OT: Zelensky wants demilitarized zones around Ukraine\'s nuclear power plants...

[John Doe]

Sylvia Else wrote:

John Doe wrote:

He should have never given up his job as a comedian...

I\'m wondering whether shelling the plant was intentional, at least at a
high command level. The Russians don\'t seem that competent. I suspect it
was just a mistake.

If I\'m right, a demilitarized zone would be ineffective.

In a war... Disabling a critical resource like energy is a winner.
Remember Star Wars \"Walkers\" taking out the generators? Zelensky condemned
Russia\'s attack on its nuclear power plant. But of course he has troops
trying to protect them.

That\'s the joke... Condemning the enemy for taking out your power plants
is like condemning the enemy for using bullets.

Zelensky wants Ukrainians to take up pitchforks against the Russian army.

He condemns NATO for not implementing a no-fly zone, for not starting
World War III.

He would sacrifice his own people and the whole world to keep his job.
A typical politician.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 4:45:08 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

Bozo, a regular troll and my most frequent contributor, can\'t read \"OT\" in
the subject line and acts unable to press the Ignore Thread key. Bozo is
all lies, all the time.

Of course I can read OT: and I could ignore your rubbish, but it\'s toxic rubbish, and really needs to be sign-posted as such.

You are a dangerous lunatic, and do need to identified as such. That makes you the troll - another fact that you don\'t seem to be able to process.

The problem you present is that you post lies more or less non-stop, but don\'t seem to have enough sense to realise that they are lies.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Ed Lee]

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 9:36:53 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 05-Mar-22 5:33 pm, John Doe wrote:
He should have never given up his job as a comedian...
I\'m wondering whether shelling the plant was intentional, at least at a
high command level. The Russians don\'t seem that competent. I suspect it
was just a mistake.

I think they just want to scare people to move away.

> If I\'m right, a demilitarized zone would be ineffective.

500 miles DMZ or DHZ would be fine for Putin. (H for Human).

Regarding OTOT (On Title Off Topic), the Ukrainian should have thousands (if not tens of thousands) of Stingers and Javelins by now. However, there are only reports of hundreds of hits. Are they hogging the equipments for later use or resell? Or the hit ratio is really that poor?

 

[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:34 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t02bkq$540$1@dont-email.me>.

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readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow it\'s own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

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[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 12:46:57 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 9:36:53 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 05-Mar-22 5:33 pm, John Doe wrote:
He should have never given up his job as a comedian...
I\'m wondering whether shelling the plant was intentional, at least at a
high command level. The Russians don\'t seem that competent. I suspect it
was just a mistake.
I think they just want to scare people to move away.
If I\'m right, a demilitarized zone would be ineffective.
500 miles DMZ or DHZ would be fine for Putin. (H for Human).

Regarding OTOT (On Title Off Topic), the Ukrainian should have thousands (if not tens of thousands) of Stingers and Javelins by now. However, there are only reports of hundreds of hits. Are they hogging the equipments for later use or resell? Or the hit ratio is really that poor?

People who have a managed to take out a tank or an armoured personnel carrier are a lot more interested in getting away from the area than they are in documenting their success for the benefit of international media.

Basically they are ambush weapons, so you need to have lot spread around in the hope that a tank will come into range of one of them.

If you move them around when there are enemy tanks or aircraft around, a tank or an aircraft is going to take the anti-tank weapon a lot faster than the anti-tank weapon can take out a tank.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Joe Gwinn]

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 16:36:42 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:

On 05-Mar-22 5:33 pm, John Doe wrote:
He should have never given up his job as a comedian...

I\'m wondering whether shelling the plant was intentional, at least at a
high command level. The Russians don\'t seem that competent. I suspect it
was just a mistake.

I think that it probably was intentional, but not in the way people
think.

The Russians are not nearly as worried about radiation as in the West,
and this has the advantage of terrifying those soft westerners.

Chernobyl is now a large nature preserve, and all the local critters
are doing just fine. Which raises questions about the linear-effect
models of radiation induced morbidity used by western regulatory
agencies - those critters should be in a bad way, but don\'t know it.

The weapons we saw used on that power plant cannot do much to a
reactor - they are *not* fragile. But admin buildings are fragile,
and burn nicely.

Joe Gwinn

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 07-Mar-22 12:46 am, Ed Lee wrote:

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 9:36:53 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 05-Mar-22 5:33 pm, John Doe wrote:
He should have never given up his job as a comedian...
I\'m wondering whether shelling the plant was intentional, at least at a
high command level. The Russians don\'t seem that competent. I suspect it
was just a mistake.

I think they just want to scare people to move away.

If I\'m right, a demilitarized zone would be ineffective.

500 miles DMZ or DHZ would be fine for Putin. (H for Human).

Regarding OTOT (On Title Off Topic), the Ukrainian should have thousands (if not tens of thousands) of Stingers and Javelins by now. However, there are only reports of hundreds of hits. Are they hogging the equipments for later use or resell? Or the hit ratio is really that poor?

When aircraft flies over at low level, you have little time to realise
it\'s coming in which the point your weapon and fire.

Sylvia.

 

[Ed Lee]

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 2:43:16 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 07-Mar-22 12:46 am, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 9:36:53 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 05-Mar-22 5:33 pm, John Doe wrote:
He should have never given up his job as a comedian...
I\'m wondering whether shelling the plant was intentional, at least at a
high command level. The Russians don\'t seem that competent. I suspect it
was just a mistake.

I think they just want to scare people to move away.

If I\'m right, a demilitarized zone would be ineffective.

500 miles DMZ or DHZ would be fine for Putin. (H for Human).

Regarding OTOT (On Title Off Topic), the Ukrainian should have thousands (if not tens of thousands) of Stingers and Javelins by now. However, there are only reports of hundreds of hits. Are they hogging the equipments for later use or resell? Or the hit ratio is really that poor?
When aircraft flies over at low level, you have little time to realise
it\'s coming in which the point your weapon and fire.

Stinger is for Jets. Javelin is for ground vehicles, landing boats and helicopters. You target first, shot it anywhere you want, and run away. More advanced version can also be fired remotely from unmanned launcher. But we probably shouldn\'t tell the enemies too much here.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:33:24 AM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
> He should have never given up his job as a comedian...

It was an artillery bombardment, not an air attack. Artillery will not damage those massive concrete structures in the plant. It takes a HUGE amount of HE to break reinforced concrete, and artillery is not it. The whole story is a bunch of mass media hysteria. Artillery is good for destroying all the big transmission distribution network outside of the plant. And that\'s enough. it\'s out of commission either way.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:58:17 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 2:43:16 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 07-Mar-22 12:46 am, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 9:36:53 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 05-Mar-22 5:33 pm, John Doe wrote:
He should have never given up his job as a comedian...
I\'m wondering whether shelling the plant was intentional, at least at a
high command level. The Russians don\'t seem that competent. I suspect it
was just a mistake.

I think they just want to scare people to move away.

If I\'m right, a demilitarized zone would be ineffective.

500 miles DMZ or DHZ would be fine for Putin. (H for Human).

Regarding OTOT (On Title Off Topic), the Ukrainian should have thousands (if not tens of thousands) of Stingers and Javelins by now. However, there are only reports of hundreds of hits. Are they hogging the equipments for later use or resell? Or the hit ratio is really that poor?
When aircraft flies over at low level, you have little time to realise
it\'s coming in which the point your weapon and fire.
Stinger is for Jets. Javelin is for ground vehicles, landing boats and helicopters. You target first, shot it anywhere you want, and run away. More advanced version can also be fired remotely from unmanned launcher. But we probably shouldn\'t tell the enemies too much here.

Wired guided anti-tank missiles have been set up so that the operator isn\'t close enough to the launcher to be a target after the missile has been fired for decades now. Even the Russians will know about that.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 11:24:15 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:33:24 AM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
He should have never given up his job as a comedian...
It was an artillery bombardment, not an air attack. Artillery will not damage those massive concrete structures in the plant. It takes a HUGE amount of HE to break reinforced concrete, and artillery is not it. The whole story is a bunch of mass media hysteria. Artillery is good for destroying all the big transmission distribution network outside of the plant. And that\'s enough. it\'s out of commission either way.

Fred hasn\'t noticed that it was diesel auxiliary generators that failed at Fukushima, not the containment shell. Mess with a complicated system like a nuclear reactor and the results aren\'t easily predictable.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Ed Lee]

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 5:40:56 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:58:17 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 2:43:16 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 07-Mar-22 12:46 am, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 9:36:53 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 05-Mar-22 5:33 pm, John Doe wrote:
He should have never given up his job as a comedian...
I\'m wondering whether shelling the plant was intentional, at least at a
high command level. The Russians don\'t seem that competent. I suspect it
was just a mistake.

I think they just want to scare people to move away.

If I\'m right, a demilitarized zone would be ineffective.

500 miles DMZ or DHZ would be fine for Putin. (H for Human).

Regarding OTOT (On Title Off Topic), the Ukrainian should have thousands (if not tens of thousands) of Stingers and Javelins by now. However, there are only reports of hundreds of hits. Are they hogging the equipments for later use or resell? Or the hit ratio is really that poor?
When aircraft flies over at low level, you have little time to realise
it\'s coming in which the point your weapon and fire.
Stinger is for Jets. Javelin is for ground vehicles, landing boats and helicopters. You target first, shot it anywhere you want, and run away. More advanced version can also be fired remotely from unmanned launcher. But we probably shouldn\'t tell the enemies too much here.
Wired guided anti-tank missiles have been set up so that the operator isn\'t close enough to the launcher to be a target after the missile has been fired for decades now. Even the Russians will know about that.

It\'s wireless and very far away but within radio range.

 

[John Doe]

Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can\'t get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don\'t get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
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Subject: Re: OT: Zelensky wants demilitarized zones around Ukraine\'s nuclear power plants
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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:34 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t02bkq$540$1@dont-email.me>.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow it\'s own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

wL3g1EF5qxL4

 

[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Mon, 7 Mar 2022 02:10:40 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t03piv$5ja$2@dont-email.me>).

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET has been 53.8% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

AzedgVzDCr2L

 

[John Doe]

Joe Gwinn wrote:

Sylvia Else wrote:
John Doe wrote:

He should have never given up his job as a comedian...

I\'m wondering whether shelling the plant was intentional, at least at a
high command level. The Russians don\'t seem that competent. I suspect it
was just a mistake.

I think that it probably was intentional, but not in the way people
think.

The Russians are not nearly as worried about radiation as in the West,
and this has the advantage of terrifying those soft westerners.

Chernobyl is now a large nature preserve, and all the local critters
are doing just fine. Which raises questions about the linear-effect
models of radiation induced morbidity used by western regulatory
agencies - those critters should be in a bad way, but don\'t know it.

LOL

Maybe they have migraine headaches? It must be awful, somehow.

It is teeming with wildlife. The animals don\'t mind at all that we (humans)
abandoned that area.

So much irony.

The weapons we saw used on that power plant cannot do much to a
reactor - they are *not* fragile. But admin buildings are fragile,
and burn nicely.

Right. Everybody, East and West, says nothing is wrong with respect to
radiation.

 

[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sat, 5 Mar 2022 09:43:54 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<svvbcq$djd$1@dont-email.me>).

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET has been 53.0% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

cdHjs4Dh4HZz

 

[John Doe]

Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can\'t get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don\'t get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sat, 5 Mar 2022 09:43:54 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
svvbcq$djd$1@dont-email.me>).

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET has been 53.0% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

cdHjs4Dh4HZz

 

[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Mon, 7 Mar 2022 05:53:10 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t046k5$g84$1@dont-email.me>).

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

2R3xY/+wR0pB

 

[John Doe]

Sounds like bombs or thunder in the background.

I\'m using an equalizer to filter out the static background noise, works well.





I wrote:

https://youtu.be/iZebYm-nenY

If you can handle the nasty background noise, that appears to be the best
live view. It shows horizons in three of four windows. The audio appears to
be current.

 

[John Doe]

It\'s bombs, lots of bombs.

https://youtu.be/iZebYm-nenY