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Rich Grise

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The US is a spacefaring nation once again! I saw the launch live
on TeeVee. It was spectacular, as usual, and the anticipation
was electric in the air. When they hit orbit, it was as if the
country breathed a collective sigh of relief - very much like
the feeling the other day when I finally got the viruses
cleaned out of the computer and the software works flawlessly
once again.

Now, THIS is the kind of stuff that Americans deserve to be
proud of!

God Bless America!
Rich
 
"Rich Grise" <richgrise@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.26.16.14.18.131996@example.net...
The US is a spacefaring nation once again! I saw the launch live
on TeeVee. It was spectacular, as usual, and the anticipation
was electric in the air. When they hit orbit, it was as if the
country breathed a collective sigh of relief - very much like
the feeling the other day when I finally got the viruses
cleaned out of the computer and the software works flawlessly
once again.

Now, THIS is the kind of stuff that Americans deserve to be
proud of!

God Bless America!
Rich
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be proud when they are all safe on the ground!
Pat
 
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:12:05 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net>
wrote:


and the software works flawlessly
once again.
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Wow, what software is that?

John
 
and the software works flawlessly once again.
Rich Grise

Wow, what software is that?
John Larkin
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I'm sure Rich will be pleased to know
that his tribulations were so memorable. 8-(
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/97977c2186caa58e/86a06af31900695a?q=Windows+AutoCAD+virus-crap
 
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:50:13 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:12:05 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net
wrote:

and the software works flawlessly
once again.

Wow, what software is that?
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Autocad, mostly. I also don't get that "Ending program... please wait"
box with "explorer.exe" in the title bar. ;-) (this is on my own comp,
of course.)

Turns out W2K really isn't that bad of an operating system, as long
as you don't let the viruses/trojans/worms/spyware/adware/etcware in.
;-)

I like the security of Linux, but Windows does, in fact, have the
prettier eye candy. :)

Cheers!
Rich
 
Turns out W2K really isn't that bad of an operating system, as long
as you don't let the viruses/trojans/worms/spyware/adware/etcware in.
;-)
Rich Grise
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The whole *broken by design* thing is the clincher.

Reminds me of the guy that falls of the top of a 70-story building.
At the 50-story mark a guy in a window asks, "How's it going?"

"So far, so good."
 
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:50:13 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:12:05 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net
wrote:


and the software works flawlessly
once again.

Wow, what software is that?
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The Shuttle On-Board Software is pretty close.

--
Keith
 
Rich Grise wrote:

The US is a spacefaring nation once again! I saw the launch live
on TeeVee. It was spectacular, as usual, and the anticipation
was electric in the air. When they hit orbit, it was as if the
country breathed a collective sigh of relief - very much like
the feeling the other day when I finally got the viruses
cleaned out of the computer and the software works flawlessly
once again.

Now, THIS is the kind of stuff that Americans deserve to be
proud of!

God Bless America!
Rich
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It was indeed good to see it fly again but what *was* that crap about
the Moon and Mars ?

Graham
 
In article <42E845C9.B3140E27@hotmail.com>,
Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
[...]
It was indeed good to see it fly again but what *was* that crap about
the Moon and Mars ?
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Working on the medical problems related to a trip to Mars may be a good
idea even if the trip doesn't happen any time soon. We really don't
understand the details of how the bone loss happens. Being able to cause
bone growth and loss at will would be medically useful.

In a few billion years, the Sun will start to become a red giant. The
earth will get too hot to live on at some point. Moving to Mars would be
a good stop gap. Becoming a space fairing race is the only long term
option.

A low energy trip to Mars, would be a 3 year round trip. (Back around
1492ish, trips of about that length were done) Desiging a ship for a trip
that long will require a lot of very good engineering but it won't require
any new science. If we can solve the medical issues, a Mars trip can be
done.

As Jon Steward pointed out: Republicans are running up a large debt and
working to make a colony on Mars, so obviously they are planning on
running out on the check.

--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge
 
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:47:55 -0400, keith wrote:

The Shuttle On-Board Software is pretty close.
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SOB software?

There's plenty of that around :)

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)
 
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:08:38 +0000 (UTC), kensmith@green.rahul.net
(Ken Smith) wrote:

[snip]
As Jon Steward pointed out: Republicans are running up a large debt and
working to make a colony on Mars, so obviously they are planning on
running out on the check.
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A little slow today aren't you? We're going to ship all the Democrats
there ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:08:38 +0000 (UTC), kensmith@green.rahul.net
(Ken Smith) wrote:

In article <42E845C9.B3140E27@hotmail.com>,
Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
[...]
It was indeed good to see it fly again but what *was* that crap about
the Moon and Mars ?

Working on the medical problems related to a trip to Mars may be a good
idea even if the trip doesn't happen any time soon. We really don't
understand the details of how the bone loss happens. Being able to cause
bone growth and loss at will would be medically useful.
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So spend the money on medical research. Dumping a billion dollars on
each shuttle flight is about as inefficient a way to do medical
research imaginable.


In a few billion years, the Sun will start to become a red giant. The
earth will get too hot to live on at some point. Moving to Mars would be
a good stop gap. Becoming a space fairing race is the only long term
option.
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No, one could also move earth to a further-out orbit. Turns out that
it's not hard.

John
 
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:55:49 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]
No, one could also move earth to a further-out orbit. Turns out that
it's not hard.

John
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Oh? Really ?:)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:55:49 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

No, one could also move earth to a further-out orbit. Turns out that
it's not hard.

John


Oh? Really ?:)

...Jim Thompson
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I confess, I want to hear more about this.

Graham
 
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:10:31 +0100, Pooh Bear
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:55:49 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

No, one could also move earth to a further-out orbit. Turns out that
it's not hard.

John


Oh? Really ?:)

...Jim Thompson

I confess, I want to hear more about this.

Graham
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I believe we are so inextricably gravity-interrelated with the other
planets that meddling would result in a disaster.

Not to say the Democrats won't try it some day, and we'll end up
falling into the sun :-(

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:54:05 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:55:49 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

No, one could also move earth to a further-out orbit. Turns out that
it's not hard.

John


Oh? Really ?:)

...Jim Thompson
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Yup. You just nudge the occasional asteroid into a hyperbolic flyby of
earth. That transfers angular momentum from the asteroid belt - they
have lots to spare - to earth. The numbers apparently work. The
'nudge' part takes a miniscule amount of energy and a good aim.

John
 
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:25:10 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:54:05 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:55:49 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

No, one could also move earth to a further-out orbit. Turns out that
it's not hard.

John


Oh? Really ?:)

...Jim Thompson


Yup. You just nudge the occasional asteroid into a hyperbolic flyby of
earth. That transfers angular momentum from the asteroid belt - they
have lots to spare - to earth. The numbers apparently work. The
'nudge' part takes a miniscule amount of energy and a good aim.

John
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And the unintended consequences?

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:54:05 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:55:49 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

No, one could also move earth to a further-out orbit. Turns out that
it's not hard.

John


Oh? Really ?:)

...Jim Thompson

Yup. You just nudge the occasional asteroid into a hyperbolic flyby of
earth. That transfers angular momentum from the asteroid belt - they
have lots to spare - to earth. The numbers apparently work. The
'nudge' part takes a miniscule amount of energy and a good aim.

John
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I can't remotely imagine that an asteroid would have enough energy to
impart to make the earth's orbit significantly different.

I expect some basic physics should resolve the issue.

Graham
 
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:37:34 +0100, in sci.electronics.design Pooh
Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:54:05 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:55:49 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

No, one could also move earth to a further-out orbit. Turns out that
it's not hard.

John


Oh? Really ?:)

...Jim Thompson

Yup. You just nudge the occasional asteroid into a hyperbolic flyby of
earth. That transfers angular momentum from the asteroid belt - they
have lots to spare - to earth. The numbers apparently work. The
'nudge' part takes a miniscule amount of energy and a good aim.

John

I can't remotely imagine that an asteroid would have enough energy to
impart to make the earth's orbit significantly different.

I expect some basic physics should resolve the issue.

Graham

If you could move the earth, don't do it faster than 1G, cos it will
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leave all the water behind.


martin
 
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:37:34 +0100, Pooh Bear
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:54:05 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:55:49 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

No, one could also move earth to a further-out orbit. Turns out that
it's not hard.

John


Oh? Really ?:)

...Jim Thompson

Yup. You just nudge the occasional asteroid into a hyperbolic flyby of
earth. That transfers angular momentum from the asteroid belt - they
have lots to spare - to earth. The numbers apparently work. The
'nudge' part takes a miniscule amount of energy and a good aim.

John

I can't remotely imagine that an asteroid would have enough energy to
impart to make the earth's orbit significantly different.

I expect some basic physics should resolve the issue.

Graham
Click to expand...
It would take thousands of asteroid passes spaced over millions of
years, just enough to keep ahead of the sun's expansion. No rush.

John
 
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