OT: Within the next 9 years, you will all be disarmed...

[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:55:13 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <sng0f1$7qr$1@dont-email.me>.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow it\'s own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

tmGM4svpnI1e

 

[bitrex]

On 11/22/2021 6:55 AM, John Doe wrote:

This poster claims to be a libertarian but (before) it equated
self-control with \"big brother\". First time I heard that being a
libertarian stance. Amusing.

Loony libertarians should not fault others for inconsistency, given the
fact libertarianism itself is chock-full of major inconsistencies.
A libertarian running for office is like organizing a suicide squad...
They kill themselves before completing their mission.

No idea what this is referring to...

I\'ll lay it out real simply for you. The US is a highly authoritarian
and restrictive country regardless of what current political party is in
power. The standard of \"libertarianism\" is very low. Answer me these
questions three:

Should the government be able to launch wars of aggression by fiat, Y/N

Should the government be allowed to have the power of life and death
over its citizens, via execution either in a gas chamber/firing
squad/whatever or because a police officer was scared, Y/N

Should the government be allowed to force women to give birth because it
enforces laws that say it\'s illegal to do otherwise, Y/N

These are some of the biggest powers it has, equal to or in excess of
the kings of old. If you answer \"Y\" to any of these questions you\'re
probably some fashion of authoritarian, who feels these powers are best
left to your moral and intellectual betters to use as they see fit.

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

bitrex wrote:

\"By 2030, you will own nothing and be happy about it.\"

- Klaus Schwab, World Economic Forum CEO.


What\'s their secret plan?! Not so secret is it!

Nobody said it was secret. It\'s on their website. I\'ve also seen it in
WEF advertisement on doctors\' waiting room TVs.


--
Defund the Thought Police

 

[Flyguy]

On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@nowhere.com
wrote:

It\'s just occurred to me that is one disturbing corrollary of the arch
Globalist\'s pronouncement I\'ve been quoting in my sig! I wonder how
he\'s going to go about it? I\'m guessing he won\'t be putting himself in
the firing line!
--

\"By 2030, you will own nothing and be happy about it.\"

- Klaus Schwab, World Economic Forum CEO.

“New York City’s West Side Highway will be Underwater by 2009”

With the weight of illegals?
Probably not. John Larkin believes all kinds of nonsense he finds on climate change denial web-sites.

https://skepticalscience.com/Hansen-West-Side-Highway.htm

What Hansen was talking about actually happened during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, so Hansen wasn\'t too far off.

---
SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

Hey SNIPPERMAN, Hansen also predicted that the Artic would be free of summer ice by 2018 at the latest:
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1988&dat=20080624&id=7mgiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7qkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5563,4123490

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@nowhere.com
wrote:

<snip>

“New York City’s West Side Highway will be Underwater by 2009”

With the weight of illegals?
Probably not. John Larkin believes all kinds of nonsense he finds on climate change denial web-sites.

https://skepticalscience.com/Hansen-West-Side-Highway.htm

What Hansen was talking about actually happened during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, so Hansen wasn\'t too far off.

Hey Sloman, Hansen also predicted that the Arctic would be free of summer ice by 2018 at the latest:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1988&dat=20080624&id=7mgiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7qkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5563,4123490

That\'s what the reporter might have understood him to be saying. The denialist propaganda machine much prefers quoting what journalists think they heard to what people like Hansen actually said.

We hadn\'t actually found out about the Atlantic Multidecal Oscillation until about 1993

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation

The quote is from 1988, when there wasn\'t a lot of data from which to extrapolate. Even satellite surveillance wasn\'t up to much.

The most recent minimum in Arctic sea ice cover seems to have happened in 2012, when it got down to about 30%. The next one probably won\'t happen in our life-times, unless one the ice sheets starts sliding off into the ocean rapidly - which might be a tipping point.

The problem is that the climate isn\'t all that predictable, and more CO2 in the atmosphere is pushing it into places where it hasn\'t been for the last few million years.
Hansen has been telling people that for some years now.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 23:21:19 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

The problem is that the climate isn\'t all that predictable, and more CO2 in the atmosphere is pushing it into places where it hasn\'t been for the last few million years.
Hansen has been telling people that for some years now.

There isn\'t any more CO2 in the atmosphere though, Bill. No change at
all over the last 120 years at least (and maybe more). Those graphs
you see from the usual suspects are nonsense. Read some respected and
authoratitive old books for a change and wise up.
--

\"You must therefore confess that by \'individual\' you mean no other person
than the bourgeois; than the middle-class owner of property. This person
must indeed be swept out of the way, and made impossible.\"

- Marx & Engels, The Communist Manifesto

 

[server]

TurdSipper Dumb <td@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:fafqpgt77blt2071q218397p5gk7jatn3e@4ax.com:

There isn\'t any more CO2 in the atmosphere though, Bill. No change at
all over the last 120 years at least (and maybe more). Those graphs
you see from the usual suspects are nonsense. Read some respected and
authoratitive old books for a change and wise up.

You\'re an idiot. The Ozone hole over Antarctica is almost as big as
the entire continent. In with that is a HUGE Chlorine cloud as well,
and THAT is what is chewing up the Ozone.

You, motherfucker, spout nonsense. Nothing you cite is
\"respectable\".

And that is aside from the fact that you would not know what
constitutes respectablitiy if your life depended on it.

No sense telling you to wise up as you will never rise above the
intelligence of the bacteria on a freshly laid dog turd.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 6:16:05 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 23:21:19 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

The problem is that the climate isn\'t all that predictable, and more CO2 in the atmosphere is pushing it into places where it hasn\'t been for the last few million years.
Hansen has been telling people that for some years now.

There isn\'t any more CO2 in the atmosphere though, Bill. No change at
all over the last 120 years at least (and maybe more). Those graphs
you see from the usual suspects are nonsense. Read some respected and
authoritative old books for a change and wise up.

You have posted this opinion before, and it is total nonsense. The numbers you are pinning your faith on were all over the shop, and don\'t mean what you would like them to mean.

Keeling was the first guy to use the modern technique - infra-red absorbtion - to estimate atmospheric CO2 levels accurately and over any length of time, and the first thing he found out in 1958 was that he had to put his observatory at the top of Maunu Loa on Hawai before he could get consistent and reliable results.

CSIRO in Australia set up a similar observatory on Cape Grim on the north west tip of Northern Tasmania (about 60 miles west of where I grew up). It has been running since 1978. It doesn\'t shown the 3ppm annual variation you see in the northern hemisphere but the averages over the year tracks Mauna Loa pretty closely.

Your 1890\'s chemists didn\'t have those kinds of tools, and didn\'t realise quite how much local coal fired heating was messing up their observations. You do like your conspiracy theories, and you find the idea that people are lying to you entirely seductive, but it is a very silly delusion.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:21:23 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@nowhere.com
wrote:
snip
“New York City’s West Side Highway will be Underwater by 2009”

With the weight of illegals?
Probably not. John Larkin believes all kinds of nonsense he finds on climate change denial web-sites.

https://skepticalscience.com/Hansen-West-Side-Highway.htm

What Hansen was talking about actually happened during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, so Hansen wasn\'t too far off.

Hey SNIPPERMAN, Hansen also predicted that the Arctic would be free of summer ice by 2018 at the latest:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1988&dat=20080624&id=7mgiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7qkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5563,4123490

That\'s what the reporter might have understood him to be saying. The denialist propaganda machine much prefers quoting what journalists think they heard to what people like Hansen actually said.

Hey SNIPPERMAN, that is what he DID SAY! Now you want to refute it because the prediction was FALSE.

We hadn\'t actually found out about the Atlantic Multidecal Oscillation until about 1993

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation

The quote is from 1988, when there wasn\'t a lot of data from which to extrapolate. Even satellite surveillance wasn\'t up to much.

So what? It was a false prediction intended to trigger political action.

The most recent minimum in Arctic sea ice cover seems to have happened in 2012, when it got down to about 30%. The next one probably won\'t happen in our life-times, unless one the ice sheets starts sliding off into the ocean rapidly - which might be a tipping point.

A fact which many alarmists don\'t know or knowingly ignore.

The problem is that the climate isn\'t all that predictable, and more CO2 in the atmosphere is pushing it into places where it hasn\'t been for the last few million years.

That is your THEORY.

> Hansen has been telling people that for some years now.

Falsely.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:44:10 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:21:23 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology..com
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@nowhere.com
wrote:
snip
“New York City’s West Side Highway will be Underwater by 2009”

With the weight of illegals?
Probably not. John Larkin believes all kinds of nonsense he finds on climate change denial web-sites.

https://skepticalscience.com/Hansen-West-Side-Highway.htm

What Hansen was talking about actually happened during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, so Hansen wasn\'t too far off.

Hey Sloman, Hansen also predicted that the Arctic would be free of summer ice by 2018 at the latest:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1988&dat=20080624&id=7mgiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7qkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5563,4123490

That\'s what the reporter might have understood him to be saying. The denialist propaganda machine much prefers quoting what journalists think they heard to what people like Hansen actually said.

Hey Sloman, that is what he DID SAY!

You could only claim that if you had a transcript of what Hansen actually said to the reporter. What the reporter subsequently thought he said isn\'t all that reliable.

> Now you want to refute it because the prediction was FALSE.

It seems very unlikely that Hansen would have made any such specific prediction back in 1988. Back then, nobody was all that confident that anthropogenic global warming was actually going on - when you have the Altantic Multidecadal Oscillation imposing a lot of low frequency noise on the observer variables it takes a while to get confident that something is actually going on. It looked as if it was, but nobody who knew what he was talking about - and Hansen certainly did - would have been silly enough to be all that specific.

We hadn\'t actually found out about the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation until about 1993.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation

The quote is from 1988, when there wasn\'t a lot of data from which to extrapolate. Even satellite surveillance wasn\'t up to much.

So what? It was a false prediction intended to trigger political action.

Don\'t be silly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_in_the_Balance

published in 1992 - and written by Al Gore with a lot of advice from good climate scientists - was as near as anybody got to political action at the time.

The most recent minimum in Arctic sea ice cover seems to have happened in 2012, when it got down to about 30%. The next one probably won\'t happen in our life-times, unless one the ice sheets starts sliding off into the ocean rapidly - which might be a tipping point.

A fact which many alarmists don\'t know or knowingly ignore.

So what?

The problem is that the climate isn\'t all that predictable, and more CO2 in the atmosphere is pushing it into places where it hasn\'t been for the last few million years.

That is your THEORY.

Scarcely mine. There\'s a whole climate science community thinking about the subject, and it has been getting government support for quite a while now..
The IPCC was set up to 1988 to keep track of their findings and report on them to politicians in terms that politicians could be expected to understand.

Hansen has been telling people that for some years now.

Falsely.

That may be your opinion, but you are an idiot. Since the mid-1990s the fossil carbon extraction industry has been aware that any attempt to reduce anthropgenic global warming will cut into their business, and they have spent quite a bit on climate change denial propaganda. It does target gullible twits like you and John Larkin, because you have to be pretty silly to swallow the kind of guff they have to serve up.

You\'ve outed yourself as a gullible sucker again.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:26:10 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:44:10 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:21:23 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@nowhere.com
wrote:
snip
“New York City’s West Side Highway will be Underwater by 2009”

With the weight of illegals?
Probably not. John Larkin believes all kinds of nonsense he finds on climate change denial web-sites.

https://skepticalscience.com/Hansen-West-Side-Highway.htm

What Hansen was talking about actually happened during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, so Hansen wasn\'t too far off.

Hey Sloman, Hansen also predicted that the Arctic would be free of summer ice by 2018 at the latest:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1988&dat=20080624&id=7mgiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7qkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5563,4123490

That\'s what the reporter might have understood him to be saying. The denialist propaganda machine much prefers quoting what journalists think they heard to what people like Hansen actually said.

Hey Sloman, that is what he DID SAY!

You could only claim that if you had a transcript of what Hansen actually said to the reporter. What the reporter subsequently thought he said isn\'t all that reliable.
Now you want to refute it because the prediction was FALSE.
It seems very unlikely that Hansen would have made any such specific prediction back in 1988. Back then, nobody was all that confident that anthropogenic global warming was actually going on - when you have the Altantic Multidecadal Oscillation imposing a lot of low frequency noise on the observer variables it takes a while to get confident that something is actually going on. It looked as if it was, but nobody who knew what he was talking about - and Hansen certainly did - would have been silly enough to be all that specific.

We hadn\'t actually found out about the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation until about 1993.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation

The quote is from 1988, when there wasn\'t a lot of data from which to extrapolate. Even satellite surveillance wasn\'t up to much.

So what? It was a false prediction intended to trigger political action..
Don\'t be silly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_in_the_Balance

published in 1992 - and written by Al Gore with a lot of advice from good climate scientists - was as near as anybody got to political action at the time.
The most recent minimum in Arctic sea ice cover seems to have happened in 2012, when it got down to about 30%. The next one probably won\'t happen in our life-times, unless one the ice sheets starts sliding off into the ocean rapidly - which might be a tipping point.

A fact which many alarmists don\'t know or knowingly ignore.
So what?
The problem is that the climate isn\'t all that predictable, and more CO2 in the atmosphere is pushing it into places where it hasn\'t been for the last few million years.

That is your THEORY.
Scarcely mine. There\'s a whole climate science community thinking about the subject, and it has been getting government support for quite a while now.
The IPCC was set up to 1988 to keep track of their findings and report on them to politicians in terms that politicians could be expected to understand.
Hansen has been telling people that for some years now.

Falsely.
That may be your opinion, but you are an idiot. Since the mid-1990s the fossil carbon extraction industry has been aware that any attempt to reduce anthropgenic global warming will cut into their business, and they have spent quite a bit on climate change denial propaganda. It does target gullible twits like you and John Larkin, because you have to be pretty silly to swallow the kind of guff they have to serve up.

You\'ve outed yourself as a gullible sucker again.

--
SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

Hey SNIPPERMAN, firstly, anyone who advocates nuking their OWN country to forestall an enemy invasion IS, by definition, AN IDIOT. This means YOU!

Secondly, Hansen is ALSO an idiot, as proven by his FALSE predictions, which were wholly irresponsible for someone who calls himself a \"scientist.\" Of course, he is not - he IS a political advocate.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 5:17:07 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:26:10 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:44:10 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:21:23 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee..org wrote:
On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@nowhere.com
wrote:
snip
“New York City’s West Side Highway will be Underwater by 2009”

With the weight of illegals?
Probably not. John Larkin believes all kinds of nonsense he finds on climate change denial web-sites.

https://skepticalscience.com/Hansen-West-Side-Highway.htm

What Hansen was talking about actually happened during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, so Hansen wasn\'t too far off.

Hey Sloman, Hansen also predicted that the Arctic would be free of summer ice by 2018 at the latest:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1988&dat=20080624&id=7mgiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7qkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5563,4123490

That\'s what the reporter might have understood him to be saying. The denialist propaganda machine much prefers quoting what journalists think they heard to what people like Hansen actually said.

Hey Sloman, that is what he DID SAY!

You could only claim that if you had a transcript of what Hansen actually said to the reporter. What the reporter subsequently thought he said isn\'t all that reliable.
Now you want to refute it because the prediction was FALSE.
It seems very unlikely that Hansen would have made any such specific prediction back in 1988. Back then, nobody was all that confident that anthropogenic global warming was actually going on - when you have the Altantic Multidecadal Oscillation imposing a lot of low frequency noise on the observer variables it takes a while to get confident that something is actually going on. It looked as if it was, but nobody who knew what he was talking about - and Hansen certainly did - would have been silly enough to be all that specific.

We hadn\'t actually found out about the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation until about 1993.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation

The quote is from 1988, when there wasn\'t a lot of data from which to extrapolate. Even satellite surveillance wasn\'t up to much.

So what? It was a false prediction intended to trigger political action.
Don\'t be silly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_in_the_Balance

published in 1992 - and written by Al Gore with a lot of advice from good climate scientists - was as near as anybody got to political action at the time.
The most recent minimum in Arctic sea ice cover seems to have happened in 2012, when it got down to about 30%. The next one probably won\'t happen in our life-times, unless one the ice sheets starts sliding off into the ocean rapidly - which might be a tipping point.

A fact which many alarmists don\'t know or knowingly ignore.
So what?
The problem is that the climate isn\'t all that predictable, and more CO2 in the atmosphere is pushing it into places where it hasn\'t been for the last few million years.

That is your THEORY.
Scarcely mine. There\'s a whole climate science community thinking about the subject, and it has been getting government support for quite a while now.
The IPCC was set up to 1988 to keep track of their findings and report on them to politicians in terms that politicians could be expected to understand.
Hansen has been telling people that for some years now.

Falsely.
That may be your opinion, but you are an idiot. Since the mid-1990s the fossil carbon extraction industry has been aware that any attempt to reduce anthropgenic global warming will cut into their business, and they have spent quite a bit on climate change denial propaganda. It does target gullible twits like you and John Larkin, because you have to be pretty silly to swallow the kind of guff they have to serve up.

You\'ve outed yourself as a gullible sucker again.

Hey Sloman, firstly, anyone who advocates nuking their OWN country to forestall an enemy invasion IS, by definition, AN IDIOT. This means YOU!

It would be a very small and isolated part of it, and since both the US and the Australian governments have a history of nuking bits of their own countries in nuclear tests, the idiot here is you.

> Secondly, Hansen is ALSO an idiot, as proven by his FALSE predictions, which were wholly irresponsible for someone who calls himself a \"scientist.\"

But you haven\'t cited any prediction he made - merely what some idiot reporter thought that he had said.

The denialist propaganda machine is great at digging these misrepresentations. and using them to make false claims about the people misrepresented.

> Of course, he is not - he IS a political advocate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen

He has been forced into that position by political assaults from the fossil carbon extraction industry. but he was a scientist long before he was forced into political activism by those greedy creeps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

devotes it\'s first chapter to an example of precisely how unpleasant this kind of attention can be,and goes on to point out that some of the same people started off telling the public that smoking tobacco didn\'t really damage your health (despite the scientific evidence). It\'s the least edifying aspect of US capitalism.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[server]

Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:77b2f208-e793-42ab-bab9-a269f0cb0454n@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 6:16:05 AM UTC+11, Cursitor
Doom wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 23:21:19 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

The problem is that the climate isn\'t all that predictable, and
more CO2
in the atmosphere is pushing it into places where it hasn\'t been
for the last few million years.
Hansen has been telling people that for some years now.

There isn\'t any more CO2 in the atmosphere though, Bill. No
change at all over the last 120 years at least (and maybe more).
Those graphs you see from the usual suspects are nonsense. Read
some respected and authoritative old books for a change and wise
up.

You have posted this opinion before, and it is total nonsense. The
numbers you are pinning your faith on were all over the shop, and
don\'t mean what you would like them to mean.

Keeling was the first guy to use the modern technique - infra-red
absorbtion - to estimate atmospheric CO2 levels accurately and
over any length of time, and the first thing he found out in 1958
was that he had to put his observatory at the top of Maunu Loa on
Hawai before he could get consistent and reliable results.

CSIRO in Australia set up a similar observatory on Cape Grim on
the north west tip of Northern Tasmania (about 60 miles west of
where I grew up). It has been running since 1978. It doesn\'t shown
the 3ppm annual variation you see in the northern hemisphere but
the averages over the year tracks Mauna Loa pretty closely.

Your 1890\'s chemists didn\'t have those kinds of tools, and didn\'t
realise quite how much local coal fired heating was messing up
their observations. You do like your conspiracy theories, and you
find the idea that people are lying to you entirely seductive, but
it is a very silly delusion.

Thanks for pinning the dope down with the actual facts.

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 22:17:03 -0800 (PST), Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:26:10 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:44:10 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:21:23 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@nowhere.com
wrote:
snip
“New York City’s West Side Highway will be Underwater by 2009”

With the weight of illegals?
Probably not. John Larkin believes all kinds of nonsense he finds on climate change denial web-sites.

https://skepticalscience.com/Hansen-West-Side-Highway.htm

What Hansen was talking about actually happened during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, so Hansen wasn\'t too far off.

Hey Sloman, Hansen also predicted that the Arctic would be free of summer ice by 2018 at the latest:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1988&dat=20080624&id=7mgiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7qkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5563,4123490

That\'s what the reporter might have understood him to be saying. The denialist propaganda machine much prefers quoting what journalists think they heard to what people like Hansen actually said.

Hey Sloman, that is what he DID SAY!

You could only claim that if you had a transcript of what Hansen actually said to the reporter. What the reporter subsequently thought he said isn\'t all that reliable.
Now you want to refute it because the prediction was FALSE.
It seems very unlikely that Hansen would have made any such specific prediction back in 1988. Back then, nobody was all that confident that anthropogenic global warming was actually going on - when you have the Altantic Multidecadal Oscillation imposing a lot of low frequency noise on the observer variables it takes a while to get confident that something is actually going on. It looked as if it was, but nobody who knew what he was talking about - and Hansen certainly did - would have been silly enough to be all that specific.

We hadn\'t actually found out about the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation until about 1993.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation

The quote is from 1988, when there wasn\'t a lot of data from which to extrapolate. Even satellite surveillance wasn\'t up to much.

So what? It was a false prediction intended to trigger political action.
Don\'t be silly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_in_the_Balance

published in 1992 - and written by Al Gore with a lot of advice from good climate scientists - was as near as anybody got to political action at the time.
The most recent minimum in Arctic sea ice cover seems to have happened in 2012, when it got down to about 30%. The next one probably won\'t happen in our life-times, unless one the ice sheets starts sliding off into the ocean rapidly - which might be a tipping point.

A fact which many alarmists don\'t know or knowingly ignore.
So what?
The problem is that the climate isn\'t all that predictable, and more CO2 in the atmosphere is pushing it into places where it hasn\'t been for the last few million years.

That is your THEORY.
Scarcely mine. There\'s a whole climate science community thinking about the subject, and it has been getting government support for quite a while now.
The IPCC was set up to 1988 to keep track of their findings and report on them to politicians in terms that politicians could be expected to understand.
Hansen has been telling people that for some years now.

Falsely.
That may be your opinion, but you are an idiot. Since the mid-1990s the fossil carbon extraction industry has been aware that any attempt to reduce anthropgenic global warming will cut into their business, and they have spent quite a bit on climate change denial propaganda. It does target gullible twits like you and John Larkin, because you have to be pretty silly to swallow the kind of guff they have to serve up.

You\'ve outed yourself as a gullible sucker again.

--
SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

Hey SNIPPERMAN, firstly, anyone who advocates nuking their OWN country to forestall an enemy invasion IS, by definition, AN IDIOT. This means YOU!

Secondly, Hansen is ALSO an idiot, as proven by his FALSE predictions, which were wholly irresponsible for someone who calls himself a \"scientist.\" Of course, he is not - he IS a political advocate.

For someone who claims to be so smart, Bill Sloman is incredibly
stoopid so much of the time. Mauna Loa indeed! He\'s too retarded to
see what\'s going on here. When people like myself went to the trouble
of actually putting the Global Warming \'science\' to the test and found
it didn\'t add up, they began shifting the goalposts. Notice how all
the measurements have to have been carried out in inaccessible places
to be valid now? Like the tops of mountains in remote countries where
no one ever goes. One day, drones will be some commonplace that us
ordinary saps will be able to carry out measurements on those peaks,
but they\'ll then invalidate that method by saying it\'s flawed and the
only place to take really valid measurements from is the ISS!
You remember how it all began with claims over the great demon CO2?
Well, now we\'ve got them on the run over that, they don\'t mention it
so much any more. They now talk generally about \"carbon\" and are
slowly switching the attention away to methane (CH4) because it\'s
still carbon based, but much much harder to measure and there are no
reliable readings for atmospheric methane going back very far at all.
So if they can convince the gullible like Sloman that it\'s really
methane that\'s the big issue and sweep CO2 quietly under the rug of
history, then they will have once again excluded those they see as
interfering nuisance \'amateurs\' and \'plebs\' from finding the evidence
to contradict them. Poor old Bill is too *dumb* to be able to see all
this, but fortunately others all over the world are now waking up
*fast* LOL.
--

\"You must therefore confess that by \'individual\' you mean no other person
than the bourgeois; than the middle-class owner of property. This person
must indeed be swept out of the way, and made impossible.\"

- Marx & Engels, The Communist Manifesto

 

[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 10:48:59 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 5:17:07 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:26:10 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:44:10 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:21:23 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@nowhere.com
wrote:
snip
“New York City’s West Side Highway will be Underwater by 2009”

With the weight of illegals?
Probably not. John Larkin believes all kinds of nonsense he finds on climate change denial web-sites.

https://skepticalscience.com/Hansen-West-Side-Highway.htm

What Hansen was talking about actually happened during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, so Hansen wasn\'t too far off.

Hey Sloman, Hansen also predicted that the Arctic would be free of summer ice by 2018 at the latest:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1988&dat=20080624&id=7mgiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7qkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5563,4123490

That\'s what the reporter might have understood him to be saying. The denialist propaganda machine much prefers quoting what journalists think they heard to what people like Hansen actually said.

Hey Sloman, that is what he DID SAY!

You could only claim that if you had a transcript of what Hansen actually said to the reporter. What the reporter subsequently thought he said isn\'t all that reliable.
Now you want to refute it because the prediction was FALSE.
It seems very unlikely that Hansen would have made any such specific prediction back in 1988. Back then, nobody was all that confident that anthropogenic global warming was actually going on - when you have the Altantic Multidecadal Oscillation imposing a lot of low frequency noise on the observer variables it takes a while to get confident that something is actually going on. It looked as if it was, but nobody who knew what he was talking about - and Hansen certainly did - would have been silly enough to be all that specific.

We hadn\'t actually found out about the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation until about 1993.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation

The quote is from 1988, when there wasn\'t a lot of data from which to extrapolate. Even satellite surveillance wasn\'t up to much.

So what? It was a false prediction intended to trigger political action.
Don\'t be silly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_in_the_Balance

published in 1992 - and written by Al Gore with a lot of advice from good climate scientists - was as near as anybody got to political action at the time.
The most recent minimum in Arctic sea ice cover seems to have happened in 2012, when it got down to about 30%. The next one probably won\'t happen in our life-times, unless one the ice sheets starts sliding off into the ocean rapidly - which might be a tipping point.

A fact which many alarmists don\'t know or knowingly ignore.
So what?
The problem is that the climate isn\'t all that predictable, and more CO2 in the atmosphere is pushing it into places where it hasn\'t been for the last few million years.

That is your THEORY.
Scarcely mine. There\'s a whole climate science community thinking about the subject, and it has been getting government support for quite a while now.
The IPCC was set up to 1988 to keep track of their findings and report on them to politicians in terms that politicians could be expected to understand.
Hansen has been telling people that for some years now.

Falsely.
That may be your opinion, but you are an idiot. Since the mid-1990s the fossil carbon extraction industry has been aware that any attempt to reduce anthropgenic global warming will cut into their business, and they have spent quite a bit on climate change denial propaganda. It does target gullible twits like you and John Larkin, because you have to be pretty silly to swallow the kind of guff they have to serve up.

You\'ve outed yourself as a gullible sucker again.

Hey Sloman, firstly, anyone who advocates nuking their OWN country to forestall an enemy invasion IS, by definition, AN IDIOT. This means YOU!

It would be a very small and isolated part of it, and since both the US and the Australian governments have a history of nuking bits of their own countries in nuclear tests, the idiot here is you.

LOL! You got to be FUCKING KIDDING US!! It would be just a SMALL NUKE??? SNIPPERMAN, you have LOST YOUR FUCKING MIND!!!!! Smart people DON\'T nuke themselves!!!!!!! Why don\'t you just blow your head off with a shotgun? Oh, you don\'t OWN a shotgun, so you will have to improvise. I recommend getting some rope and tying it to a tall object as you jump off a chair.

I SNIPPED the rest of your DRIVEL out of a respect for decorum.

 

[Flyguy]

On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 7:03:14 PM UTC-8, Flyguy wrote:

On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 10:48:59 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 5:17:07 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:26:10 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:44:10 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:21:23 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@nowhere.com
wrote:
snip
“New York City’s West Side Highway will be Underwater by 2009”

With the weight of illegals?
Probably not. John Larkin believes all kinds of nonsense he finds on climate change denial web-sites.

https://skepticalscience.com/Hansen-West-Side-Highway.htm

What Hansen was talking about actually happened during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, so Hansen wasn\'t too far off.

Hey Sloman, Hansen also predicted that the Arctic would be free of summer ice by 2018 at the latest:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1988&dat=20080624&id=7mgiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7qkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5563,4123490

That\'s what the reporter might have understood him to be saying.. The denialist propaganda machine much prefers quoting what journalists think they heard to what people like Hansen actually said.

Hey Sloman, that is what he DID SAY!

You could only claim that if you had a transcript of what Hansen actually said to the reporter. What the reporter subsequently thought he said isn\'t all that reliable.
Now you want to refute it because the prediction was FALSE.
It seems very unlikely that Hansen would have made any such specific prediction back in 1988. Back then, nobody was all that confident that anthropogenic global warming was actually going on - when you have the Altantic Multidecadal Oscillation imposing a lot of low frequency noise on the observer variables it takes a while to get confident that something is actually going on. It looked as if it was, but nobody who knew what he was talking about - and Hansen certainly did - would have been silly enough to be all that specific.

We hadn\'t actually found out about the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation until about 1993.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation

The quote is from 1988, when there wasn\'t a lot of data from which to extrapolate. Even satellite surveillance wasn\'t up to much.

So what? It was a false prediction intended to trigger political action.
Don\'t be silly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_in_the_Balance

published in 1992 - and written by Al Gore with a lot of advice from good climate scientists - was as near as anybody got to political action at the time.
The most recent minimum in Arctic sea ice cover seems to have happened in 2012, when it got down to about 30%. The next one probably won\'t happen in our life-times, unless one the ice sheets starts sliding off into the ocean rapidly - which might be a tipping point.

A fact which many alarmists don\'t know or knowingly ignore.
So what?
The problem is that the climate isn\'t all that predictable, and more CO2 in the atmosphere is pushing it into places where it hasn\'t been for the last few million years.

That is your THEORY.
Scarcely mine. There\'s a whole climate science community thinking about the subject, and it has been getting government support for quite a while now.
The IPCC was set up to 1988 to keep track of their findings and report on them to politicians in terms that politicians could be expected to understand.
Hansen has been telling people that for some years now.

Falsely.
That may be your opinion, but you are an idiot. Since the mid-1990s the fossil carbon extraction industry has been aware that any attempt to reduce anthropgenic global warming will cut into their business, and they have spent quite a bit on climate change denial propaganda. It does target gullible twits like you and John Larkin, because you have to be pretty silly to swallow the kind of guff they have to serve up.

You\'ve outed yourself as a gullible sucker again.

Hey Sloman, firstly, anyone who advocates nuking their OWN country to forestall an enemy invasion IS, by definition, AN IDIOT. This means YOU!

It would be a very small and isolated part of it, and since both the US and the Australian governments have a history of nuking bits of their own countries in nuclear tests, the idiot here is you.
LOL! You got to be FUCKING KIDDING US!! It would be just a SMALL NUKE??? SNIPPERMAN, you have LOST YOUR FUCKING MIND!!!!! Smart people DON\'T nuke themselves!!!!!!! Why don\'t you just blow your head off with a shotgun? Oh, you don\'t OWN a shotgun, so you will have to improvise. I recommend getting some rope and tying it to a tall object as you jump off a chair.

I SNIPPED the rest of your DRIVEL out of a respect for decorum.

I have to correct one obvious error: even DUMB people don\'t nuke themselves.. SNIPPERMAN has a mental defect that goes WAY BEYOND dumbness!

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 12:37:05 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 22:17:03 -0800 (PST), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:26:10 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:44:10 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:21:23 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@nowhere.com> wrote:

<snip>

Secondly, Hansen is ALSO an idiot, as proven by his FALSE predictions, which were wholly irresponsible for someone who calls himself a \"scientist.\" Of course, he is not - he IS a political advocate.

For someone who claims to be so smart, Bill Sloman is incredibly stoopid so much of the time.

Intelligent enough to know when idiots like Flyguy and Cursitor Doom are recycling denialist propaganda. They do resent being outed as idiots

> Mauna Loa indeed! He\'s too retarded to see what\'s going on here. When people like myself went to the trouble of actually putting the Global Warming \'science\' to the test and found it didn\'t add up, they began shifting the goalposts. Notice how all the measurements have to have been carried out in inaccessible places to be valid now? Like the tops of mountains in remote countries where no one ever goes.

https://history.aip.org/climate/timeline.htm

does talk about the early work on global warming - the stuff that Cursitor Doom imagines that he has re-discovered. It\'s been up since about 2003.

There\'s nothing inaccessible about the Mauna Loa and Cape Grim observatories - you can take a plane and hire a car and drive to either place any time you want to. Hannah Gadsby grew up even closer to Cape Grim than I did. The problem that these remote observatories evade is that human burn a lot of fossil carbon, ad if you aren\'t a long way down-wind from that kind of CO2 emission you get a lot of variation in the CO2 level you measure, all of it biased towards higher values, like the one\'s Cursitor Doom found in his publications from around 1900 and earlier.

> One day, drones will be some commonplace that us ordinary saps will be able to carry out measurements on those peaks, but they\'ll then invalidate that method by saying it\'s flawed and the only place to take really valid measurements from is the ISS!

Ordinary saps would be able to make their own measurements at both places. No need for any drone.

https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Digital-Temperature-Humidity-Diagnosis/dp/B01KTJL6OK?th=1

offers a handheld monitor for $135. The discussions of the results people see do make it clear that you own exhalations can push up the readings appreciably.

> You remember how it all began with claims over the great demon CO2? Well, now we\'ve got them on the run over that, they don\'t mention it so much any more.

Cursitor Doom hasn\'t got anybody on the run - he does run off at the mouth a lot, but that\'s it.

>They now talk generally about \"carbon\" and are slowly switching the attention away to methane (CH4) because it\'s still carbon based, but much much harder to measure and there are no reliable readings for atmospheric methane going back very far at all.

It\'s also a much more potent greenhouse gas, but atmospheric levels are pretty low - it\'s half life in the atmosphere is about 9 years, eventually oxidising to CO2 and water.

> So if they can convince the gullible like Sloman that it\'s really methane that\'s the big issue and sweep CO2 quietly under the rug of history, then they will have once again excluded those they see as interfering nuisance \'amateurs\' and \'plebs\' from finding the evidence to contradict them.

Methane is less of a problem than CO2 because there is less of it, and it doesn\'t last. It is easier to minimise emissions, and it is worth doing, but it doesn\'t \"sweep O2 under the rug\",

> Poor old Bill is too *dumb* to be able to see all this, but fortunately others all over the world are now waking up *fast* LOL.

Gullible twits like Cursitor Doom fall for remarkably stupid climate change denial propaganda. He is stupid enough to gloat about his gullibility, and conceited enough to think that it is evidence of his \"superior\" intelligence. Pity about that.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 2:03:14 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 10:48:59 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 5:17:07 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:26:10 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:44:10 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:21:23 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@nowhere.com> wrote:

<snip>

You\'ve outed yourself as a gullible sucker again.

Hey Sloman, firstly, anyone who advocates nuking their OWN country to forestall an enemy invasion IS, by definition, AN IDIOT. This means YOU!

It would be a very small and isolated part of it, and since both the US and the Australian governments have a history of nuking bits of their own countries in nuclear tests, the idiot here is you.

LOL! You got to be FUCKING KIDDING US!! It would be just a Small nuke??? Sloman, you have LOST YOUR FUCKING MIND!!!!! Smart people DON\'T nuke themselves!!!!!!!

So there were never any nuclear tests in the US or in Australia?

Flyguy refuses to think about project Plowshare.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare

Detonating a relatively clean fusion bomb in the centre of an iron mine would make that iron ore deposit inaccessible for quite a while, but it wouldn\'t spread any significant radioactivity around - as project Plowshare demonstrated.

This is all much too complicated for Flyguy to get what\'s left of his tiny mind around so he concentrates on the details that he thinks that he can understand.

It does illustrate what a total idiot he is, so I\'m happy to repost the more obviously idiotic bits in the hope that others will find them as funny as I do.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 2:06:58 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 7:03:14 PM UTC-8, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 10:48:59 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 5:17:07 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:26:10 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:44:10 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:21:23 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill.....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c....@nowhere.com> wrote:

<snip>

> I have to correct one obvious error: even DUMB people don\'t nuke themselves. Sloman has a mental defect that goes WAY BEYOND dumbness!

Flyguy hasn\'t noticed that you have to be fairly clever to get your hands on a nuclear weapon that works. You can\'t go to your local gun shop and buy one, and the people who have neatly packaged nuclear weapons to hand take care that they don\'t fall into the wrong hands.

Flyguy talking about other people\'s mental defects has a fairly high ironic content. He would seem to be our leading example of senile dementia - Fred Bloggs is going much the same way but isn\'t quite as far gone yet.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 7:44:41 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 2:03:14 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 10:48:59 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 5:17:07 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:26:10 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:44:10 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:21:23 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, bill.....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:43:26 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 16:55:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c....@nowhere.com> wrote:

snip
You\'ve outed yourself as a gullible sucker again.

Hey Sloman, firstly, anyone who advocates nuking their OWN country to forestall an enemy invasion IS, by definition, AN IDIOT. This means YOU!

It would be a very small and isolated part of it, and since both the US and the Australian governments have a history of nuking bits of their own countries in nuclear tests, the idiot here is you.

LOL! You got to be FUCKING KIDDING US!! It would be just a Small nuke??? Sloman, you have LOST YOUR FUCKING MIND!!!!! Smart people DON\'T nuke themselves!!!!!!!

So there were never any nuclear tests in the US or in Australia?

Flyguy refuses to think about project Plowshare.

An IDIOT idea from idiots like SNIPPERMAN that never went anywhere! Try READING your own reference:

Negative impacts from Project Plowshare\'s tests generated significant public opposition, which eventually led to the program\'s termination in 1977.[5] These consequences included tritiated water (projected to increase by CER Geonuclear Corporation to a level of 2% of the then-maximum level for drinking water)[6] and the deposition of fallout from radioactive material being injected into the atmosphere before underground testing was mandated by treaty.