OT: Why can\'t non-EU websites ignore EU cookie laws/GDPR?...

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Darius the Dumb has posted yet one more #veryStupidByLowIQaa article.
 
SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
On 19/09/2023 16:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2023 16:50, John Larkin wrote:
Is there a Firefox addon that automatically answers the stupid cookie
consent question?

Problem is it is different every time

It would have been much better if the EU had mandated a single click to
reject all cookie requests (and to reject alternative methods of
tracking) or better still to have mandated honouring the browser\'s Do
Not Track requests.
.... and then how does half thw web actually work? Cookies are
necessary (or at least make things *much* more usable) on all sorts of
web sites.

--
Chris Green
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On 20/09/2023 11:11, Chris Green wrote:
SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
On 19/09/2023 16:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2023 16:50, John Larkin wrote:
Is there a Firefox addon that automatically answers the stupid cookie
consent question?

Problem is it is different every time

It would have been much better if the EU had mandated a single click to
reject all cookie requests (and to reject alternative methods of
tracking) or better still to have mandated honouring the browser\'s Do
Not Track requests.

... and then how does half thw web actually work? Cookies are
necessary (or at least make things *much* more usable) on all sorts of
web sites.

The only ones that are useful to the user are ones that remember login
details so you only have to enter the password, or nothing at all on a
non-critical site such as Flickr or YouTube.

--
Max Demian
 
Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 20/09/2023 11:11, Chris Green wrote:
SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
On 19/09/2023 16:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2023 16:50, John Larkin wrote:
Is there a Firefox addon that automatically answers the stupid cookie
consent question?

Problem is it is different every time

It would have been much better if the EU had mandated a single click to
reject all cookie requests (and to reject alternative methods of
tracking) or better still to have mandated honouring the browser\'s Do
Not Track requests.

... and then how does half thw web actually work? Cookies are
necessary (or at least make things *much* more usable) on all sorts of
web sites.

The only ones that are useful to the user are ones that remember login
details so you only have to enter the password, or nothing at all on a
non-critical site such as Flickr or YouTube.
All (well, as far as I know, all) shopping sites use cookies to store
your shopping basket. It\'s not just long term cookies that are useful.

--
Chris Green
·
 
On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 1:50:46 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 09:03:44 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
C...@nospam.com> wrote:

If an American company with an American server doesn\'t obey EU cookie/GDPR/privacy laws, what\'s the EU gonna do? They can\'t get someone into trouble for breaking a law which only exists in another country surely? All they could do is block the website in the EU. If all companies refused to obey the legislation, the EU would have to block thousands of sites, then their population would see sense and get the law overturned. Or.... all sites outside the EU could simply check the IP address, and if the user is in the EU, display an alternate page complaining about the stupid law and saying we refuse to deal with Europeans. For goodness sake, fight back against stupidity!
I was working with a group in Oxford and I asked them if our
tomographic atom probe machine would have to be tested for CE
compliance. They all laughed out loud.

\"You don\'t understand. CE means Can\'t Enforce.\"

They buy CE stickers in bulk.

Is there a Firefox addon that automatically answers the stupid cookie
consent question?

Oxford is a wonderful, magical place.

If you want science, go to Cambridge. When my wife was an academic there she had to field questions from Brian Josephson (who wasn\'t exactly what you\'d hope for in a science Nobel prize winner).
Max Perutz was better value (and got his for Chemistry), but we didn\'t move in that social circle.

Oxford is artier. They may go in for magic. J K Rowling did want to go to Oxford and it\'s images do show up in the Harry Potter books. Oxford certainly had better restaurants.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 20/09/2023 11:11, Chris Green wrote:
SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
On 19/09/2023 16:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2023 16:50, John Larkin wrote:
Is there a Firefox addon that automatically answers the stupid cookie
consent question?

Problem is it is different every time

It would have been much better if the EU had mandated a single click to
reject all cookie requests (and to reject alternative methods of
tracking) or better still to have mandated honouring the browser\'s Do
Not Track requests.

... and then how does half thw web actually work? Cookies are
necessary (or at least make things *much* more usable) on all sorts of
web sites.

Sites already let you select to only accept strictly necessary cookies,
but that often means clicking down a list of dozens of others to turn
them off individually. If the one click feature or the honour Do Not
Track feature were mandated, multiple clicks would not be necessary.
 
On 20/09/2023 13:18, Chris Green wrote:
Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 20/09/2023 11:11, Chris Green wrote:
SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
On 19/09/2023 16:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2023 16:50, John Larkin wrote:
Is there a Firefox addon that automatically answers the stupid cookie
consent question?

Problem is it is different every time

It would have been much better if the EU had mandated a single click to
reject all cookie requests (and to reject alternative methods of
tracking) or better still to have mandated honouring the browser\'s Do
Not Track requests.

... and then how does half thw web actually work? Cookies are
necessary (or at least make things *much* more usable) on all sorts of
web sites.

The only ones that are useful to the user are ones that remember login
details so you only have to enter the password, or nothing at all on a
non-critical site such as Flickr or YouTube.

All (well, as far as I know, all) shopping sites use cookies to store
your shopping basket. It\'s not just long term cookies that are useful.

And rejecting cookies (using the website\'s rejection method, not your
browser\'s) normally leaves the necessary cookies enabled and refuses the
rest. That is the bit I hate, as rejection often means un-clicking
dozens of items in a list.
 

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