OT - Wide Format Printers for Schematics

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:06:31 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:42:39 -0400, the renowned "Tam/WB2TT"
t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote:


"Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:41:59 -0700, the renowned Tim Wescott
tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:
So who makes a good economical plotter? Seems like HP is out of that
business.

https://www.designjet.hp.com/PreSalesSelect.html

Really those are inkjets, which I think he was trying to avoid....

Used HP pen-plotters are really cheap on E-bay, problem is shipping
the large ones will add up to some money. (E-size plotters often
go for $20-$30 there, but they'll cost you >$100 to ship.) If you
get the stand with them (more shipping hassle) they will roll away
behind furniture.

There are workarounds to the pen availability issues (I even see some
pen adaptors on E-bay right now, naturally they cost more than the
plotters!).

Tim.

We used to have an HP at work about 15 years ago. Took 15 minutes to plot an
11 x 17 schematic page.

Tam

Plotters are cool, but 15 minutes of whirring and clunking is a bit
much for something that could pop out of a printer in seconds.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
Unless it's an inkjet... several minutes for 11x17 on an hp1120C :-(

Is there such a thing as a _laser_ plotter?

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:06:31 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:42:39 -0400, the renowned "Tam/WB2TT"
t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote:

snip

Plotters are cool, but 15 minutes of whirring and clunking is a bit
much for something that could pop out of a printer in seconds.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Unless it's an inkjet... several minutes for 11x17 on an hp1120C :-(

Is there such a thing as a _laser_ plotter?

Yes; but the last time I checked they sell for about $80,000 each. Used for
maps I think!
 
"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:06:31 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:42:39 -0400, the renowned "Tam/WB2TT"
t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote:


"Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message
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Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:41:59 -0700, the renowned Tim Wescott
tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:
So who makes a good economical plotter? Seems like HP is out of that
business.

https://www.designjet.hp.com/PreSalesSelect.html

Really those are inkjets, which I think he was trying to avoid....

Used HP pen-plotters are really cheap on E-bay, problem is shipping
the large ones will add up to some money. (E-size plotters often
go for $20-$30 there, but they'll cost you >$100 to ship.) If you
get the stand with them (more shipping hassle) they will roll away
behind furniture.

There are workarounds to the pen availability issues (I even see some
pen adaptors on E-bay right now, naturally they cost more than the
plotters!).

Tim.

We used to have an HP at work about 15 years ago. Took 15 minutes to plot
an
11 x 17 schematic page.

Tam

Plotters are cool, but 15 minutes of whirring and clunking is a bit
much for something that could pop out of a printer in seconds.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Unless it's an inkjet... several minutes for 11x17 on an hp1120C :-(

Is there such a thing as a _laser_ plotter?

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
In the interest of science, I just timed an Orcad 11 x 17 print job on the
Epson 1270 inkjet printer : 80 seconds. Unless you have color schematics,
who cares how much the color ink cartrage costs.

Tam
 
Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:30:45 -0700, the renowned Tim Wescott
tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:


Any thoughts on economical ways to print pages wider than 8-1/2 inch?
HP has some B-size laser printers that are way over my budget, and a
"poster" size inkjet that looks like it'll do B-size for about $300.
Are there any other options out there for less than $1000? Less than $500?

TIA.


I use a wide-carriage Epson inkjet printer (color)- the Photo 1280-
cheap enough to buy- only about $500-$600 US, but frankly I'd not
really recommend it- if you don't use it often the printhead gums up
and it seems to often need expensive ink cartridges.
As long as it could do A size I wouldn't have a problem with not
printing often enough. Do the ink cartridges seem to be more expensive
than ordinary ink jet cartridges?
A nice low-volume tabloid-format color laser would solve the problem,
but they don't exist for a reasonable price AFAIK. I do see used
HP8000's for quite cheap (< 1000 US with duplexer), but I'd strongly
resist buying a used laser printer.
Yes, that would be like buying a millstone to hang around my neck --
even at zero price I'd either be fixing it all the time or I'd have to
pay someone, and I'm out in the boonies.
--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
 
"Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message
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Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:41:59 -0700, the renowned Tim Wescott
tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:
So who makes a good economical plotter? Seems like HP is out of that
business.

https://www.designjet.hp.com/PreSalesSelect.html

Really those are inkjets, which I think he was trying to avoid....

Used HP pen-plotters are really cheap on E-bay, problem is shipping
the large ones will add up to some money. (E-size plotters often
go for $20-$30 there, but they'll cost you >$100 to ship.) If you
get the stand with them (more shipping hassle) they will roll away
behind furniture.

There are workarounds to the pen availability issues (I even see some
pen adaptors on E-bay right now, naturally they cost more than the
plotters!).

Tim.
We used to have an HP at work about 15 years ago. Took 15 minutes to plot an
11 x 17 schematic page.

Tam
 

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