on the Title Bar. That's
lazyness


If you click on his swish header, you get to something called "CKP
Railways" ... very odd. Maybe he did their web page and forgot to change
it.

 

[Wrighty]

But a commercial product of this scale being SOLD for a few bucks?
That alone raises several red flags.

Better a few bucks than getting nothing for it.

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm

 

[nospam]

"Wrighty" <cresswellavenue@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

I a mnot very happy with the snide remarks.

If you don't want snide don't spam usenet with dishonest pseudo
advertising.
--

 

[Chuck Harris]

Wrighty wrote:

But a commercial product of this scale being SOLD for a few bucks?
That alone raises several red flags.


Better a few bucks than getting nothing for it.

Sometimes, no. If you sell it, you will have to maintain it. You can
easily find yourself in a position where maintenance costs exceed the
paltry sum you receive.

-Chuck

 

[Chuck Harris]

Wrighty wrote:

I a mnot very happy with the snide remarks.

Then you best stay away from the usenet. The guys were very mild
with you.

I have been a programmer and electronics engineer for 25 years now.

Ditto, only I am approaching 30 years.

As a design consultant I was expected to pick up any area of
electronics or any programming language and get stuck in.

Only the ones you chose to accept. I never was willing to program
in microsoft proprietary languages, like VB and C#

The DOS version was 330,000 lines of assembler.

Uh huh. Only an idiot would write that many lines of assembler
to run on DOS. I say that from experience (both of being an idiot, and
a programmer). I started programming DOS when the base IBM-PC machine
was 16K with a single floppy disk. There was no way that that machine
could run a 330K line assembly language program. It couldn't even fit
one on its floppy disk drive. By the time the IBM-PC came with 640K on
board, and two DSDD floppy disk drives, there were at least 3 decent C
compilers available (Computer Innovations was the best). They didn't
make perfect code, but they easily would handle the structure, and let
you use assembly wherever speed was really important.

The Pascal version was around 100,000.

Turbo Pascal was the dominant pascal back in the DOS days, and I am sure
that it would croak with a 100K line program. Something about it's
com file format, with its combined 64K I&D space.

The C# version was around 100,000

Just to astound you even more I recently converted one of the modules
to C++ and Visual basic.

Whoopie! I converted a lawn mower into a minibike once!

Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

Yes, the minibike did smoke a little.

-Chuck

 

Wrighty wrote:

I a mnot very happy with the snide remarks.

I have been a programmer and electronics engineer for 25 years now.

As a design consultant I was expected to pick up any area of
electronics or any programming language and get stuck in.

The DOS version was 330,000 lines of assembler.
The Pascal version was around 100,000.
The C# version was around 100,000

Just to astound you even more I recently converted one of the modules
to C++ and Visual basic.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

I'm astounded. I'm even more astounded by your 7 copper layers. Do
tell, how many 7 layer PCBs have you ever seen? Did you allocate 3 bits
for the layer count and started counting at 1????

The good thing is that you can at least generate resist for those 7
layers. I don't know what you'll do with resist for the 5 inner layers
though.

 

[JeffM]

Wrighty wrote:

I a mnot very happy with the snide remarks.

Yes. That's obvious.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/07faedb5000ef8c1/70f06e9f2863598f?q=posted-pictures.of-his-ass+Yahoogroup+You-can-guess-how-he'd-respond-to-a-bug-report-or-request-for-assistance-with-his-software

 

[Stephan Rose]

On 25 Jul 2006 06:14:33 -0700, "Wrighty"
<cresswellavenue@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

I a mnot very happy with the snide remarks.

I have been a programmer and electronics engineer for 25 years now.

As a design consultant I was expected to pick up any area of
electronics or any programming language and get stuck in.

The DOS version was 330,000 lines of assembler.
The Pascal version was around 100,000.
The C# version was around 100,000

Just to astound you even more I recently converted one of the modules
to C++ and Visual basic.

What do you want? A cookie?

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

kimi no koto omoidasu hi
nante nai no wa
kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara

 

[Stephan Rose]

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:12:35 -0400, Chuck Harris
<cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:

Wrighty wrote:
I a mnot very happy with the snide remarks.

Then you best stay away from the usenet. The guys were very mild
with you.

I have been a programmer and electronics engineer for 25 years now.

Ditto, only I am approaching 30 years.

As a design consultant I was expected to pick up any area of
electronics or any programming language and get stuck in.

Only the ones you chose to accept. I never was willing to program
in microsoft proprietary languages, like VB and C#

VB sucks but...C# is actually a really nice language, been using it
for many ears now with no regrets.

The DOS version was 330,000 lines of assembler.

Uh huh. Only an idiot would write that many lines of assembler
to run on DOS. I say that from experience (both of being an idiot, and
a programmer). I started programming DOS when the base IBM-PC machine
was 16K with a single floppy disk. There was no way that that machine
could run a 330K line assembly language program. It couldn't even fit
one on its floppy disk drive. By the time the IBM-PC came with 640K on
board, and two DSDD floppy disk drives, there were at least 3 decent C
compilers available (Computer Innovations was the best). They didn't
make perfect code, but they easily would handle the structure, and let
you use assembly wherever speed was really important.

The Pascal version was around 100,000.

Turbo Pascal was the dominant pascal back in the DOS days, and I am sure
that it would croak with a 100K line program. Something about it's
com file format, with its combined 64K I&D space.

Disregarding wether it is possible or not, only a newbie would
actually give a crap about lines of code. I mean, lines of code is
about as relevant as our current planetary alignment.

The C# version was around 100,000

Just to astound you even more I recently converted one of the modules
to C++ and Visual basic.

Whoopie! I converted a lawn mower into a minibike once!

Now why did ya do a thing like that? Coulda just bought a harley, they
come already converted for you from the factory! =)

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

kimi no koto omoidasu hi
nante nai no wa
kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara

 

[Joel Kolstad]

"Stephan Rose" <kermos@somrek.diespammer.net> wrote in message
news:dv9dc25qon6hhbluaqbqug20gollmmqvb3@4ax.com...

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:12:35 -0400, Chuck Harris
Disregarding wether it is possible or not, only a newbie would
actually give a crap about lines of code. I mean, lines of code is
about as relevant as our current planetary alignment.

Real Geeks start going the other way -- the fewer lines of code to accomplish
a given task, the better.

I wrote a PCB layout program that's just as powerful as PADS in 27 lines of
Joel##++!

(In Joel##++, one of the intrinsic commands is, of course AutoRoutePCB()...)